Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with a diverse panel that includes former NYPD Sergeant Joseph Giacalone, forensic psychologist Dr. Joni Johnston, Mike Morford of the Criminology Podcast, polygraph expert Lisa Ribacoff, and Kerri Rawson, the daughter of the infamous BTK killer. They explore leads of the LISK case, discuss the importance of identifying victims, and theorize about the killer's methods. The conversation also touches on mental health within the police force and the ripple effects of trauma on victims, their families, and entire communities. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl shares a high school story that sets the tone for the importance of teamwork in solving complex problems [1:10] Listen to the previous episodes on the LISK case: LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) Panel: A Zone 7 Discussion; LISK (Long Island Serial Killer): Part 2 with Kerri Rawson [1:15] Sheryl reintroduces guest, Sergeant Joseph Giacalone to the listeners [1:40] Cold Case Handbook; Criminal Investigation Function [1:45] Question to Joseph: What do you think is next for this investigation, the next steps? [2:26] Question to Joseph: Do you see this task force being even larger than we think that it is? [2:31] Joseph talks about the growth of the task force. He emphasizes the crucial role of expanding the investigation team [3:45] Sherly reintroduces guest, Lisa Robicoff to the listeners [3:48] Question to Lisa: With a case of this magnitude, how do you think private investigators could possibly help this task force? I'm thinking specifically interviews with sex workers, possibly internet searches, and government records. What do you think? [4:00] Lisa Ribacoff is brought in to discuss private investigators' roles. Her insights highlight the value of collaboration in the task force [6:10] Sheryl reintroduces Mike Morford of the Criminology Podcast [7:32] Sheryl reintroduces Dr. Joni Jonston back to the listeners [8:17] Dr. Joni Johnston discusses the age of the Long Island serial killer. Her thoughts explore the psychological implications of age in serial killing [10:00] Sheryl reintroduces Kerri Rawson back to the listeners [10:14] Question to Kerri: How do we continue to advocate for victims and keep that mindset of being respectful toward victims, families, and suspect families? [13:33] Sheryl and Joseph discuss the use of humor in dealing with police mental health [17:53] Question to Lisa: When you start identifying some of these victims from the Long Island serial killer, that's going to give us the date that they actually disappeared. How important is that intel? [20:48] Question to Dr. Joni: I firmly believe he's going to have journals and calendars and maps and I think he's been very detailed in what he's done. What do you think? [22:30] Joseph elaborates on factors that influence serial killers. Insight into the identification of a killer's first victim and the mistakes they make [25:42] Sheryl and Mike discuss the possibility of the killer owning secluded land [27:33] Lisa highlights unusual property in South Carolina. A potentially significant clue [30:36] Kerri shares personal experiences as the daughter of the BTK killer [34:54] Mike talks about crime scene investigations' impact on criminals' families. An exploration of the emotional toll and aftermath [39:11] “Nothing about murder is clean. Everything is messy. Everything is horrible. Everything is gross.” [41:24] Final thoughts from the panel [45:55] “We will support this task force with every tool it needs to hopefully bring this investigation and these murders to a successful conclusion.” -M.J.D Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice commu

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum and forensic psychologist Dr. Joni Johnston dive deep into the perplexing case of Kouri Richins, a woman accused of poisoning her husband. The twist? Corey penned a children's book post the alleged crime. Through meticulous analysis of the book's content, the duo uncovers potential hidden confessions and the psychological implications behind them. Dr. Johnston provides insights into the mind of a potential criminal, while Sheryl's investigative expertise shines through. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl recounts a childhood memory, introducing the concept that authors might inadvertently reveal their secrets through writing [2:15] Timeline of Kouri Richins case [6:01] Children’s Book: Are You With Me? [6:05] Sheryl introduces guest Dr. Joni Johnston, a forensic psychologist, to the listeners [6:28] Serial Killers 101 Questions True Crime Fans Ask [12:16] Sheryl points out an unsettling line from the book, suggesting it might be a veiled confession [15:58] Dr. Johnston posits that the book seems more autobiographical than intended for children [16:25] Differences between adult and child symptoms of nervousness, panic attacks [20:15] A particular phrase in the book is criticized for its ominous undertones [25:29] The duo discuss the psychological intricacies of violent behavior and potential underlying mental disorders [29:02] Question: Do you think there is a common thread sometimes with people that are accused or convicted of something and then go and write a book? [30:39] Traits common among murderers are explored, painting a clearer picture of Corey's potential mindset. [33:30] The absence of Kouri from her own book is analyzed, suggesting a possible attempt to distance herself from her actions [35:00] Sheryl dissects the title of the book and it’s possible meaning [38:06] ​​”You never speak to anybody and get the truth. Parts of it, pieces of it, but it's always just a little out of focus.” - J.K Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. - --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Detective Joseph Giacalone, a 20-year NYPD veteran. Together, they discuss the nuances of investigations, highlighting the transformation of crime scene practices and the importance of evidence preservation. Detective Joseph sheds light on his experiences, emphasizing the role of communication and the emotional toll of unsolved cases, especially those involving children. Together, they champion the potential of modern tools like drones and videotaping, while navigating the challenging terrains of the Bronx and Brooklyn. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl reminisces about her encounter with retired FBI agent James O. Ponder and his high-profile cases [1:44] Sheryl introduces Detective Joseph Giacalone to the listeners [3:12] Det. Joseph underscores the significance of communication skills in investigations, reflecting on his tenure [4:06] Question: Can you tell us about Charles Taylor and Stephen Mason? [4:11] Det. Joseph revisits the haunting Charles Taylor and Stephen Mason case, drawing parallels with past cases [7:54] The hurdles of revisiting decades-old cases are discussed, emphasizing the possible loss of critical evidence [12:16] Question: Going back to Charles and Steven. They had a two-year-old younger brother and lived with their mama on Valentine Avenue. Was there anything that stuck out to you from the beginning about the address? [15:01] Question: Do you think that there's any chance there could be DNA on their clothing? [19:01] Det. Joseph shares his commitment to transparency and education shines through as he discusses sharing expertise [20:38] Question: I know you worked Queens and I know you worked The Bronx. When you work a case, no matter what it is, homicide or missing person, did you work differently in those different neighborhoods? [20:55] The thin spread of NYPD's Bronx Cold Case Squad is discussed, highlighting the necessity of autonomous detectives [23:00] The challenges of working in various neighborhoods are explored, focusing on police-community dynamics [25:51] Question: Going back to these two little boys, Charlie and Steven, what is it about their case that still pulls you, still draws you? [28:52] “Hope is not a plan, but sometimes when you're dealing with cold cases, it's all you have. And you just have to just keep on hammering away, and like everything else, the harder you work, the luckier you get. Hope is not a plan, but sometimes it's all you get.” -Detective Joseph Giacalone [29:18] Sheryl recalls her childhood dream of marrying an Italian detective [32:38] “It's important for these unspeakable things to be spoken up because they actually happened in this world.” -J.W Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The primary suspect in the LISK (Long Island Serial Killer) was arrested on July 13, 2023, and charged with three counts of murder in connection with the 13-year-old Gilgo Beach slayings. He is suspected in a fourth case. On this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum, a Crime Scene Investigator, is joined by Kerri Rawson, the daughter of the infamous BTK killer as they provide updates regarding the Long Island serial killer case. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl brings back guest, Kerri Rawson to provide updates about the LISK case [1:29] Question: Kerri can you tell me, not the last few days. But even the last 45 minutes, what has all gone through your mind with the information that's coming out now about the excavation on Long Island? [4:41] Kerri provides details around the underground vault located under the suspects home [9:06] Who was H.H Holmes? [10:55] Question: I think we're gonna see maps and drawings and journals and codes with Rex. Do you agree? [11:00] Kerri speculates what might come out in the media regarding the vault found [15:00] Question: Have you heard the lady that has come out and said that the suspect just creeped her out and she wouldn't get in the car? [17:27] Kerri expresses a need for the community to be patient with law enforcement throughout the investigation to ensure accuracy in statements made Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this engrossing episode of the "Zone 7" podcast, host Sheryl McCollum delves deep into the Long Island serial killer case. With a diverse panel that includes former NYPD Sergeant Joseph Giacalone, forensic psychologist Dr. Joni Johnston, and polygraph expert Lisa Ribacoff, Mike Morford host of the Criminology Podcast, listeners get a comprehensive understanding of the investigation, its psychological intricacies, the real-life impacts of crime, and the role podcast and other media play in solving these cases. Special guest Kerri Rawson, the daughter of the infamous BTK killer, offers a unique perspective on the human aftermath of crime. The discussion transcends the specifics of the case, touching on the roles of podcasters in true crime and urging respect and patience when discussing ongoing investigations. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl shares a story from a school teacher following the introduction of the team of experts in this episode [1:37] Sheryl gives an overview of the Long Island serial killer case, revealing the chilling details and the killer's suspected patterns [5:12] Question: Can you talk a little bit about what law enforcement is doing after they have a person in custody? [6:16] Question: What do you think right now is the most intriguing piece of evidence to you? [7:15] The role of Medical Legal Investigators (MLIs) in cold case digs is highlighted, with Giacalone noting how serial killers often keep "trophies" [8:51] Question: How do you function as a professional, raise children, and maintain a marriage? And at the same time, be this predatory killer? [8:55] Joni E. Johnston introduces the idea that some individuals can effectively compartmentalize their lives, making their criminal activities harder to detect [12:33] Question: If he was willing to talk, what questions would you have for him, and in what order? [13:10] The intriguing world of polygraph tests is unveiled as Lisa Ribacoff shares her approach to interviewing suspects [16:47] Kerri Rawson’s profound insights on the complexities of being related to a notorious criminal. Her experience brings a deeply personal touch to the narrative [18:08] Mike Morford highlights the influential role of podcasters in shining a light on cold cases and aiding investigations [22:15] Question: When you're working a task force like this how difficult is it to get everybody to stay on the same page and move as one? [23:06] Giacalone paints a picture of the investigation's intricacies, from triumphs to stumbling blocks [24:54] Delving into the psychological, Sheryl and Joni discuss the delicate task of profiling a criminal while empathizing with the perpetrator's family [26:36] Question: Lisa? You’re there on Long Island. What is the pulse like of that community? [29:49] Question: Tell me, how do you balance it so that you are respectful to law enforcement, the pending case, both sides, both families? [32:00] Rawson candidly discusses her advocacy work and the emotional journey of supporting other families impacted by crime [38:12] Question: Lisa, with your expertise in statement analysis and in polygraph, how do you weed out the true reports and the false reports? [45:40] An exploration of a chilling concept: the idea of 'metaphysical trophies' and the psychological warfare some criminals deploy [49:38] Rawson offers a rare glimpse into her life, highlighting the many faces of a serial killer, including that of a father [52:47] Final thoughts from the panel of experts [58:39] “Crime must be evaluated in its totality. There is no substitute for experience. And if you want to understand the criminal mind, you must go directly to the source and learn to decipher what he tells you. And above all, why plus how equals who” -J.D, Mindhunter Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research

On April 18, 2016, the body of fitness instructor Missy Beavers is found at Creekside Church of Christ in Midlothian, Texas. Bevers' murder gained significant media attention after Midlothian police released surveillance footage from inside the church. Captured around the time period shortly before Bevers' murder, the surveillance footage shows an unknown person, dressed in what appears to be police tactical gear, walking around the church's hallways. Police believe the person in the video is Bevers' murderer. In this episode of "Zone 7," Crime Scene Investigator Sheryl McCollum talks with guests Crystal and Renae from True Crime Broads. They explore the peculiarities of Missy Beavers's unsolved crime, the influence of social media on investigations, and the power of civilian involvement in solving cases. With backgrounds as diverse as motherhood and a passion for true crime, Crystal and Renae bring unique perspectives to the discussion. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl shares an inspiring story of her friend Betsy, who sets up a house for domestic violence victims in her county, underlining the significance of individual actions [2:13] Sheryl introduced the unsolved murder case of Missy Beavers in a small-town church called Creekside Church of Christ on April 18, 2016 [3:42] Sheryl discusses the chilling surveillance footage from the church, heightening the mystery of the case [5:33] Crystal and Renae from True Crime Broads, are introduced to the listeners [7:22] The trio delve deeper into the peculiarities of the Missy Beavers case, broadening the scope of the conversation [10:05] A description of the eerie behavior of the perpetrator as seen on the church's surveillance footage, intensifies the intrigue [12:05] Question: What do you think about the church? Why do you think it was chosen as the location of the murder? [13:04] “I guess if some crazy person wanted to get her alone, [the church] would be a place to do it.” [15:05] Question: Did you both have any internal feelings about the church surveillance video? [18:38] Crystal and Renae reveal their initiative to keep the case alive through a billboard, demonstrating the power of public engagement [20:07] Question: Before the podcast was created, were either of you in law enforcement or did you have any previous training in investigations? [20:30] Crystal and Renae open up about their backgrounds, debunking the myth that one needs formal training to contribute to crime solving [24:00] Sheryl emphasizes the pivotal role of media in reaching a vast audience, aiding in solving crimes [26:14] The common reasons for murder and how they may relate to the Beavers case [28:17] The conversation hones in on the unusual sequence of events on the day of the murder, involving the killer's swift actions post the crime [31:57] To follow the Missy Beavers Case on True Crime Broads click HERE, or check out their IG page @truecrimebroads, and Facebook @truecrimebroads [32:16] If anyone who's local might have any information, please call Midlothian Police or call Crime Stoppers. The Midlothian number is 972 775 3333. There is an independent reward of 150, 000. If you call Crime Stoppers and remain anonymous, the reward is up to 1,000. That number is 972 937 7297. [34:47] “There is no branch of detective science, which is so important and so neglected as the art of tracing footsteps.” -A.D Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- About the ‘Zone 7’ Host Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.” McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You ca

In this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum dives deep into the instrumental role civilians play in solving crimes. She opens by examining the famous case of the Zodiac Cipher and segues into the tragic cold case of Ernestine Andridge. Sheryl introduces the powerful community of WebSleuths, headed by Tricia Griffith, which has changed the face of online crime investigation. Griffith shares how WebSleuths has evolved from a small chaotic forum to a well-structured community of over 200,000 members, aiding in investigations of high-profile cases like those of Abraham Shakespeare and Casey Anthony. The duo then delve into the pros and cons of social media in crime-solving and how online communities are reshaping the landscape of crime investigation. Show Notes: [00:00:00] Sheryl McCollum introduces the role of civilians in crime-solving, using the example of the Zodiac Cipher. [00:01:22] Sheryl shares her realization of civilians' importance in crime-solving. [00:03:11] Sheryl reveals the cold case of Ernestine Andridge, noting the challenges faced in its resolution. [00:05:17] The role of civilian involvement in solving cold cases is emphasized, introducing Web Sleuths. [00:07:50] Tricia Griffith, founder of Web Sleuths, is introduced to the episode. [00:08:14] Tricia recounts the growth and transformation of Web Sleuths. [00:09:21] Griffith highlights the importance of each Web Sleuths community member in case-solving. [00:10:05] Sheryl likens the Web Sleuths community to a prayer group. [00:11:06] Griffith explains the indirect, but crucial, role of Web Sleuths in solving cases. [00:12:02] Griffith discusses Web Sleuths' contribution to the murder case of lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare. [00:14:25] The significant role of Web Sleuths in the Casey Anthony case is discussed. [00:16:00] Tricia shares a heart-touching conversation about online defamation. [00:17:30] An instance where a Web Sleuths member uncovers crucial missed information is explored. [00:18:30] Tricia discusses Web Sleuths' relationship with law enforcement. [00:20:00] Griffith recounts the Boston Bomber incident and the importance of not spreading unverified information. [00:21:00] Sheryl encourages listeners to consider joining Web Sleuths. [00:23:00] Tricia expresses hope in using DNA evidence from Authrin Labs for a challenging case. [00:24:10] Tricia invites listeners to join the army of online armchair detectives on WebSleuths. [00:26:00] Sheryl discusses the power and potential pitfalls of social media in crime-solving. [00:28:30] Griffith shares how WebSleuths helped solve a 23-year-old case. [00:30:00] Sheryl acknowledges the efforts of Tricia and her army of WebSleuths. [00:31:30] Sheryl praises Tricia Griffith's dedication to solving cold cases, both high-profile and low-profile. Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Moore's Ford lynchings, or the 1946 Georgia lynching, refer to the brutal murders of four young African Americans by a mob of white men on July 25, 1946. The incident occurred near Moore's Ford Bridge in Walton and Oconee counties, Georgia. The victims were two married couples: George W. and Mae Murray Dorsey, and Roger and Dorothy Malcolm. The case attracted national attention, prompting large protests in Washington, D.C., and New York City. President Harry Truman created the President's Committee on Civil Rights and introduced anti-lynching legislation in Congress, but it was blocked by the Southern Democratic bloc. The FBI investigated the case in 1946 but could not find sufficient evidence to charge anyone. The cold case was reopened in the 1990s, but the state of Georgia and the FBI closed their cases in December 2017 without any prosecution. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum narrates the story of the meeting with ex-KKK imperial wizard, Johnny Lee Clary. Through a surprising connection with Reverend Watts, a local NAACP leader, Clary experiences a profound transformation, revealing the strength of compassion and resilience in the face of prejudice. Also shared is the story of a student, Pho, grappling with the reality of law enforcement. Highlighting real-life instances of personal change and the power of love Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. [0:16] Recap of the investigation into the Morse Ford Bridge cold case involving a civil rights crime [1:10] In a bold move, Sheryl arranges a meeting with ex-KKK imperial wizard, Johnny Lee Clary, to gather information about the cold case [2:00] Sheryl introduces Pho, her student who will be joining in a meeting with Johnny Lee Clary [4:10] Unpacking the realities of law enforcement work, where allegiance is to justice rather than personal preferences [7:21] At age 14, Johnny Lee Clary joined the clan [7:55] Introduction to Reverend Wade Watts via Johnny's story [8:24] Sheryl narrates the surprising story of Johnny Lee’s interaction with Reverend Watts, a tale of confrontation met with unexpected kindness [11:24] The memorable first meeting of Johnny Lee and Reverend Watts in 1979 which played a vital role in Johnny’s transformation is recollected [12:40] A change of heart for Johnny [16:51] Drawing from personal experiences, Sheryl underscores the power of love and goodness in overcoming preconceived notions [18:00] An uplifting update about Pho’s journey from student to successful bail enforcement officer in Georgia [18:55] “You can't do enough to me to make me hate you. I'm gonna love you, and I will pray for you, whether you like it or not.” -Reverend Wade Watts Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 7, 2013, 17-year-old Molly Miller and 22-year-old Colt Haynes disappear in Love County after a car chase with police. The car was driven by a friend, James Con Nipp. Police lost the vehicle somewhere in the area of Long Hollow Rd. and Oswalt Rd in Love County, Oklahoma. Miller and Haynes disappear after the pursuit. Nipp was prosecuted for the car chase in 2014, but no one has been charged in the disappearances of Colt and Molly. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Paula Fielder, Molly’s cousin. Together, they explore the role of law enforcement and the Chickasaw Nation, emphasizing the need for increased attention to the case . A chilling find in a ravine and a call to check DNA evidence build suspense, leading to an anticipation-filled conclusion with Paula's announcement of a 10-year remembrance event at Love County Courthouse. If you have any information about this case call 800-522-8017 or submit a tip online at [email protected] There will be a candlelight vigil for Molly and Colt held at the Love County courthouse on July 8, 2023, from 6-9 pm. Anyone who is interested in celebrating the memory of Molly and Colt is welcome. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl begins the episode with an emotional story about her sister Sharon's disappearance during a family trip to Jekyll Island [3:18] Sherly recaps the missing case of Molly and Colt. If you haven’t listened to the previous episodes surrounding this case, check them out here - Zone 7 Legends : Lisa Ribacoff - Molly Miller and Colt Hayes, Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Maureen O’Connell, Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Rob and Cindy Dorfman [4:26] Guest Paula Miller Fielder, Molly's cousin, is introduced, recounting her decade-long search for Molly and Colt [5:09] Paula voices her gratitude for the ongoing interest and coverage of Molly's case [9:20] Paula details a moment of false hope from 2013, when a rock mistaken for a skull was discovered [12:18] Question: When you first were told Molly was missing, how were you told? And what was your first reaction to it? [13:17] Remenencing the distressing phone call she received from Molly's mother, pleading for her help [16:43] Question: When did you first start to realize, or did you know, that law enforcement would be a hurdle? [18:56] Sheryl expresses skepticism about the official story of the car being stolen and wrecked [20:29] Question: Was there ever a phone call where somebody spoke with Molly? [20:34] Molly's desperate calls for help, claiming they were lost [21:40] Question: How did they know where to tell people to come and get them? [27:12] Sheryl asserts the necessity for more official resources to be allocated to Molly and Colt's case [28:12] Bureau of Indian Affairs is now involved in the case, given Molly's Chickasaw heritage [30:29] Paula narrates the chilling discovery of a freezer and bones in a ravine [32:46] Question: Do you still have the bones that you found? [32:55] Sheryl suggests conducting DNA testing on the discovered bones [34:53] “Sometimes, when one person is missing, the whole world seems depopulated.” -A.D.L Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 7, 2013, 17-year-old Molly Miller and 22-year-old Colt Haynes disappear in Love County after a car chase with police. The car was driven by a friend, James Con Nipp. Police lost the vehicle somewhere in the area of Long Hollow Rd. and Oswalt Rd in Love County, Oklahoma. Miller and Haynes disappear after the pursuit. Nipp was prosecuted for the car chase in 2014, but no one has been charged in the disappearances of Colt and Molly. In this timely episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Lisa Ribacoff, a seasoned polygraph expert. Together, they explore the evolution of polygraph technology, its applications, and Ribacoff's unique experiences solving high-profile cases. If you have any information about this case call 800-522-8017 or submit a tip online at [email protected] Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. [1:54] Sheryl gives listeners a recap of the case of Molly Miller and Colt Haynes, who vanished after a high-speed police chase. If you missed the previous episode regarding this case visit this link Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Rob and Cindy, and Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Maureen O’Connell [3:09] Introduction to Lisa Ribacoff, a polygraph whiz, tracing her journey from a family business to multiple offices on the East Coast [7:30] Question: Regarding the audio and video that you received regarding Colt and Molly, can you tell us your first impressions, or takeaways from it? [8:20] Lisa elaborates on the first piece of evidence she examined - an intriguing audio recording [11:00] The duo stress the importance of emotional engagement and continuous training in their field [12:20] Question: Can you explain the strategy behind polygraph questioning? [16:00] Sheryl recounts her recent encounter with a polygraph test [17:37] The progression of polygraph technology, from analog to digital [20:00] “A 99 on a polygraph means that you didn't tell me a hundred percent of the truth” [21:31] Lisa shares her ability to detect deception, beyond the polygraph machine [23:30] How linguistic shifts can indicate deception [24:12] Question: How many polygraphs have you done? [29:55] Sheryl emphasizes the crucial role of expertise in preventing injustice [31:05] “We are both in our careers for the idea of closure” [31:52] Question: Will you address a little bit the polygraph as an investigative tool? [31:30] Lisa explains the primary objectives of polygraph tests [35:50] Question: With Colt and Molly, what do you think could be done now using your techniques? [38:51] “Listen, I don't know anything about polygraphs. And I don't know how accurate they are, but I know they'll scare the hell outta people.” -R.M.N Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 7th, 2013 17-year-old Molly Miller and 22-year-old Colt Haynes disappear in Love County after a car chase with police. The car was driven by a friend, James Con Nipp. Police lost the vehicle somewhere in the area of Long Hollow Rd. and Oswalt Rd in Love County, Oklahoma. Miller and Haynes disappear after the pursuit. Nipp was prosecuted for the car chase in 2014, but no one has been charged in the disappearances of Colt and Molly. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with retired FBI special agent Maureen O’Connell about the disappearance of Molly Miller and Colt Haynes. Together, they recount their journey investigating this case, sharing insights into their process of collecting potential evidence, unique challenges presented when investigating potential water-based crime scenes, and interpreting crime scene clues, and much more. If you have any information about this case call 800-522-8017 or submit a tip online at [email protected] Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl recalls her early experiences with her older siblings that piqued her interest in law enforcement [1:44] Sheryl gives listeners a recap of the case of Molly Miller and Colt Haynes, who vanished after a high-speed police chase. If you missed the previous episode regarding this case visit this link Chasing the Truth: The Molly and Colt Case | Rob and Cindy [2:45] Sheryl introduces retired FBI special agent Maureen O'Connell to the listeners [6:30] The duo shares their investigative journey in Oklahoma, traversing dense woods and waterways in search of clues [9:30] Maureen elaborates on the thought process and challenges of visualizing different crime scenarios to deduce the most probable outcome [10:20] Sheryl highlights Maureen's instinct-driven approach during investigations, constantly brainstorming new ideas [11:52] The investigators commend their team's dedication, especially Toby, who played a crucial role in their work [12:29] Question: Can you tell the listeners your approach when working on a crime scene? [15:30] The meticulous process of sifting through potential evidence [16:33] Maureen underlines the importance of documenting evidence locations, aiding in focusing their search [20:23] The investigators speculate that the victims could be nearby, suggesting a quick, simple body disposal [21:07] “The hallmark of any good investigator, as you well know, is to go exactly where the evidence leads you.” [25:45] Question: If you could go back in time, what would you do day one and minute one? [28:40] A visit to the scene allows Maureen and Sheryl to connect the dots in their investigation, with the fishing hole and pier providing key insights [29:50] A conversation with Toby, reveals crucial information about the suspects' illegal activities on his land [30:47] “Trust your gut.” -A.W Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 7th, 2013 17-year-old Molly Miller and 22-year-old Colt Haynes disappear in Love County after a car chase with police. The car was driven by a friend, James Con Nipp. Police lost the vehicle somewhere in the area of Long Hollow Rd. and Oswalt Rd in Love County, Oklahoma. Miller and Haynes disappear after the pursuit. Nipp was prosecuted for the car chase in 2014, but no one has been charged in the disappearances of Colt and Molly. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with investigative duo Rob and Cindy Dorfman about the mysterious disappearance of Molly Miller and Colt Haynes, a cold case that has baffled investigators since 2013. Together, they scrutinize a disjointed narrative filled with police corruption, coverups, distressing 911 calls, and an unlikely crime scene. If you have any information about this case call 800-522-8017 or submit a tip online at [email protected] Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl remembers Doug Henning's inspirational escapology and draws parallels to her work in solving cold cases [1:49] Sheryl gives details about the perplexing case of Molly Miller and Colt Haynes, where an unconventional crime scene presents a tough investigative challenge [3:07] Sheryl welcomes investigative duo Rob and Cindy Dorfman, who invited Sheryl to Oklahoma for this case to the listeners [6:34] Rob and Cindy reveal their commitment to uncovering the truth behind Molly and Colt's disappearance and their deep respect for Paula Fielder, Molly's cousin [11:30] The episode takes a darker turn as Sheryl introduces possible corruption within local law enforcement connected to the case [12:58] Sheryl raises questions about Khan's non-interrogation immediately after the chase, highlighting gaps in the investigation [16:21] 911 call from Molly's phone during the chase – was it intentional or an accident? [20:35] A heart-wrenching moment when it's revealed that Molly and Colt called friends for help, lost in the woods after the chase [22:35] Question: Can you tell us about the accidental 911 call in 2014? [30:04] Sheryl underlines the crucial role of resource anticipation in an investigation, imparting a lesson to aspiring investigators [0:00] “Sometimes life has a way of nudging you in a direction you need. To be going. Don't fight it. It'll make sense on the other side.” -S.H Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Moore's Ford lynchings, or the 1946 Georgia lynching, refer to the brutal murders of four young African Americans by a mob of white men on July 25, 1946. The incident occurred near Moore's Ford Bridge in Walton and Oconee counties, Georgia. The victims were two married couples: George W. and Mae Murray Dorsey, and Roger and Dorothy Malcolm. The case attracted national attention, prompting large protests in Washington, D.C., and New York City. President Harry Truman created the President's Committee on Civil Rights and introduced anti-lynching legislation in Congress, but it was blocked by the Southern Democratic bloc. The FBI investigated the case in 1946 but could not find sufficient evidence to charge anyone. The cold case was reopened in the 1990s, but the state of Georgia and the FBI closed their cases in December 2017 without any prosecution. This episode features Sheryl McCollum, a cold case investigator, and Laura Wexler, author of "Fire in a Canebrake," discussing the Moores Ford Lynching in Georgia. Together, they explore the legacy of racial violence, the power of storytelling, and the challenges of investigating historical cases. Laura recounts her journey of unearthing the dark corners of America's past, hoping to shine a light on forgotten stories and victims. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl shares a life-changing interaction with her first-grade teacher, Ms. Williams [1:00] Ms. Williams' impact on Sheryl's early education, fostering respect and kindness [2:30] Sherly welcomes guest, Laura Wexler, author of Fire in a Canebrake: The Last Mass Lynching in America to the listeners [5:00] Laura shares a bit of her background to the listeners [5:55] Discovery of the Moores Ford Lynching and the formation of the Moores Ford Memorial Committee. [7:37] The power of storytelling and the importance of balanced narratives [8:26] Question: How did you come up with the title: Fire in the Canebrake? [8:45] The story behind the title Fire in a Canebrake [11:37] Question: What were your thoughts after talking with the two living suspects? [13:01] The challenges in cracking the case due to loyalty among suspects [16:10] Discussion on the fear instilled by the FBI investigation [19:30] Question: What do you think some of the most compelling evidence is in this case? [25:58] Unpacking a haunting photo connected to the case [27:33] “If not for your book, We would not have the documentation that we do on this case, and I think it's an important case. I think it's one of those, not just for historical purposes, but again for people to understand the times. 1946 is not that long ago.” [27:50] Laura's initial hope to solve the case and her disappointment [29:55] Sheryl's students learn valuable life lessons from the case [32:18] “I do what I wanna do and when I wanna do it every day” -Ms. Williams's advice on staying young and vibrant Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Late in the evening on Friday, October 30, 1987, three individuals are murdered by at least one gunshot to the head in a house located at 2188 Consolidated Road, in Eaton, Ohio. The names of the murdered individuals are David Smelser, Melinda Newcomb, and Donnie Marker. The bodies were not found until the following Monday, 3 days later, at approximately 5:30 p.m. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with guest Greg Noble, a seasoned attorney, and former prosecutor, as they dive into the cold case of the 1987 Preble County triple homicide. As they navigate through the rural landscapes of Ohio and the mysterious Poos family cabin, they shed light on the victims' backgrounds, the lack of motive, and the alarming blood evidence. Sheryl and Greg's exploration of this cold case is not only a window into the past but also an urgent call for community involvement and the pursuit of justice. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl shares a personal story illustrating the importance of not assuming intentions [3:27] Details about the cabin's location, implying the killer's familiarity with the victims [5:00] Sheryl introduces Greg Noble to the listeners. Greg is an attorney, a former prosecutor, and an analyst with the United States Secret Service. [6:01] Question: When you first got involved with this triple homicide case, what were your initial feelings? [8:30] Greg Noble shares the history of the Poos family and the cabin. [10:28] Discussing the victims, David, Donnie, and Melinda, and their backgrounds. [13:40] Speculation about the lack of motive for the murders. [17:10] Details about the blood evidence found at the crime scene. [19:11] Observation of the radio and outside lights being on at the time of the murders. [20:44] Question: Now, all of them being shot behind the left ear, what does that say to you? [25:12] Sheriff Simpson receives a call about the 1987 triple homicide [26:24] The caller's specific details about the murder conspiracy. [27:29] Question: Did the caller give any information that he could not have just gotten from the newspaper? Was there anything that made law enforcement think he is credible? [28:36] Question: Is there anything you need from our community at large to help get this case solved? [30:52] The potential of raising funds and attention to solve the cold case. [33:51] “Keep motivated. Even when you run out of leads, there's always another one around the corner. Just turn that way.” -V.V [33:55] Anyone with information about the Oct. 30, 1987 slayings of David Smelser, Donald Marker and Melinda Newcomb should call the Preble County Sheriff’s Office at 937-456-6262. Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Natalee Ann Holloway disappears on May 30, 2005, while she was in Aruba on a senior class trip. Holloway traveled with Mountain Brook, Alabama High School seniors, and chaperones to Aruba on May 26, 2005. Reportedly, on the evening of May 29, 2005, Holloway and a large group of students went to Carlos 'N Charlie's Nightclub in Oranjestad, Aruba. Holloway was last seen around 1:30 a.m. leaving the area in a silver Honda with three young males, Joran van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe, and Satish Kalpoe. Holloway did not return to her hotel room. On the morning of May 30, 2005, when the Mountain Brook group was scheduled to meet in the lobby of the hotel in preparation for their departure from Aruba, Holloway never joined them. The Mountain Brook group returned to the United States, however, Holloway's whereabouts remain unknown. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with the esteemed prosecutor and TV personality, Nancy Grace. They delve into the complex world of true crime, focusing on the unsolved case of Natalee Holloway. As both women share personal anecdotes and experiences, they emphasize the power of resilience, care, and justice. This episode offers a poignant exploration of the trials and tribulations faced in the pursuit of justice, making it an absolute must-listen for true crime enthusiasts. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. For those of you just joining and are new to Zone 7, it’s not a place, but a way of life. [0:40] Sheryl shares why she felt compelled to start Zone 7. [1:35] Sharing fond memories of watching Miss America pageants [4:00] Background details of Natalee Holloway’s disappearance at age 18 in Aruba [7:06] “This is a classic example of a case that is not necessarily unsolved, but unproven.” [7:39] Sherly introduces esteemed prosecutor and TV personality, Nancy Grace to the listeners. [9:56] Sheryl provides an update on her sister's resilience despite health challenges [11:54] The Eleventh Victim [16:38] Nancy describes an emotional moment in Aruba during the Holloway investigation [19:20] Encounter with Aruban police and Nancy's fearless confrontation [23:10] Nancy defends her statement on the Holloway case [25:03] Speculations on what happened to Natalee Holloway [26:10] Updates on suspect, Joran van der Sloot getting extradided to the US [31:39] “I simply wanted to tell you That there are some men in this world who are born to do our unpleasant jobs for us and your father's one of them.” - Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird [32:31] Call to action for Natalee’s unsolved case Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Moore's Ford lynchings, or the 1946 Georgia lynching, refer to the brutal murders of four young African Americans by a mob of white men on July 25, 1946. The incident took place near Moore's Ford Bridge in Walton and Oconee counties, Georgia. The victims were two married couples: George W. and Mae Murray Dorsey, and Roger and Dorothy Malcolm. The case attracted national attention, prompting large protests in Washington, D.C., and New York City. President Harry Truman created the President's Committee on Civil Rights and introduced anti-lynching legislation in Congress, but it was blocked by the Southern Democratic bloc. The FBI investigated the case in 1946 but could not find sufficient evidence to charge anyone. The cold case was reopened in the 1990s, but the state of Georgia and the FBI closed their cases in December 2017 without any prosecution. In this episode of "Zone 7," Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with clinical therapist Janice Duncan as they dive deep into the chilling Moore's Ford Lynching case. Together they explore the psychological impact of lynching on the Black community. They also discuss their emotional experiences at the crime scene, including a tense encounter with a truck, and the significance of the evidence found. The duo also reveals their interactions with a former imperial wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, shedding light on the complex historical context of the case. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl recounts her Bonnie and Clyde death car experience and its impact on her investigative career. [1:20] Sheryl highlights similarities between the Bonnie and Clyde case and the Moore's Ford Lynching [7:06] Sherly welcomes guest Janice Duncan to the listeners [8:05] Sheryl and Janice delve into the details of the Moore's Ford Bridge lynching [9:56] Janice reflects on the emotional experience of visiting the lynching crime scene [14:10] They discuss meeting with the former imperial wizard of the Ku Klux Klan [15:55] Question: What was the turning point for you other than meeting with Johnny Lee Cleary? [19:39] Janice shares the moving story of former Klan member Johnny Lee Cleary. [22:02] The conversation shifts to understanding Cleary's violent childhood and coping mechanisms [26:24] Cleary's actions, such as burning a black church to stop voter registration, are discussed [27:10] Reverend Watts' belief in Cleary's potential for change is highlighted [29:47] Janice shares how humor has helped her cope with the challenges of her career [30:00] A tense encounter with a truck during the investigation is recounted [32:20] Sheryl and Janice discuss the significance of evidence found in the Moore's Ford Bridge case [33:02] The emotional impact of finding evidence at the crime scene is reflected upon [37:02] How hands-on experience changed the students who helped in the investigation at the crime scene [39:15] “This crime got the attention of a college student, you know, a Morehouse man, a 17-year-old who took the time to write a letter to the Atlanta Constitution. Because he was mad about the immortality of this racism. And the letter clearly showed that he had a passion for social justice. The letter was signed very simply, ML King Jr. So you college students here, with Cheryl and Janice, can do something. You have done something.” -TB Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.” McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https:

The Moore's Ford lynchings, or the 1946 Georgia lynching, refer to the brutal murders of four young African Americans by a mob of white men on July 25, 1946. The incident took place near Moore's Ford Bridge in Walton and Oconee counties, Georgia. The victims were two married couples: George W. and Mae Murray Dorsey, and Roger and Dorothy Malcolm. The case attracted national attention, prompting large protests in Washington, D.C., and New York City. President Harry Truman created the President's Committee on Civil Rights and introduced anti-lynching legislation in Congress, but it was blocked by the Southern Democratic bloc. The FBI investigated the case in 1946 but could not find sufficient evidence to charge anyone. The cold case was reopened in the 1990s, but the state of Georgia and the FBI closed their cases in December 2017 without any prosecution. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator Sheryl McCollum is joined by Judge Holly Hughes and Assistant District Attorney Claire Farley, two experienced legal professionals and advocates for justice. Together, they discuss a historical cold case involving sharecropping, economic servitude, and a flawed investigation. The team shares their experiences uncovering crime scene artifacts that remained hidden for decades and the challenges they faced when working with the FBI. The conversation also covers the importance of unsealing grand jury records to gain invaluable insights and the search for truth and justice in this long-forgotten case. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl details the last mass lynching in the United States. The Moore’s Ford Bridge lynchings, July 25th,1946 [7:17] Sheryl introduces her guests, Judge Holly Hughes and Assistant District Attorney Claire Farley, who have extensive legal experience and are advocates for justice [10:21] Holly explains the concept of sharecropping, which was a system that kept people in a cycle of economic servitude similar to slavery [15:30] The discussion begins with the recovery of objects from the crime scene, highlighting the magnitude of the event [16:00] Sheryl shares a story about growing up hunting arrowheads with her Granfather. [17:24] Cold Case Investigative Research Institute [19:30] The team describes the process of cleaning up the site and setting up grids for a more detailed examination [20:38] The discovery of over a hundred bullets, fragments, casings, and artifacts, many dating back to pre-1950, is revealed [24:02] It is noted that over 50 years later, the evidence was still waiting to be discovered [29:42] Question: Claire, you made a phone call because as an active DA, you said, let me call and see if they will come out and collect this evidence. Who did you call and what was their response? [30:07] Claire shares her experience of calling the FBI to collect the evidence they found but encounters a lack of enthusiasm and support from the agent she spoke with [33:06] Question: Claire, can you walk us through what happened with the 11th Circuit? [33:17] Fire in a Canebrake: The Last Mass Lynching in America [33:44] Claire explains her desire for justice and truth in the case, emphasizing the importance of unsealing records to get closer to the truth and encouraging family members to come forward and tell their stories [37:12] Question: Holly, how important would it be for us to be able to read actual testimony? [37:14] Holly emphasizes the invaluable nature of being able to read actual testimony, asserting that it's "priceless" to know who the witnesses were and to explore the original investigation [38:40] Sheryl raises questions about Lloyd Harrison's involvement in the case and how he seemed to be delaying actions, fueling suspicions [44:49] Discussion about the suspicious and fast arrival of the newspaper during the investigation, raising questions about how they knew about the events [47:47] “I have a lot of emotion left from the days of the murders. My whole family still carries scars.” -JH Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Storie

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by the original lead detective on Melissa’s case, Detective Calhoun as they discuss their final thoughts on Melissa’s case. Walt, Sheryl’s husband, reads aloud Carl's final thoughts and reactions to the series on Zone 7. Anyone with information about Melissa’s case is urged to call Crime Stoppers Atlanta at 404-577-8477. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. [2:26] “Family can be who you are born into, but it’s also who you choose.” [2:51] If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Victims of Carl Patton - Liddie Evans Children Speak | Part 5, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Joseph Scott Morgan’s Insight on Melissa’s case | Part 6, and Melissa Wolfenbarger: Continued - Joseph Scott Morgan’s Insight on Melissa’s Case | Part 7, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Dr. Angela Arnold Weighs In | Part 8 [3:42] Sheryl introduces Detective AB Calhoun to the listeners [5:20] Question: What are your first gut feelings and reactions about Melissa’s case? [9:43] Question: When you learned that the victim's father is a convicted murderer, did you have any pause there? [15:05] Sheryl’s husband, Walt will read Carl’s final letter and thoughts on this series of Melissa Wolfenbarger [17:45] “Melissa was a beautiful, smart, loving young lady that had a bright future in front of her two beautiful children that she loved with all of her heart and soul.” [20:10] Final thoughts from court documents with Gladys Jackson [25:42] Out of the Shadows [25:47] “You never know the struggle someone is going through. Always be kind.” -S.W [25:51] Anyone with information about Melissa’s case is urged to call Crime Stoppers Atlanta at 404-577-8477. Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- About the ‘Zone 7’ Host Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.” McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by Psychiatrist, Dr. Angela Arnold who has worked on Melissa’s unsolved case. Dr. Arnold and Sheryl discuss their perspectives on trauma bonds, domestic violence and what realtionship imbalances look like in families. They also discuss how childhood trauma can ultimately lead you to exactly what you were trying to get away from. In this case, they discuss how Melissa’s childhood and experience shaped how she ended up with a guy like Christopher. Dr. Arnold also gives her advice on how to detect a narcissist and signs of domestic violence, and more. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl sets the scene of exactly why Dr. Angela Arnold is part of her zone 7 [2:25] If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Victims of Carl Patton - Liddie Evans Children Speak | Part 5, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Joseph Scott Morgan’s Insight on Melissa’s case | Part 6, and Melissa Wolfenbarger: Continued - Joseph Scott Morgan’s Insight on Melissa’s Case | Part 7 [2:30] Dr. Angela Arnold has expertise in a lot of different areas such as anxiety and depression, attention deficit disorder, work-life balance, cold cases, and criminal behavior issues leading to crime suspect and victim-centered criminological review [4:20] “Families develop their own identities as a whole.” [8:50] What it means to love bomb someone [10:24] Signs of devaluing a person [15:43] The enormous bond between Norma and Carl [20:00] Sheryl weighs in on her perspective of Chris and Carl's affiliation [27:58] Dr. Angela weighs in on Melissa’s missing torso [30:50] Motives as to why a husband would kill his wife [32:33] Red flags in domestic violence [37:54] “Melissa had this funny back and forth where she loved Chris and she was scared of him, and he would, he would make her fearful, but then the next day he would do something that made her feel that love again. And it's a bond. It's, it's, that's why it's called a trauma bond.” [38:36] Question: Dr. Arnold, do you have any advice that you wanna give right now to everybody listening? [39:55] “People change based on what they feel more than what they know.” Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator Sheryl McCollum talks with Lindsey Wade about her detective expertise, the early days of crime solving, and how free-range parenting changed in the ’90s. Lindsey brings light to many topics in her book, "In My DNA," and more. Show Notes: [0:00] Sheryl sets the scene to the episode and the guest for today’s zone 7 guest [3:10] “Sometimes in your life there will be full circle moments that you could never predict.” [4:17] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl introduces guest, Lindsey Wade to the listeners. Lindsey is a 14-year retired detective and author. Her retirement life has been spent in the SAKE program and as a senior investigator. [7:13] Lindsey's early interest in crime solving [11:23] What happened to free-range parenting? [14:02] “During the search of the vehicle, we found six rolls of various kinds of tape. Thin white rope, a black handle butcher knife under the driver's seat. It's rape. I also observed the interior passenger side door handle was missing.” [16:24] Chapter seven: He picked that time, he picked that hour, he picked that victim. So if you go there, you can get insight from him. So kind of walk us through the importance for you of walking that crime scene from a cold case. [20:35] Question: You are absolutely brilliant at utilizing resources and you do so many smart things like using somebody to help you create a time that includes documents from law enforcement, Department of Corrections, employment history, vehicle registration, address, history. Can you tell us who you used and how that came about? [22:43] Question: So tell us about the John Doe warrant. This is another thing that you did a couple of times that I thought everybody needs to hear that and just be reminded of. [26:23] Sexual predators: residents or predators? [27:09] Dna in CODIS [30::25] “I hate the term peeping Tom. We all know in this business, that's not what they're doing. No. And here's one thing I want people to understand.” [40:00] “Sometimes I'll, I'll hear something about another jurisdiction in another state and I still feel compelled to call 'em and just say, Hey, I know you don't know me, but have you thought of this? You had such a full circle moment with, you know, the child from your community that was killed and then you solved it when you were grown. I mean, I just think that is unbelievable. Twist of fate that was, in my opinion [42:12] “Have no regrets. Change the question mark into an exclamation point. One person can change the world, and I think that sums up Detective Lindsey Wade perfectly Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- About the ‘Zone 7’ Host Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.” McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined again by forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan as they discuss the details of Melissa’s murder case. They dissect potential thoughts from a murderer’s perspective, reasons proper tools are necessary when dismembering a body, the importance of understanding the anatomy of a body, initial problems with the case that could have saved time, and more. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. For this specific episode, listener discretion is advised. This information is not for shock value, but for the facts [0:34] Sheryl gives listeners an overview of Melissa’s case [0:36] If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Victims of Carl Patton - Liddie Evans Children Speak | Part 5, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Joseph Scott Morgan’s Insight on Melissa’s case | Part 6 [2:16] Question: Joe Scott Morgan, What happened to Melissa after she was murdered? [12:52] “Some people rely on their faith. Some people rely on Jack Daniels. I tend to rely on just the human level, and I know when I get in there and I work alone as a crime scene investigator, it's just me and the body.” [15:31] Joe discusses unanswered questions surrounding the type of death Melissa experienced [21:12] Initial problems with this particular case [24:50] Question: Do you think the perpetrator was trying to make sure somebody misidentified her, or do you think it was part of the punishment in domestic violence cases? [25:42] “When you defile a person like this in death, that, that says so much about the psychopathology of the individual that's doing this.” [27:04] Question: What else should we be looking for as investigators? [34:17] “Just remember when you get frustrated by difficult cases. One should not pursue goals which are easily achieved.” Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.” McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan as they discuss the details of Melissa’s murder case. They both not only describe the gruesome details around cases involving beheading and dismemberment but they also bring light to their professions that most never see. They also dissect potential thoughts from a murderer’s perspective, the importance of understanding the anatomy of a body, and more. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Victims of Carl Patton - Liddie Evans Children Speak | Part 5 [4:16] “Our humor is sometimes very dark and a little twisted. But we can't spend all of our time crying.” [4:30] Sheryl McCollum introduces Joseph Scott Morgan to listeners [7:22] Joe is the author of Blood Beneath My Feet: The Journey of a Southern Death Investigator, the host of the hit podcast Body Bags, and a distinguished scholar of applied forensics at Jacksonville State University [10:08] Sheryl gives a brief background of Melissa’s case for those who may be new to joining [15:47] “Avon Avenue is probably in the top five streets in Atlanta that I worked deaths on.” [19:50] Joe details necessary reasons anatomy knowledge is necessary for dismemberment [22:04] Question: With the cases that you have worked on where there was a beheading… Was there also a dismemberment of the arms and legs, or is that rare for even you? [28:26] Question: If Melissa were in fact pregnant, which is something she's told a judge, Something she told her mother. Do you think if he believed that she was pregnant and that her husband was responsible for this murder, do you think he would've buried his child, meaning her torso? [33:01] Geographical profiling [33:13] Join us again next week as Joseph Scott Morgan leads us to the conclusion of what he believes happened to Melissa Wolfenbarger [34:43] Check out Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.” McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by Liddie Evans' children: Philip (son-in-law), Carolyn, Renee, Roy and Sylvia. They join Sheryl to express their experience of losing their mom, Liddie, who was murdered at age 31 by Carl Patton. They discuss the pain they have endured and how life was with and without Liddie. They also each share their feelings about the murder of Melissa and why they ultimately cannot forgive Carl. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4 [2:15] “We were told during the trial that their own daughter, Melissa had been murdered. I wouldn't wish that pain on anybody.” [2:48] Liddie Evans was 31 when she was reported missing [4:52] Question: Philip, did you have anything to do with Melissa’s murder? [5:48] Carolyn, one of Liddie’s daughters details out the events that took place the day Liddy was murdered [6:57] Question: Renee, tell us listeners how your mama, Liddie, was the life of the party? [9:24] Question: Roy, what would you say to Carl Patton if you could? [13:20] Question: Carolyn, do you think Norma was just telling a story while on stand? Do you think she was afraid of Carl or do you think she just didn't care? [15:34] Question: Roy, for you being the oldest and a man, was this even more difficult for you because you could not protect the women in your life at that time? [17:35] Sheryl shares a piece of Carl Patton’s letters with Liddie’s children [17:35] “As I have told you many times, I didn't realize what hurt and harm I'd done till we lost Melissa. Nothing I can say or do will ever change 45 years ago. I have asked my family, the families of the victims, and God to forgive me. I know God will, and I understand why the victim's family won't. I will never forgive Chris, so I do understand their hate toward me.” -Letters from Carl Patton [22:18] Question: Can each of you take a second and think of anything you would like to share on this episode that you feel needs to be on this show? [31:20] “God is the giver and taker of life, not man.” [38:08] “Every person can make a difference and every person should try.” -Dr. E.H Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.” McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by her husband, Walt McCollum, as they read the letters between Sheryl and Melissa’s father, Carl Patton. Carl’s letters detail out the importance of including him in the investigation of Melissa’s murder, the viewpoints from both a victim and a suspect, and insights on the relationship between Melissa and husband, Christopher Wolfenbarger. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3 [1:15] Sheryl introduces the significance of including Carl Patton in Melissa’s investigation [5:42] Flint River Murders [7:14] Timeline of events - In 2003, Carl Miller Patton Jr. Was arrested. He was later convicted of the 1977 murders of Fred. Lidy Matthews Evans and Evan's boyfriend, Joe Cleveland [10:36] Walt McCollum, Sheryl’s husband reads the letters of Carl Patton to the listeners [16:06] “A guilty conscience is a hell on earth that continues to punish and convict, and I deal with it every day.” [21:31] Snippets of Douglas McGregor [23:30] One final letter from Carl... [28:18] “Never look down at anyone unless extending a hand to pick them back up.” -J.R [28:51] Join us next week as we talk exclusively to the children of Liddy Evans. We will have an opportunity to look at Carl's crimes and see if they factor in to the murder of Melissa Wolfenbarger [29:09] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for "Crime Stories with Nancy Grace," and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. On this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum, a Crime Scene Investigator, is joined by Trace Sargent. Trace is one of the nation's leading K9 handlers who specializes in search, rescue, and recovery missions. Trace explains her background and how she fell in love with search and rescue. Trace also explains the way dogs are trained to search, why she uses multiple dogs on searches and a part of running a canine that may go unseen. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed part one or two of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check those out here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2 [2:28] Sheryl gives a brief background of guest, Trace Sargent. Trace is one of the nation's leading K9 handlers who specializes in search, rescue, and recovery missions. [6:27] Trace details the early days of getting involved with training dogs, and animals of all types. [16:22] “I always put people before politics and principles before policies.” T.S [18:59] Sheryl gives a layout of the search party team for Melissa and the introduction to Trace, her dogs on the search, and the environment they experienced in Georgia [21:32] Question: Why would it be important to have two dogs or more on a search such as Melissa’s? [21:56] Natalie Holloway Case [25:26] Trace explains how dogs are trained to find scents [32:09] A part of running a canine that most people don’t see [37:50] “Trust your dog.” -T.P [38:02] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. On this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum, a Crime Scene Investigator, is joined by news anchor for WBS Channel 2 news, Karyn Greer. They comb through the details surrounding Melissa’s case and discuss in length the importance that media has in cases such as Melissa’s. Karyn also discusses her experience of what it’s like to follow a case for such a length of time. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed part one episode of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check it out here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1 [2:00] Sheryl introduces the news anchor for WBS Channel 2 news, Karyn Greer to the listeners [5:00] Question: Seeing as though you have covered this case for quite some time, do you have a method for when witnesses or people want to be interviewed? Can you tell us what that looks like? [8:08] “But something really incredible happened when the assistant district attorney got on the scene. What was that?...” [8:45] Question: When Adrian love stood where the skull was found and saw its proximity to where the husband worked, What was her reaction? [12:12] The media can do things law enforcement just can't do, and one of those things is that they can reach a ton of people with one episode [20:19] Everyone remembers Scott Peterson [21:16] Question: Have you ever seen a case like this before in your career? [24:11] Crime Con [29:04] “Always remember these stories belong to the families. All we can do for them, and the loved ones they've lost is to tell the story. It's for their families. And when the teleprompter keeps rolling, just speak from the heart.” [29:30] Tune in next week when Sheryl is joined by canine search and rescue expert, Trace Sargent Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21 year old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. On this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum, a Crime Scene Investigator, is joined by Norma Patton, Melissa's mother, and Tina Patton, Melissa's sister, to discuss Melissa's life and the complex investigation to identify her remains. The conversation explores the details surrounding Melissa's case and sheds light on the challenges faced by law enforcement in identifying the victim and the killer. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. [1:00] The introduction to the case - Sheryl describes an intricate and complex case. Various [7:30] Norma, who is Melissa's mother, and Tina, who is Melissa's sister, are introduced [10:00] Tina was approached by Melissa's father at her workplace and asked about Melissa's whereabouts, which made her realize the seriousness of the situation [12:30] Despite marital problems, would Melissa ever leave her two children? [13:30] Melissa’s Father, Carl Patton is arrested for 5 murders that occurred in 1973. Norma helped Carl dispose of the bodies [16:00] The unknown skull is identified… as Melissa Walfenberger. Mother of two small children, dead at 21 years old [17:00] A primary suspect? Melissa’s husband, Christopher Wolfenbarger [21:30] How the death of Carl's daughter altered his perspective on the murders he committed [24:00] Melissa did not have a history of causing problems, but it is believed that her husband played a role in her becoming entangled in trouble. [26:00] Going to the location of where Melissa’s skull was found; her husband’s workplace. [29:00] “She told me ‘my husband is in jail for murder and I was on probation cuz I helped him dispose of bodies.’ Now, I don't know about y'all, but that was an unusual start of a conversation for me.” [34:00] As evidence accumulates, a case against Melissa's husband starts to take shape. The circumstantial evidence, coupled with his behavior after Melissa's disappearance, points to him as a potential suspect. [37:00] “Melissa didn't deserve what she got. She did not deserve, you know, however she died.” [37:30] “Thank you Sheryl, and I certainly appreciate everything that you've done cuz we wouldn't [...] have gotten this far without you. You had just as much to do with all of this and getting, getting us to the right people that could actually do something.” [39:00] One of the striking aspects of this case, which even Sheryl has not encountered before, is that a killer has become a crime victim. Carl Patton, Melissa's father, still writes to Sheryl from prison. [40:00] Next week on the show, we will be joined by Karen Greer, a renowned television personality in Atlanta. Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In November of 1987, 49-year-old Fred Wilkerson, a truck driver, last seen on Thanksgiving night, vanished. Fred's car was found a month later in the Atlanta airport's parking lot with two uncashed checks in the car. Years later, Fred’s remains were found in ex-girlfriend, Connie Quedens well. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Clay Bryant as they discuss the case of 49-year-old Fred Wilkerson who vanished in November, 1987. Clay lays out the glaring red flags in Fred's case that went unnoticed years prior, the reason Fred’s son wanted the case further investigated, and what led to Connie’s guilty verdict. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl gives an introduction of Criminal Investigator, Clay Bryant to the listeners [3:00] Solving the West Georgia Murder of Gwendolyn Moore | Chief Clay Bryant Part 1 [3:30] Criminal Investigator, Clay Bryant details out the second case he’s solved involving a well [7:10] 49-year-old Fred Wilkerson was a truck driver that vanished in November of 1987 [8:59] Sheryl and Clay go over some glaring red flags during the disappearance of Fred Wilkerson [10:54] A break in Fred’s case [13:48] “[Clay] became an expert in solvability factors. He would look at what he had and instantly know what he needed to push that case into the endzone. Clay's gift is being able to talk to people and pull information out of them that nobody's ever heard. To stack that information into this pyramid of justice, he does it better than anybody.” [22:16] Clay details out the trial and evidence in the court [28:20] “The truth will always come to light.” [28:50] Next week on Zone 7, we will be discussing the unsolved case of 21-year-old Melissa Wolfenbarger [29:15] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, and scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the morning of August 3rd, 1970, Gwendolyn Moore was hoisted out of a dry well just outside of Hogansville, Georgia. Chief Officer Buddy Bryant was at the scene along with then-fifteen-year-old, Clay Bryant. The case was deemed an accident… until thirty years later. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Clay Bryant. Clay has been recognized as one of the most prolific cold case investigators in the United States. Sheryl and Clay discuss Clay's childhood, growing up in the front seat of his father's police car, and following his footsteps into law enforcement. Clay discusses how old politics can get in the way of solving a case, and how he solved the cold case of Gwendolyn Moore; one of the longest-standing spousal abuse cases Clay has ever seen. Clay also discusses the importance of new technology for solving crimes, and the undeniable value of needing officers to be a part of the community. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl gives an introduction of Criminal Investigator, Clay Bryant to the listeners [5:55] “Even the worst people have some good in them and the best people have some bad in them.” [6:01] Question: Clay, can you tell us about your dad, Chief Buddy Bryant? [10:05] In 1970, Gwendolyn Moore was found on the morning of Aug 3rd in a well adjacent to the house she had lived in… [13:29] “This was the longest-standing case of spousal abuse I’ve ever seen.” [16:51] Murder in Coweta County [25:14] Question: Can you tell us how you started connecting the dots toward prosecution for the murder of Gwendolyn? [33:36] Lo and behold, we had our case [37:07] Solving the West Georgia Murder of Gwendolyn Moore: A Cry From the Well By Clay Bryant [39:57] “He said ‘the downfall of policing was the day they put air conditioning in the patrol car.’ I looked at him, I said, daddy, ‘you've lost your mind. What are you talking about?’ He said, son, ‘that day... it became comfortable to isolate yourself from the people that you need most to be in contact with and to serve.” [41:29] “When you enter a crime scene, don't focus on things. Take in the whole location. Sit there, smell, and taste the air. Then, let your subconscious do the math and go with your gut feeling.” [41:52] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, and scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

18-year-old Brittany Phillips is last seen on September 27, 2004. Just before 10 p.m., she dropped the friend off at home and then drove to her own apartment on 65th Street. The following day, Tulsa Police find Brittany raped and murdered in her Tulsa apartment. In 2019, DNA led to a possible suspect. That person was cleared. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, brings Dr. Maggie Zingman, the mother of Brittany Phillips back onto Zone 7. They discuss the latest evidence discovery in Brittany’s case - a letter mailed after Brittany’s tentative death timeline. This changes the timeline of the case and gives even more reason to reinterview friends and suspects, re analyze all evidence and dna in Brittany’s unsolved murder. ANYONE with ANY information about the murder of Brittany Phillips murder or latest evidence contact the Tulsa Police Department Homicide Unit at 918-596-9135 Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl speaks of new evidence in Brittany’s case [0:15] Caravan to Catch the Killer: Dr. Maggie Zingman’s Devotion to her Daughter [4:03] Sheryl welcomes Dr. Maggie Zingman, the mother of Brittany to Zone 7 back to Zone 7 to speak on behalf of the new evidence discovered [11:00] “If I mailed something for someone, and she was murdered four days later or three days later. I'm sure as hell gonna remember it.” [15:14] Sheryl breaks down Brittany’s autopsy report [19:57] Reasons the case needs a completely new start [20:29] Letter leads to a new timeline in Brittany’s murder [20:48] If you have any information about the letter that is new evidence in Brittanys unsolved case, please contact the Tulsa Police Department Homicide Unit at 918-596-9135 [25:04] “Do not give up. Leave no stone unturned. Look for signs of loved ones, but don't look hard. They'll show up when you're not expecting it.” -S.L [25:34] Next week on Zone 7 Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum will talk with Clay Bryant [26:06] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you love the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, and scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

18-year-old Brittany Phillips is last seen on September 27, 2004. Just before 10 p.m., she dropped the friend off at home and then drove to her own apartment on 65th Street. The following day, Tulsa Police find Brittany raped and murdered in her Tulsa apartment. In 2019, DNA led to a possible suspect. That person was cleared. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Dr. Maggie Zingman, the mother of Brittany Phillips. They discuss what Brittany was like as a young adult, what events led up to the night of the gruesome murder, the benefits and setbacks of DNA involvement, and ultimately the reasons why this case needs to be started over completely. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl introduces Brittany’s case to the listeners [3:09] This case took place in Tulsa, Oklahoma on September 27, 2004. Brittany was 18 years old when police found her in her apartment dead [4:18] The little doorway connected Britt's apartment with other apartments [7:05] Sheryl introduces guest, Dr. Maggie Zingman, the mother of Brittany to Zone 7 [8:08] Question: Can you tell us about when you got the knock at the door from the police? [10:46] Parabon explained [12:04] Question: You know, he's a white guy with blue eyes and blonde hair, and a few freckles. What do you do with that composite? [13:36] Dr. Maggie Zingman’s Vehicle [15:52] Question: What does your local law enforcement think about your caravan and justice? [20:57] “We got a direct hit, and he is not our killer.” [26:25] Let’s walk through the crime… Step by step [30:34] Question: How many interviews do you think you’ve done with media? [34:24] Suspects in the case [40:29] Question: Can you tell the listeners what happened to you between Montana and Wyoming? [44:59] If you have any information about Sept. 27-Sept. 30th, 2004, murder of Brittany Phillips, contact the Tulsa Police Department Homicide Unit at 918-596-9135 [45:23] “Work on things that keep you up at night. be the change every single day. Never give up and know that one day your work will be the answer in the change in someone else's life.” -Dr. Christine Middleman Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On September 4, 2017, 14-year-old Jabez Spann is last seen near 22nd Street and Palamadelia Avenue in Sarasota. His family believes he might have witnessed the murder of 31-year-old Travis Combs before he disappeared. February 16th, 2019 the remains of Jabez Spann were found in rural Manatee County. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Tawana Spann, the mother of Jabez Spann about life before Jabez went missing, what Jabez was like as a child and how the death of her son has been her driving force in helping others heal from losing a loved one. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl gives a brief introduction to the episode involving the unsolved murder of 14-year-old Jabez Spann [1:56] On September 4, 2017, Jabez Spann could not be found [2:15] Sheryl sets the scene for the Labor Day weekend when Jabez went missing [4:21] Hurricane Irma hit Sarasota Florida on September 10th, 2017 [5:23] First twist to the case: Jabez may have witnessed a murder [5:44] Second twist to the case: Reginald Parker witnessed a murder on Aug. 28, 2017 and said he saw a Jabez at the scene during the incident [7:03] “It's two separate people witnessing the same event from different vantage points.” [7:10] Third twist: the murder victim that Jabez possibly witnessed was Travis Combs [8:05] Twist four-six: Reginald goes to jail on unrelated charges, Reginald changes his story once he's inside, and In cold cases, you always work backward [9:32] February 16th, 2019. The remains of Jabez were found on a rural road in Manatee County [10:39] Sheryl introduces guest, Tawana Spann, the mother of Jabez to Zone 7 [11:38] Tawana describes early life with Jabez [18:24] Tawana describes getting the call from her mom regarding Jabez [20:36] ​​”A runaway is a missing person.” [34:38] ANYONE with ANY information is asked to call Crime Stoppers of Sarasota at 941-366-TIPS. A $50,000 reward remains in place for information that leads to an arrest. Please come forward. You can remain anonymous. [38:07] Sarasota adopts a new protocol for missing persons [44:31] Missing Our Voices [45:56] “Sometimes the very thing that causes us pain can be the very thing that heals us.” [48:31] Question: Where does the case stand as of now? [51:58] “Never assume they just ran away. Assume the worst and work down from there. And no matter what, Don't call off the search” -Kelsey German. [52:29] Next week. The secret hidden door inside Britney's apartment was the killer already. Is that why there was no forced entry? Join us and hear Maggie Zing tell you about the murder of her daughter, Brittany. [52:30] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 30, 2006, 34-year-old Allison Jackson Foy is last seen in Wilmington, North Carolina leaving the Junction Billiards Sports Bar where she spent the night drinking with a friend. The bartender calls a cab for Allison, the cab driver shows up at the pub around 2:00 am. Foy never returns home and has not been heard from since. In April 2008, two years after she originally went missing, Allison’s body was found in a ravine on a road called Carolina Beach Road. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with one of Angela Noble’s sisters, Corina Nobles, on her relationship with Angela, Angela’s cycle with drug use, if Angela could have known the suspected killer, and over-all who Angela was as a person. Shownotes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7, episode four regarding the unsolved case of Allison Foy. Sheryl McCollum gives a recap from last week's episode with DA Ben David. If you haven’t heard it, take a listen here: District Attorney Ben David | Allison Foy's Murder, Part 3 [0:32] Victims in this case are Allison Foy and Angela Nobles. Police cannot find a connection between these two victims. [2:45] Sheryl details how the differences in each victim's lives, with only one similarity.. that being the killer [6:03] Sheryl introduces Angela’s sister, Corina Nobles to the listeners. Listen to the interview with Allison Foy’s sister, Lisa Valentino click HERE [7:23] Question: When you first learned that Angela was missing, what were your first thoughts? [9:17] Question: When Angela was younger, did you don't know anything about her being assaulted or mistreated? Or abused in any way? [9:50] “If you really wanna know what's going on in your community, see who's in jail. There's probably a whole lot more drug dealers and gang members and sex offenders. Then you think there are.” [11:58] Question: Angela wanted a better life, didn’t she? [12:07] Question: How long was Angela clean from drug use? [12:26] Question: Did you know once you heard there was some police activity, that there were some remains found? Did you feel like it was going to be Angela? [13:39] Corina details out that the police have never interviewed her about her sister, Angela’s death [14:15] Question: Did your sister, Angela, know Timothy Ioni (the only suspect)? [14:55] Question: What is your fondest memory of Angela? [16:04] Question: If you were to try to explain to a jury, this is who this killer took from me, who was she? [17:29] Question: Corina, is there anything you want to be sure that we know about the case or anything that you think needs to be said that hasn't been said? Anything you haven't put out there that people need to understand anything at all? [18:48] “Bottom line is, what happened to Angela should have never happened regardless of what she did for a living.” [22:47] If you have any information on who murdered Allison Foy and Angela Nobles Rothen. There's a tip line (910) 343-3360. Contact the Wilmington Police Department and let them know what you know. [23:15] Other ways to give anonymous information: contact the CUE Center, or contact Zone 7 [24:15] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollumSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

S2 E3 Podcast Title: District Attorney Ben David Speaks On July 30, 2006, 34-year-old Allison Jackson Foy is last seen in Wilmington, North Carolina leaving the Junction Billiards Sports Bar where she spent the night drinking with a friend. The bartender calls a cab for Allison, the cab driver shows up at the pub around 2:00 am. Foy never returns home and has not been heard from since. In April 2008, two years after she originally went missing, Allison’s body was found in a ravine on a road called Carolina Beach Road. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with the District Attorney, Ben David, on his experience with the cases of Allison Foy, and “Angela”. He goes into extensive detail about Michelle’s success story regarding the same suspect in Allison's Foy’s and Angela’s case, and why it took old school police work to do the job. Ultimately, DA Ben David gives much detail as to why it’s easy to point the finger at who isn’t doing their job…but it takes just enough evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt. Shownotes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7, episode three regarding the unsolved case of Allison Foy. [3:25] Sheryl McCollum gives the listeners a recap of Allison and Angela’s unsolved cases [4:24] Sheryl introduces District Attorney, Ben David to the listeners [4:00] “Your victim today is your suspect, Tomorrow. And your suspect today is your victim, Tomorrow.” John Cross [7:19] Question: Can you walk me through when you first learned about Allison and Angela and how you started piecing it together and what you thought immediately? [8:18] DA Ben David details out another case involving the only suspect, Timothy Ioni and a woman named Sonya (name has been changed for this episode) [9:24] Adverse Childhood Experiences[ [12:35] What is the Al Capone Method? [14:09] Once Ben David knew what was going on with Timothy Ioni, what were his first action steps? [16:52] DA Ben David tells about the break in the case with suspect Timothy Ioni, and the story of 24 year old Michelle [21:42] The Survivors Act [23:18] “That is old school, boots on the ground, hands on every piece of evidence, type of police work that is just extraordinary.” Sheryl McCollum [24:23] What is Y-STR testing? [39:09] Question: Can you tell us about the verdict in Michelle’s case? [40:27] “I've done my best to raise my two boys and get on with my life, he took a piece of me in those woods that I can't give to anyone else anymore.” Michelle [47:58] “You alone can make the difference in solving a case or getting justice for the victim.” Alice, The Prosecutor's Podcast [48:17] I'm Cheryl McCollum, and this is Zone 7 Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum -----------------------------DO NOT POST PAST THIS POINT----------------------------See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 30, 2006, 34-year-old Allison Jackson Foy is last seen in Wilmington, North Carolina leaving the Junction Billiards Sports Bar where she spent the night drinking with a friend. The bartender calls a cab for Allison and the cab driver shows up at the pub around 2:00 am. Foy never returns home and has not been heard from since. In April 2008, two years after she originally went missing, Allison’s body was found in a ravine on a road called Carolina Beach Road. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Lisa Valentino, sister of homicide victim Allison Foy and Monica Caison, founder of The CUE Center for Missing Persons. Monica details how The CUE was started, her mission behind helping families, the importance of trusting ‘street people’, and The CODIS database. Show Notes: [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7, episode two regarding the unsolved case of Allison Foy. Sheryl McCollum introduces Monica Caison to the listeners [5:43] Question: Tell us about the Cue Center? How it was started and what is it all about? [8:50] If you’re interested in volunteering with the Cue Center check out website https://ncmissingpersons.org/about/ for further information [8:52] Question: Monica, Do you have any idea how many searches you have been on? [10:32] Question: When you first met with Lisa, Allison’s sister, did you have a plan in your head or were you just ready to get out there and start searching? [18:08] Monica recalls stories of families grieving at memorial sights [27:14] CODIS database [30:19] “It’s the squeaky wheel that gets the oil.” -Former Chief of Wilmington Police, Ralph Evangelist [29:02] “This is not an unsolved case. It's an unproven case.” [35:03] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. --- Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases. You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org Social Links: Email: [email protected] Twitter: @ColdCaseTips Facebook: @sheryl.mccollumSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On July 30, 2006, 34-year-old Allison Jackson Foy is last seen in Wilmington, North Carolina leaving the Junction Billiards Sports Bar where she spent the night drinking with a friend. The bartender calls a cab for Allison and the cab driver shows up at the pub around 2:00 am. Foy never returns home and has not been heard from since. In April 2008, two years after she originally went missing, Allison’s body was found in a ravine on a road called Carolina Beach Road. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Lisa Valentino, sister of homicide victim Allison Foy regarding the disappearance of Allison, their childhood and what Allison was like as a person. What lead up to the disappearance and murder of Allison. Sheryl and Lisa also detail out efforts to keep the murder investigation going and how Detective Lee Odom has kept the hope alive. Show Notes: [0:00] Introduction to Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum [1:41] Brief overview of the homicide case involving victim, Allison Foy [3:25] Introduction to Lisa Valentino, Allison’s sister [4:55] Question: Tell us about Allison. Growing up? Your family? [5:51] “A comment that I've always gotten about her is that even if you met her for the first time, it seemed as if you had known her for a long time. She was just full of life… loved life.” -Lisa V [6:30] The call Lisa received from her dad regarding Allison being missing [9:36] Lisa details out going to Wilmington, hiring a private investigator, and getting connected with Monica and Cue Center for Missing Persons [14:48] Question: Some time has gone by and then you guys get some information that some remains have been found. How does that come about? [17:57] Law enforcement hits Lisa with another twist [21:41] Question: Can you tell us what happened the night Allison went out to celebrate her new job with friends, and went missing? [23:04] A cab driver... The only person of interest [24:14] A second victim named Sonya manages to escape [26:15] Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum details going to Wilmington [29:46] A new witness comes forward [29:54] Introduction to Detective Lee Odom [32:06] The relationship between law enforcement and district attorney [34:06]Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to iTunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Part 3. On January 26, 1994, 17-year-old Tami Renee Jackson’s body is discovered. Port Authority workers on Hutchinson Island, near Savannah, Georgia, find Tami; she has been stabbed more than 130 times, is bound, and has been run over by a vehicle. Investigators process evidence at the scene and conduct interviews with potential witnesses, but eventually, the case goes cold. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, recaps Tami’s cold case with Stacy Patterson, sister of Tami Jackson. Stacy discusses how her emotions and grief process around getting the phone call that Tami was pronounced dead by murder. Sheryl explains how new technology makes this case solvable and educates the listeners on types of tools that could be used to catch the murderer(s?) Show Notes: 0:00 Introduction to Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum 0:10 Brief overview of the homicide case involving victim, Tami Jackson [2:31] A quote from the medical examiner… “This was a slow death. Tammy Jackson suffered before she died.” [3:15] Stacy shares her experience getting the call about Tami’s death [5:37] “You're not only dealing with the information coming so slowly, but you're also just dealing with the whole grief process…” -Stacy [7:13] Tami Jackson’s case is currently ongoing and solvable [8:06] Detective Tara Smith and all her conviction [9:21] Describing M-Vac [9:58] Describing the Bardole Method [10:23] Describing Phenotyping [11:27] CODIS explained [13:43] This is a LIVE ongoing case… Anyone with information should come forward [14:40] Zone 7 is not just a podcast. Listeners are part of this cold case. Anybody can solve a cold case and everybody should try. If you think of something we hadn't thought of, let me know. Hit me up on social media. Email me, call me [16:23] Thank you for joining us on Zone 7. We'll see you next time as we take on the case of 19 year old Britney Phillips, raped and strangled in her own apartment just across the street from her former school. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Part 2. On January 26, 1994, 17-year-old Tami Renee Jackson’s body is discovered. Port Authority workers on Hutchinson Island, near Savannah, Georgia, find Tami; she has been stabbed more than 130 times, is bound, and has been run over by a vehicle. Investigators process evidence at the scene and conduct interviews with potential witnesses, but eventually, the case goes cold. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator Sheryl McCollum talks with the Savannah Police Cold Case Unit, Detective Tarra Smith, about the details regarding the murder of young Tami Jackson. Detective Smith describes the wooded and remote landscape of Hutchinson Island, discusses how the method of murder and placement of Tami’s body may indicate an organized killing, and lays out the many complexities of Tami’s case, including her relationship with a variety of individuals. Detective Smith vows to work tirelessly and to utilize every available resource, including the advancement of forensic technologies, to identify the person(s) responsible for murdering innocent Tami Jackson. [0:00] Introduction to Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum [1:08] Brief overview of the homicide case involving victim, Tami Jackson [1:10] Introduction of Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum [1:36] Victimology: Sheryl reviews Zone 7’s previous episode [4:14] Introduction of Detective Tarra Smith [4:53] Description of Hutchinson Island and the crime scene [9:29] Detective Smith describes how she initially ignores the investigator’s narrative and starts from ground zero with every investigation, regardless of how old the case might be [10:57] Overkill: the excessive manner in which Tami Jackson is murdered [13:46] Detective Smith describes the murder scene and lists the technological limitations of the time [16:47] How investigators identify the victim [17:34] With an extensive list of potential suspects, Tami’s case becomes more complicated [23:07] “Men know when other men are not on the up and up.” -Sheryl McCollum. A witness’ intuition indicates that Tami is in a bad situation [24:58] Content in Tami’s diary confirms she is an innocent child, full of naivety, searching for love and happiness [28:17] Examining the evidence, working the narratives, and extensively researching and sifting through the many layers and complexities of Tami’s relationships [32:08] Calling on the expertise of others and utilizing new forensic technologies [36:58] Sheryl concludes the interview with Detective Tarra Smith See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Part 1. On January 26, 1994, 17-year-old Tami Renee Jackson’s body is discovered. Port Authority workers on Hutchinson Island, near Savannah, Georgia, find Tami; she has been stabbed more than 130 times, is bound, and has been run over by a vehicle. Investigators process evidence at the scene and conduct interviews with potential witnesses, but eventually, the case goes cold. In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Stacy Patterson, sister of Tami Jackson. They discuss how Sheryl became involved in the case, what life was like for Tami and her siblings, the events leading up to Tami’s brutal murder, and the family’s efforts to keep the murder investigation moving forward. Stacy shares how the detective assigned to the case, Detective Tarra Smith, has inspired renewed hope that after more than two decades, there will finally be justice for Tami Jackson. Show Notes: 0:00 - Introduction to Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum 1:18 - Brief overview of the homicide case involving victim, Tami Jackson 2:28 - Introduction of Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum 4:23 - Facts from the case and the approximate timetable of Tami’s last hours of life 8:15 - Sheryl describes how she became involved in the case 9:46 - Who was Tami Jackson? 12:00 - Introduction of Stacy Patterson, sister of Tami Jackson 13:56 - Stacy Patterson describes Tami and what life was like growing up with her siblings 12:08 - Events that lead to Tami moving out of the family home 26:05 - Tami Jackson’s cold case is assigned to a new detective, Detective Tarra Smith 21:53 - Sheryl and Stacy invite Carl Marino of Homicide Hunter to assist in raising funds for further testing of the crime scene evidence 31:34 - Stacy describes the efforts she and her family go to, to keep the investigation moving forward 34:08 - Officials working on the case are determined to find whoever is responsible for Tami Jackson’s murder 35:35- Facebook: Justice for Tami Jackson, and Detective Smith’s resolve 37:15 - Sheryl concludes the interview with Stacy Patterson and shares information about Zone 7 Episode: 2 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Work a cold case alongside investigator Sheryl “Mac” McCollum, Director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. Every week, Sheryl dives into her cold case files alongside accomplished guests to look for clues into unsolved murders, missing people, and more. This ain’t just a podcast but a war room. Sheryl opens her cold case files, her heart and her little black book! You will quickly realize Zone 7 is not a place but a lifestyle!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.