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Life in Crypto After FTX
The collapse of Sam Bankman-Fried’s FTX cryptocurrency empire was accelerated when the head of a rival exchange announced he was planning to dump holdings of something called FTT—a token created by FTX that afforded some perks to investors who owned it. At one point, the token was one of the 10 biggest coins in the market, which would have made it eligible for the Bitwise 10 Crypto Index Fund.However, Bitwise never added FTT to the fund. Matt Hougan, chief investment officer of Bitwise Asset Management, joined the What Goes Up podcast to discuss the damage caused by the implosion of FTX and explained why the fund snubbed its coin. “We look at assets that are at undue risk of being found in violation of federal securities laws,” he said. “FTT fell into that framework because we thought it was likely, or possible, to be deemed a security by regulators. And it was largely internally controlled, in our view.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

FTX Shows Crypto Still the ‘Wild West’
FTX Cryptocurrency Exchange rattled the financial world this week when a crisis of investor confidence triggered a run, forcing the company to scramble for a buyer or bailout to avoid collapse. Joining the What Goes Up podcast to discuss the chaos that ensued are Sadie Raney, chief executive of the crypto hedge fund Strix Leviathan, and Nico Cordeiro, its chief investment officer. The firm said it had a limited amount of funds with FTX frozen. “We’ve been through a number of market crashes,” says Raney. “We’ve used Voyager in the past. We also used BlockFi. And when there were some indicators that maybe they were, I guess you could say over their skis, we stopped trading with them.” “This one,” Raney said, “I don’t think anyone saw coming.” Cordeiro adds that while their firm has “some funds frozen there,” it was “a small portion of our portfolio allocated there—simply because this space is the wild west.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Institutions' Slow-Motion Crypto Embrace
Cryptocurrency news this year has been filled with stories about how institutional investors are embracing digital assets. So if more big players are entering the space, why are prices for Bitcoin, Ether and other tokens so depressed compared with last year’s peaks? Leah Wald, chief executive of digital-asset investment firm Valkyrie Investments Inc., joined the What Goes Up podcast to share her thoughts on the topic. “Institutions have a longer time horizon. They also, as a fiduciary, cannot just jump in with a strategy,” Wald said. “There’s a lot of other hurdles that institutions have—whether it’s risk parameters, among others, and also just generally the vehicle that they need in order to buy it.” Wald also sheds light on the outlook for blockchain miners, use cases for crypto in developing markets and the prospects for a spot Bitcoin exchange-traded fund. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Worst Way to Fix Inflation
There are better ways to combat inflation than destroying demand with interest-rate increases, according to Nela Richardson, chief economist for payroll giant Automatic Data Processing Inc. She joined the latest What Goes Up podcast to give her take on half-century record American employment, decades-high inflation and signs of softness in the US housing market. “It’s about productivity,” Richardson says. “Productivity grows you out of inflation when more workers produce more output for the same amount of cost. That’s what productivity is. That’s what gets you out of the inflation wage-price spiral conundrum.” But to do that, she says, business and government need to invest in jobs and workers—something they haven’t been good at recently. “It takes more partnerships with community colleges to build an agile and skilled workforce in the places that the economy needs it,” Richardson says.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Fed Is Playing a ‘Dangerous Game’
The stock market has been getting very volatile as the US Federal Reserve continues its historic effort to squash rising prices. Proclamations from policymakers suggest the central bank won’t let up until inflation is under control—even if it means trouble for the economy. Officials may raise rates by another 75 basis points at their upcoming November meeting, and the same again in December, according to Kristina Hooper, chief global market strategist at Invesco. “Seventy five is the new 25,” she says. “When you are raising rates in 75-basis-point increments and you’re not giving any time for it to process through and make its way through into the data, you’re playing a dangerous game,” she says on the latest episode of What Goes Up. “And the more you’re doing it, the more likelihood you create of having a recession—and a significant recession.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Paul Volcker, Market Psychologist
Another hot inflation reading this week underscores the importance of the US Federal Reserve’s campaign to tame decades-high increases in consumer prices, with many market observers evoking the memory of a similar effort by the central bank’s larger-than-life former chairman, Paul Volcker. One key to Volcker’s success in the 1980s, achieved through interest-rate hikes and control of the money supply, was setting the appropriate expectations in the financial markets, according to Christine Harper, editor of Bloomberg Markets magazine and co-author of Volcker’s memoirs, Keeping at It: The Quest for Sound Money and Good Government. Harper joined the latest episode of What Goes Up to discuss her experience with Volcker, and what lessons learned from his time as Fed chief are useful today. “Psychology was really important,” she said. “He really understood the psychology of investors, the psychology of consumers and business people. And so much of what he did, and the inflation fight, was basically around changing the psychology.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Flash Boys in the Crypto Cloud
Institutional investors are playing a more-influential role in crypto markets as retail traders retreat, and that explains much of the recent range-bound price action, according to Michael Safai of proprietary trading firm Dexterity Capital. “We might have been playing checkers two years ago,” said Safai, whose firm traded more than $1.2 trillion in crypto last year. “We’re playing chess now.” Safai joined the What Goes Up podcast this week to discuss the state of the digital-asset market and how high-frequency crypto trading strategies differ from the famous “Flash Boys” of the stock market. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Liz Truss's Ronald Reagan Moment
UK Prime Minister Liz Truss triggered the latest wave of turbulence in global markets after announcing economic plans that include unfunded tax cuts. The move crushed the value of the pound while sending the already struggling country’s borrowing costs soaring.To Julian Emanuel, chief equity and quantitative strategist at Evercore ISI, the move was reminiscent of US tax cuts imposed under Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, what came to be known as “Reaganomics.” In both cases, the policy was at odds with moves by other nations’ efforts to combat high inflation. Emanuel joined this week’s What Goes Up podcast to discuss the latest bout of volatility across asset classes, and the role the new Tory leader has played in causing it. “It does represent a radical change in policy that is more evocative of Reagan,” he says. “And investors are going to have to get used to it.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A Quant's Take on Inflation
Sometimes it feels like you need to be a rocket scientist to trade successfully in modern markets. Well, George Patterson used to be one, having began his career at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory before turning his attention to investing with quantitative strategies.Now he’s the chief investment officer of PGIM Quantitative Solutions, which oversees about $91.5 billion of PGIM’s $1.5 trillion in assets under management. Patterson joined the latest episode of the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss his approach and share his thoughts on inflation, the Federal Reserve’s efforts to fight it, and what it all means for markets. Normalization of inflation will be a “multi-year trend,” he says.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A 'Cheat Code' for the Bond Market
George Cipolloni’s son is a video-game aficionado, and the teenager’s language has clearly worn off on his father. Indeed, the portfolio manager at Penn Mutual Asset Management jokes he’s found a “cheat code” in the bond market that’s helped his balanced strategy beat its benchmark with a heavy allocation to high-yield corporate debt. But don’t be alarmed: His “code” is really just fundamental analysis used to find bonds with attractive yields, but little risk. Cipolloni joined the latest episode of “What Goes Up” to discuss the strategy and offer his reaction to the wild ride in markets following the surprise inflation report on Sept. 13. Some highlights of the conversation: “So the ‘cheat code’ in the bond market for me and for our strategy is: Where can you limit risk or where can you lower risk in a high-yield security? Well, you can find certain smaller securities because we are a small fund at the moment and we can buy these smaller securities, smaller issues. And you can find companies that have more cash than debt on the balance sheet.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Long Runway for Bond Shorts
Selling bonds short—a trade that for decades hadn’t worked consistently—has helped fuel a 37% return so far this year for the managed-futures strategy fund at AlphaSimplex Group. And the trade looks like it has further to go, according to Kathryn Kaminski, chief research strategist at the quantitative-investing firm. She joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss this and other market moves that have made trend following in futures markets such a lucrative strategy this year. “The short-bond trade has more legs to run,” Kaminski says. “A lot of the core problems that have driven [markets] to the point where we are now have yet to be completely solved.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A Farmer's Take on the Economy
Rising food prices have been one of the big drivers of inflation this year as farmers across America were hit with price spikes for fertilizer and fuel. They’ve also been forced to grapple with lingering supply-chain issues and labor shortages. Brian Duncan, operator of a family farm and vice president of the Illinois Farm Bureau, joins this week’s episode of “What Goes Up” to talk about the agricultural commodities markets and offer his perspective on the US economy as he plans for next year’s crops.“I do not see our prices coming down anytime soon,” he says. “Remember how base-fossil fuel dependent agriculture is, both on the fuel side and on the fertilizer side. I don’t see a solution.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Siegel on Inflation, the Fed and Meme Stocks
Jeremy Siegel, a longtime professor of finance at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School and author of “Stocks for the Long Run,” joined the latest episode of the “What Goes Up” podcast alongside Jeremy Schwartz, global chief investment officer at WisdomTree, to discuss the state of the economy, inflation and markets. Siegel also threw in some advice for retail traders caught up in the meme-stock craze. “I always recommend to young people, if you want to play with 10% or 15% of your portfolio in those games, fine. But, you know, put the other 85 into some sort of a long-term index fund that will have meaning for you when you finally become an adult,” he said. “Do not make that a big portion of your portfolio unless you have unbelievably excess money and you can afford to lose 80% of it.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How to Beat the S&P 500 by 30 Percentage Points
By mimicking strategies common among some quantitative hedge-fund firms, the iM DBi Managed Futures Strategy ETF has surged 21% so far this year—beating the S&P 500 Index by about 30 percentage points. Andrew Beer, one of the managers of the active exchange traded fund, joined the latest episode of the “What Goes Up” podcast to explain the secrets of its success amid a brutal year for both stocks and bonds. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Beware an 'Inflation Head Fake'
The chief investment officer of Morgan Stanley Wealth Management has a warning for investors who are chasing the latest rally in stocks: Don’t get too excited about a potential peak in inflation after the consumer price index cooled off a bit in July. Lisa Shalett joined this week’s episode of the “What Goes Up” podcast to explain the firm’s cautious stance toward the market, and how CPI is still elevated enough that the Federal Reserve needs to continue lifting rates aggressively. “The direction is correct, but the levels are wrong,” she says of the latest inflation data. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Fighting Inflation With ETFs
Investors are turning to some thematic exchange-traded funds to hedge against inflation and take advantage of the renewed performance of value stocks this year, according to Jay Jacobs, US head of thematics and active equity ETFs at BlackRock. Jacobs joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss how the firm is sizing up investing opportunities amid the uncertain economic outlook. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Reading the Fed Tea Leaves
Mimi Duff, senior client adviser at the $3 billion registered investment adviser GenTrust, joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss the outlook for markets, the economy and borrowing costs following the latest Federal Reserve interest-rate increase and a second-straight quarter of negative economic growth. Duff also explains the rationale behind some of the more interesting investments her firm is excited about, including biotech and uranium exchange-traded funds. And she gives her thoughts on the bond market, and what areas of markets are attractive following this year’s selloff.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Citi Sizes Up the Markets
While China’s stock market has been seen as a pariah by some global investors this year, Citigroup is taking a contrarian view, positing a bullish outlook for the nation’s equities even while favoring defensive stocks in the US. Shawn Snyder, head of investment strategy at Citi US Wealth Management, joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss how the firm is sizing up investing opportunities amid an uncertain economic outlook. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

New Risk: Self-Fulfilling Recession Calls
Mark Zandi, who has been an economist for more than three decades, says he’s never seen so many people convinced that a recession is imminent. And while he believes the US economy can still avoid an economic downturn, sentiment is so poor that it poses its own risks. Zandi, the chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss his outlook after government data this week showed the highest level of inflation in almost 41 years. “I talk to CEOs, CFOs, investors, friends, family—to the person, they think we're going into recession. I've never seen anything like it,” Zandi says. “When sentiment is so fragile, it’s not going to take a whole lot to push us in.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How Amateurs Lost Billions on Options
During the day-trading craze that erupted amid the Covid-19 pandemic’s lockdowns, market professionals repeatedly warned a new flock of Reddit-reading, Robinhood-using retail investors that equity options were risky, and that bold bets in that market could end badly. It turns out their caution was spot on. Day-traders managed to lose more than $1 billion during the bull market, with the bill climbing to $5 billion when the cost of doing business with market-makers is factored in, according to Svetlana Bryzgalova, Anna Pavlova and Taisiya Sikorskaya of the London Business School. The three researchers joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to talk about the findings of their study, and discuss what retail traders need to know about options trading.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Cash Is Not Trash
It’s a common motto among investors: Cash is trash. But Oksana Aronov, head of market strategy, alternative fixed income at J.P. Morgan Asset Management, says not so fast. “I’ve been hearing about investors losing money sitting in cash, and that cash is trash for as long as I’ve been in this industry,” she said on this week’s episode of “What Goes Up.” “But the reality is that if you have been in cash for the last five years, you’ve essentially outperformed the Bloomberg Barclays aggregate index year to date, over one year, three years, and, depending on the day, yes, even five years.” Aronov says that risks are currently skewed to the downside, and that she and her team prefer to have a lot of liquidity in their portfolio because “it serves as a free option, essentially, on any asset class in the world.” Opportunities will come by, perhaps in the coming months. “For us, this is still a capital-preservation part of the cycle, although I think we’re closer to the end of it than we were a couple months ago.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bracing for a Recession
Fiona Cincotta, senior financial markets analyst at City Index in London, joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss what she expects in markets, especially as US investors brace for what some say is the increasing potential for recession.“I think a ‘soft landing’ is optimistic—we’ll put it that way,” Cincotta says, adding that she puts the probability of a downturn in the near future at more than 50%. However, the still-hot American jobs market could ease the sting of any economic contraction. “It could be that the jobs market is actually the saving grace for the US economy,” she says.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Revenge of the Hedge Funds
Anastasia Amoroso, the chief investment strategist at iCapital, joined the latest episode of “What Goes Up” to discuss the market volatility that followed the US Federal Reserve’s interest-rate hike and how hedge funds are attracting client interest again after years of languishing in the bull market. “In this environment, where nothing seems to be working, investors are looking for something that is—and right now that is in the hedge fund space,” she says. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Stock Market Gets Ironic
It’s a market environment that Alanis Morissette could write a verse about. Any positive upcoming US economic data may very well receive a poor reaction in the stock market, since it could embolden the Federal Reserve to continue its aggressive campaign to tame inflation. Anthony Saglimbene, global markets strategist at Ameriprise Financial, joined the latest episode of “What Goes Up” to discuss how to navigate a market where good news is bad news again. Isn’t it ironic?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What This Money Manager Learned Traveling in Covid-Zero China
Wenting Shen, an analyst and portfolio manager at Harding Loevener, is traveling through China while navigating the country’s strict Covid-zero policies, visiting executives at the companies she covers to see how they’re faring. She joins the latest episode of “What Goes Up” to discuss what she’s learned on her trip, and how Covid-19 and the trade war begun by Donald Trump have altered China’s economy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

`I Need a Solid Panic’
Victoria Greene, founding partner and chief investment officer at Texas-based G Squared Private Wealth, joined the latest episode of “What Goes Up” to discuss the mood of clients and why she thinks the 2022 market selloff isn’t over yet.“Not to sound like a snob, but I need a solid panic,” she says. “We just haven’t seen that solid, absolute capitulation—everything selling off. We aren’t there yet.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One Word That Triggers Putin
Daniel Yergin was at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum in 2013 when he got a daunting request: Could he pose the first question from the audience to Vladimir Putin?“I started to ask a question, I mentioned the word ‘shale,’” he recalls, referring to a once-unconventional source of oil and natural gas that by then was flowing freely in the US “And he started shouting at me, saying shale’s barbaric.”Yergin, the vice chairman of S&P Global, discussed the incident on the latest episode of “What Goes Up,” along with other insights from his book “The New Map: Energy, Climate, and the Clash of Nations.” American shale oil and gas has had a much bigger impact on geopolitics than people recognize, Yergin said. Even in 2013, it posed a threat to Putin in two ways: “One, because it meant that US natural gas would compete with his natural gas in Europe, and that’s what we’re seeing today. And secondly, this would really augment America’s position in the world and give it a kind of flexibility it didn’t have when it was importing 60% of its oil.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is Beyoncé Recession-Proof?
As the Federal Reserve’s efforts to tame inflation roil both stocks and bonds, investors everywhere are struggling to figure out the best way to play defense in markets amid concerns that a recession is on the horizon. One of the top executives at Goldman Sachs Asset Management has a surprising idea: Beyoncé. Katie Koch, the chief investment officer for public equities at GSAM, quips that “Beyoncé is ultimately recession-resistant” and so are other popular artists. That’s why the portfolios she helps oversee own shares of live-concert companies in the U.S. and Europe. While Live Nation Entertainment Inc. got hit hard during last year’s Covid-19 lockdowns, she points out that the company actually weathered the previous recession well and managed to grow revenue in both 2008 and 2009. “So the consumer will spend in a recession,” she says, but “they'll be quite selective in terms what they spend on.” Another example is beauty products, she adds. And Koch doesn’t buy the notion that China is uninvestable: “You can buy assets here in the US as well as assets in China that are overly discounted for something that we know is eventually going to work out, which is that the economy will reopen” Koch joined this this week’s episode of the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss the state of play in markets and why -- despite share prices that have crashed over the past year -- investing in innovative companies is still a good idea for the long term. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Case for a Soft Landing
The U.S. Federal Reserve’s effort to tame inflation with aggressive interest-rate hikes has some investors worried that a recession is inevitable, leading to a plunge in stock prices this year. Not so fast, says Jeremy Zirin, senior portfolio manager and head of private client U.S. equities at UBS Asset Management. Zirin joined the latest episode of What Goes Up to discuss his outlook for markets and the economy, and why he thinks the probability of a soft landing and longer expansion is higher than many believe. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Irrational Exuberance Is Dying (Again)
Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan famously used the phrase “irrational exuberance” to describe the euphoric investor sentiment that sent tech stocks soaring in the late 1990s. And everyone knows what happened next, when that exuberance wore off. Now, history is repeating itself when it comes to some of the disruptive and innovative companies that were market darlings during the lockdown phase of the pandemic, but have since been clobbered by a “dose of realism,” according to Aoifinn Devitt, chief investment officer at Moneta Group Investment Advisors.Devitt joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss this and other hot topics in markets, such as inflation, rates and the outlook for consumer spending. It’s not all bad news for the disrupters of the corporate world, however. They’re still darlings of venture capital markets and, she adds, “I don't think that our fascination and our obsession with innovation is likely to go away anytime soon.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Better Days Ahead?
Investors have a lot to worry about: Russia’s war on Ukraine, inflation, Covid-19 and China’s lockdowns reigniting supply-chain woes— the list goes on. As a result, many money managers have ratcheted down their expectations for stock returns this year. But what if fears of a possible U.S. recession are overblown, and the second half turns out better than expected? Given still-strong earnings from corporate America, things may not end up as bad as some are predicting. Sylvia Jablonski, chief executive and co-founder of Defiance ETFs, joins this week’s episode of What Goes Up to talk about a potentially rosier future. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Clear as Mud
It’s been difficult for even the most-seasoned veterans to discern a market message right now. Oil’s up one day and stocks fall. The next day, crude prices rise and so do stocks. Or bonds rally, and so do equities, and then the reverse happens just a few days later. Peter van Dooijeweert, managing director of multi-asset solutions at Man Group, joined this week's "What Goes Up" podcast to talk about that and the right asset classes to be in as the Federal Reserve continues its fight against inflation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Globalization’s Public Defender
Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss how Russia’s invasion of Ukraine threatens to further separate the world’s economies, and how a 20-year-long backlash to globalization is causing the U.S. to fall behind. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sunburn and Frost Bite
David Bianco, chief investment officer of the Americas for fund manager DWS Group, joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss his cautious near-term outlook for the stock market: “We're quite concerned about the longevity of this cycle. I feel as if this cycle has aged quickly. It's aged mostly from very high inflation, much earlier than you typically see in the first couple of years of a new economic expansion.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Great Wormhole Robbery
Dave Olsen, president and chief investment officer of Jump Trading Group, joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss his firm’s investment in cryptocurrency markets, and why it spent $320 million to rescue a project called Wormhole after hackers made off with 120,000 tokens known as “wrapped Ether.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Fed Hawks Take Flight
The Federal Reserve raised interest rates by a quarter percentage point and signaled that six more such increases are likely this year—essentially fulfilling what markets were already pricing in. Bloomberg’s Edward Harrison and Ben Emons of Medley Global Advisors join this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss the ramifications of the expected Fed move for financial markets.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Will OPEC Ride to the Rescue?
The OPEC+ oil cartel may not ramp up oil production enough to offset the loss of Russian supply that has sent crude above $100 a barrel, according to Javier Blas. Blas, the co-author of “The World For Sale: Money, Power, and the Traders Who Barter the Earth’s Resources” and a Bloomberg Opinion columnist, joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss the global energy supply shock. One highlight of the conversation: “Putin has been talking to Mohammed bin Salman, who is the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. And they have been talking about energy and energy cooperation. So I think that OPEC may not come to the rescue this time, just because they're just working with the Russians.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Markets in Wartime
When assessing what a political leader is going to do, Marko Papic doesn’t pay much attention to what the person’s desires are. Instead, he looks at what he calls “material constraints.” In other words, what factors will limit the leader’s ability to get what he or she wants. To Papic, the chief strategist at hedge-fund seeding firm Clocktower Group, Russia’s Vladimir Putin is ignoring his material constraints with the invasion of Ukraine. And ultimately, he says, that could lead to Putin’s downfall. Papic joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss the war and its effects on markets. “I give Putin 12 months, and I’m taking the under,” said Papic, the author of “Geopolitical Alpha: An Investment Framework for Predicting the Future.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Learning to Love Crypto Volatility
Meltem Demirors, chief strategy officer at CoinShares International Ltd., joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss this year’s collapse in cryptocurrencies and how traditional financial institutions are growing more comfortable with the asset class’s volatility.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After the K-Shaped Recovery
Peter Atwater, the consultant and finance professor who coined the phrase “K-shaped recovery” to describe the rebound from the 2020 recession, joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss how a wide disparity in consumer confidence could affect the economy and markets. One thing that’s caught his eye lately: A troubling move out of stock-market investing and into online gambling among young people. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do Valuations Matter?
We’ve all heard it a million times: stocks got really expensive in the post-financial crisis bull market, especially when looking at cyclically adjusted valuation metrics that include corporate earnings over the past decade. But what should investors do with that information? Victor Haghani, founder and CIO of Elm Wealth — and one of the founding partners of Long-Term Capital Management — joins this week’s “What Goes Up” to weigh in, discuss recent market volatility and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Growing Crypto Ecosystem
Crypto was red-hot in 2021 — so much so that it spawned a whole ecosystem of related products, including the first Bitcoin futures exchange-traded fund in the U.S. But can companies maintain enthusiasm for the growing industry as prices tumble in the new year? Hany Rashwan, co-founder and CEO of 21Shares, a provider of crypto exchange-traded products, joins this week's "What Goes Up" to talk about that and his company's plans for expanding its own offerings.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Big Risk for Risk Parity
The balanced-portfolio strategy known as risk parity, which typically relies on investing in both stocks and bonds, needs to adapt as both asset classes come under pressure in a rising-rate environment, according to Max Gokhman, the chief investment officer at AlphaTrAI Inc. Gokhman joined the "What Goes Up" podcast to discuss this and other current market topics, as well as how his firm is applying artificial intelligence to investing. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When the Fever Breaks
Morgan Stanley’s Andrew Slimmon joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss how loading up on cyclical stocks helped the MSIF U.S. Core Portfolio mutual fund that he co-manages post a 36% return in 2021, and how he’s reluctant to buy the dip in high-growth stocks because “once the fever breaks, it lasts a long time.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dissecting the Tech Wreck
Technology stocks have gotten clobbered this year, and investor attention has focused on rising interest rates as the reason behind it. But that’s not the whole story, says Bloomberg Intelligence Chief Equity Strategist Gina Martin Adams.On this episode, she helps dissect the shifting leadership in the U.S. stock market and shares her thoughts on an upcoming earnings season that—thanks to inflation, supply chain chaos and other pandemic fallout—remains shrouded in mystery.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Time to Sell Weakness?
Wells Fargo’s head of equity strategy Chris Harvey joined the “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss why he’s predicting a 10% market correction by the summer and share his thoughts on the volatility that followed this week’s Federal Reserve meeting minutes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Markets in Hindsight
It was another winning year for John Authers’s Hindsight Capital LLC! The Bloomberg columnist and senior editor joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss how it only took a little imagination – and a lot of hindsight – to make some triple-digit winning trades at his make-believe hedge fund.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crypto Coverage Explained
Bloomberg’s managing editor for cryptocurrency coverage, Stacy-Marie Ishmael, joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss the wild year in crypto and what she’ll be watching going into 2022.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feeling ‘22
UBS Asset Management strategist Luke Kawa joined this week’s “What Goes Up” podcast to discuss his team’s outlook for 2022, as well as the market’s reaction to plans by the Federal Reserve to reduce asset purchases and eventually raise interest rates.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Crypto Goes to Congress
FTX is a phenom in the world of crypto exchanges. The company has grown tremendously since its inception a few years ago. This week, Sam Bankman-Fried, founder and chief executive officer of the cryptocurrency exchange, testified to Congress about how the space should be regulated. The next day, Bankman-Fried and FTX US President Brett Harrison joined Bloomberg’s “What Goes Up” podcast to talk about that and more.Mentioned in this podcast:Crypto: Best Photos of 2021Key Takeaways From Crypto Stablecoin Hearing Before House Panel FTX’s Bankman-Fried on Crypto Regulation, Solana Meltdown, NFTsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.