Doris Kearns Goodwin & Michael Goodwin - Learning Through History
An episode for every listener... Doris Kearns Goodwin & Michael Goodwin join Ben and Becky for an interview about what teachers can glean from presidents, the importance of interdisciplinary education, and the fundamental purpose of education
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Show Notes
Episode 038: Doris Kearns Goodwin & Michael Goodwin, Learning from History
Connect with Doris Kearns Goodwin
Website: https://doriskearnsgoodwin.com/ | Twitter: @DorisKGoodwin
Connect with Michael Goodwin
Website: https://riversc9.wixsite.com/riversandrevolutions/michael-goodwin-rivers
Connect with Vrain Waves
Website: vrainwaves.com | Twitter: @VrainWaves | Becky Twitter: @BeckyEPeters | Ben Twitter: @mrkalb
Links & Show Notes
- Constitutional Convention Story (01:32)
- Doris Kearns Goodwin (Website)
- Leadership in Turbulent Times
Rivers and Revolutions (3:51) - How Doris & Michael got started in education (04:01)
- The impact of Concord on their lives (05:46)
- Layers of history
- Richard Goodwin (08:22)
- NPR story on Richard after his death
- Doris’ many books (09:48)
- Remembering America: A Voice from the Sixties (10:38)
- “It’s not a question of capacity, it’s a question of will.”
- Social mobility, rising to our potential
- Involvement in politics for our youth (13:17)
- Help students create change on a local level first
- Rivers & Revolutions (16:14)
- Interdisciplinary approaches to education - holistic way of looking at the world
- Concord Carlisle High School
Rivers, Revolutions, Air, Fire, & Love - A Plea for Captain John Brown by Henry David Thoreau
- The Power of Storytelling (22:12)
- Forbes article on Lincoln & Storytelling, based on Doris Kearns Goodwin’s work
- Squaw Sachem
- Education is about building community
- Investigation of Love
- Empathy (27:07)
- Through public life you experience other people’s worlds
- Seeing people as ‘other’ is a threat to our future
- Diverse classrooms v. Tracking
- Open exploration of that diversity in that classroom
- Soliciting feedback live from students in the classroom - how can we support each other
- “If you think you have more to contribute than someone else, you don’t, and if you think you have less to contribute than someone else, you don’t.” Everyone has something to add.
- Team of Rivals (33:17)
- NPR story with Doris talking about Team of Rivals
- Lincoln put 3 of his biggest rivals on his cabinet
- Internal confidence that he could learn from those people around him who all thought they could do a better job than he could
- Vulnerability & confidence
- It’s not about giving up control, it’s about sharing it. This is not work we can or should do in isolation.
- Leadership in Turbulent Times (36:41)
- Story about LBJ and Doris Kearns Goodwin working for him
- White House Fellow program
- Lyndon B. Johnson’s Presidency
- Building Learning Communities through the Arts (39:42)
- Midnight Ride of Paul Revere
- Concord River Institute
- Resilience / Failure (44:18)
- Role of Public Education in our society (47:10)
- History can give us perspective and build empathy
- Making connections
- Takeaways (51:48)