Voxology

In a time of cultural divides and political tension, what is the church's role in bringing healing and truth to a fractured society? This episode dives into the complex intersection of faith, politics, and justice, exploring how Christianity can navigate today's challenges with humility, love, and a commitment to Jesus' teachings. The hosts reflect on the prophetic responsibility of naming reality, addressing idolatrous uses of faith in politics, and embracing cruciformity—a call to sacrificial living that resists cultural compromises. Drawing insights from Pastor Ara's compelling story and his courageous leadership amidst injustice, the discussion delves into the urgent need for the church to stand against systems of oppression while maintaining a posture of love and nonviolent resistance. From the misuse of scripture in political narratives to the dangers of intertwining faith with partisan ideologies, this conversation challenges Christians to reclaim the radical, inclusive power of the gospel. Join this thought-provoking dialogue as the hosts grapple with the church's responsibility to embody justice, resist cultural corruption, and remain a kingdom-focused community. We encourage you to share your thoughts and engage in this essential discussion on faith, theology, and navigating cultural issues. Together, we can pursue a deeper understanding of what it means to follow Jesus in these divided times. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:15 - Separating from Ara 02:06 - Naming Reality 05:55 - Blasphemy Round-Up 16:14 - Introduction to Noncompliance 18:57 - What Does Noncompliance Look Like 23:18 - Emotional Exercise Techniques 24:50 - Brudes Explained 25:40 - Support the Podcast 26:10 - Connect with Us As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Pastor Ara Tarosian joins Mike and Tim to share his incredible journey from persecution in Iran to building a vibrant church community in Los Angeles. He went viral a few weeks ago for a visdeo he posted of members of his congregation being abducted by ICE (See our instagram this week for the video). From surviving the Iranian Revolution to smuggling Bibles and leading a massive underground church, Pastor Ara's story is both heart-wrenching and inspiring. In this thought-provoking discussion, he recounts the challenges faced by Iranian Christians, the cultural and political hurdles of immigration, and how faith can endure under immense pressure. This episode explores themes of cruciformity, faith and politics, the role of the church in society, and navigating cultural challenges in a deeply divided world. Pastor Ara's experiences shed light on the global realities of persecution, the resilience of faith in Jesus, and the call for the church to embody justice, mercy, and compassion in the face of injustice. Join the conversation as we examine how the teachings of Jesus intersect with real-world struggles and what it means to stand in solidarity with persecuted communities. Key Topics: Pastor Ara's background and journey to the U.S. The realities of seeking asylum and the legal hurdles involved The role of faith and community in navigating these challenges A call for compassion and reform in immigration policies Guest: Pastor Ara Tarosian, Cornerstone West LA Call to Action: Listen, reflect, and share this episode to raise awareness about the human stories behind immigration and asylum. Hashtags: #Immigration #Asylum #Faith #HumanRights CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Seth Introduces the Episode 01:29 - Ara's Early Life in Iran 12:38 - Ara's Arrest in Turkey 21:34 - Becoming a Pastor 23:50 - Starting Cornerstone West LA 32:44 - The Story of the ICE Raid at the Church 46:20 - Emotional Toll of the ICE Raid 49:13 - Impact on Ara's Wife and Mother 50:39 - Effects on Ara's Second Family 51:34 - Community Impact of the ICE Raid 53:49 - How People Can Help 59:40 - Community Action and Support 1:04:08 - Closing Thoughts 1:06:08 - Support the Podcast 1:06:53 - Outro As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

What does punk rock have to do with the heart of the Gospel? In this episode, the Voxology team, joined by the Dr. Timothy Gombis, dives deep into the unexpected intersections of radical community, inclusivity, and the teachings of Jesus. From punk rock's raw authenticity to the profound ministry of disability-focused communities that Mike recently experienced at the "Hope Heals" camp. The conversation explores how cruciformity—the self-giving love of Jesus—emerges in unlikely places. Along the way, they unpack the role of the church in society, faith and politics, and navigating cultural challenges with humility and curiosity. By reflecting on the ways marginalized voices reveal the Gospel's power, the team challenges traditional notions of faith and invites listeners to reimagine how justice, community, and theology come alive in everyday life. Whether discussing mutual ministry, the prophetic edge of punk culture, or stories of transformative love, this episode is a powerful reminder that the Gospel is both disruptive and healing. We encourage and would love for you to join this conversation. Share your thoughts on how faith intersects with culture and community on Facebook and Instagram, or email us your questions as we pursue deeper understanding together. Let's journey forward in learning, dialogue, and the radical love of Jesus. Hope Heals CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Introducing Dr. Timothy Gombis 01:57 - Tim Stafford's Punk Band 05:58 - Catching Up with Dr. Timothy Gombis 11:39 - What's New in Theology 16:00 - Hope Heals Camp Overview 25:30 - White Evangelicalism Culture 27:43 - Mutuality in Ministry 30:16 - Lessons from Prisons and Bars 31:37 - Theology of Disability Insights 32:40 - Near Life Experience Reflections 35:00 - Understanding Second Naivete 41:32 - Tim Gombis Discussion 47:55 - Recounting God's Actions 51:30 - Insights on Theology 54:14 - Evangelicalism as a Marketing Strategy 58:45 - Exploring Evangelical Theology 01:01:09 - Historical Figures in Theology 01:02:50 - Preview of Next Episode 01:04:10 - Support the Podcast As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Is Romans 13 being misused to justify political or social agendas? In this intellectually rich yet accessible discussion, the hosts tackle the challenges of interpreting Romans 13 in the context of faith, politics, and justice. Exploring the tension between government authority and the church's mission to love one's neighbor above all, they delve into nuanced themes like "cruciformity," cultural challenges, and the role of the church in society. Through a thoughtful lens, the episode contrasts Paul's teachings on governance with Jesus' profound declaration to "give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." What does this mean for Christians navigating today's cultural issues? From historical insights to modern implications, this conversation offers clarity on how faith intersects with civic life while challenging misuse of scripture to justify injustice. Join the dialogue as the hosts emphasize humility, curiosity, and critical thinking in a pursuit to follow Jesus' teachings. How should the church respond to injustice? What does it mean to embody love and justice in a world of political tension? We encourage discussion and welcome your thoughts—engage with us on Facebook, Instagram, or send in your questions as we continue this journey together. Let's explore what it means to live out faith authentically in today's world. World Relief Conversation: VIEW CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 04:32 - The Now and Not Yet 07:16 - Understanding Romans 13 11:02 - ICE Deporting Christians 18:53 - Wrapping up Romans 13 22:49 - The Emperor is Not God 26:35 - Exile and Its Implications 28:30 - Tax Revolt Discussion 30:58 - Misapplication of Romans 13 32:15 - What We Owe the Government 35:13 - Context of Luke 20 38:36 - The Trap Set for Jesus 43:09 - Jesus's Response Explained 47:50 - The Best Way to Scare a Tory 54:54 - Matt Soerens Emails Mike 57:27 - Email from Matt 1:00:50 - Shema and Its Significance As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

What does "Joyful Non-Compliance" look like in today's world? In this thought-provoking episode, the hosts explore how faith intersects with politics, justice, and cultural challenges. Diving into Romans 12 and 13, they discuss the biblical posture of joyful, peaceful non-compliance, emphasizing the church's role in society as a force of love, justice, and truth. From the complexities of navigating immigration issues to the tension between idolatry and injustice in government, this conversation unpacks what it means to live out cruciformity—a life shaped by the cross—in a chaotic world. Key insights include the distinction between peacekeeping and peacemaking, the theological implications of governance, and how Christians can embody a faithful, socially engaged presence amidst cultural turmoil. With practical examples and a deep dive into the text, the hosts challenge listeners to embrace a countercultural, Jesus-centered response to injustice and idolatry. Join the discussion and share your thoughts! How can we, as individuals and communities, live out this call to justice and non-compliance with humility and hope? Feel free to email questions or engage with us on Facebook and Instagram—we encourage and value your perspectives as we pursue this journey together. Let's continue the conversation about faith, justice, and the transformative power of the gospel. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates 02:58 Exploring Joy and Grief 05:57 Understanding Joyful Noncompliance 08:59 The Role of Theology in Current Events 11:54 Recent Global Events and Their Implications 14:51 Theological Perspectives on Israel and Foreign Policy 18:00 Immigration Policies and Their Impact 20:49 Non-Compliance and Moral Responsibility 23:39 Romans 13 and Its Application 31:47 The Application of Romans 13 39:27 The Role of Government in Society 46:08 The Relationship Between Romans 12 and 13 56:16 Peacemaking in a Divided World As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How should Christians approach immigration, justice, and faith in today's cultural climate? In this episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike and Tim dive into "Joyful, Peaceful, and Gracious Noncompliance," exploring what scripture teaches about welcoming the stranger, showing compassion, and advocating for justice. Drawing on the work of experts like Matthew Soerens and their own reflections, they tackle the complex intersections of cruciformity, faith and politics, and the role of the church in society. Through real-life stories, scripture analysis, and discussions on cultural challenges, they address the dehumanizing language often used in immigration debates, the tension between legality and justice, and the church's responsibility to embody the teachings of Jesus. What does it mean to love our neighbor, especially when they are vulnerable? How can the church navigate these issues with humility, courage, and hope? Engage with thoughtful insights, critical questions, and a call to action to advocate for justice in peaceful, gracious ways. Feel free to email your questions, share your perspectives on social media, and join the conversation as we pursue faithfulness to Jesus in a complex world. Together, let's reflect on how Christianity can shape a more just and compassionate society. #news #newstoday #greencard #biblestudy #faithandjustice Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Context of Immigration Discussion 02:50 Personal Stories and Anecdotes on Immigration 06:06 The Role of the Church in Immigration Issues 09:05 Current Administration's Immigration Policies 11:58 Language and Rhetoric in Immigration Discourse 14:51 Understanding Different Types of Immigrants 17:46 Legal Status and Its Implications 21:01 Biblical Perspectives on Immigration 23:54 Theological Arguments for Compassionate Immigration Policies 27:12 Conclusion and Call to Action 51:12 The Call to Welcome Strangers 52:34 God's Heart for the Vulnerable 53:30 The Church as Foreigners and Exiles 58:12 Christian Identity and Immigration 01:01:51 Citizenship in the Kingdom of God 01:08:34 The Role of Government and Justice 01:15:21 Advocacy and Non-Compliance 01:21:47 The Church's Responsibility in Advocacy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothyETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

In this episode, Tim and Mike continue the conversation about the complexities of biblical interpretation, exploring how various contexts—textual, cultural, and personal—shape our understanding of scripture. What does "biblical" really mean, and why does it matter in today's world? Mike and Tim explore the "world of the text," the cultural and historical contexts "behind the text," and the modern assumptions we bring "in front of the text." With humor, humility, and intellectual depth, they examine how varying social locations, traditions, and cultural frameworks shape our understanding of scripture, and how the Spirit of God works through it all. From discussing the challenges of "cruciformity" to navigating cultural issues like justice, faith, and the role of the church in society, this episode invites listeners to wrestle with the tension between timeless truths and modern interpretations. Drawing on examples like the parable of the prodigal son and the story of Ruth, they highlight the importance of curiosity, critical thinking, and engaging diverse perspectives to faithfully live out the teachings of Jesus. How do we discern faithful readings of scripture in a world filled with self-defined "biblical" interpretations? Tune in to explore this nuanced conversation, and share your thoughts as we seek to grow together. We encourage you to join the discussion on Facebook and Instagram or send in your questions—your voice matters in this journey of faith and learning! #bible #contextisking #biblestudy #topversestakenoutofcontext #scriptureoutofcontext #bible #privateinterpretation #principlesofinterpretation #exegesis #literalinterpretation Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Context Setting 03:03 Exploring Biblical Interpretations 05:45 Understanding the Text: World of the Text 09:04 Contextual Influences: World Behind the Text 11:53 Cultural Dynamics and Historical Context 15:11 Personal Perspectives: World in Front of the Text 18:04 The Role of the Spirit in Interpretation 21:04 The Journey of Understanding Scripture 23:56 Conclusion and Reflection 28:36 Cultural Perspectives on Hunger 30:02 The Layers of Parables 32:11 Human and Divine Texts 33:19 Relating to Biblical Characters 35:40 Understanding Minority Voices in Scripture 36:43 The Spirit and the Text 39:29 Authority and Interpretation 42:12 The Nature of Authority in Scripture 48:16 Disagreeing Theologically As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Is the label "biblical" helping or hurting how we approach faith, church, and cultural challenges? In this thought-provoking episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike and Tim explore the pitfalls of using "biblical" as a rigid brand, how it impacts theology, and its effects on navigating issues like justice, community, and interpretation of Scripture. They discuss the importance of reading the Bible in community, embracing humility, and fostering critical thinking to form faithful and wise communities. Drawing on listener feedback, they tackle how Scripture has been used both to liberate and to harm and ask what it means to embody a cruciform way of living. The conversation dives into the role of the church in society, the balance between individual and communal faith practices, and the dangers of reducing the Bible to oversimplified categories. With humor, deep insight, and a commitment to justice and Jesus' teachings, this episode invites you to rethink how we engage with Scripture and one another. #bible #selfimprovement #foundationforintentionalcommunity #biblestudy #importanceofchristiancommunity #bible #solascriptura #livingbythebook #eisegesisvs.exegesis #biblestudy Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Week Recap 02:51 Modeling for a Glamping Resort 06:05 Podcast Updates and Listener Feedback 09:07 Discussion on Bible Accessibility and Interpretation 11:57 The Role of Community in Bible Reading 18:09 Intent Behind Bible Study 21:05 Unity and Diversity in the Bible 26:00 The Purpose of the Bible in Community 30:09 Critique of Biblical Branding 34:02 Closing Thoughts on Wisdom and Learning 35:25 The Limitations of Biblical Prepackaging 38:51 The Harm of Misusing Biblical Concepts 44:52 Understanding the Bible as a Cross-Cultural Experience 51:59 The Three Elements of Biblical Interpretation 59:52 The Importance of Context in Biblical Texts 01:06:01 The Dark History of Biblical Misinterpretation 01:09:55 Navigating Modern Misinformation and Biblical Understanding As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Is "biblical" always what it seems? In this thought-provoking episode, the hosts unpack why the word "biblical" might not mean what you think and explore its misuse across faith, politics, and cultural issues. From examining how "biblical" has become a branding tool to discussing its role in sociological stress tests and power dynamics, this conversation challenges us to rethink how we approach scripture and the teachings of Jesus. The discussion delves into the complexity of interpreting the Bible, emphasizing the need to consider the text itself, the cultural context behind the text, and our own assumptions in front of the text. With deep humility and intellectual curiosity, the hosts highlight how faithful readings of scripture require dialogue, critical thinking, and a willingness to hold tension between differing perspectives. How does the Bible shape the church's role in society? What does it mean to navigate cultural challenges with cruciformity and justice in mind? Join the conversation as these questions and more are explored with nuance and authenticity. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:58 Exploring the Concept of 'Biblical' 05:55 The Sociological and Branding Aspects of 'Biblical' 08:49 The Ambiguity of 'Biblical' in Conversations 11:56 The Power Dynamics of 'Biblical' Language 15:04 The Clear Teaching of the Bible: A Nuanced Approach 17:55 Understanding Context: Behind and In Front of the Text 31:33 The Complexity of Biblical Teachings 36:28 Navigating Interpretations and Understanding 40:04 The Role of Community in Biblical Interpretation 49:07 The Nature of Communication and Misunderstanding 56:18 Unity in Biblical Diversity As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Discernment: Cruciformity is Active, Not Passive. On this episode of the Voxology podcast, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford focus on discernment in faith, the essence of Christian identity, and the importance of critiquing ideologies rather than individuals. They emphasize the need for community engagement and humanizing conversations across divides, particularly in the context of immigration and societal issues. Further, Tim and Mike explore the complexities of homelessness, systemic issues, and the role of faith in addressing societal challenges. They discuss the importance of understanding the root causes of homelessness, the church's responsibility in promoting human flourishing, and the significance of inclusivity at Jesus' table. The dialogue also delves into the church's political involvement, the concept of cruciformity, and the challenges of navigating emotional overload while advocating for justice. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for a Christ-like approach to engagement in the world. "Lean In" with Matthew Soerens and Mike Erre: RSVP Unless it sounds/acts like Jesus, it's not Christian Who is the real enemy? The Table is open to all, but prioritize who Jesus prioritizes First the Church Then the World Nothing is so urgent to get off your cross for Chapters 00:00 - Celebrating a Decade of Voxology Podcast 02:56 - The Power of Live Music Experiences 05:57 - Revamping the Voxology Podcast 09:02 - Exploring Discernment in Faith 12:02 - Understanding Christian Identity 14:57 - Identifying the Real Enemy 18:06 - Critiquing Ideologies vs. Individuals 21:01 - The Importance of Community Engagement 23:58 - Humanizing Conversations Across Divides 29:59 - Understanding Homelessness and Systemic Issues 31:45 - Faithfulness and the Role of the Church 35:43 - The Table of Jesus: Inclusion and Prioritization 39:12 - Political Involvement and the Church's Role 42:34 - Cruciformity: Staying on the Cross 49:10 - Navigating Emotional Overload and Advocacy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

What does leadership shaped by the cross really look like in today's church—and how far have we drifted from it? Mike and Tim continue the Cruciformity Series with a raw, revealing, and intensely personal reflection on their own experiences with American evangelical leadership culture. From megachurch strategy to influence-based platforms, they unpack how conventional models of "biblical leadership" often mirror corporate America more than Christ. This episode challenges deeply ingrained assumptions about success, authority, platform, and power, and proposes a radically different path: cruciform leadership, rooted in humility, weakness, and the relentless pursuit of others' flourishing. Mike shares his personal struggle of unlearning old paradigms and embracing a leadership ethos shaped by Jesus' downward trajectory from divinity to servanthood. It's a must-listen for pastors, churchgoers, and anyone navigating the tension between faithfulness and influence. Key Takeaways: • What is Cruciform Leadership? – How the biblical model of leadership centers on self-giving love and the surrender of privilege. • The Seduction of Success Metrics – Why growth, platform, and "effectiveness" are poor substitutes for faithfulness and Christlikeness. • From CEO to Servant – Reframing pastoral roles through surrender, not strategy. • Personal Confession and Reflection – Mike shares how his perspective changed after decades in the evangelical megachurch system. • Leadership Beyond the Church – Exploring how cruciformity applies in workplaces, families, and personal relationships. Quotes to Remember: • "Cruciform leadership isn't about getting things done—it's about delivering God's love and grace into people's lives, daily." • "You can run a church, a marriage, or a business using old creation power. But the gospel calls you to something new." Resources Mentioned: • Tim Gombis – The Drama of Ephesians • Dallas Willard – Quotes on humility & leadership • Caitlin Schess interview – On platform vs. message • Book of Philippians 2 – The downward trajectory of Jesus • Mark Gombis's Commentary on Mark Whether you've been hurt by church leadership, led within it, or simply want to grow as a follower of Jesus, this episode invites you to a deeper and more transformative way of thinking about influence, success, and faith. Keep engaging with us by subscribing, leaving a review, or connecting on social media. We'd love to hear your stories as we pursue the way of Jesus together. — Have questions or thoughts about the episode? Email us at [email protected]. Join the ongoing conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Visit the Voxology Website for more content, merch, and resources. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the podcast by becoming a patron at Patreon Follow us on Instagram @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @gonetimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the church responds when Jesus is co-opted by political power, and what it means to faithfully resist using cruciform love. In this latest installment of the Exile Series, Mike and Tim explore recent headlines where government leaders invoke Christianity as a means to assert national identity and justify coercive policies. Rather than offering partisan critique, they unpack the deeper spiritual crisis at work—when the name of Jesus is taken in vain to baptize authoritarianism and cultural dominance. Rooted in Walter Brueggemann's prophetic framework of "reality, grief, and hope," Mike and Tim lead a passionate discussion around resisting empire the way Jesus did—through embodied love, not religious spectacle. They revisit core biblical ideas of the church living as exiles and dive deeply into the last days of Jesus' life—highlighting not just the fact that Jesus died on the cross, but how he lived and loved on it. From forgiveness to hospitality to non-retaliation, Jesus models a radical way of confronting evil with redemptive good. Key Takeaways: • Resisting Political Appropriation of Christianity – How invoking Jesus to justify state power is a modern form of taking the Lord's name in vain. • Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Framework – "Reality, grief, and hope" as a lens to navigate our cultural moment and resist false ideologies. • Cruciformity as Active Resistance – Jesus didn't just die for us—he loved, forgave, and restored while dying. This nonviolent, redemptive love becomes the pattern for Christian resistance. • Reordering Our Spheres – Why the private, social, and public spheres must be aligned in love and integrity, and why public outrage alone isn't the answer. • The Church as a Community of Justice – A call to form communities that shelter the vulnerable, confront injustice, and embody the Sermon on the Mount in both small and subversive ways. Guest Highlights: No external guests—but powerful contributions from voices like Walter Brueggemann, Tim Gombis, and public figures such as Rev. William Barber and Shane Claiborne are discussed in the context of prophetic Christian witness. Resources Mentioned: • Reality, Grief, and Hope by Walter Brueggemann • Ephesians (particularly chapters 2-4) – Link • Voxology's Exile Series Archive – voxologypodcast.com • Book: Resident Aliens by Hauerwas & Willimon • Book: The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider Feeling overwhelmed by the cultural co-opting of Christianity? You're not alone. Join us as we discern the way of Jesus, especially when it's unpopular. Don't forget to subscribe, share this episode, and leave us a review. Let's keep walking this road of faith, justice, and hopeful resistance—together. Email us anytime with questions or feedback at [email protected]. We're also on YouTube at VOXOLOGY TV Catch live chats and more on Instagram @voxologypodcast and Facebook. Like what we're creating? Support the show on Patreon Grab some merch on our Etsy Store Listen to our curated soundtracks at Voxology Radio Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram / Twitter : @GoneTimothy Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How reclaiming a teachable spirit can radically transform our faith, our churches, and our relationships with those we often see as "the other." Mike and Tim welcome theologian, pastor, and author A.J. Swoboda to unpack his latest book, The Teachable Spirit: The Virtue of Learning from Strangers, Enemies, and Absolutely Anyone, as well as a powerful call for intellectual humility and curiosity within Christian community. Together, they explore why Christians should be the most curious people in the world—yet are often seen as some of the least teachable—and how engaging others (even those we vehemently disagree with) can be a deeply Christlike act of discipleship and hospitality. Key Takeaways: • The Cost of Curiosity – Why a teachable spirit is more important than ever in a polarized culture, and how refusing to learn keeps Christians stuck in cycles of fear and pride. • Learning from Enemies – How sitting at the feet of someone you disagree with can strengthen faith, not threaten it—and why it's an essential posture for being salt and light in the world. • Intellectual Humility as a Spiritual Discipline – Understanding that learning doesn't always mean agreeing, and that repentance and growth require letting go of certainty. • Babylon vs. Jerusalem – Applying Daniel's exilic posture in a modern world where Christians often prioritize cultural dominance over Christlike witness. • Shame and the Fear of Not Knowing – A touching and honest reflection from A.J. on how vulnerability around what we don't know (like his story about a screwdriver) can lead to deeper discipleship and spiritual maturity. Guest Highlights: A.J. Swoboda – Professor, pastor, and co-host of the Slow Theology podcast, A.J. brings humor, vulnerability, and a prophetic lens to what it means to be a learner in today's world. His new book, The Teachable Spirit, challenges Christians to pursue curiosity as a virtue and to rediscover the joy of growing, even when it's uncomfortable. Resources Mentioned: • A.J. Swoboda – The Teachable Spirit: The Virtue of Learning from Strangers, Enemies, and Absolutely Anyone • Slow Theology podcast (with Nijay Gupta) – Listen here • Rodney Stark – Writings on the sociology of early Christianity • Daniel 9 – Reflections on exile and living faithfully in Babylon • Upcoming Book Club – The Upside-Down Kingdom by Donald Kraybill (starts June 5) Let's keep asking better questions and cultivating hearts that are open to correction, growth, and true wisdom. Subscribe, share, and leave us a review—your support helps us build a curious and Christ-rooted community. As always, we welcome thoughtful dialogue and questions as we journey together. Email us at [email protected], and keep the conversation going on Facebook and Instagram. Watch on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Grab our gear at the VOXOLOGY Merch Store Learn more at voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support us on Patreon Follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram Follow Mike on X/Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Unpacking the deep narrative threads that make Jesus's death not just inevitable, but essential to our human story, Mike and Tim dive into the costs of sin, how death is a consequence—not simply a punishment—and what Jesus's crucifixion really reveals about God's nature. This Good Friday reflection brings clarity to questions we've inherited or sidestepped: Why did Jesus have to die? Why that way? And what's the deeper biblical thread connecting Eden, the tabernacle, and the cross? Follow this continuing journey through the Cruciformity Series as we reframe our view of atonement theology through the lens of relational, embodied love rather than transactional debt. This episode traces the arc from Genesis to Jesus, highlighting scripture's subversive beauty and its world-building wisdom that invites us to reimagine what it means to live—and die—in union with Christ. Key Takeaways: • Death as Consequence, Not Retribution – Sin introduces decay, loss, and exile from creation's eternal purpose. Jesus, in true solidarity, embraces that outcome fully. • The Bible's Moral Logic of Life and Death – From Eden through the temple system and culminating in Jesus, we're always being invited to choose life. • Crucifixion and the Unmasking of Empire – Jesus's nonviolent death at the hands of imperial power exposes the futility of violence and reveals the upside-down power of God's kingdom. • Sacrificial Systems and Human Imagination – Why animal sacrifice wasn't divine bloodlust, but a contextual, symbolic reminder of the corruption and gravity of sin. • Jesus Enters the Realm of Death to Open Eden – The torn temple curtain and the resurrection signify access to the tree of life has been restored—no longer guarded, but freely given. Resources Mentioned: • Genesis 1–3 – The foundational story of life, choice, and consequence. • 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 – Paul's "first importance" gospel creed, spotlighting Jesus's death and resurrection. • Leviticus 17 – "Life is in the blood"—understanding why sacrifices pointed to something deeper. • Daniel 12 – A rare Old Testament glimpse of resurrection hope. • Philippians 2 (Kenosis Hymn) – Cruciformity and Jesus's descent through obedience and suffering. • Rich Villodas (Twitter Reflection) – A poetic thread connecting Eden and the cross: Rich's post Dive further: • Catch up on past episodes in the Cruciformity Series for more foundational context. • Check out our past deep dives on Genesis and sacrificial systems in the "Being Human" series. Join the conversation and rediscover why Jesus's death was not a cosmic transaction but the climactic expression of God's love. Don't forget to subscribe, write us a review, and share the Voxology Podcast with someone who's asking deep questions about faith and identity. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue these big ideas together. Email your thoughts to [email protected], and engage with us on Facebook and Instagram. Watch this episode and more on VOXOLOGY TV. Grab some faith-fueled merch from our ETSY store Discover more about the podcast at VoxologyPodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology community on Patreon Explore the Voxology Spotify Music Channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast + Facebook: Voxology Podcast Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Social: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How does understanding the difference between what the Bible describes and what it prescribes shape the way we live, lead, and love today? Mike Erre and Tim Stafford kick off their new Christianity 101 Series with an in-depth—and often hilarious—conversation that lays the groundwork for how the Voxology community approaches Scripture, biblical authority, and spiritual formation. Responding to an Instagram post that claims "genocide, slavery, and sexual assault are all biblical," Mike and Tim dismantle modern misuses of the word "biblical," explore how cruciformity shapes biblical interpretation, and offer a counter-cultural vision for how the church can embody a radically different way of living. From Roman status systems to communion cups and Sunday merch, it's all on the table in this deep dive into discipleship, Scripture, and what it means to follow Jesus today. Key Takeaways: • Prescriptive vs Descriptive Bible Reading – Why understanding the difference is crucial to avoid misapplying Scripture and perpetuating harm. • What "Biblical" Really Means – Challenging the misuse of "biblical manhood," "biblical marriage," and other theological buzzwords. • Cruciformity Explained – How Philippians 2 offers a vision for a cross-shaped (cruciform) life modeled after Jesus that subverts power, pursues justice, and levels privilege. • Christianity 101 Practices – Exploring baptism, communion, and solidarity with the poor as essential, identity-shaping communal practices of the early church. • How to Interpret Scripture – Considering fruitfulness, alignment with the person of Jesus, and whether an interpretation humbles the high and lifts up the low. Resources Mentioned: • Philippians 2 – The Christ Hymn and model for cruciform living • Book: Upside-Down Kingdom by Donald Kraybill – A deep dive into a counter-cultural Christianity rooted in justice and humility • Book: Fight by Preston Sprinkle – Theology of nonviolence • Previous Voxology Series on "How to Read the Bible" – VoxologyPodcast.com • Get your new Vox Merch (now with more humility) – Voxology Etsy Store Join the conversation, ask big questions, and help us shape the upcoming "Christianity 101" series—email [email protected] or connect with us on social. Subscribe, leave a review, and be part of a movement that reimagines the way of Jesus for today's world. Watch us on VOXOLOGY TV. Support this community on Patreon or via Tithe.ly. Help fund more series like this and keep the podcast ad-free. Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and Facebook. You can also follow Mike on Twitter at twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How a cruciform vision of faith challenges cultural Christianity obsessed with dominance, political power, and exclusion. Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and special guest Dr. Timothy Gombis kick off a new Cruciformity Series by wrestling with the relational and theological tensions between two distinctly different expressions of Christianity. They dive into Gombis' definition of a cruciform (cross-shaped) life, the way Paul consistently connects theology to social justice, and what faithful biblical interpretation actually looks like in polarized times. This episode brings incisive insight and honest reflection into how Christians should engage others who claim Christ while promoting ideologies antithetical to his way. How do we differentiate between authentic discipleship and a power-driven counterfeit? When is it time to lovingly confront, and when is it time to focus on being a joyful presence even amid disagreement? Key Takeaways: • Understanding Cruciformity – Drawing from Philippians 2, Dr. Gombis defines cruciformity as using privilege, position, and power to sacrificially serve others, modeling the path of Jesus. • Scripture and Social Justice – Why the Bible inherently speaks into issues of race, class, gender, and justice, and how ignoring these themes distorts the gospel. • Faithful Interpretation vs. Literalism – A breakdown of how Paul's creative use of the Old Testament—and early Christian interpretation—calls us to a living, theological engagement with Scripture rooted in love and justice. • Interacting with Other Christians – Strategies for responding to uncruciform expressions of Christianity with grace, humility, and clear relational boundaries. • Why Joyful Presence Matters – Finding the balance between calling out harmful theology and being a source of light, joy, and kindness without compromising the gospel. Guest Highlight: Dr. Timothy Gombis – New Testament scholar, professor, and host of the Faith Improvised podcast. With a Ph.D. from St. Andrews and decades of scholarly work, Gombis specializes in Pauline theology, cruciformity, and interpreting the Bible through a justice-centered lens. He brings deep nuance and practical wisdom to contemporary issues of faith and community. Resources Mentioned: • Faith Improvised Podcast by Tim Gombis – Link • Power and Weakness by Timothy Gombis – Link • Drama of Ephesians by Timothy Gombis – Link • Michael Gorman – 'Reading Revelation Responsibly' and teachings on cruciformity – Link Let's keep reimagining and embodying a Jesus-looking faith. Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with someone questioning the difference between cultural Christianity and the invitation to cruciform living. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected] and engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Unpacking the intersection of economics, race, and faith, Mike and Tim sit down with historian and theologian Dr. Malcolm Foley to explore the dangerous roots of racism in greed and how Christian communities can resist the power of money—biblically referred to as "Mammon." With incisive insight, emotional clarity, and a sense of urgency, Malcolm walks us through the key thesis of his new book, "The Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money is the Root of Racism and How the Church Can Create a New Way Forward." This challenging yet hopeful episode invites listeners to reimagine how the church can actively defang race as a category of oppression by confronting institutional greed, building communities of economic justice, and aligning more deeply with the Kingdom vision of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Greed as the Engine of Racism – Race didn't create injustice; it was manufactured to justify domination and economic exploitation. • Defanging Race – Why we must neither ignore nor celebrate race, but neutralize its power through kingdom-shaped communities of justice and equity. • Economic Justice as Gospel Witness – How the early church's radical sharing (Acts 2 & 4) unveils God's economic blueprint for the body of Christ. • Solidarity over Paternalism – Why generosity must evolve into shared life, mutual care, and practical redistribution of resources. • Institutional Implications – What churches (and podcast listeners!) can begin doing now to embody anti-greed practices and become agents of equity and reconciliation. Guest Highlights: Dr. Malcolm Foley – Author of "The Anti-Greed Gospel," Baylor University's Special Advisor to the President for Equity and Campus Engagement, and pastor of Mosaic Waco. Malcolm brings real theological depth, social awareness, and pastoral vision to his call for dismantling the idolatry of Mammon encountered both in society and within the institutional church. Resources Mentioned: • "The Anti-Greed Gospel" by Dr. Malcolm Foley – Brazos Press • "God's Reign and the End of Empires" by Antonio Gonzalez • "Money and Possessions" by Walter Brueggemann • Revelation 3:14–22 – Jesus's message to the lukewarm church in Laodicea • Acts 2:42–47, 4:32–35 – The economic witness of the early church • Matthew 6:24 – "You cannot serve both God and Mammon" Be part of the anti-greed conversation and join us in rethinking how the church can resist Mammon and embrace its calling as a community of justice and love. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and follow us on social media for more boundary-breaking theological conversations and future episodes. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Celebrating 500 episodes and nearly 10 years of bold conversations, Mike and Tim pause to reflect on the Voxology journey and address a growing burden: the deepening divide between competing versions of Christianity in American culture. This milestone episode explores how one branch of Christianity has co-opted the language of Jesus to justify nationalism, violence, and power, while another remains rooted in the cruciform way of Jesus—marked by humility, sacrifice, and enemy-love. Mike and Tim unpack why this distinction matters now more than ever, emphasizing the urgent need to return to the center—Christ himself—and discern truth from distortion. Through heartfelt lament, cultural critique, and biblical exploration, this conversation brings clarity, challenge, and hope for a faith community seeking to resist cultural idolatry and embody the real Jesus in these confusing times. Key Takeaways: • Two Competing Christianities – Recognizing that not every representation of "Christian" is congruent with the life and teachings of Jesus. • The Way of the Cross vs. the Way of Power – Understanding that the cruciform path of Jesus stands in direct opposition to nationalism, triumphalism, and coercion. • Discerning the Center – How a return to the teachings of Jesus—particularly the Sermon on the Mount—can help us evaluate what is truly Christian in today's landscape. • Calling Out Distortion Without Condemnation – Learning to critique false gospels and ideologies without falling into gatekeeping or contempt. • What It Means to Be the Church Now – A renewed call for the church to serve as a prophetic, diverse, justice-oriented community amidst cultural confusion. Resources Mentioned: • Non-ference Gathering (July 31–August 2 in Nashville) – Email [email protected] with subject line "Nonference" for info. • Daniel 7 and Mark 8-10 – Crucial texts exploring Jesus's clashes with power and his redefining of greatness and Messiahship. • The Sermon on the Mount – Matthew 5–7; referenced as the central teaching text for Christian formation. • Dallas Willard – "I trust Jesus with a whip, but I don't trust myself," a quote reflecting humility in social critique. • Facebook Private Group – Email to request an invite to our discussion space. • Philippians 2 – Preview of next episode's theme on cruciformity. Guest Highlights: No outside guests this episode, but deep gratitude expressed for past contributors, supporters, and community members—including Andy Lara, Kevin Ashleman, Brenda, Bonnie, and countless others who have shaped Voxology through the years. 500 episodes in, the road's been long, vulnerable, transformative, and often messy. But the mission remains: to question boldly, love recklessly, and follow Jesus faithfully—even when it's unpopular or misunderstood. Join us on the journey—and if you're still listening after 70+ minutes, you're a real one. Subscribe, share your thoughts, join the private Facebook group, and follow us @voxologypodcast for continued conversations. As always, we would love your questions, doubts, and feedback. Email us at [email protected]. Let's keep wrestling together. Watch our episodes on VOXOLOGY TV Visit the Voxology Website Support us on Patreon Find merch on Etsy Listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts Music by Timothy John Stafford | Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Follow Mike: @mikeerre As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How do we truly love others, and what does it mean to love God with our whole being? In this rich and deeply engaging conversation with New Testament scholar Dr. Nijay Gupta, Mike and Tim explore the heart of Paul's theology of love, as captured in Nijay's newest book, "The Affections of Christ Jesus." Tackling questions like "Can we love someone we don't like?" and "Is empathy a sin?", they unpack the biblical roots of love, the emotional texture behind divine commands, and why reducing love to cold obedience misses the point entirely. Rooted in Deuteronomy, Philippians, and an astute understanding of emotional theory, Nijay reclaims love not as sentiment or robotic duty, but as an embodied, whole-person orientation empowered by attachment, compassion, and relationship. Whether it's God's jealous love, the fear of the Lord, or cultivating inner affections toward enemies and neighbors alike, this episode beautifully bridges emotional intelligence with biblical theology. Key Takeaways: • Love is Whole-Personed and Relational – True biblical love involves the body, mind, emotions, and will—it's not just about doing the right thing, but being reoriented toward others from the heart. • The Hebrew and Greek Understanding of Love – Love is visceral. In biblical language, emotions arise from the 'guts,' not just the heart. The Greek word "splanchnizomai" captures compassion as a deep, bodily movement. • From Cold Obedience to Cultivated Affection – Love is not sustained without empathy and proximity. Ongoing acts of love without emotional investment eventually collapse. • God's Jealousy and Fear of the Lord – God's jealousy is protective, not petty. And fearing God is less horror and more awe—like standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon or beholding a thunderstorm. • Empathy Isn't a Sin—it's Sacred – While some critique empathy as misguided, Nijay defends it as humanity's superpower and essential to resisting dehumanization and injustice. • Forming Affections through Repetition and Proximity – Nijay shares how showing up for a small group of teenage boys each week moved his heart toward genuine love for them over time. Resources Mentioned: • The Affections of Christ Jesus: Love at the Heart of Paul's Theology by Nijay Gupta • BibleProject – bibleproject.com • School of Practical Theology – Co-hosted by Nijay Gupta and AJ Swoboda on the Slow Theology podcast • Caitlin Beatty's "Celebrities for Jesus" – Insights on power, intimacy, and proximity within Christian leadership • Substack: Engaging Scripture by Nijay Gupta – nijaygupta.substack.com • New Living Translation Committee – Translating biblical texts for clarity and faithfulness Join Mike, Tim, and Nijay in reflecting on what it means to authentically tentacle your soul—yes, tentacle—around God and neighbor in ways that form you into a person of active, grounded love. Let's recapture what Paul meant by "the affections of Christ Jesus." Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review, and follow us on socials to keep these vital conversations going. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Merch Store: ETSY Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Subscribe via iTunes or Spotify Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: facebook.com/voxologypodcast Twitter/X: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Email us your thoughts and questions: [email protected] As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the biblical blueprint for justice offers a practical and powerful vision for reimagining community, equity, and generosity. In this compelling episode of the Exile Series, Mike and Tim are joined by longtime friend and justice advocate Sarah Pecan Driver to explore what it means to faithfully pursue the restoration of shalom. Drawing deeply from Scripture and her 26 years of domestic and international experience in social policy, Sarah unpacks six biblical pillars of justice—from economic resets to bias-free systems—and shows how these ancient practices still challenge and inspire modern expressions of church, business, and civic life. Key Takeaways: • Justice as the Restoration of Shalom – Why justice is far more than fighting injustice; it's about building real communities of equity, rest, and connection grounded in God's design. • The Six Pillars of Biblical Justice – Sarah unpacks justice themes from Leviticus and Deuteronomy, including Sabbath rest, economic resets (Jubilee), gleaning laws, and interest-free lending. • Old Testament Roots, New Testament Fulfillment – Connecting Jesus' teachings and the practices of the early church to the justice systems prescribed in the Hebrew Scriptures. • The Church as a Just Community – Exploring how Christians can move from charity to systemic justice through biblical practices and modern workplace equity. • DEI in the Workplace through a Biblical Lens – Tangible tips for employers and leaders to remove bias and inequity, from removing salary history requests to proactively inviting feedback. • Why Economic Equity Is Good News – A biblical case for limiting profit maximization in favor of shared well-being and neighbor love. Guest Highlights: Sarah Pecan Driver – Justice advocate, global policy consultant, and founder of JusticeDriver.com. With experience across four continents and partnerships with organizations like the Carter Center and International Justice Mission, Sarah brings incisive clarity to how Scripture calls the church not just to do justice—but to embody it. Resources Mentioned: • Justice Driver – justicedriver.com • Isaiah 58 – A pivotal passage on the kind of justice God desires • Leviticus & Deuteronomy – Core Old Testament sources for biblical justice frameworks • Book: Scandalous Witness by Lee Camp – Link • Books of Luke and Acts – Tracing Jesus' and the early church's radical economics Help us reframe what justice really looks like in the church and world. Share your peak and pit with us, reflect on your own practice of justice, and consider how your business, church, and home can reflect the kingdom of God. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on your favorite platform to stay connected and engaged. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we journey together. Email your thoughts and questions to [email protected], and connect with us on Instagram and Facebook. Watch full episodes on VOXOLOGY TV Check out our Merch Store Explore more at VoxologyPodcast.com Listen & subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support us through Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How reframing grace as a radical, social equalizer challenges cultural power systems and reshapes the church's role in a fractured world. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford continue the Exile Series by unpacking how American nationalism distorts the purpose of the church—and how the book of Ephesians offers a subversive vision of identity rooted in Christ, not country. Drawing on theologians like Lee Camp, Caitlin Schess, and John Barclay, this episode critically examines how partisan politics twist scripture and why grace flattens power hierarchies, replacing tribal superiority with true siblinghood in the body of Christ. Key Takeaways: • Grace as Equalizer – Paul's use of grace in Ephesians 2 goes beyond personal salvation; it subverts social hierarchies and removes grounds for boasting between groups (Jew/Gentile, male/female, slave/free). • The Myth of Christian Nationalism – Examining how Reagan-era rhetoric and modern political movements hijack biblical imagery (like "a city on a hill") to assign God's promises to America instead of the church. • Living Out New Humanity – The call of the gospel is to live as an alternative community—practicing justice, reconciliation, common meals, lament, and kindness to the poor—as acts of resistance against cultural divisions. • Constructive Anger and Emotional Honesty – Tim opens up about the tension between outrage, privilege, and compassion, challenging listeners to engage with righteous anger while still building bridges. • The Church as a Community of Shalom – Highlighting how diversity in race, ability, and gender should not merely be tolerated but celebrated in the church as reflections of God's multifaceted image. Guest Highlights: None formally, but the writings of Lee Camp, Dallas Willard, and John Barclay heavily influence the theological insights discussed. Resources Mentioned: • Scandalous Witness by Lee Camp – Link • Ballot and the Bible by Kaitlyn Schiess – Link • Paul and the Gift by John M. G. Barclay – Link • James 2, Ephesians 2, and Galatians 3 – Scripture on grace, justice, and the abolishment of ethnic, gender, and class barriers in the church. • Voxology Table Night – Monthly meal-based gatherings to intentionally build multiracial, multigenerational community. Join the Voxology journey as we realign our loyalties—not to empire, but to Jesus and the radical grace He extends to all. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay engaged. Have questions or reflections? Email [email protected] or join the convo on Instagram and Facebook. Watch full episodes on VOXOLOGY TV Shop the latest Voxology merch: ETSY Store Support this podcast by giving at Patreon Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Explore the Voxology world at voxologypodcast.com Listen to curated tunes on Voxology Radio on Spotify Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the early church responded to injustice offers a roadmap for communities struggling to embody Christ's vision of transformation and Shalom today. Mike and Tim dive deep into real examples from Acts, 1 Corinthians, and Galatians to reveal how the early Christians addressed systemic injustice across ethnic, economic, and cultural lines—while pointing to what it means to live out political engagement by being the church. Referencing powerful historical texts and contemporary critiques, including a provocative new book titled "The Sin of Empathy," this episode critiques legalistic, overly individualized versions of the gospel and recasts Christian political action through the lens of community justice, restorative practices, and the call to be instruments of peace. Key Takeaways: • Empathy Isn't a Sin—Apathy Might Be – Critiquing reactionary movements that label empathy sinful, while unpacking what biblical care really looks like. • Justice as an Embodied Witness – From caring for widows in Acts 6 to confronting ethnic division in Galatians 2, Mike and Tim explore how the church is called not just to advocate for justice, but to live it. • The Lord's Supper and Social Class – Why 1 Corinthians 11 isn't about personal sin but about disrupting anti-kingdom social structures entrenched in church life. • Communal Faith, Not Individual Escape – Why salvation is about restoring both our relationship with God and our neighbor—and how that shapes our public witness. • Beyond Legalism into Discernment – Wrestling with complexity, nuance, and spiritual discernment as essential tools for modern followers of Jesus. Resources Mentioned: • Book: "The Sin of Empathy" (Canon Press, not recommended but discussed) • Book of Acts Chapter 6 – Conflict resolution in serving widows • 1 Corinthians 11 – Examining justice and table fellowship • Galatians 2 – Ethnic inclusion and gospel integrity • Ephesians 2 & Genesis (referenced) – Theological foundations for communal justice • Sky Jethani & The Holy Post Podcast – https://www.holypost.com • Quote from Saint Francis – "Make me an instrument of your peace" Join the conversation as we reimagine church as a community of justice. Have feedback or questions? Email us at [email protected] or follow us on social media. Help us continue this work: • Subscribe and leave a review on iTunes or Spotify • Support us on Patreon • Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast or "like" us on Facebook • Watch episodes on VOXOLOGY TV • Check out our merch store – Voxology on Etsy • Learn more at voxologypodcast.com Music by Timothy John Stafford Follow Tim on Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Exploring how to keep hope alive in overwhelming times and the church's role in restoring Shalom and unity amidst despair. Unpacking Ephesians 2, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford discuss practical ways to overcome feelings of helplessness by engaging in community action and embracing a holistic understanding of sin and salvation. Key Takeaways: Finding Hope Through Action – How engaging in local community efforts can alleviate feelings of despair and helplessness. Restoring Shalom – Understanding the church's role in reconciling divided groups and promoting unity, as illustrated in Ephesians 2. Holistic Redemption – Embracing a comprehensive view of sin and salvation that includes individual, communal, and systemic restoration. Navigating Despair – Strategies to avoid becoming overwhelmed by news cycles and societal issues, focusing on being informed rather than inflamed. Resources Mentioned: Scandalous Witness by Lee Camp – [Link] Ephesians 2 – [Link] Vox Podcast Non-ference Details – [Link] Join the conversation and share your experiences in finding hope during these challenging times. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Exploring how reframing sin and salvation as communal realities can transform our understanding of justice, community, and the mission of the church in today's world, Mike and Tim dive deep into the implications of being a community of justice and shalom while continuing their Exile Series. Key Takeaways: • Sin and Salvation as Communal Concepts – Understanding the importance of viewing sin and salvation beyond individualism, emphasizing the corporate dimensions within the church. • The Role of the Church as New Humanity – Discussing Paul's metaphor of the body of Christ and how it calls us to eradicate hierarchies and promote justice within our communities. • Reevaluating Missions and the Great Commission – Critiquing traditional approaches to evangelism and missions, focusing on the communal nature of the gospel and the importance of healthy, mutual relationships. • Current Events and the Church's Response – Analyzing recent developments like anti-Christian bias task forces and Bible reading mandates, and how they align or conflict with Jesus' teachings on the church and state. • Upcoming Opportunities for Spiritual Community – Announcing the upcoming "Non-Ference" in Nashville for those feeling spiritually homeless, and "Pastoring as an Act of Resistance," a monthly gathering for ministry leaders. Resources Mentioned: • Alan Kreider – The Patient Ferment of the Early Church • Tim Gombis – Faith Improvised podcast • Sky Jethani – Upcoming book on justice Join us as we journey together in questioning and rediscovering the true mission of Jesus. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected and be part of the conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Explore how recognizing sin and salvation as communal realities empowers the church to become a beacon of justice and shalom in a divided world. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the deep-seated issues within modern Christianity, examining the dichotomy between individualistic and communal understandings of faith. They discuss how embracing a communal approach to sin and salvation calls us to prioritize justice, mercy, and empathy as core elements of following Jesus. Key Takeaways: • The Communal Nature of Sin – Understanding how sin disrupts not only our relationship with God but also fractures community and societal structures. • Salvation as Corporate Restoration – Exploring how salvation restores communities, calling the church to embody justice and shalom as integral to the gospel. • Embracing Justice and Mercy – Discussing the role of the church in advocating for the marginalized, including immigrants and the LGBTQ+ community, and how mercy and empathy should guide our actions. • The Church as an Alternative Community – How the church can resist political ideologies and focus on being a community shaped by the cross, reflecting God's kingdom on earth. Resources Mentioned: • Matthew 25:31-46 – The parable of the sheep and goats, highlighting the importance of mercy and justice. • Books of Genesis and Leviticus – Insights into the communal aspects of sin and law in the Old Testament. • Lee Camp's Writings – Perspectives on the church's role in society and resisting political power structures. • Matthew Soerens and World Relief – Thoughts on immigration and welcoming the stranger. Call to Action: Join the conversation and help us build a community that embodies justice and shalom. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Explore how Christians can resist the allure of political power, understand the biblical call to live as exiles, and rediscover the transformative impact of being the church in a polarized society. Key Takeaways: • Resisting Political Idolatry – Understanding the dangers of aligning Christianity with political parties and leaders. • Embracing Exile – How the biblical concept of exile shapes the church's posture in today's world. • Living the One Another Commands – The importance of internal transformation and community practices outlined in the New Testament. • Prophetic Witness – How the church can influence society by embodying justice, love, and humility without relying on political means. Resources Mentioned: • The 59 "One Another" Commands – A compilation of New Testament directives for Christian community. • "Exiles" by Preston Sprinkle – Insights on the church's role in society. • "Resident Aliens" by Stanley Hauerwas and William Willimon – Discussing the church as a counter-cultural community. Join us as we delve into the heart of what it means to be the church in a divided world. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to continue the conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Mike and Tim unveil the revolutionary ways Jesus navigated oppressive systems by balancing submission and subversion, and how this approach empowers us to confront modern challenges with wisdom and courage. Key Takeaways: • The Submissive-Subversive Tension – Understanding how Jesus embodied both submission to authority and subversion of oppressive power structures, providing a model for us today. • Deep Dive into the Herod Family – Exploring the complex dynamics between Jesus and the Herod dynasty, including Herod the Great and his sons Archelaus, Antipas, and Philip. • Parables with Political Undertones – Analyzing how Jesus's parables served as subtle critiques of the political landscape and the rulers of his time. • Joyful Non-Compliance – Discussing Dallas Willard's concept and how it reflects Jesus's approach to authority and societal norms. • Modern Application – Reflecting on how to apply Jesus's example of balancing submission and subversion in our own lives amidst current societal and political challenges. Guest Highlights: Seth Erie – Makes a surprise musical appearance, adding a personal and heartfelt moment to the episode. Resources Mentioned: • Dallas Willard's Teachings • Ray Vanderlaan's Insights • 'Joy as an Act of Resistance' by Idles • Scripture References: Matthew 2, Luke 13, Obadiah, Malachi Join the conversation by subscribing, leaving a review, and following us on social media to stay updated on future episodes. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

An insightful exploration of how Christians can navigate political engagement in a democratic society while embracing their identity as exiles. Mike and Tim dive deep into the church's role in politics, discussing whether Christians should seek to transform society through laws and policies or focus on embodying the kingdom of God within their communities. They respond to Sky Jethani's thoughtful critiques, bringing fresh perspectives to the conversation about power, politics, and faith. Key Takeaways: Exile Identity – Understanding how the biblical concept of exile redefines Christian political identity, allegiance, and hope. Prayer and Action – Examining the relationship between prayer and practical action in responding to disasters and societal issues. Political Power – Analyzing the tension between using political power to influence societal change and the call to live as exiles embodying the kingdom of God. Engaging Critiques – Responding to Sky Jethani's questions about Christian political engagement in a democracy where believers hold voting power. Guest Highlights: Sky Jethani – Author, speaker, and co-host of The Holy Post Podcast. Sky offers thought-provoking critiques that challenge conventional views on Christian political involvement. Resources Mentioned: The Holy Post Podcast – holypost.com Caitlin's Curiosities – A podcast by Caitlin Schess exploring big theological questions with kids. The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider – A book discussing how early Christians transformed society through patient faithfulness. Join the conversation by subscribing, leaving a review, and following Voxology on social media. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Explore how embracing an exile identity reshapes Christian allegiance, hope, and posture toward government. Mike and Tim delve into lessons from the Book of Acts on how redefining our political identity as exiles can help us navigate the partisan landscape with a focus on the Kingdom of God. Key Takeaways: • Redefining Political Allegiance – Understanding how adopting an exile identity shifts our primary allegiance from partisan politics to the Kingdom of God. • Reconfiguring Hope – Discussing how our hope is not rooted in political outcomes but in Jesus and His mission. • Submission and Subversion – Exploring the tension between submitting to governing authorities and subverting the powers through a Kingdom-focused life. • Insights from Acts – Learning from early Christians on navigating political powers and maintaining faithfulness. • Practical Exile Living – Practical ways to live out the exile identity in today's politicized world. Resources Mentioned: • The Book of Acts – Bible Gateway – Acts • Shane Claiborne's Teachings – shaneclaiborne.com • Center for Action and Contemplation (Richard Rohr's Teachings) – cac.org Join us in exploring what it means to live as exiles today. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with others seeking to navigate faith in a politicized world. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford explore how the biblical concept of exile shapes the church's political identity today, drawing lessons from Jeremiah 29 and 1 Peter. Discover how being a "holy nation" and "exiles" informs how Christians can navigate modern society by balancing submission to authorities with a distinct kingdom identity. Key Takeaways: • Exile as a Political Identity – Understanding the implications of living as exiles in contemporary society. • Lessons from Jeremiah 29 – Learning from the Israelites' exile in Babylon about seeking the welfare of the city while maintaining faithfulness to God. • Insights from 1 Peter – How Peter's teachings on being a "holy nation" and "foreigners" apply to the modern church. • Balancing Submission and Subversion – Discussing the tension between honoring authorities and living out countercultural kingdom values. • Application for Today – Practical considerations for believers navigating political partisanship and the church's role in society. Guest Highlights: Mike Erre and Tim Stafford – Co-hosts of the Voxology Podcast, engage in a thoughtful conversation unpacking the theological concept of exile and its relevance for the church today. Resources Mentioned: • Jeremiah 29 – Read Jeremiah 29 • 1 Peter – Read 1 Peter • Book of Daniel – Read Daniel 1 Join the conversation! Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast for more insightful discussions on faith, culture, and living out the mission of Jesus in today's world. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Mike and Tim take a deep dive into the concept of exile and what it means for the Church today. They unpack Israel's political identity as a holy nation and a kingdom of priests, and how these ancient practices can inform and transform the way we live out our faith in the modern world. From rethinking notions of kingship and power to challenging economic and social norms, they explore how embracing God's upside-down Kingdom can help us resist the allure of worldly power and wealth. Key Takeaways: • Israel's Political Identity – Understanding Israel as a geopolitical entity called to be holy and set apart among the nations. • Upside-Down Politics – Exploring how Israel's practices contrasted with surrounding nations in kingship, militarism, economics, and social class. • Lessons for the Church Today – Discussing how the modern Church can adopt similar practices to reflect God's Kingdom and serve as a light to the nations. • Resisting Worldly Temptations – Examining how the Church can resist the temptations of power, wealth accumulation, and social hierarchies to embody God's vision. Resources Mentioned: • Exiles by Preston Sprinkle – A book exploring the Church as exiles and its implications for Christian practice. Call to Action: Don't forget to subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and follow us on social media to join the conversation as we continue to explore faith and culture. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

This episode, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford explore how listener feedback on hospitality and racial injustice invites us to reassess the church's approach to embodying the radical, self-sacrificial politics of Jesus' upside-down kingdom. Key Takeaways: Redefining Biblical Hospitality – Understanding hospitality as systemic inclusion, not just individual kindness, and its implications for the church today. Confronting Systemic Racism in the Church – Acknowledging and addressing the racial biases and injustices embedded within church culture and structures. Power Dynamics of the Kingdom of God – Differentiating between the coercive power of worldly kingdoms and the self-sacrificial power of Jesus' kingdom. Navigating Political Idolatry – Recognizing the pitfalls of aligning the church too closely with national politics and the concept of a "Christian nation." Embracing Exile and Community – Reflecting on feelings of exile from traditional church structures and the importance of community in discerning how to live out the Gospel authentically. Resources Mentioned: Greg Boyd – The Kingdom and the Cross – Link Timothy Keller – "How Do Christians Fit Into the Two-Party System? They Don't" – Link Join the conversation! Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Exploring how the Kingdom of God challenges political idolatry and offers a transformative vision of public faith beyond partisan divides. Mike and Tim delve into the multifaceted experience of exile—not only as humans and followers of Jesus but also feeling alienated from aspects of modern Christianity. Discover how Jesus' announcement of the Kingdom reshapes our understanding of politics, community, and what it means to live out a holistic, public faith today. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Exile – Unpacking the layers of exile as humans from the Garden, as Christians in culture, and feeling displaced within Christianity itself. • The Political Nature of the Kingdom of God – How Jesus proclaimed a geopolitical reality that transcends private devotion, calling for comprehensive public and social transformation. • Beyond Partisanship – Discussing why the Kingdom is political but not partisan, emphasizing a faith that is public, external, and social—not just personal and internal. • Navigating Political Idolatry – Addressing how church leaders and believers can respond to unrepentant political idolatry within the church community, seeking a path forward rooted in Jesus' teachings. Resources Mentioned: • The Healing Within by Chuck DeGroat – A book exploring personal and communal healing discussed in the Voxology book club. • Exiles by Preston Sprinkle – Insights into living faithfully amidst cultural and political dislocation. • The Holy Post Podcast – Hosted by Skye Jethani, contributing to conversations on politics and faith. Join our community in this conversation by subscribing, leaving a review, and following us on social media. Your support helps us continue these important discussions. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Discover how the teachings of Jesus and Paul on hospitality can guide us in navigating political divisions within the church. Join Mike Erre and Tim Stafford as they engage in a thought-provoking conversation with New Testament scholar Dr. Timothy Gombis, exploring the limits of biblical hospitality and how to practice radical inclusion and love in times of division. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Biblical Hospitality – Unpacking the biblical meaning of hospitality as love of the stranger, rooted in God's character and exemplified by Jesus. • The Limits of Hospitality – Examining whether there are limits to hospitality, and how Jesus and Paul's teachings address inclusion and exclusion within the faith community. • Navigating Political Division in the Church – Discussing practical ways to maintain unity and love in church communities amidst differing political views and tensions. • Cultivating Neighbor Love – Exploring how to develop practices and imaginations aligned with Jesus's teachings, focusing on neighbor love over division and enmity. • The Role of Imagination and Practices – Understanding how our imaginations and practices shape our responses to divisive times, and the importance of nurturing a Christ-centered perspective. Guest Highlights: Dr. Timothy Gombis – A respected New Testament scholar specializing in Pauline studies. Author of "The Drama of Ephesians" and "Power in Weakness," Dr. Gombis shares profound insights on biblical hospitality, the teachings of Jesus and Paul on radical inclusion, and offers wisdom on how to navigate divisions within church communities today. Resources Mentioned: • Faith Improvised Podcast – https://faithimprovised.blogspot.com/ • The Drama of Ephesians – https://www.amazon.com/Drama-Ephesians-Participating-Mystery-God/dp/0830838737 • Power in Weakness – https://www.amazon.com/Power-Weakness-Paul-Transformative-Christ/dp/0802873814 • Voxology Podcast Patreon Community – https://www.patreon.com/Voxology • The Healing Within by Chuck DeGroat – https://www.amazon.com/Wholeheartedness-Busyness-Cure-Finding-Life/dp/0802873830 Join us in fostering meaningful conversations. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Discover how embracing weakness, humility, and hospitality can transform your approach to church and community. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford challenge traditional church models, inviting you to explore alternative ways of gathering that reflect the true mission of Jesus. Dive into a thought-provoking discussion on power dynamics, the significance of the Lord's Supper, and Paul's vision of the new humanity in Ephesians. Key Takeaways: • Redefining Church Community – Why moving beyond traditional models can lead to a more authentic and engaging faith experience. • The Power of Weakness and Humility – Understanding how acknowledging our vulnerabilities fosters genuine connections and spiritual growth. • Hospitality as a Core Practice – How practicing hospitality reflects Jesus's teachings and unites diverse believers as equals. • Navigating Power Dynamics – Exploring how authority should be exercised within the church to promote mutuality and siblingship. • Embodying the New Humanity – Embracing Paul's vision from Ephesians where differences enhance unity rather than create divisions. Resources Mentioned: • The Bible Project – bibleproject.com – An engaging resource for deepening your understanding of the Bible through creative media. Call to Action: Join the Voxology community by subscribing to the podcast, leaving a review, and following us on social media. Engage in the conversation as we seek to embody the true mission of Jesus together. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Mike and Tim dive into the challenges many believers face when churches become too political. Reading listener emails, they explore how to find a church that prioritizes faith over partisan politics. They discuss how to separate pastors' personal political views from their spiritual leadership and share practical advice on building Christ-centered communities that embody the teachings of Jesus amidst political divisions. Key Takeaways: • Recognizing When Politics Overstep in Church – Understanding the signs that politics are overshadowing spiritual guidance in your church and its impact on your faith. • The Crucial Practice of Choosing a Faith Community – Mike emphasizes the importance of deliberately selecting a church community as a key aspect of spiritual formation. • Separating Pastors from Their Political Opinions – Insights on how to navigate relationships with church leaders whose political views may differ from yours. • Fostering Christ-Centered Communities – Tips on creating inclusive communities focused on love, humility, and the teachings of Jesus, especially during politically charged times. Resources Mentioned: • John 18:36 – Bible Gateway – Jesus speaks about His kingdom not being of this world. • Matthew 20:25-28 – Bible Gateway – Teaching on servant leadership and humility. Join the conversation! We'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences on navigating politics within your faith community. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow the Voxology Podcast on social media to stay connected. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Join Mike Erre and Tim Stafford as they immerse themselves in a powerful reading of the Sermon on the Mount from Eugene Peterson's The Message translation. Experience Jesus' profound teachings in Matthew 5-7 presented in fresh, contemporary language that brings new life to these timeless words. Mike and Tim reflect on how this revitalized perspective deepens their understanding of living under Christ's kingship and impacts their faith journey. Key Takeaways: • A Fresh Encounter with Jesus' Teachings – Discover how The Message translation reimagines the Sermon on the Mount in modern, relatable language. • Embodying the Kingdom Ethic – Insights into living out the principles Jesus lays out, embodying what it means when Christ is truly King. • Emotional Resonance of Scripture – Mike and Tim share their heartfelt reactions to the reading and discuss the profound impact of Scripture on their lives. Resources Mentioned: • The Message Bible Translation by Eugene Peterson – Bible Gateway - The Message Version • Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7) – Read the Passage Join the conversation by subscribing to Voxology, leaving a review, and following us on social media. Let's continue exploring the true mission of Jesus together. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Explore how the church's desire for political saviors mirrors Israel's demand for a king in 1 Samuel, leading to political idolatry in today's context. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the implications of the 2024 election results, analyzing the dangers of merging faith with politics. They emphasize the timeless wisdom of the Sermon on the Mount as a guide for Christians navigating political division and finding hope beyond earthly leaders. Key Takeaways: • Political Idolatry in Modern Christianity – Understanding the risks when Christians place their hope in political leaders rather than Christ. • Lessons from 1 Samuel – Reflecting on Israel's desire for a king and how it relates to the church's temptation to seek political solutions. • Elijah's Encounter with God – Finding solace and guidance in times of despair through God's still, small voice. • Embracing the Sermon on the Mount – Recommitting to Jesus' teachings as the foundation for Christian life amidst political turmoil. Resources Mentioned: • 1 Samuel 8 – Israel Demands a King – 1 Samuel 8 • 1 Kings 19 – Elijah's Encounter with God – 1 Kings 19 • The Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7, The Message Translation) – Matthew 5-7 (MSG) Join the conversation by subscribing to the Voxology Podcast, leaving a review, and following us on social media. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Mike, Tim, and special guest Pastor Suzie Lind engage in a candid conversation about the intricate relationship between faith, politics, and gender roles in today's society. They explore how political rhetoric shapes perceptions of masculinity, the impact on both men and women within the church, and the pitfalls of aligning faith too closely with political power. Drawing from historical contexts and personal experiences, they offer insightful perspectives on navigating the political landscape while faithfully embodying the teachings of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Challenging Political Narratives – Understanding how current rhetoric influences gender dynamics and the perception of masculinity in both society and the church. • Historical Lessons – Examining the consequences when the church seeks protection or power from political entities and how it affects spiritual integrity. • Kingdom over Politics – Emphasizing the importance of prioritizing the values of the Kingdom of God above political affiliations and power structures. • Living Faithfully in Tension – Providing practical wisdom on maintaining hope, loving others, and serving regardless of political climates or election outcomes. Guest Highlights: Susie Lind – Executive Pastor at Journey Church in Brentwood, Tennessee, and a seminary student at Fuller Theological Seminary. Susie shares her thoughtful insights on gender roles, cultural influences on faith, and the importance of embodying Jesus' teachings during complex times. Resources Mentioned: • Journey Church – journeytn.com • Fuller Theological Seminary – fuller.edu • The Holy Post Podcast – holypost.com • Book of Common Prayer Join the conversation by subscribing to the Voxology Podcast, leaving a review, and following us on social media for more thought-provoking discussions on faith and culture. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Mike and Tim are joined by members of the Voxology community in a live recording to delve into the intersections of ancient scripture and modern culture. They discuss Brian Zahnd's "The Christian Voter's Guide," Tim's eye-opening experience at a Moms for Liberty event, and how fear is wielded in politics today. Returning to Genesis 4, they explore the escalating nature of sin and its relevance in contemporary society. Key Takeaways: • The Momentum of Sin in Genesis 4 – Understanding how sin escalates and permeates humanity, and its implications for us today. • Fear as a Political Tool – Analyzing how fear is utilized in modern politics and its effects on Christian engagement in societal issues. • Insights from Brian Zahnd's 'The Christian Voter's Guide' – Exploring guidelines for Christians navigating the political landscape. • Tim's Experience at a Moms for Liberty Event – A firsthand account of fear-based rhetoric and its impact on communities. • Embracing Love Over Fear – Reflecting on 1 John 4:18 and how perfect love casts out fear. Guest Highlights: Seth Erre – Mike's son brings joy and reflection to the episode with a special musical performance dedicated to Tim's daughter, Mazzy. Resources Mentioned: • Brian Zahnd's "The Christian Voter's Guide" • 1 John 4:18 – "There is no fear in love..." • Moms for Liberty Event: "Awake Before They're Taken" • "Midnight Mass" – A Netflix series exploring religious themes and societal issues. Join the conversation and share your thoughts on how fear influences politics and faith today. Remember to subscribe, leave a review, and follow the Voxology Podcast on social media for more engaging discussions. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Discover the profound implications of sin's first appearance in Genesis and how it shapes our understanding of imaging God versus imaging the serpent. Explore how sin, depicted as an external force lurking at the door, can alter our identity from children of God to reflections of the serpent through our choices. Delve into the communal nature of sin and salvation, emphasizing that our actions influence not just ourselves but the entire community. Key Takeaways: • The First Mention of Sin in Genesis 4 – Unpacking the portrayal of sin as an external entity that desires to control us. • Imaging God vs. Imaging the Serpent – Understanding how our choices determine whom we reflect in the world. • The Communal Impact of Sin and Salvation – Recognizing that sin and redemption are collective experiences affecting the whole community. • Reframing Worship and Idolatry – Challenging traditional views to see worship as a way of life dedicated to imaging God in every aspect. • Restoration Through Christ – Examining how Jesus restores our ability to fully image God and live out our true humanity. Resources Mentioned: • Tim Stafford's Music Project "Barewolf" – Explore Tim's Halloween-themed music on Spotify. Join us in this enlightening discussion and be part of the journey to reimagine sin, worship, and what it truly means to image God. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on social media for more thought-provoking conversations. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Mike and Tim continue their "To Be Human" series with a deep dive into Genesis 4, exploring the profound story of Cain and Abel. They examine how the themes of sin, violence, and human autonomy first introduced in Genesis 3 are intensified in the next generation. Through a close reading of the text, they uncover the layers of meaning behind Cain's actions, the significance of the ground crying out, and the enduring relevance of these ancient narratives in understanding human behavior today. Key Takeaways: • The Parallels Between Genesis 3 and 4 – How the choices of Adam and Eve are mirrored and magnified in the actions of their children. • Sin as a Crouching Beast – Exploring the depiction of sin in Genesis 4 and its implications for human inclination towards autonomy and violence. • The Ground Cries Out – Understanding the connection between human actions and creation, and how violence impacts the earth itself. • The Mark of Cain: Judgment and Mercy – Discussing the dual nature of God's response to Cain's actions and the introduction of signs as both judgment and protection. • Relevance to Modern Life – Reflecting on how these ancient themes inform our understanding of contemporary issues like fear, jealousy, and societal violence. Guest Highlights: Tim Mackie – Insights from biblical scholar Tim Mackie enrich the conversation, offering deeper understanding of the Hebrew text and its themes. Resources Mentioned: • Tim Mackie's Work on Genesis – BibleProject.com • Genesis 4 Text – Reference to the biblical passage for further reading As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Discover how modern attacks on masculinity intersect with biblical teachings from Genesis as Mike and Tim delve into "The New Normal Part 3." They discuss Mike's personal experiences with backlash over his non-retaliatory stance rooted in the Sermon on the Mount, explore an insightful article on Gen Z men and the church, and unpack the theological implications of the curse on Adam. This episode offers fresh perspectives on masculinity, lament, and repentance for Christians today. Key Takeaways: • Challenging Cultural Perceptions of Masculinity – Mike shares about receiving attacks on his masculinity, prompting a conversation on what true masculinity looks like through a biblical lens. • Gen Z Men and the Church – An exploration of Luke Simon's Gospel Coalition article discussing why Gen Z men are attracted to a cruciform masculinity offered by the church. • Understanding Adam's Curse – A deep dive into the consequences of the Fall for Adam in Genesis 3, including toil, mortality, and exile from the Garden, and how this shapes our understanding today. • Embracing Lament and Repentance – Reflections on moving away from escape and pretense, embracing lament and repentance as pathways to authentic Christian living. Guest Highlights: Luke Simon's Insights – Discussion of Luke Simon's article on masculinity, Gen Z men, and the church's role in offering a positive vision of manhood. Resources Mentioned: • "Why Gen Z Men Like Me Are Staying in Church" by Luke Simon – [Link to the article] • Genesis Chapter 3 As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

The New Normal: Part Deux. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford dive deep into the complexities of Genesis 3, re-examining the curse's impact on desire and rule between men and women. They challenge traditional interpretations that have influenced gender dynamics and hierarchy within the church, arguing that these may reflect the fall rather than God's original design for co-ruling and co-image bearing. Key Takeaways: • Redefining Desire and Rule – Understanding how the Hebrew words for "desire" and "rule" in Genesis 3 carry negative connotations that have shaped male-female relationships. • Challenging Hierarchical Norms – Exploring the idea that hierarchical structures in the church stem from the fall, not from God's original intent in Genesis 1 and 2. • Culture Wars vs. Sermon on the Mount – Discussing whether Christians can engage in culture wars while adhering to the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount. • The Struggles of Ministry – Mike shares his personal journey of remaining in ministry despite challenges, emphasizing the importance of health and community in pastoral work. • Mercy Through Frustration – Contemplating the concept that God frustrates human endeavors as an act of mercy to draw people back to Him. Host Highlights: Mike Erre – Pastor and theologian who offers insightful perspectives on scripture and candid reflections on his ministry journey. Tim Stafford – Co-host who brings thoughtful analysis and personal experiences to discussions on cultural and relational dynamics. Resources Mentioned: • The Holy Post Podcast – holypost.com • Genesis 3 Exploration – Bible Gateway: Genesis 3 • Sermon on the Mount – Bible Gateway: Matthew 5-7 • "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" by Joshua Harris • Non-ference Event Details – voxologypodcast.com/nonference Join the conversation as Mike and Tim question established norms, offer fresh interpretations of scripture, and encourage a return to the original vision of partnership and equality. Stay Connected: Don't miss future episodes—subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on social media to continue exploring these important discussions. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

The New Normal: Part One. Mike and Tim delve into the profound implications of Genesis 3:16, reinterpreting the curse on the woman to uncover deeper meanings about pain, fear, and the introduction of scarcity. They tackle the weaponization of fear within church culture, confront the problematic hierarchy that undervalues blue-collar vocations, and offer fresh insights into how these themes impact modern Christian life. Key Takeaways: • The Weaponization of Fear in Church Culture – Understanding how fear is used to manipulate and control believers, and exploring ways to overcome it. • Challenging Church Hierarchies – Debunking the notion of spiritual superiority tied to certain vocations and affirming the value and dignity of all work in the Kingdom. • Reinterpreting Genesis 3:16 – A deep exploration of the Hebrew text to reveal that the curse involves more than physical pain in childbirth, highlighting the broader introduction of pain and hardship into human experience. • The Introduction of Scarcity and Painful Circumstances – Discussing how the fall disrupted abundance, leading to scarcity, fear, and strained relationships, particularly between men and women. • Empowering All Believers – Encouraging listeners to embrace their God-given roles and vocations, breaking free from societal and church-imposed hierarchies. Resources Mentioned: • Kingdom Conspiracy by Scot McKnight – Purchase the Book • Tim Mackie's Interpretation of Genesis 3:16 – The Bible Project • Genesis 3:16 Passage – Bible Gateway Call to Action: Join the conversation and share your thoughts on rethinking church hierarchy and the true meaning of Genesis 3:16. Don't forget to subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and follow us on social media for more insightful discussions. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Discover how embracing Jesus' teachings on power and politics can transform your relationships and reshape your identity in a polarized world. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the "To Be Human" series, examining how Jesus' approach to power counters the "power over" structures prevalent in today's society. They explore what it means to live out the Sermon on the Mount, love our enemies, and redefine our political identities as followers of Christ. Key Takeaways: • Power Over vs. Power Under – Understanding the contrast between worldly power dynamics and Jesus' model of servant leadership. • Exile Identity in Modern Times – How embracing our identity as exiles affects our posture towards government and politics. • Practical Steps to Love Your Enemies – Strategies for loving those we disagree with and fostering unity amid political divisions. • The Role of the Church in Politics – Why the most political thing the church can do is to be the church and embody the kingdom of God. • Applying the Sermon on the Mount Today – How to live out Jesus' teachings in our daily interactions and community involvement. Resources Mentioned: • Voxology Podcast Etsy Store – [Link] • Patreon Page – [Link] • Tidely Page – [Link] • The Sermon on the Mount – Matthew 5-7 • "I Am Malala" by Malala Yousafzai – [Link] • "Letter from Birmingham Jail" by Martin Luther King Jr. – [Link] Join the conversation and deepen your understanding of what it means to embody Jesus' teachings in a complex world. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Explore how understanding the serpent's influence from Genesis to today empowers us to break the cycle of sin and image God into the world. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the biblical narrative, revealing how humanity has repeatedly succumbed to the serpent's temptation and how Jesus provides a path to resist the powers at work. They address contemporary issues like gun violence and division within the church, emphasizing our role in embodying Jesus' teachings to overcome these challenges. Key Takeaways: The Serpent's Influence Throughout Scripture – Uncover how the serpent represents the powers that tempt humanity to define good and evil on our own terms. Imaging the Serpent vs. Imaging God – Understand the significance of our choices in reflecting either the serpent's ways or God's intentions in personal and communal life. Jesus as the One Who Defeats the Serpent – Learn how Jesus resisted temptation, embodying obedience and setting the ultimate example for us to follow. The Church's Role in Spiritual Warfare – Discover how unity, love, and resisting divisiveness are acts of spiritual warfare that enable us to crush the serpent under our feet. Addressing Modern-Day Challenges – Reflect on issues like gun violence and how the church can influence culture by truly living out Jesus' teachings. Resources Mentioned: Samuel Perry's Research on Religiosity and Gun Violence – @ProfSamPerry on Twitter Scripture References – Genesis 3 and 6, Romans 16:20 Previous Episodes in the Series – Voxology Podcast Join us in exploring how we can resist the serpent's influence and authentically image God in our lives. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to continue the conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Explore the profound implications of the serpent's role in Genesis 3, revealing how understanding its true identity as a spiritual being reshapes our perception of temptation, sin, and humanity's vocation as image-bearers of God. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve deep into the Hebrew terms "nakash" and "seraphim," discuss the enmity between the serpent's seed and the woman's seed, and trace the anticipation of a promised redeemer who will crush the serpent's head. Key Takeaways: Unveiling the Serpent's True Identity – Discover how the serpent in Genesis 3 represents more than a mere snake, drawing connections to spiritual beings and ancient Near Eastern context. The Battle Between Seeds – Understand the ongoing enmity between the serpent's offspring and humanity, setting the stage for the entire biblical narrative. Humanity's Lost Vocation – Learn how the fall affects our role as God's image-bearers, introducing spiritual battles that continue today. The Promise of Redemption – Explore how the prophecy of a coming "he" who will crush the serpent's head points directly to Jesus, fulfilling the anticipation set from the beginning. Addressing Mental Health in Faith – Mike and Tim respond to a listener's email about depression and medication, tackling the stigma around mental health within Christian communities. Resources Mentioned: Genesis 3 – Read Genesis 3 Hebrew Terms "Nakash" and "Seraphim" – Insights into original language and meanings. Ezekiel 1 and Revelation 4 – Ezekiel 1, Revelation 4 Dallas Willard's Teachings – Dallas Willard The Bible Project – Understanding Spiritual Beings Join the conversation and share your thoughts on the serpent's true identity and its implications for our spiritual journey. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay updated on future episodes. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Explore the challenging question of reconciling the violent depictions of God in the Old Testament with the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford are joined by theologian Dr. Timothy Gombis to delve into the complexities of God's character, the problem of Old Testament violence, and how these narratives inform our understanding of justice, hospitality, and the Christian call to care for the marginalized. Key Takeaways: Understanding Old Testament Violence – Discussing how God's actions in the Old Testament are portrayed and what they mean for believers today. God's Character and Consistency – Exploring the continuity between the Old and New Testament depictions of God, and how Jesus represents the full revelation of God's nature. Hospitality and Justice – Emphasizing the importance of hospitality to the marginalized and how the church should embody justice and care for the oppressed. Modern Application – Applying biblical insights to contemporary issues, including how Christians can engage with politics, social justice, and serve their communities. Guest Highlights: Dr. Tim Gombus – A theologian and New Testament scholar, Dr. Gombus shares his insights on reconciling Old Testament violence with New Testament teachings, and emphasizes the critical role of hospitality and justice in the Christian faith. He also shares personal experiences from teaching kindergarten that highlight the importance of seeing and serving the overlooked in our communities. Resources Mentioned: Greg Boyd's Writings – Exploring different interpretations of Old Testament violence. Peter Leithart – Insights on God's actions in the Old Testament. Books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel – Discussing God's concern for justice and hospitality. Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5 – New Testament examples of God's judgment. Join us in this deep and thought-provoking conversation as we wrestle with challenging questions about God's character and how to live out our faith today. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay connected and be part of the ongoing dialogue. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford delve into the roots of shame and hiding in our lives, unpacking Genesis 3 to reveal God's compassionate invitation to step out of isolation and into authentic connection. By reexamining the true meaning of "fear of the Lord," they challenge common misconceptions and offer practical insights into overcoming shame through vulnerability and confession. Key Takeaways: Understanding Shame and Hiding – How shame leads us to hide from God and others, and the importance of coming out of hiding to restore relationships. Reframing the Fear of the Lord – Exploring "fear of the Lord" as trusting God's wisdom over our own, rather than being afraid of Him. God's Compassionate Questions – Discussing how God's response to Adam and Eve with questions is an invitation to reconnection, not condemnation. Overcoming Shame through Vulnerability – The role of authentic community and confession in healing shame and building genuine connections. Resources Mentioned: Genesis 3 – Genesis 3 Passage Proverbs on Fear of the Lord – Proverbs Passages Gordon Wenham's Genesis Commentary BibleProject Podcast with Tim Mackie Jon Collins' Insights on Fear of the Lord Call to Action: Join the conversation and share your experiences in overcoming shame and finding authentic connection. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy