Episode 184: Phillip Smalley

Phillip Smalley, Vice President of Motorsports Management International, joins Davey Segal (6:10) for a bit of a different conversation this week surrounding driver representation. Smalley, who essentially serves as a driver agent for the likes of Ross Chastain, Justin Haley and others, dives into his busy last couple weeks, the re-launch of MMI, how Cary Agajanian's vision continues to live on and the significance of Agajanian in the driver representation market. Smalley also discusses Chastain's involvement with MMI as a founding member and owner, his personal relationship with the Melon Man, conversations had after tense moments on and off-track with Chastain, his background in motorsports and why he opted to go down the business path, building relationships, dealing with large sums of money, his future goals and aspirations and more. Davey also recaps a scintillating race from Kansas Speedway, why Denny Hamlin's move on Kyle Larson wasn't dirty, previews Darlington Throwback Weekend and Papa Segal pays homage to the No. 84.