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Babylon 5 vs. Deep Space Nine- "The Coming of Shadows" vs. "Past Tense"
Season 2 · Episode 11

Babylon 5 vs. Deep Space Nine- "The Coming of Shadows" vs. "Past Tense"

Uncanny Treks · Bob and Matt

December 13, 202151m 15sExplicit

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Show Notes

Coming of Shadows S2E9 (1 Feb 95) vs. Past Tense S3E11-2 (2-9 Jan 95)

-The Hugos recognize both science fiction & fantasy

-Bob sees both G’Kar & Mollari as being somewhat Falstaffian characters

-Emperor Turhan is played by the famous Austro-Turkish actor Turhan Bey, nicknamed Turkish Delight in 40s Hollywood who returned to US tv in the 90s, including playing a Russian on an early seaQuest DSV

-One of the many things that’s cringey about The Lion, the Witch, & the Wardrobe is someone selling their soul for Turkish Delight

-Prime Minister Malachi is played by Jewish-American actor Malachi Thorne who also played False Face in the 60s Batman show, the Judge on the early 90s Batman cartoon, a gorilla in Batman Beyond, the Talosian keeper in the very first Star Trek ep, the commodore in the original series clipshow episode of that first episode, & a Romulan senator on TNG

-Matt & Bob discuss their reluctance to revisit the 60s Batman show & the good things they’ve heard about the Batman ‘66 comic

-If you want Roman intrigue, Bob always recommends I, Claudius (1976) &, for Venetian intrigue, Don’t Look Now (1973)

-Bob admires Brendan Fraser’s mullet in Doom Patrol

-Matt torments Bob w/ Robert Frost

-Bob wants to be buried w/ both the Little Red Book (1964) & the Rules of Acquisition (1995)

-The cop Vin is played by Dick Miller, he voiced a gangster in Mask of the Phantasm & played the newsstand vendor in Picard’s Dixon Hill program on TNG

-Bob has been deeply disgusted by Michael Shellenberger’s book tour & how he wants to expel the homeless from SF

-The best entry book on Trotskyism is Ernest Mandel Trotsky: A Study in the Dynamic of his Thought (1979)

-Pt2 references the greatest director’s credit of all time in The Wild Bunch (1969)

-Pt2 has Ron Howard’s brother as the guy who steals Dax’s combadge, his 2nd of 4 Trek appearances & only 1 as a human, the first being Balok in one of the first original series episodes, the third being a Ferangi in Enterprise, & the 4th being an Orion drug dealer late in Disco S1