
Two Rabbis, Three Opinions
43 episodes
Mesorah or Moment?
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S2 Ep 11The Story We Choose: Narratives, Identity, and the Meaning of Pesach
As Pesach approaches, we prepare to retell the story of the Exodus. But what if the Seder is about far more than simply recalling the past? In this episode, Rabbis Yitzchok Adlerstein and Simi Lerner explore the idea that we do not encounter facts in a vacuum. We see the world through a framework, through a narrative that gives shape and meaning to everything we experience. In a time when competing narratives about war, politics, and society are so stark, the Torah's mandate to relive the Exodus takes on renewed significance. The Seder is not merely a recounting of history. It is an act of formation. We are not just telling a story. We are shaping the way we and our children understand HaKadosh Baruch Hu, history, and our place in the world. At the same time, the Seder is not meant to be a purely intellectual exercise. It is an experience that must be lived and felt. The task of a parent is not only to convey ideas, but to pass along a way of seeing that can endure over time. Pesach thus becomes the annual opportunity to reaffirm the narrative that defines us, not as an abstract belief, but as a lived reality. It is not only the story we tell. It is the story we inhabit.
S2 Ep 10Tucker Carlson Accidentally Started a Good Conversation
A surprising claim by Tucker Carlson becomes the unlikely starting point for a serious discussion about messianism. After Carlson suggested that the war in the Middle East is being driven by Jewish dreams of rebuilding the Temple—and even blamed Chabad for pushing the United States toward war—Rabbis Yitzchok Adlerstein and Simi Lerner step back to examine the deeper question: what role does messianic belief actually play in Judaism? The conversation explores the difference between destructive and constructive messianism. From the apocalyptic ideology of Iran's ruling clerics to the Jewish belief in a future perfected world, they ask how powerful religious ideas can inspire both noble visions and dangerous distortions. Along the way they discuss Chabad's messianic roots, the historical trauma of false messiahs, the prophetic vision of a redeemed world, and why Judaism insists that human moral action must play a role in shaping the future. Is messianism a dangerous fantasy—or an essential source of Jewish hope? To read Professor Marc Shapiro's three articles on Rabbi Steinman and the Messiah, click here, here, and here. Join Rabbi Adlerstein's Thursday night Zoom Maharal shiur at 8:30 Israel time. Make sure to check out Rabbi Lerner's podcast Judaism From Within.
S2 Ep 9Conspiracy, Responsibility, and the Draft: A Hard Look at the Haredi Conversation
When difficult questions arise inside a religious community, loyalty can sometimes replace honest inquiry. In this thoughtful discussion, Rabbis Yitzchok Adlerstein and Simi Lerner analyze remarks from a recent public forum about the Israeli draft crisis. Claims of secret Zionist plots, hidden agendas, and century-long conspiracies are put under scrutiny. The rabbis argue that Torah itself demands intellectual integrity: if accusations are made, they must be supported with evidence. If challenges arise, they must be confronted honestly. The episode ultimately asks a deeper question. In a country fighting for its survival, how should a Torah community articulate its role, its responsibilities, and the values it brings to the Jewish people?
S2 Ep 8How Do I Love Thee? The Purpose of Learning Torah
In this continuation of their discussion on Judaism's "mission statement," Rabbis Yitzchok Adlerstein and Simi Lerner turn to the question that lies at the heart of Jewish life: what exactly are we doing when we learn Torah? Is Torah primarily preparation for mitzvah observance, a path to personal growth, an intellectual pursuit, or something far more fundamental? Why has the Torah world sometimes been suspicious of searching for meaning in learning, insisting instead on Torah lishmah? And how can abstract sugyos that seem distant from daily life shape a Jew's mission and relationship with Hashem? Drawing on the Rambam, Maharal, Rav Hirsch, Ramchal, and the broader mesorah, the conversation explores Torah as encounter with the Divine mind, as the formative force of Jewish identity, and as the engine of personal and cosmic tikkun. The result is a thoughtful and wide-ranging exploration of why limud haTorah stands at the center of every authentic Jewish vision. Join Rabbi Adlerstein's Thursday night Maharal shiur at 8:30 Israel time by clicking here. Make sure to check out Rabbi Lerner's podcast Judaism From Within.
S2 Ep 7Why Are We Doing This? Mission, Meaning, and the Purpose of Jewish Life
In a world overflowing with mitzvos but often short on meaning, what does it mean to have a Jewish mission? Rabbis Adlerstein and Lerner explore whether modern religious life has lost the language of purpose, and why clarity about why we serve Hashem may be just as important as knowing what to do. A thoughtful conversation about meaning, agency, and responsibility in contemporary Jewish life. Make sure to check out Rabbi Simi Lerner's podcast Judaism From Within.
S2 Ep 6In Praise of the Naive Anglo: Why Anglo sensibilities ought to be marks of distinction, rather than conversation stoppers
For decades, we've been told that we just don't get how Israeli realities dictate how Torah politics need to be conducted. What happens, however, when those sensibilities are part of the Torah mission statement, as you've been taught it? Are such mission statements quintessentially valuable, or useless baggage in Avodas Hashem? Make sure to check out Rabbi Simi Lerner's podcast Judaism From Within.
S2 Ep 5The Appeal for Anglo-Charedi Loyalty: The Ramat Beit Shemesh Event
"Theirs not to reason why/ Theirs but to do and die" worked for the Light Brigade, but can it work for all of us? Can Anglos who were taught to value critical thought, and to think for themselves, leave their questions at the entrance door to charedi participation? If not, what do they do?
S2 Ep 4FRUM CULTURE: The advantages and pitfalls of having our own
Cultural independence can be a good thing, except when the topic gets dicey. Exploring what was dead wrong about Satmar's explanation of why they endorsed Mamdani - and why Mishpacha giving them cover is completely incomprehensible.
Rabbi Aubrey Hersh Responds (BONUS EPISODE)
bonusHaving been critiqued by us as a milquetoast, Rabbi Hersh responds, and dishes it out to us. Genteely, of course. Like a Brit. Also - an intro to our next series, on the place and impact of home-grown frum culture.
S2 Ep 3Stop Kvetching!: Do Jews yell "fire" too often, when confronting antisemitism?
Perhaps Jews just ought to let go of the irritations of slurs, graffiti, etc. That's just part of living in galus. Or maybe mah yafis will just make things worse? Listen as the distance between proper English gentlemen and brash Americans opens wider than ever.
S2 Ep 2The Rally and the Rift: Wrestling with the Million Man March
Many found the huge gathering inspiring. Others were less than enthusiastic about the political messages. What options do we have in reacting? More importantly - the answers are not simply theoretical.
S2 Ep 1Silver Linings?: Time to start taking inventory of the consequences of war
Is it permissible - and in good taste - to reflect upon positive consequences of a pogrom that took 1500 lives, and a war that took another 916? Can we point to gains that were made - military, politically, socially and spiritually? Is there some kind of a pairing of Midas HaDin and Midas HaRachamim? Your two rabbis duke it out. To read Rabbi Adlerstein's moving tribute to Rabbi Moshe Hauer z"l, click here.
S1 Ep 28Are We Literally Judged? Fear and trembling over the Days of Awe
The rabbis go at each other on whether the old-time image of a predetermination of the coming year is accuate, and useful. As well as some thoughts about Charlie Kirk's assassination as the Oct. 7th of serious Christians.
S1 Ep 27Conscience at War: Moral Relativism, Jewish Law, and the Crisis of Truth in Israel
Does one's inner moral voice count, or are all moral questions adequately addressed in halachic sources? Especially since those sources already have plenty to say about going beyond the letter of the law? Does a Torah-honed conscience add to - or interfere with - Hashem's expectations of us?
S1 Ep 26The Pitfalls of Believing Your Own Rhetoric
So many groups couch their arguments in overheated exaggeration. It works wonders for the adoring base. When people begin believing their own rhetoric, they cease to become people who can win the sympathies of others... as in the recent meeting between two gedolei Yisrael and Mike Huckabee.
S1 Ep 25Dial-a-Kabbalist
Even if you are not usually into the world of segulot, berachot from holy men et al, there's no harm in trying it occasionaly, right? Or is there? Are we becoming more preoccupied with the metarational, and does it matter? Listen as the two rabbis go at each other.
S1 Ep 24Missing the Point? Jews, Mamdani, and the Politics of Panic
When a politician like Zohran Mamdani speaks out against Israel, should the Jewish community sound the alarm—or take a step back? Rabbi Lerner and Rabbi Adlerstein debate whether Mamdani's ideology is utterly without merit. In a perfect world, how would the Torah want us to deal with the concerns he raises? Does any of that carry over to our imperfect world? The two rabbis go at each other, and ultimately find some things to agree upon.
S1 Ep 23It's A Miracle!
There are dangers and pitfalls in seeing too many things as miraculous - and in seeing too few. Your hosts get into the weeds about this, including of course an examination of what our mesorah says. By the end, they are not disagreeing. Too much. Miraculously.
S1 Ep 22Who Is Leaving Yiddishkeit: A Conversation with Dr. Moshe Krakowski
Dr. Moshe Krakowski reports on the findings of the first part of a research project commissioned by the OU to study attrition from Orthodoxy. A professor at the Azrieli graduate school at YU, Dr. Krakowski also studies charedi education, consistent with his own roots. We speak about his own journey, the reasons why the community needs to invest in empirical reseach about the issues that concern us, and the seperate lessons gleaned from the study for Modern Orthodox and charedi parents. How do we keep our kids so attached to Yiddishkeit that they never achieve the "escape velocity" necessary to move away from it?
S1 Ep 21Living In The Bubble: The Pros and Cons of Insularity and Isolation
Does living a truly engaged Torah life require shielding ourselves from all foreign influences? Are there greater - or fewer - reasons for advocating insularity at the moment? Are there different answers for different communities - and individuals? Can you filter out the undesirable without blocking out the good as well?
S1 Ep 20Rethinking Segulot
A thoughtful, balanced exploration of segulot uestioning their origins, meaning, and role in our lives. We dig deep, stay respectful, and don't shy away from the tough questions.
S1 Ep 19Do You Really Need a Hashkafa?
Do You Really Need a Hashkafa? Plus- Why not all Anglo charedim are walking lockstep with the American Moetzes. A spirited defense. Read Rav Adlerstein's writings at www.cross-currents.com.
S1 Ep 18Critical Thinking: The Price We Pay When Ignoring It
Charlatans promoting spiritual snake-oil, newfangled segulos, stifling creativity. All are part of a disturbing trend away from critical thinking. We allow this at our own peril. Want more? Tune in to Rabbi Lerner's podcast here, and Rabbi Adlerstein's weekly Maharal shiur (Thursday evenings, 8:30 PM at https://us06web.zoom.us/j/76700528687). We'd love to hear your feedback! Write to us at [email protected].
S1 Ep 17Does Hamas Believe in G-d?
Does Hamas Believe in G-d? Plus - defending the indefensible. Want more? Tune in to Rabbi Lerner's podcast here, and Rabbi Adlerstein's weekly Maharal shiur (Thursday evenings, 8:30 PM at https://us06web.zoom.us/j/76700528687). We'd love to hear your feedback! Write to us at [email protected].
S1 Ep 16Disappointed By Gedolim?
Disappointed By Gedolim? How to deal with it, without endangering your Olam Habo - or your sanity. Want more? Tune in to Rabbi Lerner's podcast here, and Rabbi Adlerstein's weekly Maharal shiur (Thursday evenings, 8:30 PM at https://us06web.zoom.us/j/76700528687). We'd love to hear your feedback! Write to us at [email protected].
S1 Ep 15Has the Age of Gedolim Ended?
To Whom do you take your kids for a bracha? Join Rav Yitzchok Adlerstein and Rav Simi Lerner for a fascinating conversation about how the meaning of "Gadol" has changed in recent decades, as well as where it - and we = are heading.
S1 Ep 14The Opening of the Charedi Mind: Why Anglos Choose to Call Themselves Charedim
It sometimes feels like many Anglos live a contradition. They call themselves Charedim, while many of their beliefs and practices stand in sharp contrast to the Israeli definition of the term. How do they deal with that - and why?
S1 Ep 13Rabbenu Hiawatha? A Misguided Analogy of Religion and Race in Israel
Join Rav Yitzchok Adlerstein and Rav Simi Lerner as they analyze the misguided analogy of religion and race in Israel (even as they disagree about what, exactly, is misguided). And, how to deal with positions they expect you to believe when you really can't.
S1 Ep 12What Now?: After the US elections, should Torah Jews be doing anything differently?
Now that the US elections have come and gone, should Torah Jews be doing anything differently? Join Rav Yitzchok Adlerstein and Rav Simi Lerner for a stimulating and sometimes surprising conversation. We want to hear from you! Write to [email protected] to let us know what you think.
S1 Ep 11Kiddush Hashem: Narrow and Broader Definitions
Is kiddush Hashem always coupled with the performance of mitzvos? Can it be performed even without intention? Even at the same time as doing an aveirah?
S1 Ep 10Podcasting: Does it lead to Gan Eden or Gehinom?
Join us as we interview pioneer podcaster Rabbi Avremel Kivelevitz. You can find Rav Kivelevitz's podcasts here.
S1 Ep 9Isolation or Engagement?
What is the Torah's preference about dealing with challenges to our way of life?
S1 Ep 8Karma or Hashgacha?
Why are some intent on ruling out G-d's presence in absolutely all matters, while some believe it is obviously the case? How do these views impact upon our behavior?
S1 Ep 7Words On Fire
Overheated rhetoric - the many prices we pay for it, including assassination attempts, hopeless division, and blindness to the truth.
S1 Ep 6Unraveling the Unusual: The intersection of environmentalism, socialism, and Islam
Is their coming together in massive protests in the West an unholy marriage of convenience? Or is there something more than that? Two rabbis, a bunch of opinions.
S1 Ep 5I've Got the Old Charedi Draft Blues
It's difficult, but not impossible, for Anglos who identify as charedi to speak calmly and dispassionately about the draft issue. It becomes soooooo much harder when you have to listen to some of the most contorted arguments that some "spokesmen" have put out for popular consumption. If your reasonable self is taking a pounding, you are not alone.
S1 Ep 4"Us" or "Them:" What's been missing in charedi chinuch
History forced the Torah community to develop a bastion mentality. The unintended consequence of that has been neglecting the intrinsic values of Eretz Yisrael, and of Jewish nationhood.
S1 Ep 3It's Not Your Father's Daas Torah
The concept of Daas Torah is one of the defining elements of charedi life. Defining it, however, is not so simple. We look at some of the competing definitions, especially in the light of demands to cast ballots along party lines.
S1 Ep 2Rough Time Ahead for Charedi Draft Exemption
The issue may bring down the government. It certainly threatens to imperil the national achdus. A recent Cross-Currents piece has made it's way beyond charedi circles. This episode explores the different perspectives, and the different options, on the blanket exemption for Charedim.
S1 Ep 1Who Speaks For Us – And Why?
We've all seen the carefully crafted and always polite opinion pieces by Rabbi Avi Shafran. Now meet the person deftly holding the pen, and why he moved from a successful calling as a mechanech to the often-thankless task of public defender of Torah values for Agudah.
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Events, issues, and personalities in the Israeli Torah world, for people comfortable with their Anglo background and chinuch. Typically, an episode will begin with some conversation between Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein and a rabbinic colleague, that will segue into an interview with an exciting guest.