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Alice & Yvette are joined this week with Vice President of the Adult Performer Advocacy Committee (APAC) & pornstar Riley Reyes (RileyReyXXX)! The threesome nerd out and get weird with porn horcruxes, consent culture in porn, ethical porn, clown orgies, bad sex advice, alternative sex toy stores, and a squirrel eating a taco shell in a tree.
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Yvette d'Entremont 1:01 This is two girls. One Mike, the show that talks about the holes and plotholes of your favorite porn.
Welcome to Two girls one Mike the porn cast where the orgasms are made up and the plot doesn't matter. I'm your co host Yvette Dr. Mon here is my lovely by vivacious rambunctious, hysterical. And did I mention she has a nice butt co host Alice Vaughn Ellis, how the fuck are you doing today?
Alice Vaughn 1:25 I am so disappointed in you. The plot doesn't matter. I'm sorry. You know,
Yvette d'Entremont 1:29 it doesn't. But that's why we can make fun of it. And it can still be a fantastic porn that gets you off.
Alice Vaughn 1:35 I feel like I don't know you anymore.
Yvette d'Entremont 1:39 Well, I mean, that was part of the premise of the podcast before we started doing this was you know, you can make fun of the science in a sci fi movie and you too bad you still get out of that movie, what you went in there for? And it's kind of same thing with a porn, or at least it used to be before we really started doing this podcast and now I'm like, No, I want the pot to be good.
Alice Vaughn 1:56 I mean, the problem is now that if the pot sucks, I can't get out. Yeah,
Yvette d'Entremont 2:00 it's really sad now I'm like, really? Your entire plot was just step mother thinks step daughter's boyfriend is hot. Like that's your entire plot. Come on.
Alice Vaughn 2:10 Really? This is a fake cab you okay? You don't have Venmo you don't have PayPal. There is no other way we can pay for this transaction except tips. This is the only way
Yvette d'Entremont 2:20 to be fair. I've had some really dark times in New York, but that was before Venmo so I don't believe any of it now. So Riley What do you think? And actually, guys, we have a guest on the show today. We have a three way scissoring today, guys, it's gonna be very hot. I'm so excited. That sounds very complicated. You know, six legs shit can happen.
Alice Vaughn 2:40 Am I that flexible? Is the question. So we have on the show, performer and advocate vice president of APAC, the adult performer advocacy committee, Riley raise Riley, welcome
Riley Reyes 2:52 to the show. Thank you. I'm excited to be here.
Yvette d'Entremont 2:54 We're very happy to have you on with us.
Unknown Speaker 2:56 So question, is there a way to pay for it? taxicab other than money in tickets
Riley Reyes 3:02 other than money and tickets. I don't think so.
Unknown Speaker 3:05 There's so many other body parts
Riley Reyes 3:06 I feel like it's just money or sex. I guess you could give someone drugs or food depending on their motivation but probably not like a real cab probably just like some guy you know,
Yvette d'Entremont 3:18 feel like most regular cabs are going to be like now I want to cash Yeah, I feel like there are some that be like no my as much as I would love you to suck my dick like my boss is gonna kill me if I don't come back with this ride paid for. Who knows. I've also never had to, you know fuck a pizza delivery boy. But you know, then again, my husband used to be a pizza delivery boy. So you could say I'm fucking one all the damn time.
Alice Vaughn 3:41 Well, there you go. Does he ever bring you a pizza is a better question.
Yvette d'Entremont 3:44 Oh, he doesn't. This whole relationship is built on a throne of lies and I need my husband to bring me a pizza. Clearly. I'm the cook in the house. He's the one that makes coffee.
Riley Reyes 3:56 It's important to have your roles figured out like that. Good division of labor. He makes Much
Yvette d'Entremont 4:00 better coffee than me I it's not that he can't cook it's that I love it. So that's how the division happened. But yeah, I do get to fuck up delivery boy we should we should roll we've never role played that though that is happening and I'm going to mix it with the horse that challenge
Alice Vaughn 4:15 I kind of want you guys to go all in on this roleplay like I want him to apply for a job at a local Pizza Hut pizza store really commit I don't
Yvette d'Entremont 4:22 know which one he worked at like you know his high school job and I'm like I want him to show up to the door with a pizza.
Alice Vaughn 4:28 I want you just to make the actual transaction like call up your local Domino's and say I would like to place an order he applied for specifically a little delivery boy job and he came to deliver a pizza so I think
Yvette d'Entremont 4:41 your give me a few days I can talk him into this. I'm very invested in my roleplay I'm sorry there's no other way to put this you know he was down for having his penis cloned for clonal Willie, so I'm pretty sure I can talk him into baby. I have this idea. So how would you like to go back to working at Domino's again cuz you I'm sure you would love it so much as a teenager.
Alice Vaughn 5:02 Riley, what's the most interesting job? You've had either fake job performing in porn or just in real life?
Riley Reyes 5:09 I mean, my job before I got into porn was working in production. And I did a lot of theater. And I did a lot of department store window installations actually in New York City. So the high end department store windows were pretty cool. We used to make a bunch of crazy sculptures. I'd be in some warehouse in Red Hook fiberglassing things in the middle of the summer. It was wild actually sounds like a lot of fun. Not the fiberglassing but a lot of the other stuff. I got to paint and glitter things and put fake snow on stuff and make tiny Christmas elves. That was fun.
Yvette d'Entremont 5:41 I can see that being good. So Riley, how did
Alice Vaughn 5:43 you get into the industry? Since you were a creative before?
Riley Reyes 5:47 Oh, I really consider myself kind of a hobbyist who went Pro. Alright, so I was working as an artist. I was going to lots and lots of sex parties, like on weekends, sometimes even during the week. I'd really fallen in with this. Cool crowd of like New York City, Brooklynite. vernors would love to warehouse parties that Bernard says and they go to brown and like polyamorous people, swingers all having these really neat themed sex parties and I was out playing going to these parties constantly, pretty much every weekend. Now part of me wants to know if we have friends in common from that. See,
Alice Vaughn 6:23 I have a strong feeling. We have a lot of friends in common since I'm in New York and I have a lot of friends who are burners so
Riley Reyes 6:29 well, I'm sure I have fucked some people, you know. But that's the scene kind of inspired me to try out porn. I'd always wanted to try but people tell you, it'll ruin your life and you'll be a social pariah. But once I was friends with these people, I said, You know, I don't think it will. I think these people will still like me and be my friend and did a few scenes is kind of on a lark and really liked it and ended up finally moving to Los Angeles to pursue it full time.
Yvette d'Entremont 6:56 I highly encourage moving to Los Angeles, not not just for porn, just because Los Angeles is way better than anywhere else in the universe or New York.
Alice Vaughn 7:03 I'm very offended by that.
Yvette d'Entremont 7:05 I'm like, Look, it's just it's New York only it's warm and you feel like you can take a breath once in a while because the city isn't screaming at you constantly. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 7:13 but you're not in traffic half the day, so Okay, fine. You
Riley Reyes 7:16 wait, what about pizza rat? I think we're all forgetting the cultural importance of pizza rats. A rat
Yvette d'Entremont 7:22 was a hoax.
Unknown Speaker 7:23 No,
Unknown Speaker 7:24 yes, it was an amazingly well executed hoax. I was
Alice Vaughn 7:28 shocked. It was all of us.
Yvette d'Entremont 7:30 We were all a part of it. And it was all a part of us. But no, it was this person that pulls off these kind of like viral social media hoaxes. It's the most I read the story a bit and I was like, nothing is real. And I question everything now. It's amazing all the little things that somebody might be out there doing these little pranks that were like this fucked with my senses of reality. And you think this is real and finding out pizza route was fake was just Why?
Alice Vaughn 7:55 I mean, it's just so symbolic of New York to I mean, I saw and I'm not even kidding when I say This I saw a few months ago, a squirrel in the trees with a taco shell. And I felt like that embodied a lot of me. But I mean still pizza rat is just
Unknown Speaker 8:10 Alice Are you sure that's not your animal guy? You're your spirit creature that you it's not your form that you're transformed into like in the Harry Potter universe and no I am. I feel a squirrel with a taco is you?
Unknown Speaker 8:26 You're very fast paced and you like tacos? I think it's you.
Riley Reyes 8:29 That's a powerful talisman.
Yvette d'Entremont 8:33 Yeah, squirrel at the taco.
Alice Vaughn 8:34 So I feel like we kind of touched on this before we started the show. But what are the horcruxes and porn?
Yvette d'Entremont 8:40 What are the pieces of ones of a porn star soul I think or wherever you store your soul.
Unknown Speaker 8:46 I mean, one of them easily, like a lot of souls can fit in dreads penis or his testicles. subleased
Yvette d'Entremont 8:52 there's another one for dreads penis. His dreads penis is actually one of Voldemort's horcruxes
Riley Reyes 8:58 jets penis is testament to what the human body can be. It defies all reason. And it's been inside my butthole so I feel pretty proud. Oh, we have questions
Yvette d'Entremont 9:09 ask, how long did it take to ease it in? That's what I got to know.
Riley Reyes 9:14 Well, the thing with angel is that if you're going for something that big, it isn't even really a day of sort of process. It's the like, weeks leading up to a sort of process where you're gonna work your way up like bigger and bigger bugs until you're ready. So the day of it didn't take that long. Cool.
Alice Vaughn 9:32 I feel like this is what should be in an Olympic event almost being able to mount it.
Yvette d'Entremont 9:36 Yeah, I mean, he is mountain Dredd. We just have all the respect in the world both for that penis and for anyone who dares attempt it. So we
Alice Vaughn 9:44 got hemorrhoids just thinking about it.
Riley Reyes 9:46 Well, people do fisting so you know,
Yvette d'Entremont 9:48 yeah. Where would you hide yourself or actually would have to be something that people would have to work hard to find.
Alice Vaughn 9:54 Definitely is not in the tub of lube on set a Bible.
Riley Reyes 9:58 Oh, Bible would be an interesting one. I feel like one of the things about a Horcrux is its creation, right? So you have to be tearing your soul into pieces while it is created. So, to create a Horcrux in porn, you would have to be doing some sort of an activity that sort of broke your soul a little bit. So I feel like it would probably be at one of those big shiny red carpet events where all the cameras are pointed at me and I just want to be at home watching Netflix. I feel like my soul gets broken a little bit so probably one of my handbags from that nice nondescript barely comes out of the closet. No one
Unknown Speaker 10:34 else thinks about it, you know, put it into the goodie bag. That's you know, it's like, oh, I clitoral lube. That's something I really needed to spit isn't a thing. Exactly. Since we're all nerding out here. I did a little bit of research on you Riley and I found something what that kind of made me fall in love with you when you run a podcast. It's called research when you're just a plain old human on the internet. It's a little bit of stalking. Thanks, but we run a podcast So it's good to find
Alice Vaughn 11:01 so I love how you created your last name for porn. Oh, yeah. Coming from Firefly, right?
Riley Reyes 11:07 Yeah, I had to change it though I haven't been Riley Reynolds in years because there was another Brian Reynolds who is an agent in Florida, who ended up having a very unflattering documentary made about him hot girls wanted. And oh, when I first started in porn, I used the name Riley Reynolds. I was super excited to take the name of Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly. And then I had to change it because I was associated with him and it was not doing well for my brand. So I changed it to a name as close as I could come and I'm Riley Raz, but uh, you did some digging. She was thorough, and I'm sad to have lost my Firefly name. But it was his birth name. And there was a big popular documentary and there was no way I was going to rest my name back from that.
Yvette d'Entremont 11:52 Fair enough. I think I might have seen that one. Was that the documentary on on people looking for models in Russia or am I mixing it up with another creepy documentary It was
Riley Reyes 12:00 a creepy documentary based in Florida and produced by overheated Jones.
Alice Vaughn 12:05 Oh, wait, I know which one you're talking about. That's the one that where they discuss people getting into the industry for about three months. The Florida culture of porn and all of that stuff with it, right? Yeah.
Riley Reyes 12:17 So the agent there is Riley Reynolds of hasi models. No. Yeah. So that is it's actually always interesting. Many people in interviews like So tell me about how you chose your name. And I'm like, I chose the nearest name. I could get to my old name that I wanted.
Alice Vaughn 12:36 Oh, there was a nerd connection. I tried.
Riley Reyes 12:40 I will Firefly is very exciting. I got to see their 20th reunion panel at New York Comic Con so there's that was cool. I can't believe it's
Yvette d'Entremont 12:48 been that long since so many people got so mad about it being canceled.
Riley Reyes 12:52 Yeah, and that was a couple years ago.
Yvette d'Entremont 12:54 It was all foxes fault. A lot of things are all box sorry. You're not sorry. No, I'm not at all. Yeah, that seems fair. I stand by that statement.
Alice Vaughn 13:05 But yeah, so talking about a shitty movie that of how people are treated poorly in the industry, I think can be a decent segue to what you do, which is the wonderful work that APAC does. Why would we actually start by talking a little bit about what a PAC is? Because I'm still learning about it. And event and I are industry adjacent.
Yvette d'Entremont 13:24 Yeah, we consider ourselves you know, not part of, you know, in this and I don't think our audience or most of it is heard about this. So and they should
Riley Reyes 13:32 well, APAC is the adult farmer advocacy committee. We are a small nonprofit, but we are run entirely by and for the performers. So unlike FSC, the free speech coalition, which does amazing things for the industry, but is more representative of producers because that's where they get their funding. We are really, by and for performers exclusively and try to provide them with support resources, education. We also do like lobbying and outreach to lawmakers to help us be better represented on that end.
Alice Vaughn 14:07 That's awesome. I knew it was already a great group when I clicked on the homepage and one of the performers that I saw front and center was Ella darling, whom we love her. Oh, yes, Ella
Riley Reyes 14:17 was on the board for many years. She is no longer but she is still a valued supporter.
Alice Vaughn 14:23 So would you consider a pack a union for performers or just really a resource hub?
Riley Reyes 14:29 We're not a union. We're, we're just an advocacy group. I love the idea of adult performers unionizing. But because we are so disparate, and because we are so varied in our backgrounds, it's hard to get people to unite behind a banner for collective bargaining. So a pack just acts as an advocacy organization, a support organization and a community organization. So what type of specific things do you do for performers, I think our audience would love to hear a few examples here. I'd love to talk about the programs we have. I have recently pioneered a launch of a mentorship program where experienced performers can help newer performers in need, who want to have that kind of community support. We also offer mental health resources. We've got a sign up for group therapy sessions for people in the industry, which we find people need often after a loss in the industry or something else difficult that's going on. And we also provide monthly meetings that are accompanied by some sort of an enriching event. So it'll be a workshop on how to do rope bondage, or it'll be a class on how to handle your taxes or it'll be a community event to support a cause. We just did our pride month meeting, which was to benefit buck angels new charity transform house for recently incarcerated trans folks to help them transition to the next stage of their life. Nice. That was an amazing laundry list of a very wide range of services. We keep busy, and we try to help people with whatever they come to us with people will come to us needing legal support to get out of a situation with an agent. They're no longer happy with people who have come to us. Just for career advice people have come to us and looking to find just community events where they can be close to their fellow performers. We get all kinds of inquiries when we try to help everyone we can we also get inquiries from people who do not belong there like this guy's trying to get into porn or things like that.
Yvette d'Entremont 16:41 We get a lot of those. That's special. And now with sesta fossa have new challenges and new things you need to provide resources to deal with have any of those come up because it says to foster
Riley Reyes 16:55 honestly says to foster has most distinctly impacted People who are doing full service sex work, which is not specifically in our purview as an adult performer organization. But we have found that after sesta fascia, we've been able to form coalition with other sex worker activist groups to great effect. We've been helping to push to get Senate Bill, believe it's 233 passed here in California, which would help full service sex workers, it would not allow them to use condoms as evidence in cases prosecuting sex workers and also gives them immunity from being charged if they come forward about violent crimes they've witnessed or that have been perpetrated against them. Oh, thank God. So that's really cool and has made it through two of the three things that needs to do to get past That's awesome. Now quick question regarding not utilizing condoms as evidence. I'm just curious what the idea rationale behind that as honestly I'm don't understand the rationale behind using them as evidence in Many places in the United States and I'm sure the world just carrying condoms can make you a suspect as someone who sells sex
Alice Vaughn 18:10 Oh, okay. Not a used condom. It just Yes, having a pack of condoms. Oh,
Riley Reyes 18:15 I was thinking DNA testing. So if you are, let's say a trans woman walking in the wrong part of town, and you have condoms on you, they'll use that as evidence that he was a sex worker. Correct. And that is outrageous and encourages unsafe behavior and makes things riskier for those most marginalized and so, APAC is for adult former specifically, but we always try to lend a hand if there are other sex worker causes that we can boost like that. My brain still going you mean having a condom on you can? like yeah, I'll get over that in like two weeks. Yeah, they're really reaching for straws to profile people. Usually trans women of color. real growth. Yeah,
Alice Vaughn 19:01 that's very disappointing. And another thing you mentioned, actually, so going back for a hot second, sometimes even weeding out potentially bad apples, you know, people coming into the industry who really, you know, set their expectations differently, or even maybe directors or persons who may not be acting well. So I'm curious, I know even one of our patrons, Mike sorbetto. He was interested in what might be being done if anything to address bad behavior within the industry. I feel like everybody has had an idea of how mi two has kind of impacted, really everything else. But no one's really talked about what's being done in porn, if anything at all.
Riley Reyes 19:38 I feel like in porn, since it's sort of decentralized, it becomes hard to have any kind of a body that will oversee these sorts of problems. Yeah, the porn industry doesn't have an HR. The closest thing it has is APAC and FSC. And we really fall short of being able to fulfill those duties, having a board that can oversee complaints, provide people with training and gain some kind of justice is a special skill set all in itself, you basically need an HR department to be operating. And we simply don't have one as an industry. And so right now we're operating on pretty much a call out culture and then independent investigations by the production company associated with the director or photographer who had the complaint against them. And those investigations are varying in rigor and in public satisfaction with their accountability, which is shame. I mean, we know that there have been complaints about for instance, James Dean in the past, I mean, some fairly severe complaints and he's performing again and there are some performers that just won't work with the companies that are hiring him. And I don't know if that's fair. I don't know if that's right. That you know, some women are just staying away from potential women. work. I don't want to say that it's mandatory that it be forced out of the industry, but it's very strange. They're like, well, he might have done something that that violates the rules of everything we try to say is happening in sex and should happen in consensual sex, but we're just gonna, we're gonna let that slide like, I don't know what the answer to that is. It's really frustrating that we have no framework for any kind of justice. Really, it's all just vague and decentralized. But ideally, if we could have a framework, I would like I would like it to be one that was based on restorative justice. That makes sense. The allegations that I know of against James were from a while ago, and I certainly I'm not saying they didn't happen, I'm saying, I would like to see a path towards redemption that he could take to reenter the community in a way that was fully accountable, and not just this sort of vague. Well, I guess it's been long enough that he was in timeout. Let's test it again. kind of vibe that I'm getting now. I wish there was something a little more
Yvette d'Entremont 21:59 Yeah, I mean, that's It's okay for when your dog sits on the carpet, but not when a human does it to your industry. And I don't know what the answer is like, Is there an amount of time? Yeah, those are just the things we're struggling with, I guess
Riley Reyes 22:10 I have interacted with him. And I get the impression from interacting with him that he understands why what he did before was wrong and is interested in interacting with the culture in a way that is productive at positive at this point. But at the end of the day, I'm just one person who talked to him a few times. I'd love for there to be a system in place that could actually create a restorative justice structure. Yeah,
Yvette d'Entremont 22:38 exactly. That would be fantastic.
Alice Vaughn 22:40 Yeah, the problem is, especially with cloud culture, it's Yes, you can call out bad behavior, but what is the actionable thing that you can do? The problem is, especially in porn, is that if hypothetically something happens on set, I mean, not only do you not have HR, but if hypothetically, someone does so Non consensual onset to you guys. It's gonna be even harder to hypothetically go to even the cops because
Unknown Speaker 23:05 well, you're a porn actor Didn't you know this is part of the deal?
Alice Vaughn 23:08 Exactly. And that's not okay. At all. Their problem is that they make so many assumptions about you guys as well as the industry itself that you guys get less help than really anyone.
Riley Reyes 23:23 Yeah. Law enforcement doesn't know what to do if one of us tries to come to them with an assault story, because their whole ideas Didn't you get paid to go to set and have sex, and they don't have any kind of understanding of nuance, and there's no way for them to really interact with it. Well, you're saying cops don't understand nuance what what are you saying? You crazy ideas you're having here whole legal system doesn't understand anything involving nuancing consent, like no, it has a lot of trouble even recognizing date rape as a rape because you went out with tend to go on a date. Now, if you showed up on set to a highly stigmatized profession to have sex on camera for a living, the legal system really is not prepared to give you any kind of justice. And so you have to sort of seek it on your own through your community. And that sucks. And it's interesting, because I've heard it's funny people will come to me and say, but Alice, they'll say that you need consent during every step of the wait, like, you know, can I touch you? Can I do this?
Alice Vaughn 24:27 Yeah. Have you ever had sex with someone? I want to ask those people? And to those same people, I kind of want to say like,
Yvette d'Entremont 24:32 what about when I stick a finger in your butthole? Is that okay? I didn't ask. Do I have to as soon as I'm naked? It means I can put anything and anything and not ask according to some people were too shitty,
Riley Reyes 24:44 right? I feel like there's an opportunity on every adult set. Since you guys are industry. Jason, you probably know this. Before every scene you'll have a little quick talk about do's and don'ts. And a lot of times that's your opportunity to communicate that but I think Find a lot, especially with newer performers. They don't even necessarily know what might come up that they are not comfortable with. Yeah, like a newer girl might not realize she has to say, I don't like spit in my face, please. Or don't choke me. Those are things that I know I would have to say if I didn't want them. But a lot of people don't necessarily know what the sandbox that they're playing in looks like what the edges of it are. Yeah, and which things they would have to negotiate before they start doing a scene.
Yvette d'Entremont 25:29 Like I did not know that I did not like canes until the first time tried having someone cane me and it was not pleasant. And I did not like I don't know still if they were just bad at it. How do you know that going in? Or it was just that's how I learned and it would have sucked a lot to find out on a porn set.
Riley Reyes 25:48 I always am fascinated with people who do experimentation on camera for that reason. I know some people like love that they have documented their first and they got to explore on camera. Sophia grace told me that was one Her favorite things about porn is that she gots to all this sexual exploration on camera. I'm just sitting there. What if you didn't like it is so much pressure to
Yvette d'Entremont 26:08 Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a good enough actor to pretend that something's making me feel good when I want to punch the person doing to me in the face. Sorry.
Riley Reyes 26:15 Right. So I think part of the problem is people don't understand what they can negotiate for. I've noticed more and more companies because of this problem, have implemented two things. One of them is for performer on performer concerns what we're talking about right now. And what they've done for that is they've started including a consent checklist for performers, something really simple that just has your physical and your verbal do's and don'ts that performers can fill out before scene for one another. I know gamma is doing this and all these sets and several other companies have started to do this, I think to legally cover their asses, but it's also creating a consent culture that I like to see and I'm excited that it's there.
Alice Vaughn 26:57 I think that's great. However,
Riley Reyes 26:59 a lot of reasons Farmers seem to view it as stupid. Like I've been on set with people who are in philosophic. What do you mean? nicknames? You can't call me I'm like, if you don't want to be called a whore, that's a thing. Like, what do you mean like do's and don'ts and like, well, like, some people don't like to be choked. Some people don't like to be spit on. Some people don't like snowballing. Like, you just just pick the things you don't want to do. And if it's, and they even on the gamma sets require you to write an A, if there's nothing that you want to say, just so that they have a documentation that you had the option to say that. And when they give you this paperwork, they also tell you that you have the right to change your mind at anytime and call cut at any time. If you change your mind about how you feel during the course of the scene, which I think is really a step in the right direction.
Alice Vaughn 27:45 I think that's completely fair. I mean, you could be hypothetically, let's say into choking, but maybe a specific performer is doing it in a way that you don't feel comfortable with them doing that to you. So why not say no, actually, we tried it during the scene. I I'm good. Let's not continue.
Riley Reyes 28:02 Yeah, it's important to be able to retract. This is a win for everyone. Hopefully the culture will start to become more comfortable with this idea of talking about your do's and don'ts. I think it makes a better scene. I think it's hot away, and it will have better sex. If I have a little sheet or I can go. You know what, I don't really like it when you spank me. But like, I would love it if you choked me, and I like things to be really sloppy with lots of spit. Are you comfortable with that? And I think that you get a better scene when people know what each other like, I don't think there's anything bad about you
Yvette d'Entremont 28:34 get excited about things together as opposed to talking someone into it. Crazy thought.
Alice Vaughn 28:40 So actually, this kind of leads into another question that another one of her patrons had. Paul, he mentioned, what do you wish people knew about the porn they consume? And the people who helped make it? I mean, we're kind of getting into the topic of ethical porn, and we always encourage our listeners to pay for your porn. Seriously guys pay for your porn pay for your porn. But in all honesty, people have asked, Well, how do I know what I'm consuming is ethical. I mean, do you have any insight into that?
Riley Reyes 29:11 The best surefire way to know that someone wants to be making the porn you're consuming is to buy the porn that they make themselves subscribed to their only fans buy from their clips for sale, buy it directly from the performer that you like, because that way you know that they're basically just making the porn that they want to make with their buddies. That is a really good piece of insight. Otherwise, I mean, I could list off a bunch of companies that I like and that I've had good experiences with. But honestly, people's experiences vary, and I feel a little bit reticent to project my own experiences onto everybody else. But I'd say just try to go out there and honestly, consuming from the bigger studios or directly from performers is probably the safest CEOs like penthouse or like gamma, who I've been talking so fondly of, like even kink, who had a bit of a rocky start now has really amazing consent work. Any of these more big brands are going to have a more well oiled consent machine and sort of HR department in a way. It's basically big studios or direct from performer and of course, I like direct from performer because that's me, and that's me and my friends having the sex that we want to have, you know, in our apartments and filming it for you guys. And there's something really cool and intimate about that.
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Yvette d'Entremont 32:20 no, stop it. Maybe there is nothing wrong with that and you're asked would make a killing. I'm just saying no, she had a great app.
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Alice Vaughn 32:33 green screens. So Riley, I kind of want more performers to have green screens. Because yes, you could be putting a dildo into your ass. But what if it was on
Yvette d'Entremont 32:45 the moon? I want it to be on the side of Jurassic Park. I want dinosaurs ripping each other to shreds behind your fucking
Riley Reyes 32:52 Oh my God, I should get a green screen. Because I'm obsessed with bad dragon. I've got all these really fun fantasy dildo you're always like, they don't really fit in in my bedroom or my living room or any of the other sets I can rent even like the cool ones it's like a bar or a restaurant or a doctor's office or school they still didn't fit with a bad dragon dildos but I could green screen and all kinds of crazy fantasy shit.
Alice Vaughn 33:15 You could be a guest on Larry King. Oh my god Shut
Yvette d'Entremont 33:19 up. I have a green screen you can borrow? I live in in the dtla area
Riley Reyes 33:24 that's amazing. I'm gonna get my elf ears and all my various monster pillows and show up at your house.
Unknown Speaker 33:30 Oh my god, it's Don't tempt her this is going to happen.
Yvette d'Entremont 33:33 I know when we first moved into this place it's basically the area where our bed is now was once upon a time used as a stage and when we first put the bed on to it because they had not taken down the light and the speakers were like fuck There's our bedroom look like a porn set and I'm I'm a little sad that the lights were taken down like the part of me that's like, I would like a place that looks livable. Thank you is glad that they're down. But like for a while it was like, Can we turn on the red and blue While we're having sex tonight, we have enough lights and everything set up and I'm like when should we start renting this out for porn productions?
Riley Reyes 34:08 Well now you've done it now you're not gonna be able to get rid of me
Yvette d'Entremont 34:11 darn come on over I'll set up a green screen
Alice Vaughn 34:15 Oh, what a shame having Riley come over film a scene? Yeah, come over and do weird stuff. How weird I might be into it. I'll pay for it. We have
Yvette d'Entremont 34:24 whatever you need here. I'll provide the sanitation and the lube. You go to town. I have a really good camera.
Riley Reyes 34:30 Like loudly fisting myself in your home in front of your green screen
Yvette d'Entremont 34:35 define loudly like well the entire house here just the apartment because either way it's great. I just want to know
Riley Reyes 34:41 definitely at least the apartment depends how into it I get I guess. Oh hell yeah.
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Alice Vaughn 34:57 want a demogorgon dick
Riley Reyes 34:59 to have it on. I haven't gotten the demogorgon currently I have a tentacle that glows in the dark. I have a horse stick. I have one of their big thick dragon Dix. It's like It's like a fist in its proportions, which I appreciate. And then I have the Griffin deck, but it also it has come to so I can make it squirt. I want to
Yvette d'Entremont 35:21 who there was one on there that I decided to order, specifically because I'm like, I remember killing that creature in Witcher three. I totally want the dick of it. So if y'all want to know how nerdy I am, that's how I order my dildos have I killed the creature in a nerd video game. Yes, I want the deck there
Alice Vaughn 35:38 come lube looks so much like come it's kind of creepy. I
Riley Reyes 35:42 just got a really great viscosity for anal play to
Yvette d'Entremont 35:46 like oh, I'm ordering
Riley Reyes 35:46 that too. I really appreciate I like I love that I'm just like completely non spawn here like that dragon please notice me let me be here. spokesmodel I believe in you.
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Riley Reyes 36:20 They've been very supportive I think because I put up publicity for them whenever I get a new toy so they've they'll give me discounts as it is. I
Alice Vaughn 36:28 saw someone and I think it was a bad dragon toy. It has to be I'm going back to my brain from like a week ago there was a clip online on Twitter I think it was that either Tommy shared or someone liked. And it was a woman super tiny. Actually Riley she looked a lot like you maybe she was you wasn't you
Yvette d'Entremont 36:51 will find out soon
Alice Vaughn 36:53 find out very quickly. But the point is, it was a tentacle, but it was a huge tentacle. It went up to like boob height. From when she was sitting and that first off concerned to be second off, she was very tiny and she got that all into her ass in one shot just went in
Yvette d'Entremont 37:09 panicle No, it's bigger. It was bigger. It's the reticle I saw that.
Alice Vaughn 37:14 Okay, so number one, how many organs did she have to remove to get that in? You
Riley Reyes 37:20 know, it's really amazing Emily people can accommodate. So yeah, like, honestly, I can fit more badly. But I really respect like intense high level animal training like that. And I really like topping for people who aspire to that level of anal sluttiness. Like, Natalie Mars is amazing as an angel bottom and so is Michael Vegas. They both just, they could really put a lot in there. And I really have fun with that.
Yvette d'Entremont 37:48 I'm just laughing because I love that we're at a type of conversation where we're like, we applaud all the things you stick in your ass for our pleasure. Thank you so much for the expansive work you do literally. Yeah, it's long.
Alice Vaughn 38:00 It really is. And there are people who are like, No, I have the clown car of anuses Oh, it's,
Yvette d'Entremont 38:07 I have nothing to respond with to that.
Unknown Speaker 38:11 You know what, as someone who wants to date a guy with a clown finish, that's the closest I'll get. So that's a read for me.
Yvette d'Entremont 38:18 I tried to lay tech guy clown fetish. I'm like, I look I don't have that much time to put on makeup. Like I say that I wear clown makeup. But like I stopped a little short of like, I've been to a clown themed orgy.
Riley Reyes 38:32 I went to a friend's birthday party in Bushwick. He is really into clowning and had always wanted to have a clown orgy. girl who was dating at the time was sort of a burlesque chick. And he asked for his birthday present to be a clown orgy. And a lot of people in the scene sort of grumbled, so they wouldn't be coming. And he said, I understand. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but this is my birthday. And I really wanted this for so long. And so everyone who went had to Be in costume. I painted my face up and I went to this fantastic clown sex party. Wow, were there different types of clowns it's someone show up as it were their balloons Did someone try making a balloon animal out of a penis
Alice Vaughn 39:12 I need to know and then stick it in an ash
Riley Reyes 39:15 there were balloons I didn't see anyone insert them into anyone. No one went is scary clowns. It was all just sort of designed to be like circus clowns somewhat for the happy clown someone for the sad clown little bit of every Oh, and he got a circle of boobs also was for his birthday present. So we put him in the middle of a circle of us dressed as clowns with our kids out right. He closed his eyes he got spun around really, really fast. And then he opened his eyes again and just like walk towards the first pair of boobs he saw and then he grabbed all the boobs he could and since we were clowns, we all started to each make our own noise for our boobs. So we start like honking rubber.
Yvette d'Entremont 39:50 Yeah. For
Unknown Speaker 39:53 circle of clown
Unknown Speaker 39:53 boobs just a reminder children at home all these things are okay if everyone has consented.
Riley Reyes 39:59 Yeah, and Of course, he asked right before the circle whoops, he said, who would like to come to the this room with me and let me grab their boobs. So we all went to a separate room if that was something we were interested in, okay with.
Alice Vaughn 40:10 Yeah, that's amazing. Um, what other themed orgies? Have you been to? Or have them just not held up to clown orgy?
Yvette d'Entremont 40:19 If you have anything that is tops that I need to know,
Riley Reyes 40:21 that clown orgy was definitely the most funny story about, I think the most impressive one, in terms of world building was a post apocalypse themed one. Oh my god, the guy who threw it created an entire story about post apocalyptic new Brooklyn. He posted all of the events and stories in character as the warlord of post apocalyptic new Brooklyn. I played a character there and helped him throw the party as one of his handmaidens. He had a guard. He had like a whole thing that he staged like later on as he was like going mad with power and see stayed in character. So it was like a post apocalyptic sex party meets LARP at least on his part because he really