Two Dads in Tech

Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk sit down with Aaron Hodes, sales leader, father of two, and lifelong Chicagoan, for one of the most vulnerable and emotionally honest episodes of Two Dads in Tech to date. Aaron opens up about becoming a dad, the loss of independence, and the moment he had a panic attack at work that forced him to confront stress, anxiety, and identity for the first time in his life. This episode dives deep into: The identity shift that comes with fatherhood Why the transition from one kid to two feels overwhelming The invisible mental load carried by parents Therapy, panic attacks, and anxiety in high-pressure careers Tying self-worth to job performance — and breaking that cycle Loneliness while working remotely and the need for community Maintaining friendships as life stages change Aging parents, grief, and realizing they’re not invincible Gratitude, reflection, and loving people while you still can This conversation is raw, reflective, and deeply relatable — especially for dads, professionals, and anyone quietly carrying more than they let on. — 🕒 Detailed Show Notes (0:00) Cold open & behind-the-scenes chaos (1:00) Introducing Aaron Hodes (2:45) Family background, marriage & becoming a dad (3:40) Identity loss and independence after kids (4:30) The unseen labor of parenting (5:10) Going from one kid to two — “zone defense to man-to-man” (6:20) Scheduling life around children (7:00) Gratitude for family support systems (8:30) Fitness, routines & mental health anchors (9:45) Loneliness while working remotely (10:30) Finding community as a dad in sales (11:45) Back injury after second child & mental overload (12:50) Carrying responsibility for work, kids, and marriage (14:00) Friendships changing with life stages (16:00) Being intentional with time and relationships (18:00) Therapy, CBT & separating self-worth from work (20:30) The panic attack at work — what it felt like (22:30) Anxiety hitting for the first time as an adult (24:00) Aging parents & realizing they’re not invincible (26:30) Grief, grandparents, and unconditional love (29:00) Gratitude as a daily practice (31:00) Loving people loudly and without hesitation (33:00) Final reflections & where to find Aaron — 🔗 Links • Aaron Hodes – https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronhodes/ • Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech – https://twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964

Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk are joined by Brendan Hufford, founder of Growth Sprints, B2B SaaS content strategist, and father of four boys, for one of the most grounded and honest conversations yet on Two Dads in Tech. This episode isn’t about hacks or software, it’s about doing the work that actually matters. Brendan shares what it’s really like to build a successful company after leaving teaching, while raising four boys, showing up as a husband, and confronting the constant feeling of falling short, in fitness, family, faith, and focus. They dive deep into: Why marriage and parenting require intentional effort, not autopilot How kids mirror your habits faster than your advice The guilt-driven fuel many high performers run on, and why it breaks down Learning to work on your marriage instead of just existing inside it Morning routines, chaos, and leading a household of boys Therapy, self-awareness, and unlearning unhealthy motivation Faith as something woven into life, not forced or performative What Brendan refuses to repeat from his own upbringing The single piece of advice every dad and husband needs to hear This is a conversation about presence over perfection, effort over optics, and why the hardest work in life usually happens after business hours. — 🕒 Detailed Show Notes (0:00) New direction for Two Dads in Tech & focusing on human impact (1:15) Listener feedback: why stories matter more than software (2:00) Introducing Brendan Hufford (Growth Sprints, father of four) (3:00) Sports banter & Caleb Williams discussion (4:10) “How did you get here?” — life, family, business (7:30) Moving to Chicago & early career decisions (10:00) From teaching to B2B SaaS content strategy (12:30) Knowledge sharing vs selling online (16:45) Morning routines in a house with four boys (18:30) Kids mirroring habits (nail-biting story) (22:40) Marriage as work — not autopilot (23:30) Why most couples stop actively working on their marriage (27:30) Making more money but still feeling behind (31:00) Guilt as fuel — and why it’s dangerous long term (33:00) Therapy, introspection, and healthier motivation (36:00) Faith woven into life, not imposed (43:45) What not to repeat from your upbringing (47:00) Advice for dads and husbands (50:30) Journaling, reflection, and self-awareness (52:00) Where to find Brendan & final reflections — 🔗 Links • Brendan Hufford – https://brendanhufford.com • Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech – https://twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 #twodadsintech #fatherhood #marriage #parenting #podcast #dads #family #relationships #growth #mindset #business #life

Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk ring in the New Year with one of the most honest and reflective episodes of Two Dads in Tech yet. After 56 straight weeks of publishing, the dads look back on what consistency actually costs—and what it gives back. From parenting seasons and marriage growth to audience-building, faith, and choosing joy in the middle of stress, this episode captures what it really looks like to build something slowly and intentionally. They talk openly about: Why consistency matters more than talent The episode that changed how they think about parenting and technology Letting go of perfection and just showing up Faith as a lived value, not a talking point Parenting seasons, patience, and learning to truly support your partner What happens when your kids reflect your behavior back to you Why audience-building compounds faster than almost anything else How Two Dads in Tech quietly became a real business Stress vs joy—and learning which one deserves your attention This is a year-end / New Year’s episode about momentum, reflection, and staying the course—even when you don’t fully know where it’s leading. — 🕒 Detailed Show Notes (0:00) New Year’s Eve energy & 365 days passing (1:00) December birthdays & parenting realities (2:20) Holidays, exhaustion & returning to work (3:50) Doing a year-in-review for Two Dads in Tech (4:20) The most impactful episode of the year (Nir Eyal) (5:30) Parenting vs technology & practical boundaries (7:00) Saying the hard things—and when a story needs its own episode (8:30) Sharing personal history & speaking openly (10:00) Faith as a lived part of life (11:20) Gratitude for the podcast team & operational consistency (13:00) When the podcast felt like a chore—and why that’s normal (14:30) Discovering the episodes that truly energize them (15:30) Why consistency comes before clarity (16:30) Parenting seasons & giving your partner freedom back (18:00) Kids being sick & patience as a daily practice (20:00) A child calling out unhealthy communication (22:00) Marriage, respect & modeling behavior for kids (24:30) Being more present—phones down, attention up (26:00) Owning parenting responsibilities with confidence (27:30) Where they fall short as dads & partners (29:00) Simple at-home dates & quality time (31:00) Professional wins & audience leverage (32:30) Building real revenue from community (34:30) Stress vs joy—and choosing perspective (36:00) Gratitude, reflection & Happy New Year — 🔗 Links • Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964

Troy Munson and Daniel Berk close out the year with one of the most honest and wide-ranging episodes of Two Dads in Tech yet. What starts as chaotic humor, Mad Libs, AI-generated chaos, and dad jokes, quickly turns into a serious conversation about technology addiction, the metaverse, robots in our homes, and how much of life we’re quietly giving away to comfort. In this episode, they talk about: Why technology consumes more of our lives than we realize How the metaverse and virtual worlds are closer than we think Robots living inside homes, and the privacy implications Elon Musk, extreme wealth, and the Mars debate Global warming, flooding cities, and living with environmental reality Social media dependence and why walking away isn’t that simple What they want to leave behind in 2025 Choosing discomfort, intentional living, and real experiences over convenience Vision boards, bucket lists, and redefining success as parents This is a reflective, end-of-year episode about slowing down, asking better questions, and being more intentional with technology, time, and life — one conversation at a time. — 🕒 Detailed Show Notes (0:00) Mad Libs chaos & AI-generated nonsense (2:30) Humor, absurdity & why play matters (5:00) Kids, parenting stories & real-life chaos (8:30) The metaverse and online-only relationships (10:00) Why we’re closer to virtual worlds than we think (12:30) Robots inside homes & privacy concerns (14:30) Elon Musk, wealth & colonizing Mars (16:00) Sponsor: Zapier & automations (19:30) Extreme wealth vs real-world problems (20:00) Global warming & flooding cities like Charleston (22:40) “What are you leaving behind in 2025?” (25:00) The comfort trap & technology addiction (27:30) Choosing discomfort intentionally (28:30) Solo hikes, disconnecting & mental clarity (30:00) Vision boards & redefining success (32:30) Why vulnerable episodes resonate most (34:40) Making the world slightly better, one episode at a time (35:00) Merry Christmas & year-end wrap-up — 🔗 Links • Get started with Zapier now: https://bit.ly/4ooQhlb • Daniel Berk – / danielberk • Troy Munson – / troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter –

Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk return with one of the most wide-ranging and thought-provoking episodes of Two Dads in Tech yet. It starts with a hot take: ChatGPT may not live up to the hype. From there, the conversation expands into the evolving AI race, why tools like Gemini are quietly outperforming expectations, and how AI is reshaping creativity, design, data analysis, and content creation. But this episode goes deeper. The dads unpack the Dead Internet Theory, fake engagement, AI-generated comments, and why it’s becoming harder to tell what — and who — is real online. They talk openly about LinkedIn burnout, creator exhaustion, and the pressure to perform authenticity instead of living it. Along the way, they explore: Why brand power (Roomba, Band-Aid, Kleenex) outlives innovation How AI is unlocking creativity for non-technical people The difference between being busy and actually moving your life forward Why most people build lives they can tolerate, not lives they want The importance of journaling, habits, and mental health check-ins Why asking friends “are you okay?” matters more than ever This episode blends AI, philosophy, mental health, and modern life into a brutally honest conversation about where we’re headed — and how to stay human along the way. — 🕒 Detailed Show Notes (0:00) Hot take: ChatGPT may not live up to the hype (1:00) Roomba, bankruptcy & brand saturation (2:00) Competition kills novelty — AI parallels (3:00) Gemini vs ChatGPT: real usage comparisons (4:00) AI image & video generation gets scary good (5:00) Using AI for thumbnails, design & creativity (6:00) AI empowering non-technical creators (8:30) The Dead Internet Theory explained (10:00) Fake engagement, bots & AI comments (12:00) Can social media survive authenticity fatigue? (14:00) LinkedIn burnout & algorithm obsession (16:00) Why real communities beat platforms (19:30) Being busy vs making progress (21:30) Building a life you tolerate vs a life you want (23:00) Sponsor: Zapier & automations (26:00) Brand names becoming everyday language (28:30) TikTok tragedy & mental health reminders (30:00) Men bottling emotions & journaling (33:00) Habits vs your “true self” (35:00) Fitting in vs being authentic (38:30) Final reflections & community call-to-action — 🔗 Links • Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964

Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk are back with one of the most thought-provoking episodes of Two Dads in Tech yet. It starts with a simple question: if $30,000 hit your account right now and you had 24 hours to spend it—what would you actually do? But quickly, the conversation turns into something much bigger. From widening driveways and buying Jeep Wranglers, to traveling across Europe, living in Spain, dreaming about Tokyo, and questioning what retirement really means, this episode dives deep into meaning, community, faith, and personal values. The dads explore: Why retirement isn’t about stopping work—but choosing meaningful work Travel as a tool for perspective, not escape Why real language learning only happens through discomfort Meditation, prayer, and staying grounded in a hyper-connected world Parenting without forcing beliefs—and allowing kids to choose their own path Why assuming positive intent makes the world better (with boundaries) The danger of avoiding life’s hardest questions This is an episode about slowing down, thinking deeper, and choosing intentionality—in parenting, belief systems, and everyday life. — 🕒 Detailed Show Notes (0:00) Cold open and chaotic banter (1:30) Widening driveways, home projects & the $30k problem (3:00) The rule: 24 hours to spend $30,000 (4:00) Travel vs stuff—Europe is cheaper than you think (6:00) Spain, Portugal, Italy & the digital nomad pipeline (7:30) What “retirement before 40” actually means (9:00) Building community instead of chasing money (10:30) Living abroad vs owning property (12:00) Cities with water, mountains & culture (Hong Kong, Seattle) (14:00) Meditation, prayer & grounding practices (16:00) Jeep Wranglers, community, and “Jeep ducking” (20:00) Traveling with kids & why Tokyo feels different (23:00) Language learning through immersion (China & Spain stories) (26:00) Why Duolingo won’t make you fluent (27:30) Raising kids with values—without forcing belief (30:00) Studying religion, culture & philosophy (32:00) Assuming positive intent (without being naïve) (35:00) Why discomfort is necessary for meaning (38:00) Avoiding life’s biggest questions (41:00) Cliffhangers, philosophy & wrap-up — 🔗 Links • Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 #twodadsintech #podcast #life #parenting #fatherhood #meaning #travel #faith #mindset #values #community #dads

Troy Munson – LinkedIn and Daniel Berk – LinkedIn celebrate one year of Two Dads in Tech — 52 weeks of honest conversations about tech, fatherhood, marriage, mental health, and what it really means to balance it all. In this milestone episode, they unpack everything from back injuries and parenting chaos to toxic masculinity, suicide prevention, and the strange world of going viral online. They also talk openly about: The fear that “my kids will think I worked too much” Why men struggle to talk about mental health and emotions Breaking toxic masculinity and redefining what strength means How creating online leads to unexpected opportunities Parenting exhaustion, brushing teeth battles & dad guilt Using tools like Zapier & Beehiiv to power content & growth It’s raw, funny, honest, and deeply human — exactly what Two Dads in Tech has been for a year straight. • Daniel Berk’s LinkedIn – / danielberk • Troy Munson’s LinkedIn – / troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8F... • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Get started with Zapier now: https://bit.ly/4ooQhlb (0:00) Sponsor: Zapier & automation for creators (1:00) Back pain, holidays & getting old (3:00) Diet, inflammation & dad health hacks (4:00) Parenting fear — “My kids will think I worked too much” (7:00) Redefining masculinity: protectors, not suppressors (9:00) Teaching sons emotional intelligence (13:00) Suicide awareness & men’s mental health (

Welcome to episode 51 of Two Dads in Tech — packed with laughter, honesty, and the occasional deep thought between bites of turkey. From debating whether turkey is overrated, to the funniest and pettiest things they’re thankful for, to family traditions and awkward dinner questions — this episode has everything you love about Two Dads in Tech: humor, vulnerability, and genuine human connection. They also touch on: Why Thanksgiving dinners are secretly surface-level (and that’s okay) What questions actually spark good family conversations The art of embracing embarrassment Learning how to open up emotionally as men and dads How gratitude evolves with age and kids The truth about public speaking fears and personal growth This episode is equal parts hilarious and heartfelt — a reminder that sometimes, the best conversations happen around the dinner table. 🕒 Show Notes (0:00) Thanksgiving vibes & family plans (1:10) Is turkey actually overrated? (3:00) What is “confit” and why does Troy know this? (5:00) Meeting LinkedIn friends IRL (7:00) Daniel’s rise on X (Twitter) and viral moments (10:00) The problem with online opinions (12:00) The “Top 10 Thanksgiving Questions” game (16:00) Replacing old traditions with new ones (18:00) The pettiest things we’re thankful for (20:00) Serious vs funny family conversations (22:00) Opening up emotionally and learning to express yourself (25:00) Favorite quotes and personal mantras (27:00) Potato debates: mashed vs baked vs tots (29:00) Health habits, less alcohol, more time (33:00) Quick-fire life questions: marriage, money & mindset (36:00) Gratitude, family, and getting older 🔗 Links • Daniel Berk’s LinkedIn – / danielberk • Troy Munson’s LinkedIn – / troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Spotify –

Troy Munson and Daniel Berk – dive deep into beehiiv’s biggest update yet — the Winter Release Event — and break down how it’s completely reshaping the creator economy. From websites, link-in-bio pages, and AI web builders to digital products, native ads, and automation — beehiiv is becoming the all-in-one operating system for creators, businesses, and media companies. Daniel, who works at beehiiv, walks through how the platform evolved from a simple email tool to a complete content ecosystem, while Troy shares what it’s like using beehiiv firsthand for Two Dads in Tech and Eat With Troy. They cover: Why beehiiv is replacing tools like Substack, Mailchimp & Patreon. How creators are using beehiiv to launch full businesses. The truth about migrating from other platforms. How beehiiv’s new AI website builder and analytics work. The secret to list hygiene, onboarding, and email automation success. The rise of the “Content Economy” — and why beehiiv wants to own it. This is the episode for anyone building an audience, starting a media company, or creating a newsletter in 2025. — 🕒 Show Notes (0:00) What is beehiiv? & the Winter Release Event recap (1:20) The Apple-style keynote & major product launches (3:00) New tools — websites, link-in-bio, dynamic content, and AI web builder (4:00) Native ad network + web analytics (6:00) beehiiv as the “operating system” for the content economy (8:00) Who beehiiv is (and isn’t) for — perfect ICP breakdown (11:00) Media companies, creators, and SaaS businesses using beehiiv (13:00) Migration from Mailchimp, Substack, etc. (15:00) Free plan, trials & how to profit from beehiiv (16:00) How to monetize newsletters the right way (18:00) List hygiene, domain reputation, and best email practices (20:00) Automations, drip sequences, and onboarding tips (22:00) Competing with Patreon and the power of Stripe (24:00) beehiiv’s future roadmap — podcasting & full creator OS (26:00) Agency partners, onboarding, and support (28:00) How to start today + beehiiv resources — 🔗 Links Get started on beehiiv: https://www.beehiiv.com/?via=ccef5a beehiiv’s Winter Release Event: • beehiiv Winter Release 2025 | Full Event Very Good Newsletters on beehiiv: https://www.goodnewsletters.io/ Very Good Websites on beehiiv: https://www.goodwebsites.io/ Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8F... Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...

Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk return for a fast-paced, idea-filled episode of Two Dads in Tech. From mass layoffs at Amazon to side projects going viral, this conversation captures the modern tech dad experience — trying to build something real while the world keeps changing. Troy shares how his new project Eat with Troy blew up to 200 K views and free restaurant deals in a week, while Daniel accidentally created a 10,000-member running community in 24 hours. They dig into: Why tech layoffs might actually spark the next wave of creators. How to launch a viral side project in under a minute. What most founders get wrong about content and authenticity. Building family rhythms around work, hobbies, and travel. It’s the perfect blend of startup energy, dad banter, and creator mindset — a reminder that you don’t need permission to build something great. — 🕒 Show Notes (0:00) Audio chaos and Amazon layoffs (2:00) At-will employment and why it’s brutal in America (5:00) Starting Eat with Troy — best wings in Wisconsin (7:00) AI tools and comment scraping for restaurant ratings (8:00) Going viral overnight — 200 K views in 4 days (10:00) How founders lose their voice on the internet (12:30) Why being “uncomfortable” online is a good sign (14:00) Creating Runners of ECS — 1,000 members in 24 hours (16:00) Merch, branding, and why good swag matters (18:00) Parent moments — snow, skiing, and dad adventures (20:00) Running half marathons & training through sickness (24:00) Marathon plans and consistency as a mindset (26:00) Trips, vacations, and family balance (32:00) Daniel’s brother — professional poker player (38:00) Fatherhood, travel, and supportive partners (40:00) Palmetto Parents growth and newsletter tactics (42:00) Closing thoughts and big plans for 2026 — 🔗 Links • Daniel Berk’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai #twodadsintech #fatherhood #tech #entrepreneurship #layoffs #creator #startups #viralcontent #parenting #business #sidehustle #podcast #founderstory #dadlife

Troy Munson https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk –https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk return with one of the most vulnerable and powerful conversations yet on Two Dads in Tech. For the first time, Troy opens up about the night he lost his best friend in a tragic drunk driving accident at 17 — a story that changed his life forever. From growing up without a father to becoming one himself, Troy reflects on grief, guilt, and how loss shaped the way he sees love, fatherhood, and the value of time. Daniel guides him through memories of a rough childhood, abusive stepfathers, disconnection, resilience, and healing, leading to a brutally honest reflection on fear of death, PTSD, and parenting with empathy. This isn’t just a story about tragedy — it’s about what comes after. How one moment can redefine how you show up as a husband, a father, and a human. If you’ve ever lost someone, struggled with guilt, or wondered how to turn pain into perspective, this episode will stay with you long after it ends. — 🕒 Show Notes (0:00) Cold open – new background & office talk (4:30) Daniel’s Co-working dream & podcast studio idea (5:30) Anthony’s episode recap & framing this conversation (6:00) Childhood: no father, tough stepdad, and early struggles (8:00) Family, addiction, and growing up around trauma (10:00) Escaping chaos and learning resilience (14:00) Finding out his biological dad died — 6 months later (17:00) Moving to Connecticut, quitting sports, becoming shy (21:00) Teenage years, first love, rebellion, and risky choices (22:00) The night everything changed — “He died on my lap.” (25:00) Processing trauma, loss, and survivor’s guilt (27:00) PTSD, fear, and learning to trust again (31:00) Premonition — “Don’t get into a black car.” (33:00) Fear of death, parenting, and finding purpose (36:00) College, marriage, and moving forward (41:00) Lessons for his kids — honesty, safety, empathy (44:00) Final reflections — what really matters as a parent — 🔗 Links • Daniel Berk’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk –https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk dive deep into one of the most real conversations any parent can have: are we parenting in fear? From the growing backlash against gentle parenting to the pressure of raising resilient kids in a chaotic world, this episode pulls zero punches. They talk about toddler meltdowns, regret, comparison culture, and why so many millennial parents secretly feel like they’re failing — even when they’re not. The dads open up about burnout, guilt, and mental health, tackling questions like: Are modern parents too afraid to let their kids fail? Is social media making us worse moms and dads? Why do most fathers struggle to ask for help? They also share raw stories about sleepless nights, career regrets, feeling disconnected, and the loneliness of modern parenthood — with some needed humor on Love Is Blind, Costco rage, and irrational pet peeves to keep things real. This episode is equal parts gut punch and therapy session, a reminder that every parent is figuring it out — and that talking about it might be the most important step. — 🕒 Show Notes (0:00) Intro, banter & Donald Duck impressions 🦆 (0:30) The end of “gentle parenting”? (1:20) Gen Z parents and the return of discipline (3:00) Why every dad loses it sometimes (and how to step away) (7:00) Toddler sleep PTSD & newborn chaos (10:00) Parenting guilt and the “I got this” trap (13:00) Love Is Blind, physical attraction & modern relationships (20:00) Building your utopia: bonfires, lakes, and no mosquitoes (24:00) Irrational anger: Costco, liberals & slow walkers (27:00) Biggest regrets: career, parenting, and lost time (34:00) Tech distractions, viral moments & being present (36:00) Fear-driven parenting & comparison culture (40:00) Advice for struggling parents: just tell someone (44:00) Dad support groups, mental health, and real connection (46:00) Closing thoughts & partnership invites — 🔗 Links • Daniel Berk’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai #twodadsintech #parenting #fatherhood #mentalhealth #parenting2025 #parentingadvice #gentleparenting #burnout #comparisonculture #dadlife #techdads #modernfatherhood #family #relationships #marriage #parentingtips

Episode 46: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk open up about midlife shifts, burnout, and finding meaning beyond work. From Troy’s recent Dimmo pivot to raw conversations about mental health, selfishness vs. self-care, and why life behind a screen can feel empty, this episode hits deep. The dads get vulnerable about identity, parenting, and the quiet weight many people carry but never voice. What starts as a business update turns into an unfiltered look at purpose, loss, and what really matters when the noise stops. — Show Notes: (0:00) Launch day: Troy breaks down Dimmo’s pivot and new focus (0:45) The grind of startup life without big marketing budgets (1:30) What’s actually working in outbound today (3:30) Social algorithms, LinkedIn reach, and why virality can feel fake (5:00) Beehive’s story and how email is being reinvented (6:30) The power of organic impressions and building real audiences (7:00) Do audiences matter outside of tech? (Reddit, Quora, X) (8:00) The attention economy—are we leaving it or just renaming it? (9:30) Why “eyeballs = revenue” still rules every platform (11:00) Reddit as the last honest corner of the internet (12:00) Coffee, burnout, and managing ADHD during the grind (13:00) Troy’s routine change that killed his afternoon crash (14:00) Running, training, and the mental game of staying disciplined (16:00) Moab 240, ultras, and the insanity of endurance athletes (19:00) Why some pain is chosen—and some isn’t worth it (20:00) The case for being “selfishly healthy” as a parent and partner (21:00) Putting mental health first so you can show up for others (22:00) The fine line between balance and burnout (24:00) Marriage, faith, and where selfishness crosses into neglect (26:00) Early mornings, exhaustion, and the cost of self-discipline (27:00) TikTok tears: the story that broke Troy (28:00) Midlife reflections: am I living the right way? (29:00) Escaping screens, chasing sunsets, and booking spontaneous trips (31:00) Grief, loss, and remembering people are hurting silently (33:00) Teaching empathy to your kids through small actions (34:00) Why gratitude hits harder after you cry (35:00) A new podcast idea: talking to random people about what they’re going through (36:00) Suicide awareness and how often “the signs” don’t show (38:00) Why men need more spaces to talk about what’s real (39:00) Reconsidering what Two Dads in Tech could become (40:00) Closing reflections: impact, purpose, and what comes next — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Episode 45: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – get brutally honest about parenting, burnout, and the fine line between patience and losing it. From gentle parenting and “aggressive dad moments” to marriage dynamics, comparison culture, and raising kids in a world of fear, this episode is raw, funny, and deeply relatable. They open up about moments they’re not proud of, what keeps them grounded, and how to stay sane while raising tiny humans in the chaos of tech and modern life. — Show Notes: (0:00) Welcome back! Gentle parenting vs. real-world parenting (0:55) The new survey: 54% of Gen Z parents say “no” to gentle parenting (2:10) Defining “gentle,” “aggressive,” and everything in between (5:00) Boiling points: when you have to step away before losing it (7:00) Sleepless nights, toddler chaos, and the mental toll on parents (10:00) The car scream test: surviving newborn cries while driving (12:15) Why people without kids will never really get it (13:00) Love Is Blind, attraction, and the psychology of relationships (17:00) Can emotional connection create physical attraction? (20:30) Building your “utopia” – what stays, what goes, and what drives you nuts (24:00) Irrational anger: Costco aisle people, liberals, and slow walkers (27:00) Stubborn people and the danger of being “always right” (28:00) Biggest career regrets – leaving too early, chasing salary, starting too late (29:30) Parenting regrets – being present vs. just being there (34:00) Why tech and distraction are stealing parenting moments (36:00) Is fear driving modern parenting? (37:00) Comparison culture and social media’s impact on raising kids (39:00) Helicopter parents and kids facing the real world (40:00) Advice for struggling parents: tell someone (43:00) Dad support groups, community, and finding people who get it (44:00) Why men need to talk more about mental health (45:00) Building community without burning out (46:00) Closing thoughts: empathy, honesty, and what’s next — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Troy Munson and Daniel Berk break down the two biggest tech revolutions of 2025 — OpenAI’s Sora 2 and Vibe Coding — and what they mean for creators, coders, and the future of work. From AI-generated movies to apps that can build themselves from a single sentence, this episode dives into how prompting is becoming the new superpower — and why the next billion-dollar company might be written, not coded. They also debate whether Sora will kill TikTok, whether Hollywood can survive AI, and if real human creativity still matters when machines can make everything look perfect. Between hot takes, dad jokes, and future startup ideas (including energy-efficient prompts and AI power grids), this is one of the most mind-bending Two Dads in Tech episodes yet. If you care about AI, the future of coding, or just want to know how close we are to AGI running the world — this episode will leave your brain spinning. — 🕒 Show Notes (0:00) Cold open – AI drama & dad banter (0:30) The Sora launch: cinematic AI videos that feel real (4:00) Will Sora replace TikTok and Instagram? (6:00) How can we tell what’s real anymore? (7:30) “The future of work is whoever writes the best prompt” (9:00) Can AI-generated media ever replace human connection? (10:10) The rise of Sora creators and AI influencers (15:00) Why AI art still needs human meaning (20:00) “We’ve already been played” – the illusion of real content online (25:00) Vibe Coding explained: building apps just by typing (27:00) The Lovable Cloud and how it kills backend engineering (29:00) The next billion-dollar idea: power grids, data centers & prompt efficiency (36:00) AI jokes, dad duties, and rapid-fire questions (39:00) “Would you fight 100 duck-sized Elon Musks?” 🦆 (40:00) Wrap-up: The human side of AI, creativity, and chaos — 🔗 Links • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8F... • Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Episode 43: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk - https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk flip the script for a forward-looking episode on technology, parenting, and the moral compass of the next generation. From asking how AI will improve kids’ lives, to exploring connection in a digital-first world, to unpacking the risks of peer pressure, catfishing, and moral drift, this one spans the hopeful and the heavy. They cover everything from the metaverse and online friendships, to pediatric AI, Theranos déjà vu, and even why landscaping might be the ultimate fallback plan. Equal parts thoughtful, funny, and grounded in real dad life—this is Two Dads in Tech at their most future-focused. — Show Notes: (0:00) Birthday wishes and flipping the script on tech’s impact (0:26) How AI could improve kids’ lives, not just harm them (1:14) From libraries to ChatGPT: what learning looks like now (3:44) Starting a business with AI—from names to logos (5:02) Connection in the age of FaceTime vs. lost letters in WWII (6:45) Troy & Daniel’s friendship—never meeting IRL but real nonetheless (8:34) Gen Z & Gen Alpha: online-first friendships and future peer groups (9:59) Why the metaverse flopped—and why AI adoption changes everything (13:12) Philosophy thought experiment: when does a chair stop being the same chair? (14:45) Catfishing, self-presentation, and versions of “you” in different settings (17:23) Skateboarding, peer pressure, and the dangers of belonging (19:27) What will peer pressure look like in 2035? (21:29) Shifting moral compasses and the speed of social change (23:14) Parenting kids’ moral compasses in a dark internet age (25:28) The art of disconnecting—detachment, Opal app, and phone blocking (27:58) Tech backlash: will kids rebel against laptops like we rebelled against books? (33:09) AI in pediatric health care: opportunities and risks (37:04) Theranos: fraud, prison, and was it just before its time? (39:22) AI agents, automation, and the future of work (40:47) Landscaping as the ultimate fallback career (42:45) Half marathons, training advice, and running apps (43:53) Shoutout to Momentous: protein, collagen peptides, recovery (44:35) Tango AI: automating sales workflows and end-of-quarter grind (45:15) Parenting solo: Troy’s weekend with both kids (46:06) DoorDash tiramisu and late-night dad wins (46:41) Wrapping up, gratitude, and looking ahead to 52 episodes — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk return for one of the rawest Two Dads in Tech episodes yet. From the shock of watching traumatic world events unfold online, to the weight of polarization in America, to the very real personal cost of chasing success—this conversation pulls no punches. They dig into trauma, health, equity, time management, and even the eerie possibilities of digitizing human consciousness. Equal parts heavy, honest, and hopeful, it’s a look at fatherhood, tech, and mental health when the world feels upside down. — Show Notes: (0:00) Cold open: “I quit” and starting mid-conversation (0:22) Banter, birthdays, and shoutouts (1:50) Processing a heavy week in America (3:10) Polarization, faith, and feeling unsafe (5:01) Why this week “happened to me” vs. just the world (6:14) Accidentally watching traumatic videos online (7:23) Real-life trauma flashbacks and PTSD triggers (8:43) Collective group-mind reactions and viral responses (10:03) Polarization: saint or devil narratives (10:34) V for Vendetta, movements, and amplified voices (12:28) History lens: superpowers, cycles, and U.S. division (14:08) Why America has never been fully “united” (16:07) Are we a healthy country? Defining the terms (17:27) Humans are becoming less healthy, not more (19:06) Knowledge is power—and apathy (21:23) Inequity, access, and why Flint still matters (23:13) The personal cost of chasing success (25:12) Fatherhood pressure not to miss moments (26:12) Mental health sacrifices for startup grind (28:09) Why yoga, prayer, and “wasting time” are life hacks (29:31) Time management, Elon’s 5-minute rule, and wasted blocks (31:22) Why consistency beats bursts of productivity (32:23) Cryogenics, ethics, and digitizing consciousness (34:12) Coping vs. reality when recreating loved ones digitally (35:45) Movie recs: Goosebumps and Transcendence (36:02) Sponsor Momentous: protein, creatine, collagen peptides (37:07) Wrapping up: why this episode may have more nuggets than most — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Episode 39: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – sit down with Scott Leese – https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottleese – for one of the rawest and most vulnerable conversations yet. From surviving nine surgeries and an opioid addiction, to building billion-dollar startups and walking away from easy LinkedIn money, Scott opens up about resilience, authenticity, and the grind of sales. This episode dives into chronic pain, consulting truths, fatherhood fears, and why balance is harder—and more important—than ever. Equal parts battle story and blueprint, it’s a must-listen for anyone chasing success without losing themselves along the way. — Show Notes: (0:00) WWE-style intro for Scott Leese (2:24) Breaking down his consulting scope: sales, ops, recruiting, coaching (6:09) Authenticity on LinkedIn and walking away from thousands per post (9:38) Protecting reputation before money changes who you are (12:00) Scott’s hospital years: autoimmune disease, surgeries, and survival (14:27) Opioid addiction and going cold turkey at 27 (16:16) From near death to sales: why startups were his lifeline (20:29) PTSD, chronic pain, and the fear of leaving kids fatherless (22:10) Fatherhood, health scares, and changing priorities (25:13) Cold plunges, saunas, and 41 food allergies (27:00) Grounding rituals and staying even-keeled in business (33:17) Consulting truths: urgency, feedback, and big-market bets (39:01) The unicorn that gave him freedom to go solo (41:20) Lessons he wishes he’d learned earlier about aiming bigger (42:58) Feeling “almost accomplished” and launching a landscaping biz (44:33) The comparison trap, stoicism, and keeping perspective (46:16) Biggest advice: shrink the delta between idea and action (48:04) How much is a LinkedIn account really worth? (50:57) Instagram success: $300K in consulting from a new channel — Links: • Scott Leese’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottleese • Daniel Berk’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Episode 38: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – sit down with Nir Eyal – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyal – for a deep dive into distraction, focus, and fatherhood. From the famous “superpower story” with his daughter, to why attention is the skill of the century, Nir unpacks how to control your time, your triggers, and your tech. The conversation covers parenting in the age of screens, the difference between use and abuse, and how AI might reshape learning and family life. Plus: reconciling Hooked and Indistractable, building better habits, and why being present is the ultimate superpower. — Show Notes: (0:00) Welcoming Nir Eyal, author of Hooked and Indistractable (1:15) The “superpower story” that changed how Nir views attention (3:55) Tech vs. parenting: when phones compete with kids (6:00) Why attention—not information—is the true skill of the century (10:20) Stories of millennial parenting and putting devices down (13:00) The 7-day digital disconnect challenge for families (14:20) Screen time vs. screen abuse: making the distinction (19:30) Internal triggers and why distraction starts within (27:30) How Nir uses AI for writing, notes, and parenting perspectives (30:00) The future of learning, AI, and education reform (36:00) Sponsor shoutout: Momentus supplements (36:30) Nir on handling distraction spirals in real time (45:20) Reconciling Hooked vs. Indistractable: use vs. misuse (48:45) Closing gratitude and where to find Nir online — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Nir Eyal's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyal • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai — Learn More About Nir: • Check out his book: http://geni.us/indistractable • Indistractable bonus content: http://www.nirandfar.com/indistractable/ • Indistractable summary article: https://www.nirandfar.com/skill-of-the-future/ • Timeboxing article: https://www.nirandfar.com/timeboxing/ • Values article: https://www.nirandfar.com/common-values/ • Free habit tracker tool: https://www.nirandfar.com/habit-tracker/ • Free schedule maker tool: https://www.nirandfar.com/schedule-maker/ • List of top articles: https://www.nirandfar.com/best-articles/

Episode 36: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – go raw and unfiltered on friends, faith, family, and tech. From why making “parent friends” feels like dating, to the loneliness vs. longevity debate of friendships, to whether kids today can still have a childhood without screens, this one swings from vulnerable to hilarious. They open up about religion, rebellion, legacy, and what it really means to live without tech (spoiler: it involves mowing lawns). Plus: Amish cabinets, TikTok golf kids, and whether leaving a ‘public legacy’ is actually overrated. — Show Notes: (0:00) Leaf blowers, protein shakes, and jumping straight in (2:00) Do friends actually make you happy—or can family be enough? (5:54) Deep friendships and the science of living longer (7:35) Parenting, daycare drop-offs, and the awkward art of making couple friends (10:58) Music in the park, golf buddies, and social media friend hacks (12:58) Facebook groups and finding lifelong “Sean and Ashton” friends (14:01) Nostalgia for playing outside vs. today’s tech-saturated childhoods (16:20) Tech exhaustion and apps that lock you out for sanity (22:07) Growing up religious, rebellion, and modern faith perceptions (25:30) Come-to-Jesus moments and rebuilding from a troubled past (28:11) Judgment, stereotypes, and walking on eggshells in 2025 (29:24) Could you survive—or earn a living—without technology? (33:36) Disconnect challenges, Amish stories, and “modern Amish” cabinets (34:46) Legacy talk: family impact vs. chasing public recognition (38:44) Commodities, Keith Lee, boat families, and the cost of freedom (42:10) “Tech Bros Network” ideas and doubling the pod cadence (44:08) Guests vs. no guests, views, and the behind-the-scenes of Two Dads in Tech (45:29) Sponsorships, newsletters, and a direct call to listeners — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Episode 36: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – swap PB&J tips, parenting wins, and hard truths about friendship, marriage, and work. From the hunt for “your Shawn and Ashton” couple friends, to rules of engagement that keep marriages healthy, to why “friendly jabs” aren’t so friendly, this one’s part comedy, part therapy. They also wade into LinkedIn etiquette, IPO dreams, controversial brand moves, and the psychology of being first in sales—or a job interview. Plus: creatine talk, hairline honesty, and why apologizing quickly might be the ultimate life hack. — Show Notes: (0:00) Diagnosing “Zachery disease” and celebrating 36 episodes (1:15) PB&J hacks, keto bread, and the great toast debate (3:55) The importance of friends in the same stage of life (6:00) Moving, parenting, and finding “your couple friends” (8:45) Why it’s harder to make parent friends than you think (10:00) Family proximity vs. social life trade-offs (13:15) Golden handcuffs, IPO myths, and equity realities (16:45) LinkedIn connection requests—notes or no notes? (21:40) Marriage compromises and rules of engagement (26:47) Never make your partner look bad in public (29:08) Meeting your spouse in Vegas—party stage to partnership (33:02) American Eagle’s controversial campaign and brand risks (38:48) The Jaguar rebrand rabbit hole (39:38) Worst sales advice ever taught (48:24) Why being first in sales—or interviews—matters (49:19) Arnold’s Pump Club, Momentous creatine, and cognitive benefits (52:15) Hairlines, caring less, and emotional triggers (54:55) Apologizing fast vs. often—strength or weakness? (55:32) Where to find every Two Dads in Tech episode and challenge yourself to a 7-day disconnect — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Episode 35: Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – and Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – sit down with Anthony Natoli – https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonynatoli – for one of the most vulnerable and powerful episodes yet. From gambling addiction and $100k in debt, to fitness transformation and mindset mastery, Anthony takes us through the dark valleys and high peaks of his life. He opens up about rebuilding from rock bottom, becoming a future father, and why inner peace—not external success—is the ultimate win. If you're building something big while trying to keep your head and heart in check, this one’s for you. — Show Notes: (0:00) Anthony joins the pod — with chocolate and charisma (1:45) Losing 34 pounds and the deeper mental win (4:10) “I’m 32, live in Jersey, and I optimize for joy” (6:00) Addiction patterns: gambling, food, and emotional escape (8:45) Childhood trauma, insecurity, and the pursuit of control (10:30) Gambling $1,000 parlays while in debt (12:20) Rock bottom: debt, weight gain, and a Brooklyn mom’s ultimatum (18:30) Joining GA and the turning point that saved his life (21:00) How recovery helped him find love—and himself (26:15) “You are enough”—the message Anthony wishes he heard sooner (29:00) Nataloli’s Nuggets: helping reps sell without burning out (30:45) The dream: a dog rescue, coffee shop, and gym (35:00) Finding time when life is full — and why influencer advice often misses the mark (40:45) Building ‘Offline’: an app to gamify unplugging (45:00) Stella Sweets, charcuterie boards, and resisting cookie temptation (47:00) What kind of dad Anthony wants to be—and why he’s ready — Links: • Anthony Natoli's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonynatoli • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Episode 34: Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – and Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – dive headfirst into one of their spiciest topics yet: Should everyone have kids? They unpack the data on parenting and happiness, question cultural expectations, and get deeply personal about their own dad journeys. Along the way, they roast tech influencers, ponder digital dystopias, and ask why Gen Z seems over it all. It's philosophical, funny, and brutally honest — just how you like it. — Show Notes: (0:00) Podcasting with sick kids in the background (1:05) Why this might be our most controversial topic (2:10) “Should everyone have kids?” (4:50) Circumstantial happiness vs. purpose (7:00) The data on kids and happiness (it’s rough) (9:22) Would you be more fulfilled without kids? (11:30) Emotional cost of raising kids in chaos (13:40) Is entrepreneurship in your DNA or environment? (16:15) Teaching kids the mindset to build (18:00) The parenting paradox: burnout and joy (20:30) Dysfunction, divorce, and the cost to children (23:10) The “love tax” of raising kids (25:25) Should the world even have more people? (27:00) Tech utopias, AI gods, and digital disillusionment (30:15) Influencer culture and the fake front (33:10) Work sucks and Gen Z knows it (35:00) Building something bigger than yourself (37:30) Why legacy matters more than convenience (39:00) Final thoughts on parenting and privilege — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly. Want title ideas for this one too?

Episode 33: Daniel Berk – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk – is back with Troy Munson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson – for a wide-ranging convo that spans euro trips, retirement blueprints, and AI clones. They riff on building wealth without burnout, why vacations matter more than birthday parties, and what happens when your AI twin outlives you. Also: the iPhone is mid, social media might be a drug, and Jeff Bezos (almost) gets a handshake. — Show Notes: (0:00) Subscribe on YouTube or else (0:29) Troy’s intervention? Rebrand talk and show structure (1:09) Why guests are hard (and unpaid help wanted) (2:42) Troy’s month in Europe vs. real life in South Carolina (4:55) Retire by 45 — or maybe 40? (7:03) Kids, wealth planning, and living now (9:04) What does “retirement” even mean anymore? (10:00) Angel investing, advising, and startup stakes (12:35) The Beehive bet and life after SaaS (14:04) Building wealth as a parent — risk and responsibility (16:00) Side hustle mentality and the $100K confidence (17:19) Digital afterlife and AI twins: what happens when you die? (19:02) AI clones at work — Adam Robbins goes full simulation (20:02) Scarlett Johansson vs. AI voices (21:03) Legal gray zones of deepfake content (22:00) TikTok shop, AI influencers, and automated income (23:14) Should the U.S. delete TikTok? (25:13) Gen Y, Yik Yak, and nostalgia apps (27:12) Gamified loneliness and doomscrolling depression (28:30) Are creators addicted, too? (30:50) Should social media exist at all? (34:15) What if the internet had a time limit? (36:00) Is distribution just another name for social media? (37:08) The future of wearables and AR (39:01) Is iPhone just… boring now? (41:26) Leaving Apple? Notes, texts, and bubble shaming (44:31) Merch plug, Bezos jokes, and outro banter — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai

Episode 32: Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) goes solo dad this week, joined by meme mastermind Charlie Light — the guy behind viral Twitter personalities like John W. Rich, Hunter Cold Calls, and Chase Passive Income. They break down the business behind meme accounts, how to turn tweets into six figures, and what it’s really like building a content empire while raising toddlers. Also: LinkedIn cringe, alpha male memes, and the secret identity of Chet Newsletter Guy. — Show Notes: (0:00) Daniel flies solo — with meme legend Charlie Light (1:05) From John W. Rich to Chase Passive Income (2:06) The grind: posting 40 tweets a day (4:00) How new meme accounts are born (6:58) The secret sauce of viral growth (8:17) Explaining meme work to your kids (9:03) Dad life, coworking spaces, and working from your phone (11:26) Real-life ideas → meme gold (12:18) How meme accounts actually make money (13:38) Consulting, ghostwriting, and the $500k/year Twitter hustle (15:05) Ghostwriting clients and meme secrets (17:28) Finance background → Twitter alpha (19:21) What about TikTok, LinkedIn, Instagram? (22:10) Why LinkedIn loves low-effort memes (24:14) Twitter pays, but LinkedIn converts (25:09) Meet Chet Newsletter Guy (it’s not who you think) (27:14) Balancing parenting and always-on content (30:19) 5 hours > 80-hour grinds (32:14) Work vs. vacation — for parents, it’s all the same (33:06) So you want to start a meme account? Here’s how (35:37) Where to find Charlie online — Links: • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Charlie Light's Twitter – https://twitter.com/charlierich • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly. Let me know if you want title ideas for this one too.

Episode 31: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) jump from cold call sprints to billion-dollar acquisitions, all while hiking the Dolomites and dodging SEO doom. They dive deep on why the internet is broken (again), how social virality actually works, and why email lists might be your startup’s last lifeline. Plus: parallel dialers, parenting backpacks, and a running comeback you didn’t see coming. — Show Notes: (0:00) Mics are hot and jerseys are tight (2:00) Would you take $1M to never visit Rhode Island? (4:05) Ragebait on Twitter and Gen Z podcasts (6:00) Cold call challenge: 10 meetings in a day (8:20) Parallel dialers, P1 data, and qualifying leads (11:00) Empathy on cold calls? Wild idea, we know (13:00) Breaking out of a founder funk (15:00) Sales vs. marketing: who actually gets training? (17:00) The psychology of persuasion and compounding success (20:00) AI bots banned from crawling websites (22:10) SEO is dying. What now? (24:30) Email lists are everything (26:00) Building social engagement inside your startup (29:00) Beehive’s secret growth engine (31:30) Sponsor shoutout: Tango (https://tango.us) (32:15) AI isn’t magic — it’s leverage (34:00) Cloudflare vs. OpenAI — who wins? (36:00) Hiking Italy with kids (and packs) (38:00) Delegating the podcast grind (39:00) Grammarly buys Superhuman — wait, what? (41:00) Mental vs. physical health: Daniel’s return to running (43:00) Wrapping it up + why you should just subscribe already — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Episode 30: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) go full late-night therapy session — live from Spain (again) and the depths of parental chaos. From mushroom microdosing and screaming toddlers to productivity paranoia and the new AI gold rush, the dads get vulnerable, real, and a little spicy. This one’s less “tech podcast,” more existential spiral. You’ve been warned. — Show Notes: (0:00) Chaos in Spain: Kids crying, lights dying (1:40) Daniel’s 14-hour day (with zero breaks) (3:10) “I microdosed mushrooms… but not enough” (5:00) The lie of productivity culture (7:30) Doing hard things with your kids — not despite them (9:20) Troy’s “Go off, King” dad moment (10:50) AI doesn’t kill jobs — dumb managers do (13:15) The “you should just be better” gaslight (15:00) What leadership actually requires now (17:40) Will your AI agent handle your meetings soon? (20:10) Why we’re tired of the 10x hustle cult (22:25) Talking about marriage... again (25:00) What no one tells you about scaling startups with kids (28:00) Why Daniel cried on a run (29:30) Cereal, snacks, and unfinished therapy — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Episode 29: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) fire up the mics from across the globe — literally. With Daniel calling in from a Spanish bedroom, the dads get real about raising kids while building companies, how their own childhoods shape their parenting, and what legacy really means in a hyper-growth world. Plus, a spicy take on AI sales tools, the end of the smartphone era, and why your next vacation might include teleportation. — Show Notes: (0:00) Daniel calls in from bed in Spain (0:48) Why flying with toddlers is chaos (and how Daniel hacks it) (2:14) Daniel’s son loses it in Madrid (4:10) “What do I want my kids to say at my funeral?” (6:10) Should our kids earn what we didn’t have? (8:00) When providing becomes a problem (10:00) Memories of being “not enough” as a child (11:30) Troy on public school, depression, and doing better for his kids (14:10) Systems, burnout, and fixing the root causes (17:25) Love your spouse out loud — here’s why (19:03) Troy’s mom might be our next guest?! (20:30) What happened to “simple”? (22:35) AI tools we’re using right now (Dimmo, Sybill, etc.) (24:25) The “AI agent” debate + AI sales truth bombs (27:40) Why Gong might not be it anymore (28:50) ClickUp, Replit, and the race to own the workflow (30:00) “The next phone is not a phone” — the future of devices (31:55) Wearables, teleportation, and post-screen tech (34:25) Daniel’s bizarre powdered donut story (35:45) The digital detox challenge is ON (36:50) New site drop + what’s next — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/

Episode 28: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) go off on the current state of AI and the annoying trend of fake content. They share hilarious (and painful) stories of ChatGPT hallucinations, the dangers of outsourcing content creation, and why you need to be your own source of truth. From OpenAI's growing reach to the wild world of AI-generated demos, it's a tech-heavy episode with just enough dad jokes to keep you grounded. — Show Notes: (0:00) "Dude, Chet" and existential AI fatigue (2:00) Shoutout to Travis + HubSpot’s OpenAI partnership (4:00) ChatGPT hallucinated the entire episode (6:30) When AI scripts your podcast with fake topics (8:15) The demo video debacle (10:00) Can you trust what you didn’t verify? (13:00) “It’s happening more now” — on the rise of AI laziness (16:30) Why being the source matters in content creation (19:00) Everyone is repackaging…everything (22:45) Should you even outsource demo content? (26:10) AI outputs vs actual insight (30:00) “Make sure you watched the damn thing” (32:40) Is AI too confident for its own good? (36:00) The dad truth: trust but verify — always — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Episode 27: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) are back from a wild lake trip — 4 families, 7 kids, and a whole lot of chaos. They get real about co-parenting dynamics, underwater earbuds, and the mental load moms often carry. This one’s a vulnerable, reflective take on modern fatherhood: the guilt, the growth, and the grind of trying to be present while still needing space. — Show Notes: (0:00) Lake trip recap: 4 families, 1 mic, and a ton of coffee (3:10) Trading roles with your spouse: easier said than done (6:00) Daniel’s take on “doing nothing” and why it’s never nothing (8:30) Underwater music and pool workouts — dad recovery mode (11:45) The guilt of checking out vs. the need to recharge (14:15) The invisible load: why appreciation matters (17:40) Raising toddlers and navigating triggers (21:00) Learning to out-serve your spouse (and failing often) (24:15) Being more present and letting go of control (27:00) Reflections on family, empathy, and growth — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Episode 26: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) unpack the concept of "alpha dads," react to that viral “I would never let a man take care of me” post, and dive into the difference between being masculine vs emotionally present. One of the most honest convos yet. — Show Notes: (0:00:00) Daniel’s recovery mode + Troy’s new socks (0:02:31) What is an “alpha dad” anyway? (0:06:13) Gym culture, dad life, and being present (0:10:30) That viral “I’d never let a man take care of me” post (0:15:47) What actually makes a man masculine? (0:20:58) Teaching boys strength and vulnerability (0:24:22) Masculine roles, modern parenting, and sacrifice (0:27:36) “Stop doing chores — lead the family” (0:31:19) Dating, providing, and the emotional burden of men (0:35:01) Should men ask for help more? (0:39:20) Raising emotionally intelligent kids (0:42:18) Are we all just winging it? — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Episode 25: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) dive into screen addiction, parenting guilt, and creating the Two Dads in Tech 7-Day Digital Disconnect Challenge. They also get real about viral content, sharing kids online, and the pros and cons of working from home as a parent. — Show Notes: (0:00) Should Troy go bald? (3:00) Another week, another kid throwing up (7:00) What is “phubbing” and are we all doing it? (14:00) Launching the 7-Day Digital Disconnect Challenge (18:00) Why we’re turning this into a newsletter lead magnet (25:00) Are you parenting… or just posting about it? (31:00) When sharing your kids online becomes too much (38:00) Accidents, regressions, and potty training pressure (44:00) Viral posts, content guilt, and backlash as a parent creator (49:00) Is it time to get an office outside the house? — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Episode 24: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) go deep on how to break into tech sales, how to start your own product, and why building with AI is the cheat code of 2025. If you're stuck in your job or waiting to start something, this one's for you. Show Notes: (0:00) AI jobs in 2025 and fake sources (3:00) The truth behind “AI consultants” (7:00) What it actually means to be AI native (14:00) Want to start something? Start here (16:00) How to find your first idea on Reddit (20:00) 11 steps to break into tech sales (29:00) How to get noticed and hired fast (34:00) Building real freedom with side income (43:00) Troy's story: From sales rep to Dimmo founder (54:00) Risky moves vs the right time to jump Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) go full dad mode. From steroid shots and ChatGPT addiction to broken dog toes, budget EV trucks, and gorilla vs grizzly debates.. this one covers it all. Show Notes: (0:00) Birthday episodes and Daniel’s neck pain saga (4:00) From running addiction to swimming obsession (8:00) ChatGPT vs Google: when to use each (15:00) AI girlfriends, regulation, and future parenting fears (21:00) Idiocracy, moon conspiracies, and Mars missions (28:00) Would you rather: sales edition (32:00) How much money feels like “a lot”? (34:00) Dog vet bills and poop toy horror stories (38:00) Zoo trips, toddler obsessions, and tiger flexes (41:00) Slate trucks: overhyped or genius? Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) reflect on startup growth, golf simulators, raising mini athletes, MVPs, newsletter empires, and what it means to let go of your role as your company scales. It’s a full founder therapy session. Show Notes: (0:00) We hit 21 episodes (and birthdays never end) (2:00) Troy’s golf simulator and raising a 3-year-old golf prodigy (6:00) Tiger Woods facts + how kids get great early (8:30) Should you tell people your startup idea anymore? (10:00) How beehiiv grew with early feedback loops (14:30) Why engineers should run early user interviews (21:00) Newsletter strategy secrets and the iceberg analogy (25:00) What scaling from 10 to 100 employees at beehiiv really looks like (34:00) Letting go of ownership as the company grows (36:00) A typical day in the life (and what got replaced by swimming) Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Shop Our Merch (https://shop.twodadsintech.com/) Episode 20: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) celebrate hitting 20 episodes and dive into money, happiness, content creator cringe, AI ethics, parenting, and ice cream hot takes. No guests. Just the dads. — Show Notes: (0:00) Why Troy wears a Ford hat (1:00) Reflecting on Tyler Denk and Sam Parr episodes (3:00) Behind the scenes: how we actually run interviews (9:00) TikTok fans, twin dads, and DMs from strangers (12:00) LinkedIn persona vs real life identity (17:00) Does money make you happier? (24:00) Creative date nights on a budget (27:00) Ice cream wars: peanut butter vs mint chocolate chip (33:00) Product vs distribution in AI startups (37:00) Jay Clouse’s rules for using AI as a creator — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) sit down with Sam Parr (https://www.linkedin.com/in/parrsam/) — founder of The Hustle, host of My First Million and Money Wise, co-founder of Hampton, and proud dad of two. They talk about fatherhood, sobriety, business regrets, and how much money it takes to feel truly free. — Show Notes: (0:00) Welcome Sam Parr (and an awkward intro) (2:00) Skating on cobblestone & staying present at home (5:45) Climbing up the ladder, then trying to climb back down (10:00) Sam’s 14-year sobriety story (17:30) Making jokes online without starting a culture war (22:00) Thoughts on fatherhood, masculinity & protecting your kids (26:00) Why Sam hates guesting on podcasts (except this one) (29:00) Investing in a beehiiv competitor (oops) (35:00) Sam’s magic number for financial freedom (44:00) Grit vs. scale: early founder lessons (47:00) Skateboarding forever & making your younger self proud — Links: • Sam Parr's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/parrsam/ • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

Episode 18: Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) and Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) talk to Tyler Denk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-denk/) — co-founder and CEO of beehiiv, and creator of Big Desk Energy — about going from $120K in debt to building one of the fastest-growing media platforms in SaaS. — Show Notes: (0:00) Tyler joins Two Dads in Tech (1:00) Why beehiiv switched from DocuSign to Agree (3:00) From broke college grad to Morning Brew (8:00) Can AI really replace SaaS products? (14:00) Building a business that AI can’t disrupt (19:00) Big Desk Energy: from playlist to side hustle (24:00) “I’ll never bet on a founder who doesn’t work weekends” (27:00) Why beehiiv will win — and how culture plays a role (34:00) What Tyler looks for in top hires (46:00) How much would it take for Tyler to sell beehiiv? — Links: • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/ — Follow the Two Dads: Subscribe, like, and share if you’re building, selling, or scaling in B2B SaaS. New episodes drop weekly.

It’s a serious one, but don’t worry — we still bring the dad jokes. This week, we talk about two heartbreaking stories of teens who were influenced by bad friends and AI tools. As two dads, it really hit home. We talk parenting, tech, and how we even begin to prepare our kids for this wild world. Also in this episode: A $50M AI startup is in hot water with their investors 😬 Why there are too many AI tools in sales (and why most will flop) Remember Siri? Yeah… what happened there? Amazon’s AI review tool: helpful or horrible? DogeQuest: a Reddit movement going after Tesla owners (seriously) Going full flip phone — could you survive? And… we got our first sponsor! Big thanks to Agree.com for keeping this pod rolling. (We even used their tool to sign the deal!)

This week on Two Dads in Tech, we unpack the viral spy scandal between two HR tech giants — Deel and Rippling. A mole, a honeypot trap, and a bathroom escape? It’s like a Netflix drama, but real. Then we shift into dad mode. We get honest about postpartum depression for dads, the identity crisis that hits after having kids, and why therapy isn’t just for couples in crisis. We also sneak in some weird facts (like octopuses having 3 hearts), debate if we’d go to jail for $70 billion, and share what SaaS company we think won’t survive the next 5 years. 💡 Topics Covered: Deel vs. Rippling spy story & lawsuit Corporate espionage in tech startups Postpartum depression for new dads Therapy, marriage, and mental health for men Parenting struggles & identity shift Fun tech facts + dad jokes Big tech predictions: who survives? If you're a dad in tech, love startup drama, or just want a break from serious podcasts — hit play. We talk about what most people think but won’t say out loud. 🧔👶 Two Dads in Tech Follow, rate, and share if you laughed, learned, or both. #fatherhood #techpodcast #mentalhealth #startuplife #saasdrama #corporatespy #postpartum #twodadsintech

In this episode of Two Dads in Tech, we dive into some of the biggest conversations happening in B2B SaaS, sales tech, and AI. LinkedIn just removed Seamless AI and Apollo.io from its platform—what does this mean for data providers, and is your company at risk? We break down the controversy and what it signals for the future of LinkedIn’s policies. We also explore Vibe Coding, the fast-growing trend that’s allowing non-technical founders and small teams to build complex applications using AI. Will traditional software engineers still be necessary, or is this the beginning of a major shift in how software is developed? In our blind ranking challenge, we compare top sales tools, including Salesforce, Apollo, Gong, and LinkedIn Sales Navigator. Which ones actually help sales teams, and which are just overhyped? Finally, we get real about the struggles of chronic pain while working in tech. From back surgeries to AI-driven health insights, we discuss how technology is changing the way people manage their well-being and careers. Topics Covered in This Episode: Why LinkedIn banned Seamless AI and Apollo.io and what it means for B2B sales The rise of Vibe Coding and how AI is changing software development Are small AI-driven teams the future of SaaS startups? Blind ranking top sales tech tools—who comes out on top? AI debugging itself and what that means for developers Chronic pain, health tracking, and navigating tech careers while dealing with physical challenges If you are in B2B tech, sales, SaaS, or AI, this episode is packed with insights, humor, and real talk about the industry. Subscribe for new episodes every week. Follow us on LinkedIn, Twitter, and YouTube for more tech insights and dry humor. Want to sponsor the show? Visit twodadsintech.com to get in touch.

Two dads. Two mics. Way too many hot takes. Welcome to Two Dads in Tech, the podcast where we say the things most LinkedIn influencers are too scared to post. 🚀 In this episode, we tackle: 💰 How to make money online (without selling your soul to a get-rich-quick course). Whether it’s launching a newsletter, ghostwriting for execs, or flipping stuff from Facebook Marketplace—there are real ways to turn your laptop into an ATM. 📢 Building an audience on LinkedIn (and why most people do it completely wrong). From meme culture to why sales posts are all starting to sound the same, we break down the right way to stand out. 🏆 If a salesperson hits quota early, should they just stop working? (Be honest: Would you?) 🎙 Other things we dive into: The Great Resignation —Was it just people realizing they hate working? Why working from home has turned some people into productivity machines and others into full-time Netflix connoisseurs. The absolute best & worst weird food combos from our childhood (yes, Troy really drank Chocolate Coke). 👀 Follow us for more tech, sales, and dad wisdom. 📩 Want to sponsor? Head to TwoDadsInTech.com. 🎧 Subscribe & listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your dad-approved content.

In this episode, we break down the biggest debates in dad life and tech, including: But first, check out our sponsor, Fathom, the best call recorder ever: https://2ly.link/24uFH 🐶 Are dogs secretly more expensive than kids? Daniel’s dog had a vet bill that cost more than his last vacation. Troy’s dog almost lost a leg thanks to a spider. Do we still love our dogs the same way after having kids? (Spoiler: Nope.) 💰 Should you pay off debt ASAP or enjoy life while you're young? Do you grind to pay off student loans early, or live it up in your 20s and pay the minimums? The shocking truth about how much the average 30-year-old actually has in savings. How our mindset on money has evolved in tech sales. 🚗 Driving a Tesla – Smart purchase or Elon endorsement? Troy owns a Tesla – does that mean he automatically supports Elon? Can you separate a company from its founder’s actions? The Chick-fil-A and Nike comparison: Does buying mean endorsing? 🚰 Stanley vs. Owala – The Water Bottle Wars Daniel just discovered Owala. Apparently, it’s a thing? Troy refuses to abandon his Stanley cup, but has concerns. The real question: Why are we all paying $50+ for water bottles? 🤧 Sick kids in public – What’s the right move? Are we those parents who take their kids out with a lingering cough? Do we secretly judge other parents when they do the same? Snotty kids at daycare… enough said. 🔥 BONUS: We also talk about how we take sales notes, why every rep should be using Fathom, and our thoughts on employer stock purchase plans. 🚀 Want to sponsor us? We reach 60,000+ LinkedIn followers with millions of monthly impressions. Get your brand in front of B2B tech pros, SaaS founders, and business leaders. Email [email protected] or visit twodadsintech.com. 🎧 Listen & Subscribe: 🎙️ Spotify: [insert link] 🍏 Apple Podcasts: [insert link] 📺 YouTube: [insert link] 📸 TikTok & Instagram: [insert links] 👀 What do you think? Drop a comment: Do you love your dog the same way after having kids? Is Owala or Stanley the superior water bottle? What’s your take on paying off debt vs. living it up? #TwoDadsInTech #DadLife #TechPodcast #B2BSales #FinancialFreedom #StanleyVsOwala #TeslaDebate #DogDadLife #SickKids #SalesTech

In this episode, Troy and Daniel dive into the chaos of parenting, business ideas, and deep (but hilarious) life debates. Ever wondered if you’ll poop yourself during a marathon? We tackle the hard-hitting questions first. Then, we shift gears into raising kids in 2025—what do you actually teach them at home? Math and coding? Nope. How to be decent humans? Absolutely. The dads also debate homeschooling vs. public school, especially in the face of rising school shootings. (Yikes.) Next up, it’s rapid-fire business ideas you can steal right now 💡, from an Airbnb for home-cooked meals to a gym membership that gets cheaper the more you go. Plus, Troy shares a business idea he’s been sitting on for years (and still kinda wants to launch). And because no episode is complete without controversy, we tackle the LinkedIn "Open to Work" banner debate —does it actually make you look desperate? Or is it just misunderstood? 🤔 To wrap things up, the dads debate how much money you really need to start a $1M business in 90 days and why live-streaming the entire thing might be the biggest money-maker of all. This episode is equal parts business, parenting, and absolute nonsense —and that’s exactly why you’ll love it. 👉 Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, and Spotify 👉 Leave a 5-star review if you laughed even once 👉 Join the Two Dads movement (we’re totally making that a thing) 💸 P.S. We might send you $2 if you subscribe. Probably not. But maybe.

In this jam-packed episode of Two Dads in Tech, Troy Munson and Daniel Berk take a deep dive into the wild world of startups, family life, and, of course, dad fashion. What’s Inside This Episode? Startup Life vs. Family Life: Can you really balance building a high-growth startup and being present for your family? Troy gets real about the impossible juggling act, Paul Graham’s infamous startup advice, and why sometimes, revenue takes a back seat to lunch dates with your wife. Do You Actually Like Your Job? Daniel breaks down what to do if you hate your job but feel stuck. The guys explore how passion, risk, and that one guy who went from Groupon to supersonic jets (yes, really) can teach you how to pivot your career—without torching your bank account. The One Lesson You Shouldn’t Learn the Hard Way: Things get deep when Troy and Daniel open up about personal loss, tough conversations with family, and why you should probably tell people you love them way more than you do now. Spoiler: There are no do-overs. Why Life is Basically Just Chaos: Ever feel like life is a mess? That’s because it is. But the guys debate whether it’s all about how you respond to the madness or if we’re all just winging it. (Hint: We’re all winging it.) Gold Chains & Chest Hair Confessions: Because no Two Dads in Tech episode is complete without some ridiculousness, Daniel unveils his new TJ Maxx-inspired fashion phase, and Troy reminisces about his regrettable days of chest-hair manscaping. Why Listen? This episode is equal parts hilarious, insightful, and unexpectedly real. Whether you're grinding in tech, figuring out work-life balance, or just need a good laugh, you’re in the right place. 📩 Want to work smarter, not harder? Shoutout to our sponsor, Superhuman, the fastest email client on the planet. Try it free for a month at superhuman.com/twodadsintech 🎧 Subscribe & Follow: TikTok & Instagram: @twodadsintech YouTube: Two Dads in Tech (Hit that subscribe button, we won’t be mad) Website & Sponsorships: twodadsintech.com Hit play now, and let’s get into it!

Welcome to another hilarious, insightful, and completely unfiltered episode of Two Dads in Tech! In this episode, Troy Munson and Daniel Berk sit down with the one, the only, the myth, the legend— Brian LaManna from Gong. And trust us, this guy isn’t just good at sales… rumor has it, he once debugged software by whispering “work” at the code. We kick things off by breaking down Brian’s sales career, his approach to being a top 1% AE, and his new venture, ClosedWon.xyz, where he’s teaching sellers how to master modern outbound (because let’s be honest—most sales emails are garbage). But it’s not just sales talk. We go deep —like, “can Brian LaManna actually beat Daniel in a fight?” deep. We uncover: Brian’s sports background – Football, volleyball, and why his vertical jump might still be elite. Why most SDRs are struggling today (and what they can do to stand out in an AI-saturated world). The worst DMs we’ve ever received on LinkedIn —including threats over cold email frameworks (yes, really). Should AI replace SDRs? Or are humans still needed to actually close deals? The biggest regrets in our careers —Troy’s MongoDB story, Daniel’s six-figure student loans, and Brian’s take on leaving his last company too late. Why the college degree might be dead in 10 years —our hot takes on what the future of education should look like. What Brian does outside of sales —Pickleball, UFC fights, and why hanging with Monty (his dog) might be tougher than closing enterprise deals. Daniel’s workout routine… or lack thereof. Will 2025 be the year he finally gets jacked? (Troy remains skeptical.) And of course, it wouldn’t be Two Dads in Tech without dad jokes, roasting, and random chaos. If you’ve ever wanted to hear two tech dads grill a guest about his vertical jump, his chances in a fight, and his most uncomfortable DMs—all while dropping actual valuable sales insights—this is the episode for you. Where to Find Us: Listen & Subscribe: Two Dads in Tech Follow Brian: Brian LaManna on LinkedIn | ClosedWon.xyz Subscribe to the Podcast: Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts! Check out our sponsor: Superhuman 🔥 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and leave a review—because if you don’t, Brian LaManna might just look at you, and the road will recalculate.

Welcome to another chaotic, hilarious, and slightly sleep-deprived episode of Two Dads in Tech! This week, Troy Munson and Daniel Berk are back at it again—armed with dad jokes, hot takes on AI, and an in-depth analysis of just how many times you can wear pants before washing them. (Spoiler: It’s a lot.) Before we get into it, go try Superhuman, our sponsor on today's show. www.superhuman.com/twodadsintech Here’s What’s Cookin’ in This Episode: Burritos & Regret: Troy starts the episode stuffed with what was probably a 1,300-calorie burrito and on the verge of needing a mid-podcast nap. Daniel, meanwhile, reflects on his personal tortilla-to-chip ratio crisis. If you’ve ever overeaten at a Mexican restaurant (aka every time you’ve gone to one), this segment is for you. Dad Life Diaries: The duo tackles the great parenting debate—who changes diapers in public, and why do men’s restrooms still not have changing tables? Also, why do toddlers act like they drank three energy drinks the second you step outside the house? AI Smackdown: DeepSeek vs. ChatGPT: Is OpenAI in trouble? Did a Chinese startup really build a ChatGPT competitor for $6 million? Is this all just an elaborate scheme to make us even more confused about what AI tool to use? Troy and Daniel break down the buzz, throw in a few conspiracy theories, and ultimately decide that as long as AI keeps serving them better ads for hats, they’re good. Data Privacy? Meh. The dads dive into the real question: Should we actually care if China has our data? Troy and Daniel make a compelling argument for “Please, just show me better targeted ads so I don’t have to Google things.” The Great Clothing Debate: How many times can you wear jeans without washing them? Is there a correct number of days joggers should be worn before they enter the laundry cycle? More importantly, why do we all have that one pile of “not dirty but not clean” clothes sitting somewhere in our house? Would You Sell Your LinkedIn Account? Troy and Daniel tackle the million-dollar (or maybe seven-million-dollar) question—how much would someone have to pay you to delete your LinkedIn account forever? The answer? Depends on if the check clears. Cold Outreach Strategy: Troy breaks down his aggressive, multi-channel, no-automation-needed outbound approach to getting meetings, including why you should always call someone right after they accept your LinkedIn request. The Email Client That Changed Everything: Superhuman sponsors this episode, and Daniel and Troy reveal how switching to this lightning-fast email client transformed their inbox game. (Spoiler: Troy originally hated it. Now, he’s a diehard fan.) The Ultimate Life Goal: What’s the dream? For Daniel, it’s a mix of running, taking care of his family, and achieving financial freedom. For Troy, it’s never reporting to anyone ever again—preferably while sipping a frozen drink on a beach. Both agree that 10 years ago, they’d never have imagined they’d be where they are today. Beach vs. Mountains: The classic debate. Also, if you haven’t considered Curaçao for your next trip, Troy has some convincing reasons why it’s a hidden gem. Closing Thoughts: Want to sponsor the pod? Hit up Daniel at [email protected]. Want more dad jokes, spicy takes, and high-quality nonsense? Subscribe, follow, and share with a fellow dad who needs a laugh. If you like your tech talk served with a side of absurd humor, dad relatability, and the occasional existential crisis about AI, this is the episode for you. Hit play, enjoy the ride, and let’s try to see something.

Welcome to another episode of "Two Dads in Tech," the podcast where we discuss the topics everyone thinks about but rarely talks about. In this episode, hosts Troy Munson and Daniel Burke are joined by the legendary Kevin "KD" Dorsey, CRO at Finally and renowned sales leader with over a decade of experience building high-performing teams and driving growth. Key Takeaways: SDR vs. AE: The Ultimate Debate KD dives into the age-old question: Which role is tougher, SDR or AE? He breaks down the challenges of each, emphasizing why SDRs often face more rejection and delayed gratification than AEs, who at least get to run demos and have meaningful conversations. Mastering Cold Calls and Building Resilience Discover KD’s approach to training reps for success on the phone. From removing distractions to daily practice, learn how his teams achieve high output through focused effort and mastering the art of tone over scripts. The Journey from Kinesiology to Tech Sales KD shares his unconventional path into tech sales—from selling knives door-to-door to leading teams at unicorn companies. His story is a testament to the power of persistence and recognizing opportunity. Building Memories Beyond the Office In one of the most touching moments, KD recounts a heartwarming family story in Costa Rica, where his daughters dreamed up their own smoothie shop. This segment highlights the importance of family and cherishing life's simplest moments. Leveraging LinkedIn for Personal and Professional Growth KD discusses how his LinkedIn following has opened doors worldwide, from speaking engagements in Copenhagen to bringing his family on incredible journeys. Learn how to build and monetize your network without losing your authenticity. The Role of a Chief Revenue Officer (CRO) Explained KD clarifies the true responsibilities of a CRO, differentiating between managing, directing, designing, and deciding—all critical in driving a company’s revenue efficiently. Biggest Career Regrets and Lessons Learned Both hosts and KD share their biggest career regrets, providing valuable lessons on the importance of timing, decision-making, and seizing opportunities. Embracing AI in Sales and Business KD offers insights into integrating AI in sales processes, stressing the importance of defining "what good looks like" (WIGLL) to maximize the potential of AI tools. Why You Should Listen: This episode is packed with real-life experiences, actionable insights, and candid discussions that resonate with anyone navigating the complex world of tech sales. Whether you’re an SDR, AE, sales leader, or someone looking to leverage social media for professional growth, this episode has something for you. Where to Find Us: Catch "Two Dads in Tech" on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow us on LinkedIn for more updates and connect with our hosts and guests for deeper insights into the world of tech and sales. Connect with KD: Follow Kevin "KD" Dorsey on LinkedIn for daily sales leadership content and more stories that inspire and educate. Tune in now for an episode filled with humor, heart, and hard-hitting sales strategies!