Truth, Lies and Coverups with Traci Brown

Kelly Richmond-Pope joins me on Truth, Lies and Coverups today. She's a Ph.D Accounting professor at DePaul University and an expert on fraud and the after effects of being a whistle blower. She's also a documentary producer. She'll tell us all about making her show All the Queens Horses which profiles the largest municipal fraud in history. You can see it on Amazon Prime now. Enjoy!

Deception Detection and statement analysis expert Peter Hyatt visits Truth, Lies and Coverups. He's a master at spotting deceptive language patterns. We'll chat about deception in cases including Alec Baldwin, Cleo Smith's Parents, Roger Clemens and Go in depth on Jon Benet Ramsey. You'll learn how to listen for and read deception verbally, written and in texts.

Lisa Morris's ex-husband tried to hide assets from her during their divorce. But not just any old assets—rich oil wells in West Texas. Listen to find out how the found them and accurately valued them to get a fair deal and how she helps others going thru divorce locate and value assets as well. She'll also tell us about the biggest case she's worked on and a super easy way you can find out protect yourself in similar situations.

Former Navy S.E.A.L. Don Shipley joins Truth, Lies and Coverups. He's made it his life's mission to identify phony Navy S.E.A.L.s. Find out what really happens when he confronts phonys, why his reality show failed and what happened with Tiger Woods trained with the S.E.A.L.s for a day.

James Linton visits Truth Lies and Coverups. You may have seen him on the world news for hacking emails of several senior staffers at the white house including the head of Homeland Security, Antony Scaramucci and Sara Sanders. He'll share how he got their addresses, how he tricked them and how he got caught. He's the Banksy of the cyber world. But don't worry, he's on the good side of things now helping people prevent online social engineering in their world.

Libby Henry visits Truth, Lies and Coverups. She'll recount her cautionary tale of her husband's mortgage fraud and how he left her with $11.38 in her pocket, at one point fearing for her life. She'll talk about how writing her book after her divorce revealed that he'd made her a co-conspirator in his nefarious ways. Listen to find out more about what happened and what she's doing now.

Traci and Alex review the latest intel on the Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito case. We hear from Brett Johnson on the latest on what's new with ransomware. Then DefCon Social Engineering Contest winner Chris Kirsch visits Truth Lies and Coverups. He details what it takes to beat the best of the best—tricking fortune 500 companies to reveal info to let him into their networks. We also talk about breaking into and manipulating voting machines. Make sure you listen to this one so you know what's REALLY going on out there and how to protect yourself from it.

Former army interrogator James Pyle visits Truth, Lies and Coverups. We chat about his formula for tactical questioning so you can find out anything from anyone at any time. Discover what affects the accuracy of interrogations, and how to get the 2 things that don't come easy.

Tom Hardin visits Truth Lies and Coverups. He did some insider trading, got caught by the FBI and instead of going to jail right away, wore a wire for them which resulted in multiple arrests. They gave him the code name TipperX. Listen to find out the details—it's the stuff movies are made of. Enjoy!

Lisa Lawler visits the show. She's the founder of the White Collar Wives project, a support group for wives who's husbands have been accused or convicted of embezzlement. Listen to find out what happened when she found out her husband was being investigated for embezzlement, the #1 tip she tells ladies in the group and a few of their amazing stories of what happened when their husbands got caught.

Sharon Edwards joins Traci on Truth Lies and Coverups. We'll dig into the murder case she's investigating on her Justice Delayed podcast. It's been almost 20 years since the crime was committed in Abilene, TX. Listen to find out how she avoided being arrested during her investigation, who the suspects are, who will talk to her, who won't and if she thinks she'll solve the case and find the murderer.

Traci and her producer Alex discuss the Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie police body cam video. And you're not going to want to miss Retired FBI agent Jim Fitzgerald. His work with forensic linguistics is the primary reason the Unabomber was caught, stopping 17 years of mail bombs and the injury and death that resulted. Listen to find out how long he was on the case before it was solved and the inside scoop on how the FBI got their man. We'll also and fact check and hear behind the scenes stories on his TV series Manhunt: Unabomber. Be sure to watch it on Netflix.

Convicted Fraudster Ryan Homa visits Truth, Lies and Coverups. He gets pretty raw as he tells us exactly how he stole $1.2 M, why he did it, the devastating effects of how it weighed on him, how it didn't even solve the problem he really had and what he learned about himself. He doesn't hold anything back. You'll learn a lot from this one. Enjoy.

Statement Analysis Expert and Retired Secret Service Agent Mark McClish visits Truth Lies and Coverups. He'll share intel from his 30+ years of statement analysis. You'll know exactly what words and phrases indicate deception. He'll also fill us in on what it's really like to work at the White House, what Ronald Reagan was like and his thoughts on deception from Chris Watts to Kaitlyn Jenner.

New York Times writer Abby Ellin visits Truth, Lies and Coverups today. She wrote a new book Duped: Double Lives, False Identities and the Con Man I Almost Married. It's based on events in her life and lots of research on leading a double life and the lies that go with it. We also chat about a few of the liars we've both had common experiences with. Enjoy! Be sure to check out Abby's podcast Impostors at https://medium.com/ear-worthy/second-season-of-impostors-the-commander-releases-two-new-episodes-16b8e08fe218

Former Federal Prosecutor Tom O'malley visits Truth, Lies and Coverups. He's helped catch rap gangs committing millions in ID fraud, investigated synthetic ID fraud based on postal worker tips about suspicious mail deliveries and talks about the first known use-case of Nest security cameras data used as evidence against the bad guys. He'll also share the easiest thing you can do to protect yourself from huge fraud loss.

Private Investigator Michele Stuart visits Truth, Lies and Coverups. We talk open source intelligence tools anyone can use to find someone and track their behavior. She'll reveal her techniques for social engineering and how you can use 3 emotional hooks to get anyone to do anything for you. And what's most interesting are the questions she WON'T answer…. You gotta listen to this one. Enjoy.

Jimmy Scalzo visits Truth, Lies and Coverups Today. Listen to find out how his success and a family business disagreement led him to commit mortgage fraud…and bring his extended family down with him. He'll reveal the mindset it takes to do what he did and exactly how long it took him to snap out of it and much, much more.

We've rebranded Traci's Fraud Busting podcast to Truth Lies and Coverups. You have to listen to find out why! You'll still get fascinating interviews from fraudsters, crooks, victims and the law enforcement that got to the bottom of it. And some fun new segments. Want to see the Truth, Lies and Coverups TV Show sizzle reel? Go to this link: https://youtu.be/PwJtTBBindQ

Author Daniel Barbarisi visits Fraud Busting. He spent 3 years searching for Forrest Fenn's Treasure-worth $1m and only findable if you could decode a very cryptic poem written by the eccentric antique dealer. Hundreds of thousands of people searched over 10 years and in 2020 it was announced that the treasure was found. Was the ever really a treasure? Was there a legitimate finder? Was the whole thing a fraud? You've got to listen to find out.

White Collar Crime Investigator and former government prosecutor Lloydette Bai-Marrow visits fraud busting. We'll chat about whistleblower and also criminal motivations and how good people end up doing illegal things 'for the good of the company' . She'll also chat about the difference in her approach when investigating fraud in the corporate and government sectors and reveal simple ways to minimize fraud in your company.

Retired FBI economic crimes agent Jerri Williams visits Fraud Busting. She'll tell us the behind the scenes stories of her work on fraud cases including the ponzi scheme she helped bust that landed her on the CNBC TV show American Greed. She'll debunk myths about the FBI and tell us all about her podcast where she gets the real story on FBI cases and the books she's written. You don't want to miss this one.

Sandra James visits Fraud Busting. She's the CEO of Private Eyes Background Checks and also a private investigator. We'll hear all about the consequences of not getting the right kind of background check when hiring…and the different choices you have to make sure you get all the info you need. And you'll find out what happens when she's asked to follow someone in domestic adultery cases. Prepare to be fascinated.

Terry Ellis visits Fraud Busting. He masterminded a real life heist of Verizon headquarters in London to steal customer data, in person, without guns. And pulled it off. You'll be amazed at his story and also learn about what he's doing now to keep young people away from a life of crime and out of prison. Be sure to get his books Living Amongst the Beasts and Verizon. Enjoy.

Ph.D. Criminologist Robert Schug visits Fraud Busting. We chat about why people close to you may lie and also talk about his forensic psychology work with mass murderers. He'll talk about the common threads all criminals have and why people DON'T commit crimes. We'll also chat about the differences between psychopaths and narcissists and how you can spot them.

Kevin McCarthy visits Fraud Busting. He unknowingly participated in a years-long stock fraud scheme and ended up in jail for it. Looking back he knows he rationalized away the red flags that said big trouble was coming. He had massive blind spots and developed a system so you can find yours too. You'll learn how you can find the things you're NOT seeing both to keep yourself out of trouble and be a more effective leader. You're gonna want to make sure you get his book Blind Spots and take his complimentary online assessment to learn vital info about yourself and what you're not seeing.

Body Language Expert Mark Bowden visits Fraud Busting. He's been ranked the #1 body language expert in the world. He'll discuss what we can all learn from The Muppets and he'll dig into his Truth Plane system to reveal how you can use it to control and predict people's responses. And you'll learn why Lying is the most important social still you can have.

White Collar Defense Attorney Sara Azari visits Fraud Busting. We met while filming a new TV show on the FOX crime channel called The Criminal Mind and she was such a powerhouse there I just had to have her on the show. She'll reveal her methodology in successfully defending white collar cases and getting clients out of jail. She'll talk mitigating and aggravating factors, Interrogation techniques and even the rise in PPP loan fraud. Don't miss this episode. It could keep you out of jail.

Linda Larsen visits Fraud Busting. You'll be blown away by her story of being abducted and held at gunpiont. She'll reveal how her intuition and attention to communication in this intense situation allowed her to save her own life. You're gonna have to listen to find out exactly how she did it. She eventually become a trial consultant helping lawyers persuade juries. You'll learn how you can use her tools to build rapport with anyone so you can get yourself out of the toughest situations.

Top Interrogator and Body Language Expert Scott Rouse visits Fraud Busting. Our discussion runs from his hit Youtube body language group the Behavior Panel, to being on Dr. Phil to how entrepreneurs can raise millions by persuading investors differently in different parts of the country to his analysis of the Jon Benet Ramsey and the Tiger King cases and why women are more into true crime documentaries than men. Ah and also his research into the Liar's Loop. Whew! You'll want to be sure to get his new book Understanding Body Language and also his new video class True Crime Workshop.

Medical Fraud Investigator Angel Celucci visits Fraud Busting. She says 90% of the medical bills we get contain fraud and has a proprietary system on how to spot it so you keep your money in your wallet. She'll give us the update on ID theft around the COVID vaccine, pharmacy fraud and also tell us about how she fell for a scam herself but managed to get all of her money back.

Social Engineer Chris Hadnagy visits Fraud Busting. His specialty is the human side of security. You'll be amazed at his stories of breaking into companies (at their request) to test their security. And we'll chat about how to use the tools of persuasion that the bad guys use to make the world a better place so you win friends, influence people and leave them better off for having met you. His new book Human Hacking is hot off the presses. You're gonna want to make sure you get a copy of it.

Tim McGuinness visits Fraud Busting. He's the expert on socially engineered cyber enabled crimes and fights fraud every day. We'll learn how in the '80's he helped introduce legislation that he now considers the root of all evil online. And he'll fill us in on how he was targeted by Al-Queda and then helped bust their fraud scheme.

Debby Montgomery fell in love online and ended up losing over $1,000,000. Listen to find out how it happened, how the fraud was revealed and what she's doing to help others avoid the same fate.

Interrogation and Deception Expert Dave Zulawski visits Fraud Busting. He'll tell all about the realities of polygraph testing, the driving force behind fraud and tell us details of some of the fraud investigations he's done from car dealerships to construction to recycling. He'll also give details on the most important skill you can develop to spot fraud and scams yourself so you can find the truth.

Toby Dorr visits Fraud Busting. You'll be sucked into her amazing story as she takes us from leading her normal, midwestern life to busting her boyfriend out of prison. Listen to find out exactly what happened, what she's doing now and how you can realize the signs of vulnerability to fraud and social engineering in yourself.

Top Body Language Experts Tonya Reiman and Traci Brown chat about what it really takes to be a body language expert on TV, how they got to where they are and a few things to look for so you can make an accurate body language analysis of someone for yourself.

Mike Jones visits Fraud Busting. He's been the hacker with a legit job during the day who caused havoc with his underground group in the cyber world by night. He takes us through his journey from doing 'crypto stuff' for the Navy to being targeted by the FBI…and then working for them. We'll hear about his experiences behind the scenes working for the government, how he got stranded in Europe for 2 years, his ideas on election hacking and what to do for your computer-loving kids so they go down a good path and stay on the right side of the law.

John Iannarelli, CSP visits Fraud Busting. We'll chat about the cases he's worked on including the Oklahoma City bombing, The 9/11 attack and the Sony hacks---there were 2 and you've never heard about the first one. He'll give us his best tips from his book How to Spot a Terrorist Before It's Too Late and give us some of his most entertaining stories featured in his book Disorderly Conduct. Enjoy!

Chris Parker from WhatIsMyIPAddress.com and the Easy Prey Podcast visits Fraud Busting. Victims of fraud reach out to him frequently to help locate people who have scammed them from their IP addresses. You'll be intrigued at his stories. And he'll give us tips on what scams are hot right now and how to avoid being a victim yourself when he reveals the secret in deciding if you've got a scam on your hands or not.

eCommerce Chargebacks & Fraud Consultant Karisse Hendrick visits Fraud Busting. She'll tell us all about how she's used card info to discover who's cheating on thier wife, How she helped bust a Biggie Smalls impersonator operating a stolen credit card ring and also why she stopped a suspicious purchase from a very famous rock star. (You gotta listen in to find out who it is.) She'll tell all about how she helps big companies detect and stop fraud losses and give us tons of tips to protect yourself online. This one is fun.

Is it fraud or an honest mistake? Medical Billing expert Barbara Cobuzzi visits fraud busting. She's one of the nation's leading experts on medical billing fraud. Get ready for your head to spin. She explains how medical billing really happens and why it's ripe for mistakes and fraud. She talks about hallmarks of medical fraud, her work as an expert witness in federal court and some of the cases she's worked on. And as a bonus she'll talk about how you can double check your medical bill and get the right insurance plan for your needs.

Cameron Jay of Classic City Crime visits Fraud Busting. This is a little different than what you normally hear on this podcast. And he's fascinating Cameron is working to solve the 20 year old murder of Tara Louis Baker in Athens Georgia. He'll tell us all about the new evidence he's found, the suspects, his thoughts on them and we'll talk about the body language he's asked me to read in the case. You'll be sucked into the story and want to subscribe to his podcast, Classic City Crime Subscribe now! Here's the Link https://open.spotify.com/show/37aEs2ERjYOE0noQ6dYpnD

Former Iowa Lottery CEO Terry Rich visits Fraud Busting. He'll reveal all of the inside details about how he led the charge to solve a what looked like a winning ticket fraud. Was the ticket legit? Why had so many people claimed they had it and tried to claim the prize? And did he find who did it? Listen to find out.

Steve Murphy and Javier Pena visit Fraud Busting. They're the US Drug Enforcement Agency agents who helped catch Pablo Escobar, the Columbian Drug Lord who was responsible for 80% of the world's cocaine trade. They're depicted as the stars of the NETFLIX show NARCOS. Tune in to get the real story of what happened leading up to and during Escobar's takedown.

Mike Staver visits Fraud Busting. He recounts his story of being defrauded by his assistant in the '90's and the mistakes he made that led to the losses. There's been recent activity in the case that only 4% of fraud victims experience. You'll be shocked at what happened and what he's done as a result.

Former FBI agent Jim Casey visits Fraud Busting. We talk about auto fraud, how he got primary evidence to solve who blew up PanAm flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, the corporate asset protection he's done, and the high end investigations he's doing now including deaths and kidnappings These stories will amaze you.

Dave Lieber visits Fraud Busting. He's the consumer watchdog columnist for the Dallas Morning News and fills us in on what happened in 2005 to increase consumer fraud and what the most crooked business in the country is now. And he reveals exactly how to get big companies who have done you wrong to make it right. We also talk about the power of storytelling in business and about his 2 new live plays. After listening, You're gonna want to be sure to get his book Watchdog Nation. Enjoy!

FBI deception detection, interview and interrogation master Stan Walters visits Fraud Busting. He talks about the easiest way to avoid fraud, how to recover the most information out of your interviews (either at home or at work) and understand what is truth and what's a lie. He also reveals the difference between narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths and how today's politicians communication styles have thrown the political world into turmoil.

Cindy Olson visits Fraud Busting. She rose through the ranks at Enron to become the head of Human Resources. We talk culture, fraud, ethics and how it all led to collapse. Now she's helping companies prevent the same thing from happening to them. The white paper she refers to is at this link: CLICK HERE