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<html><p>We talk to author <a href="http://twitter.com/jathansadowski" target="_blank">Jathan Sadowski</a> about the rise of SmartCities, covid-19 surveillance states and finally answer the burning question: what is 5G?</p><p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/too-smart" target="_blank">https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/too-smart</a></p><p><a href="https://reallifemag.com/contributors/jathan-sadowski" target="_blank">https://reallifemag.com/contributors/jathan-sadowski</a></p></html>