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Paul Vanderklay: Why Sam Harris Is Wrong About Meaning and God
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Paul Vanderklay: Why Sam Harris Is Wrong About Meaning and God

Paul Vanderklay is a minister in the Christian Reformed Church of North America. In this conversation we talk about Jordan Peterson's / John Vervaeke's / Jonathan Pageau's and Sam Harris' influence on "new Christianity." This wasn't going to be releaseed because Paul Vanderklay and I had our schedule's jumbled; meaning, I had simultaneous people vying for my attention due to double-booking meetings and as a result, am not as present as I would have liked to be. However, due to a few requests I'm releasing and hopefully you enjoy, since Peter does a superlative job in my absence (despite the issues with the sound quality). If you'd like Part 2 with Paul Vanderklay, let me know and leave your questions for him below. - Curt Jaimungal PAUL VANDERKLAY YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGsDIP_K6J6VSTqlq-9IPlg Twitter: https://twitter.com/PaulVanderKlay JOHN VERVAEKE YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke JONATHAN PAGEAU YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtCTSf3UwRU14nYWr_xm-dQ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan INFO FOR CURT JAIMUNGAL Patreon *NEW*: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal Twitter: https://twitter.com/bluthefilm * * * 0:00:00 Introduction to Paul Vanderklay 0:02:55 What are the pros and cons of Jordan Peterson's, John Vervaeke's, and Jonathan Pageau's approaches? 0:08:10 How Christian is this "new Christianity" put forward by people like Peterson, and Jung? 0:10:04 Is this the same old debate that Dostoevsky / Nietzsche referred to before the 1900's? 0:13:15 On Solzhenitsyn and the new definition of "religion" 0:16:32 What makes someone a Christian? 0:20:42 What is God? (thoughts on the Sam Harris / Peterson debate) 0:24:24 Deriding God by analogizing him to "Zeus" is incorrect 0:27:30 What's the relationship between Christianity, Secularism, and the State 0:34:16 Can you rationally prove God's existence? 0:44:40 Is Sam Harris a Christian? 0:47:47 How does "religion without religion" make sense? 0:53:19 Does freedom just mean "more choice"?

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal · Theories of Everything

August 24, 20201h 27m

Show Notes

Paul Vanderklay, a minister in the Christian Reformed Church, joins Curt Jaimungal to examine how Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke, Jonathan Pageau, and Sam Harris shape a “new Christianity.” They debate the nature of Christian belief, the role of God, and the intersection of religion with secularism and the state.

- 0:00:00 - Introduction to Paul Vanderklay
- 0:02:55 - Pros and cons of Peterson, Vervaeke, and Pageau approaches
- 0:08:10 - How Christian is the “new Christianity” put forward by Peterson and Jung
- 0:10:04 - Is this the same old debate referenced by Dostoevsky and Nietzsche?
- 0:13:15 - Solzhenitsyn and the new definition of “religion”
- 0:16:32 - What makes someone a Christian?
- 0:20:42 - What is God? (thoughts on the Sam Harris / Peterson debate)
- 0:24:24 - Why deriding God by analogizing him to “Zeus” is incorrect
- 0:27:30 - Relationship between Christianity, Secularism, and the State
- 0:34:16 - Can you rationally prove God’s existence?
- 0:44:40 - Is Sam Harris a Christian?
- 0:47:47 - How “religion without religion” makes sense
- 0:53:19 - Does freedom just mean “more choice”?

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- PAUL VANDERKLAY YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGsDIP_K6J6VSTqlq-9IPlg
- PAUL VANDERKLAY Twitter: https://twitter.com/PaulVanderKlay
- JOHN VERVAEKE YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke
- JONATHAN PAGEAU YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtCTSf3UwRU14nYWr_xm-dQ
- JONATHAN PAGEAU Twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan

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