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Passos, Montemayor, Mindt: Do Animals, Infants, and AI Have Consciousness?
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Passos, Montemayor, Mindt: Do Animals, Infants, and AI Have Consciousness?

YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_YMcEPfqCM Sponsors: - Manscaped: Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code [TOE] at Manscaped.com. - Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off Claudia Passos is an Assistant Professor of Bioethics at NYU studying infant consciousness, Garrett Mindt is a professor of philosophy at Florida Atlantic University focused on novel information-theoretic metaphysics, and Carlos Montemayor is a professor of philosophy whose research focuses on the intersection between philosophy of mind, epistemology and cognitive science. This episode has been released early in an ad-free audio version for TOE members at http://theoriesofeverything.org. - *New* TOE Website (early access to episodes): https://theoriesofeverything.org/ - Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal - Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE - PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast... - Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b9... - Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeveryt... TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:56 How aware are infants? 00:08:36 Correlates of consciousness 00:11:16 Trauma in infants 00:17:00 Traditional definitions of consciousness 00:22:05 Animal consciousness 00:26:05 Phenomenal consciousness 00:35:37 “You can't be intelligent if you are not autonomous” 00:37:00 Asymmetric moral considerations 00:41:00 Agency needs vulnerability to work 00:43:20 The borders between biology and machine 00:46:00 Building "mini brains"! 00:58:40 Behavioral markers of consciousness 01:00:10 Should AI be given the same ethical consideration as our human children? 01:05:16 Do infants lack moral standing? 01:08:14 Is analogue consciousness relevant? 01:14:06 What do we mean by “autonomy”? 01:19:00 Outro

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal · Theories of Everything

April 18, 20231h 24m

Show Notes

Passos, Montemayor, and Mindt examine consciousness limits in infants, animals, and artificial intelligence systems. They explore how we can recognize consciousness, the moral implications of treating non‑human minds, and whether AI should receive the same ethical consideration as human children.

- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:03:56 - How aware are infants?
- 00:08:36 - Correlates of consciousness
- 00:11:16 - Trauma in infants
- 00:17:00 - Traditional definitions of consciousness
- 00:22:05 - Animal consciousness
- 00:26:05 - Phenomenal consciousness
- 00:35:37 - “You can't be intelligent if you are not autonomous”
- 00:37:00 - Asymmetric moral considerations
- 00:41:00 - Agency needs vulnerability to work
- 00:43:20 - The borders between biology and machine
- 00:46:00 - Building "mini brains"!
- 00:58:40 - Behavioral markers of consciousness
- 01:00:10 - Should AI be given the same ethical consideration as our human children?
- 01:05:16 - Do infants lack moral standing?
- 01:08:14 - Is analogue consciousness relevant?
- 01:14:06 - What do we mean by “autonomy”?
- 01:19:00 - Outro

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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.

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