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Maudlin and Palmer: Superdeterminism vs. Bell's Theorem (Debate)
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Maudlin and Palmer: Superdeterminism vs. Bell's Theorem (Debate)

YouTube link https://youtu.be/883R3JlZHXE Tim Palmer is a Royal Society Research Professor in the Department of Physics at Oxford. Tim Maudlin is a Professor of Philosophy at New York University, specializing in the philosophy of physics. We discuss superdeterminism, chaos theory, and free variables. - Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal (early access to ad-free audio episodes!) - Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE - PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802 - Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything - TOE Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch LINKS MENTIONED: - Tim Maudlin's podcast on TOE: https://youtu.be/fU1bs5o3nss - Primacy of Doubt (Tim Palmer's book): https://amzn.to/3Oo55k7 - Metaphysics Within Physics (Tim Maudlin's book): https://amzn.to/3pXHNcn - Quantum Non-Locality and Relativity (Tim Maudlin's book): https://amzn.to/44QoS2F - Go Fund Me for "The John Bell Institute" initiative: https://www.gofundme.com/f/a-permanent-home-for-the-john-bell-institute - Speakable and Unspeakable in Quantum Mechanics (John Bell's book): https://amzn.to/43RyQ2t TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:04 Explaining Superdeterminism & Fractal Cosmology 00:05:06 What is Tim Palmer working on 00:09:24 What is Tim Maudlin working on 00:11:47 Assumptions of Bell's inequality / theorem 00:22:40 Locality and Superdeterminism 00:28:33 Summary of disagreement + why do we care what Bell said? 00:32:54 Counterfactuals & Counterfactual definiteness 00:59:38 Chaos theory, attractors, and fractals 01:26:32 Free variables and ensembles 01:36:30 Invariant set theory 01:48:21 Relevant links and teaser for Part 2

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal · Theories of Everything

July 25, 20231h 54m

Show Notes

Tim Palmer, a Royal Society Research Professor at Oxford, and philosopher Tim Maudlin discuss superdeterminism, Bell’s theorem, and the implications of chaos theory and free variables for physics. Their debate examines deterministic frameworks, quantum non‑locality, and why these ideas matter for scientific explanation.

- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:02:04 - Superdeterminism & Fractal Cosmology
- 00:05:06 - Tim Palmer's work
- 00:09:24 - Tim Maudlin's work
- 00:11:47 - Bell inequality assumptions
- 00:22:40 - Locality and Superdeterminism
- 00:28:33 - Disagreement summary
- 00:32:54 - Counterfactuals
- 00:59:38 - Chaos theory
- 01:26:32 - Free variables
- 01:36:30 - Invariant set theory
- 01:48:21 - Links and Part 2 teaser

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- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/883R3JlZHXE
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- Primacy of Doubt (Tim Palmer's book): https://amzn.to/3Oo55k7
- Metaphysics Within Physics (Tim Maudlin's book): https://amzn.to/3pXHNcn
- Quantum Non-Locality and Relativity (Tim Maudlin's book): https://amzn.to/44QoS2F
- Go Fund Me for "The John Bell Institute" initiative: https://www.gofundme.com/f/a-permanent-home-for-the-john-bell-institute
- Speakable and Unspeakable in Quantum Mechanics (John Bell's book): https://amzn.to/43RyQ2t

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