Kastrup vs. Vervaeke: Idealism vs. Naturalism (Round 1 Debate)

YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWcTmeAs44I Bernardo Kastrup is the preeminent Western philosopher espousing metaphysical idealism, and John Vervaeke is an Assistant Professor at the University of Toronto focusing on the "meaning crisis" and a 3rd wave cognitive science approach to mindfulness. This is Round 1. Comment below as to what you'd like to see for Round 2. Curt's interview with JV alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p8o3-7mvQc Curt's interview with BK alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB21FAXCDE Patreon for conversations on Theories of Everything, Consciousness, Free Will, and God: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal Help support conversations like this via PayPal: https://bit.ly/2EOR0M4 Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802 Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e Discord Invite Code (as of Mar 04 2021): dmGgQ2dRzS Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything LINKS MENTIONED: JV's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke JV's "Meaning Crisis" series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_ewcOlY&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ BK's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDZCa3VrRQvzBlVR-oVVmA THANK YOU: -Phil Chertook (who has graciously served as a mini-Jamie to this TOE video). -Grizwald Grim (a volunteer from the TOE Discord) for the timestamps TIMESTAMPS: 0:00:00 Introduction 0:08:50 Green Room 0:09:43 Context Exposition 0:10:33 Intros 0:12:53 Vervaeke Deep Continuity Rationalist 0:16:18 BK Analytic Idealist - mind as foundation of matter 0:19:14 Emergent Exploration of Emergence 0:22:33 Plausibility construct, trustworthy functional elegance standard 0:26:33 Psychosocial plausibility at the heart of objectivity 0:29:12 Science and Consciousness 0:30:03 Culturally manufactured emergence 0:33:30 Normative pragmatism, lead by plausibility and probability 0:34:56 The Art of Disciplined and Justifiable Plausibility 0:36:02 Scotus and Ockham - Severing from Realism 0:38:44 Incoherent Notion of Being 0:40:48 Relativity, conceptual parsimony, parsimonious postulates & Alien Abduction 0:47:18 Individuating Consciousness 0:51:33 Standard Hume Empiricism 0:52:22 Elegance & Problematic Parsimony - why not be a realist? 0:53:40 Nominal vs Ontic partitioning 0:58:28 Questioning the Experiencer - Precisely Transcendental 1:01:18 Meta-conscious Reflective Attention 1:03:03 Hume's Straw Man 1:04:16 Self, Consciousness & Meta-consciousness 1:06:33 Dissociative Folded Experiential Reflection 1:08:08 What is the Self 1:09:33 Therapy Timeout 1:15:11 Solving the Meaning Crisis 1:17:33 Unbalanced analytic rational conceptual 1:19:17 Idolatry of Nerds 1:26:24 Fluid Compensation for Physicalist Façade 1:28:42 Where we went Wrong - Images that we call the World 1:32:27 Flat Ontologies and the Depth Dimension 1:34:21 The Obviousness of Experience & Fields of Intelligibility 1:36:54 The Normative Longing for the Transcendental Noumenal 1:40:00 Meaning and Ontology 1:44:40 Meta-meaning Worldview & The Bouncer of the Heart 1:51:05 How do you define what exists - how can we know what's real? 1:56:44 Drinking from the Fount of Intelligibility 1:58:29 Behind the Scenes 2:01:33 Where do you Disagree the Most? 2:04:33 Real Field Harmonics 2:06:11 Grounding Monism & Spinoza Modes 2:15:01 Observation Beyond Dissociative Boundaries 2:16:16 The Space/Time Framework of Language 2:18:02 New Age Disavowal 2:19:13 Difference In Kind, Dissociations of Mind 2:24:20 Emergence and the Degree/Kind Threshold 2:26:37 Inducing Dissociation in the Universal Mind 2:30:33 Meta-consciousness and Reportability 2:34:40 Jung and Meta-consciousness 2:38:00 Metacognition and Dissociation 2:43:22 Beyond the Boundary of our Own Dissociation 2:45:55 Mental, and of Dissociative Character

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