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Donald Hoffman and Joscha Bach: Is Reality Computation or Consciousness?
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Donald Hoffman and Joscha Bach: Is Reality Computation or Consciousness?

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww Deep dive into the nature of consciousness and reality. Sponsors: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off. For Algo's podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ and website https://www.algo.com/. Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802 Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch LINKS MENTIONED: -QBism Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/1003.5209 -Donald Hoffman's book The Case Against Reality (affiliate): https://amzn.to/34eWmxz -Plato and the Nerd (affiliate): https://amzn.to/34GMexr TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:34 Is a Theory of Everything possible? / Definition of Consciousness 00:08:32 Spacetime's fundamental nature (or not) 00:14:27 Joscha Bach on mysterianism, telepathy, and consciousness 00:34:40 Joscha has a way of interpreting the Bible literally 00:42:01 Physical world vs Computational world 00:57:57 On Gödel and changing the definition of truth to provable / computable 01:12:33 What parts of the mind makes statements beyond computation? 01:13:57 Real numbers don't exist? 01:15:23 [Prof. Edward Lee] Reality is not necessarily algorithmic 01:34:02 Donald Hoffman on Free Will 01:44:03 Joscha Bach on Free Will and whether a TOE exists 01:57:10 What would change in Bach's model if classical logic was correct? 02:07:42 Penrose and Lucas argument regarding Gödel and the mind 02:13:55 Closing thoughts from Bach and Hoffman on each other's work * * * Just wrapped (April 2021) a documentary called Better Left Unsaid http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com on the topic of "when does the left go too far?" Visit that site if you'd like to watch it.

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal · Theories of Everything

February 7, 20222h 21m

Show Notes

Donald Hoffman and Joscha Bach debate whether consciousness is computational and reality fundamental They debate the limits of a Theory of Everything and examine how physical and algorithmic worlds intersect.

- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:03:34 - Theory of Everything possible? / Definition of Consciousness
- 00:08:32 - Spacetime's fundamental nature (or not)
- 00:14:27 - Joscha Bach on mysterianism, telepathy, and consciousness
- 00:34:40 - Joscha has a way of interpreting the Bible literally
- 00:42:01 - Physical world vs Computational world
- 00:57:57 - Gödel and changing the definition of truth to provable / computable
- 01:12:33 - Mind parts that make statements beyond computation
- 01:13:57 - Real numbers don't exist?
- 01:15:23 - [Prof. Edward Lee] Reality is not necessarily algorithmic
- 01:34:02 - Donald Hoffman on Free Will
- 01:44:03 - Joscha Bach on Free Will and whether a TOE exists
- 01:57:10 - Changes in Bach's model if classical logic was correct
- 02:07:42 - Penrose and Lucas argument regarding Gödel and the mind
- 02:13:55 - Closing thoughts from Bach and Hoffman on each other's work

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- YouTube - https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww
- QBism Paper - https://arxiv.org/abs/1003.5209
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- Plato and the Nerd (affiliate) - https://amzn.to/34GMexr
- Better Left Unsaid documentary - http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com

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