
David Sloan Wilson: Why Dawkins Got Group Selection Wrong
YouTube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3fG96gvgLU David Sloan Wilson is an American evolutionary biologist and a Distinguished Professor of Biological Sciences and Anthropology at Binghamton University. https://twitter.com/David_S_Wilson Curt Jaimungal is directing / writing an imminent documentary Better Left Unsaid http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com on the topic of "when does the left go too far?" Visit that site if you'd like to contribute to getting the film distributed (early-2021). * * * 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:54 Is "the West" losing its values? What are those values? 00:05:24 Multi-level selection vs. Group Selection 00:11:10 The political right vs left in terms of level of evolutionary selection 00:12:51 Identity Politics framed in terms of group selection (plus a definition of Identity Politics) 00:15:04 Why can't a propitious argument made FOR Identity Politics? 00:20:05 How can we adopt a "whole Earth ethic" as a country, when others don't adopt it? 00:23:47 What do humans need to behave "selflessly" when animals get along with doing so? 00:28:16 Link between evolutionary theory and Buddhism 00:30:00 Humans are built to cooperate in small groups (not large) 00:32:49 We've selected ourselves for timidity 00:38:03 A synoptic view of "This View of Life" and the need for encompassing values 00:38:32 Classical economics (and some contemporary) is wrong and unadaptive 00:40:44 If we've been selected for altruism, why is it difficult? 00:44:54 Carl Jung and selfish acts being unselfish (because they harm you in the long-run) 00:50:24 A $1000 suit isn't to look good, but to look BETTER than the guy with a $500 suit 00:53:00 How good is altruism as a motivational agent for behavior? 00:55:54 Tribalism is the answer, not the problem 00:57:05 Problems with Social Constructionism 00:59:18 Postmodernism and David Sloan Wilson's issues with it 01:03:28 Women's studies / LGBTQ studies / etc. utilizing "tribal circuitry" 01:06:53 The "Ultimatum Game" in evolutionary psychology 01:09:55 On this "tribal circuitry" again 01:17:40 On the Nordic countries and the "homogeneity" argument 01:23:58 Is communism more adaptive than capitalism? 01:28:31 "Tight and loose" compared to totalitarian systems (existential security) 01:31:38 Which memes are prius to liberalism? 01:36:28 Are the Inuit less adapted than the White Europeans who invented centralized heating? 01:42:37 Is virtue as "honesty / forthrightness / generosity" a human universal given most studies are done on Westerners? 01:45:10 Is David Sloan Wilson a moral relativist? 01:47:38 The effects of arcane disciplines in Universities spreading outward to the culture 01:49:47 Evolutionary theory as a unifying language for the disparate fields of science 01:54:05 "When does the left go too far?" 01:56:18 Memes that last so long they affect our evolution 01:57:26 Dawkin's concept of "gene" was problematic, and thus so is "meme" 02:00:06 Jordan Peterson vs Susan Blackmore on memes and Jung 02:02:10 Chomskyan grammar and Pinker's language instinct is wrong 02:04:06 On Victor Huang's "innovation oasis"
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Show Notes
- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:01:54 - Is "the West" losing its values? What are those values?
- 00:05:24 - Multi-level selection vs. Group Selection
- 00:11:10 - The political right vs left in terms of level of evolutionary selection
- 00:12:51 - Identity Politics framed in terms of group selection (plus a definition of Identity Politics)
- 00:15:04 - Why can't a propitious argument made FOR Identity Politics?
- 00:20:05 - How can we adopt a "whole Earth ethic" as a country, when others don't adopt it?
- 00:23:47 - What do humans need to behave "selflessly" when animals get along with doing so?
- 00:28:16 - Link between evolutionary theory and Buddhism
- 00:30:00 - Humans are built to cooperate in small groups (not large)
- 00:32:49 - We've selected ourselves for timidity
- 00:38:03 - A synoptic view of "This View of Life" and the need for encompassing values
- 00:38:32 - Classical economics (and some contemporary) is wrong and unadaptive
- 00:40:44 - If we've been selected for altruism, why is it difficult?
- 00:44:54 - Carl Jung and selfish acts being unselfish (because they harm you in the long-run)
- 00:50:24 - A $1000 suit isn't to look good, but to look BETTER than the guy with a $500 suit
- 00:53:00 - How good is altruism as a motivational agent for behavior?
- 00:55:54 - Tribalism is the answer, not the problem
- 00:57:05 - Problems with Social Constructionism
- 00:59:18 - Postmodernism and David Sloan Wilson's issues with it
- 01:03:28 - Women's studies / LGBTQ studies / etc. utilizing "tribal circuitry"
- 01:06:53 - The "Ultimatum Game" in evolutionary psychology
- 01:09:55 - On this "tribal circuitry" again
- 01:17:40 - On the Nordic countries and the "homogeneity" argument
- 01:23:58 - Is communism more adaptive than capitalism?
- 01:28:31 - "Tight and loose" compared to totalitarian systems (existential security)
- 01:31:38 - Which memes are prius to liberalism?
- 01:36:28 - Are the Inuit less adapted than the White Europeans who invented centralized heating?
- 01:42:37 - Is virtue as "honesty / forthrightness / generosity" a human universal given most studies are done on Westerners?
- 01:45:10 - Is David Sloan Wilson a moral relativist?
- 01:47:38 - The effects of arcane disciplines in Universities spreading outward to the culture
- 01:49:47 - Evolutionary theory as a unifying language for the disparate fields of science
- 01:54:05 - "When does the left go too far?"
- 01:56:18 - Memes that last so long they affect our evolution
- 01:57:26 - Dawkin's concept of "gene" was problematic, and thus so is "meme"
- 02:00:06 - Jordan Peterson vs Susan Blackmore on memes and Jung
- 02:02:10 - Chomskyan grammar and Pinker's language instinct is wrong
- 02:04:06 - On Victor Huang's "innovation oasis"
RESOURCES:
- YouTube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3fG96gvgLU
- https://twitter.com/David_S_Wilson
- http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com
Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science.
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