
Theology Lab: Courage & Curiosity for Everyday Faith
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Is God Good? Why a Mother & Son See Evil Differently (BSA 7)
Going *Beyond* Simple Answers: How One of Faith's Hardest Questions Has Changed Us
What Did Job See? Or, Do You Ever Argue With God? BSA # 5
Is Jesus an Exorcist—and What Does That Mean Now?
5 Theologies of Evil: Evaluation Time!
5 Theologies of Evil: Here We Go!

S7 Ep 16When Kids Ask Hard Questions About God (and You Don't Know What to Say), with Sarah Shin
In this episode of Theology Lab, we explore one of the most important questions in spiritual formation: how do we raise children with a faith that is curious, imaginative, and resilient enough to wrestle honestly with God? Taking a brief pause from our Beyond Simple Answers series, this conversation continues the theme of seeking a deeper theological vision when easy answers fall short.Host and colleague Becca Wickham are joined by Sarah Shin, author of the children’s book 📚 The Great Waking Up 📚 alongside illustrator Shin Maeng, to discuss faith, doubt, theology and how kids engage big questions about God. With fun, fast-paced interludes answering real questions from children—like “Where is Jesus now?”—this episode is both insightful and practical.Perfect for parents, pastors, and ministry leaders, this episode offers wisdom on raising kids who keep their faith while learning to question and grow.📚 Check out Sarah and Shin's new book here! Penguin booksellers, Amazon

S8 Ep 3Unsettled: Wrestling (Personally) With Evil and God's Goodness
This episode explores the profound questions surrounding the problem of evil, God's goodness, and faith. Scott, Kristin and Greg share personal stories, theological insights, and the importance of engaging with difficult questions to deepen faith. This is the second episode in the series on creation, evil and suffering, and it takes an unexpectedly personal turn. The hosts get into theological questions about God's goodness and why the challenge of evil is so difficult, and yet why we continue to feel compelled to ask what belief in God's goodness can look like even when there is evidence and suffering in the world that would say otherwise. "Can I believe God is good despite the evidence?"👀 Key topicsThe problem of evil and sufferingTheological responses to evil and sufferingPersonal stories of faith and lossThe importance of questioning in faithThe role of Jesus and Christian principles in understanding evilLearn more about Theology Lab: www.theologylab.orgMusic Copyright code: US9BWVXXM3PYATAZ Highrock Media License Number - uB6aGE

S8 Ep 2What Do You Do When Answers to Evil & Suffering Aren't Enough?
In this first episode of Beyond Simple Answers we explore the question, Why does God create a world where evil and suffering exist? Why answers to this question don't fully satisfy, and how can we continue to explore God, faith, evil, suffering in a theological vision (engaging the Bible and more) together?Explore the profound question of why God created the world, considering theological answers, human experiences of suffering, and the implications for faith and understanding. Join us as we unpack different perspectives and wrestle with the big questions of existence.Check out Kristin’s book, We Mend With Gold! Find a local bookseller: https://tinyurl.com/MendwithgoldLocal Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/MendWithGoldLearn more about Theology Lab at www.theologylab.orgCheck out Kristin's Insta page (bookstagram) through her handle, @ktlee.writesMusic Copyright code: US9BWVXXM3PYATAZ Highrock Media License Number - uB6aGEApproximate Chapter times:00:00 Introduction to Beyond Simple Answers01:50 Exploring the Question of Creation04:30 Responses to Creation: Insights from Followers06:55 Theological Perspectives on God's Glory10:45 Human Freedom and the Nature of Evil14:20 Unpacking the Complexity of Creation17:15 Conclusion and Next Steps

S8 Ep 1Announcing (new series!) Beyond Simple Answers: Our Lingering Questions
SEARCHING FOR A THEOLOGICAL VISION WHEN SIMPLE ANSWERS FALL SHORT.Interesting? This is what Theology Lab's new series, Beyond Simple Answers is about: Explorations on faith, the Bible, theology, for a faith that is looking beyond simple answers.In the inaugural episode of the podcast "Beyond Simple Answers," hosts Scott Rice, Greg Fung, and Kristin T. Lee introduce their mission to explore complex theological questions that often elude simple answers. The podcast aims to create a space for critical inquiry within a faith context, encouraging listeners to engage with their doubts and questions rather than suppress them. Each host shares their personal journeys, highlighting their diverse backgrounds in ministry, medicine, and technology, which inform their perspectives on faith and theology. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community in navigating these discussions, aiming to foster a supportive environment for exploring challenging topics.The hosts outline the podcast's unique approach, which combines a desire to believe with critical thinking, all while operating within a church context. They express their hope to work out a shared theological vision through open dialogue, inviting listeners to join them in this exploration. The episode concludes with a teaser for the first series, which will tackle the provocative question, "Why does God create a world with so much suffering?" This question serves as a springboard for deeper discussions about faith, salvation, and the nature of God, setting the stage for future episodes that promise to engage listeners in meaningful theological inquiry.Check out Kristin’s book, We Mend With Gold! Find a local bookseller: https://tinyurl.com/MendwithgoldLocal Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/MendWithGoldTakeawaysThis podcast seeks a theological vision when simple answers fall short.We want to encourage questions and doubts in a supportive community.Critical thinking and faith can coexist in meaningful ways.Theology Lab's website: www.theologylab.orgMusic Copyright code: US9BWVXXM3PYATAZ Highrock Media License Number - uB6aGEChapters00:00 Beyond Simple Answers!00:49 Introduction to Beyond Simple Answers01:38 Meet the Hosts: Personal Journeys05:16 Goals and Unique Approach of the Podcast10:34 Teaser for the First Series: Why Did God Create a World with So Much Suffering?

S7 Ep 13Brian McLaren & Drew Jackson: Why do we ask, "Don't they know what they're doing is wrong?"
In this Theology Lab episode Scott is joined Brian McLaren and Drew Jackson. Brian McLaren and Drew Jackson are connected with the Center for Contemplation and Action, which engages with Father Richard Rohr and his life's work. This is a conversation on faith, bias, and what lies behind the question, "Don't they know what they're doing is wrong?" The conversation engages questions about reading the Bible, the pressures and power of belonging to a community, and the political biases that impact how we relate to others. What is the better way that Jesus calls his followers to in a world torn by division and contempt?Check out some of the books by our guests mentioned in the episode:📚 Drew Jackson: God Speaks through wombs📚 Brian McLaren: Why Don't They Get It?More Theology Lab episodes coming out soon, including from our Deliver Us From Evil series and Scripture & Tradition series.Theology Lab's website: www.theologylab.orgMusic Copyright code: US9BWVXXM3PYATAZ Highrock Media License Number - uB6aGE

S7 Ep 12How a Psychologist and a Theologian Disagree on Reading the Bible — Together
In this Theology Lab episode Scott is joined by clinical psychologist and a teacher at Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary, Dr. Paul Domigan, for a conversation about what to do when you encounter tensions or apparent contradictions within the Bible. Scott and Paul bring out features of a previous conversation where realized how differently they address questions like this, what lies behind their different approaches, and how they find engaging these differences not to be threats but opportunities for growth in their friendship and understanding how to read the Bible. Conversations like these try to capture what Theology Lab is about in pursuit of a faith characterized by curiosity, courage and compassion. More Theology Lab episodes coming out soon, including from our Deliver Us From Evil series and Scripture & Tradition series.Theology Lab's website: www.theologylab.orgMusic Copyright code: US9BWVXXM3PYATAZ Highrock Media License Number - uB6aGE

S7 Ep 11Current Issues: The President of World Relief on Immigration & Refugees
In this Theology Lab interview Scott talks to Myal Greene, the president and CEO of World Relief, an international humanitarian organization on the topics of immigration, refugee resettlement, and current issues. Their conversation covers how immigration and refugee resettlement connect to faith, spirituality and how Christians read the Bible. Myal offers a thoughtful perspective on not only World Relief's response to the immigration and refugee issues of our time but also how everyday Christians can think with nuance and theologically about these important topics.Learn more about World Relief at: www.worldrelief.orgCurtis Chang's interview with Myal Greene: https://tinyurl.com/42ah93u5The Center for Public Theology and Migration: https://www.theologyandmigration.com/Theology Lab's website: www.theologylab.orgMusic Copyright code: US9BWVXXM3PYATAZ Highrock Media License Number - uB6aGE

S7 Ep 10The Bible & BLM in a time of Cultural Backlash
⭐ In this Theology Lab interview, we’re joined by Dennis Edwards (North Park Seminary) and Lisa Bowens (Princeton Seminary), editors of Do Black Lives Matter?, for a thoughtful conversation at the intersection of Scripture, faith, and contemporary social movements. Together, we explore how the Bible has been read—and misread—in discussions surrounding the Black Lives Matter movement, and what faithful interpretation looks like in moments of cultural tension and resistance. Edwards and Bowens reflect on the role of biblical theology in addressing injustice, the church’s public witness, and the growing pushback against efforts aimed at equity and inclusion in public life. This episode invites listeners to engage Scripture seriously, wrestle honestly with hard questions, and consider how Christian faith speaks into today’s contested cultural landscape. 📚 Check out the books mentioned in the episode: 📚 Do Black Lives Matter? https://wipfandstock.com/9781666705416/do-black-lives-matter/ 📚Might From the Margins: https://heraldpress.com/9781513806013/might-from-the-margins/ 📚 African American Readings of Paul: https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802876768/african-american-readings-of-paul/ Music Copyright code: US9BWVXXM3PYATAZ Highrock Media License Number - uB6aGE

S7 Ep 9Munther Isaac & Mary Speta on War, Trafficking & How to Love One's Enemy
A Theology Lab podcast on faith and justice amidst suffering and evil. Rev. Munther Isaac—known for his influential sermon “Christ in the Rubble”—and Mary Speta, Executive Director of Amirah, discuss how faith helps them love amidst impossible situations. The conversation addresses theology and the message of Scripture. Together, they offer thoughtful theological reflection on some of today’s most challenging global issues: war, human trafficking, trauma, and the radical call to love one’s enemy. Designed for learners, students, and anyone seeking to deepen their understanding of Christian moral discernment, this Theology Lab session (part of the Deliver Us From Evil series).Rev. Munther Isaac brings pastoral insight shaped by conflict and suffering, while Mary Speta offers an expert, survivor-informed perspective on exploitation and restorative justice. Key learning themes include: Christian approaches to understanding war, violence, and human suffering How faith communities can respond to human trafficking with wisdom and compassion The call to love one’s enemy and its implications for discipleship, as well as reflecting on how to deal with anger ➡️ Learn more about the organization Mary leads: https://www.amirahinc.org/ Check out Rev. Munther's book: https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802885548/christ-in-the-rubble/The interview includes licensed music (Artlist): I Promise by Ian Post (ian-post)Learn more about Theology Lab: www.theologylab.org

S7 Ep 8Dreams, Visions & the Bible: Reading Scripture on Turtle Island (2)
How should we think about dreams, visions and the Bible? The authors of Reading the Bible on Turtle Island walk us through this question and their fascinating book. This is a Theology Lab educational conversation with the authors of Reading the Bible on Turtle Island: Invitation to North American Indigenous Interpretation, Danny Zacharias and Chris Hoklotubbe. The video looks at how to read Scripture in light of an Indigenous - Native American, First Peoples - lens.👀 This is part 2, which looks at how to understand dreams, visions and connections between the Bible and land (through stories). Alongside an exploration of the Bible, how to understand dreams and visions in relationship to Scripture, this conversation begins with the question about understanding Creator's presence on Turtle Island before settlers arrived.If part 2 on dreams, visions, the Bible and more interests you, check out part 1 of the interview for more on key ideas that underlie reading the Bible on Turtle Island.➡️ Scott is joined in this interview his colleague, Pastor Robert Bloodworth.The interview includes licensed music (Artlist): Rephrase by Nadav Cohen.📚 Be sure to check out Danny and Chris's book here: https://www.ivpress.com/reading-the-bible-on-turtle-island?srsltid=AfmBOop_nrX-GkvgvW5hH3uvFvWZn8vaqde4-J0jUxBX9b1cY1CLXtlI ➡️YouTube: https://youtu.be/stgweHHxMf4Learn more about Theology Lab: www.theologylab.org

S7 Ep 7Turtle Island, the Bible and Indigenous Faith (1)
How can we (Indigenous and Non-idegnoues alike) learn about reading the Bible from Indigenous Christians and their explorations of faith? How can this inform our theology and what it means to live on (and with) the land in which we find ourselves?This is a Theology Lab educational interview with the authors of Reading the Bible on Turtle Island: Invitation to North American Indigenous Interpretation, H. Daniel Zacharias and T. Christopher Hoklotubbe, looks at how to read the Bible in light of a Indigenous (Native American, First Peoples) lens. It also answers the question, what does Turtle Island mean? The interview touches on key topics like why continue to return to the Bible when it has been used against Indigenous people groups in many ways, the importance of ancestry, land, and specific rituals for an Indigenous Christian faith and reading of Scripture, and more.This is part 1 of the interview. Part 2 will look at Indigenous readings of the Bible and topics like dreams and vision (how might understanding dreams and vision, both today and in the biblical setting) connect to faith and reading Scripture, as well as focused readings that look how Indigenous Christians connect lived experiences (lifeways), both their own and their ancestors, with prominent themes in the Bible. As we see in this interview, an Indigenous reading of the Bible can open up insights and new depths of understanding for those who identify as Native American, First Peoples, and non-Indigenous readers of Scripture.➡️ Scott is joined in this interview his colleague, Pastor Robert Bloodworth.➡️ The interview includes licensed music (Artlist): Rephrase by Nadav Cohen.📚 Be sure to check out Danny and Chris's book here: https://www.ivpress.com/reading-the-bible-on-turtle-island?srsltid=AfmBOop_nrX-GkvgvW5hH3uvFvWZn8vaqde4-J0jUxBX9b1cY1CLXtlI➡️ Prefer video? See the interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/H7ZiNfrhp-A

S7 Ep 6How is the Bible God's word AND human words? Tim Mackie
Recorded on January 16, 2024.This episode features Tim Mackie from the BibleProject. It explores questions of biblical interpretation, Scripture, faith and history, and, as the BibleProject emphasizes, how the Bible comes together to form a unified story.Highrock's Scripture & Tradition series looks at some of the basic tools that can help us understand the Bible. How can we view the Bible as simultaneously divine and human literature? If this question piques your interest, this episode may interest you! In this conversation, moderator Scott Rice is joined by Tim Mackie, co-founder of the Bible Project, for the second installment of the Scripture & Tradition Theology Lab series. This discussion looks at the BibleProject's Paradigm podcast series, exploring how the biblical authors intended the Bible to be read. For the folks at the BibleProject, the principles of the Paradigm help set up Bible readers for a life-long journey of coming to better understand the scriptures and how they can transform our faith and encourage a deeper love for God and others.https://bibleproject.com/podcast/series/paradigm/Learn more about Highrock's Theology Lab: highrock.org/theologylabfacebook: / highrocktheologylabContains licensed music from Artlist: rex banner, "brainstorm"

S7 Ep 5Christian Nationalism - Russell Moore's view
Recording of the American Evangelicalism Theology Lab session from November 11, 2022 with guest, Rev. Dr. Russell Moore (Christianity Today).In this discussion, moderated by Rev. Dr. Walter Kim (president, National Association of Evangelicals), Russell Moore shares some personal stories about his relation to faith and political engagement. Russell speaks to the looming issue of Christian Nationalism, and what it means for Christians today to maintain both integrity and faithfulness in the public sphere. In the final part of his discussion with Walter Kim, Russell speaks to the crisis that evangelicalism faces today and the possibilities for revitalization and the formation of new coalitions within the evangelical movement.Learn more about Highrock's Theology Lab: highrock.org/theologylabfacebook: / highrocktheologylabContains licensed music from Artlist: rex banner, "brainstorm"

S7 Ep 4How did we get the Bible? Karen Keen
This interview with Karen Keen, author of the Word of a Humble God (Eerdmans, 2022), explores topics around biblical interpretation, how to engage challenging parts of Scripture, stories about war and violence in the Bible, biblical interpretation methods. Karen's book has been described as a top resource for an introduction to the Bible (Scripture) and introduction to scriptural interpretation. How can we read the Bible in light of God's humility and hear God's voice anew? Karen's book! https://www.amazon.com/Word-Humble-God-Inspiration-Interpretation/dp/0802878695 Learn more about Highrock's Theology Lab: highrock.org/theologylabfacebook: / highrocktheologylabContains lisenced, original music (licensed) from Ian Post, "I Promise"

S7 Ep 3Why I Changed My Mind: Women & Leadership in the Church
In this Theology Lab Kristin and Scott take up a big question: When and why did we change our mind on a deeply personal topic? This is a question that many of us ask, or are asking from time to time, in our faith. Here we ask about women in ministry or women serving in the highest levels of pastoral leadership. At one point both of us considered ourselves theological complementarians -- the idea that women and men have specific roles within at least the sphere of the church, even if considered equal in the eyes of God -- yet we have changed our minds. We would now consider ourselves theological egalitarians, holding that all roles in church leadership can be filled by all, and that we can celebrate this in our faith. But how did we go from one to the other? How did the Bible play a role in this? How did experience play a role in this? Our conversation is spurred on my our interview with Beth Allison Barr and her recent book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife. The conversation also centers on how Beth inspired us to think about how we navigate different voices on the Bible.Check out Beth's book here: https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/9781587435898_becoming-the-pastors-wifeLearn more about Theology Lab at www.theologylab.orgTheology is a learning community supported by Highrock Church. www.highrock.org#TheologyBasics #ChristianFaith #womenandthechurchContains (licensed) original music (licensed) from Ian Post, "I Promise"

S7 Ep 15How Women Have Led In Church (and Are) - Beth Allison Barr
In this insightful Theology Lab conversation, historian and theologian Beth Allison Barr explores the Bible, women, and the role of women pastors in the church. We examine what Scripture really says about gender, leadership, and ministry, and how historical and cultural context shapes our understanding of these debated issues. Perfect for non-expert Christians, curious believers, and anyone still in the church wrestling with big theological questions, this video offers a thoughtful, nuanced approach to reading the Bible and engaging with gender and leadership in a faithful way. If you’re interested in theological learning, Bible study for ordinary Christians, and nuanced conversations about women in ministry, this discussion with Beth Allison Barr provides clarity, historical insight, and encouragement for exploring Scripture with honesty and depth. Check out Beth's new book! https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587434709_the-making-of-biblical-womanhood Contains original music (licensed) from Ian Post, "I Promise"#BethAllisonBarr #biblicalwomanhood #womeninthebible

S7 Ep 14What does Evil look like in the Bible? Willie Jennings and Janette Ok
Video version: https://youtu.be/5PiffZEeBhk?si=2QWsXPEvv6m9MJzVWhat do Christians mean when we talk about evil, and how does the Bible shape our understanding of it? In this Theology Lab video with Willie Jennings (Yale Divinity School) and Janette Ok (Fuller Seminary), we explore the complex and often uncomfortable question: what do we call evil, and how do we recognize it in the world and in ourselves? They discuss Christian Nationalism and what Jesus's prayer, "deliver us from evil," means to them right now. We look at topics like evil, hate, evil, the anti-Christ. Looking at the gospels, the book of Acts, the letters of John (1 John, 2 John, 3 John), this Theology Lab conversation with Willie Jennings and Janette Ok trace how Scripture defines evil, how the church has wrestled with it, and what it means for believers today. This conversation is designed for Christians and anyone navigating faith, theology, the Bible in community. If you’re interested in theological learning, biblical study, and wrestling honestly with hard questions in faith, this video offers a thoughtful, contextual, and faithful approach. Check out the New Testament in Color commentary, which features work by Janette Ok (editor): https://www.ivpress.com/the-new-testament-in-color?srsltid=ARcRdnpFzsrsUSdD0pXrGLggUKgePS8WRb24I-C8wU10orQqf3NCetco Check out Willie Jennings' Act's Commentary: https://www.amazon.com/Acts-Theological-Commentary-Bible-Belief/dp/0664234003Contains original music (licensed) from Ian Post, "I Promise"0:00 Introduction2:00 What is evil and sin? 7:00 Discomfort with "the Anti-Christ"? 8:45 Why don't we respond to seeing violence? 15:25 The disciples are tied to the prison 16:45 Why theology matters 20:06 How do the Bible's authors struggle to name evil? 25:20 Correcting self-righteousness 27:20 1 John and evil 30:10 Can worship resist evil? 34:50 Are Christian Nationalists suffering disciples? 38:05 Evil and unity in community 40:50 "Deliver us from evil" means...

S7 Ep 2Think theology is just for experts? Think again. What it means for ordinary Christians to do theology
Want to watch the episode? https://youtu.be/J_V6uHYxnbYIn this Theology Lab Conversations episode (episode #1!) Scott Rice and Greg Fung ask a big question: Is theology only for non-experts, or is it something every Christian is called to engage? This conversation explores the basics of theology, how ordinary believers can grow in their understanding of essentials, of interpreting the Bible, and why learning to think theologically matters for the church in light of some the major challenges and questions were asking today. Whether you identify as evangelical, exvangelical, or simply someone with your own questions about faith, our hope is that this series offers something interesting and accessible for theological learning. We talk about how to read the Bible with curiosity, how theology shapes Christian community, and why good questions are essential for a healthy and vibrant faith. Learn more about Theology Lab at www.theologylab.orgTheology is a learning community supported by Highrock Church. www.highrock.org#TheologyBasics #ChristianFaith #Deconstruction #PostEvangelicalContains original music (licensed) from Ian Post, "I Promise"

S7 Ep 1New Series! Theology Lab's 'Conversations' - Intro episode
Want to watch the episode? https://youtu.be/J_V6uHYxnbYIn this episode of Conversations -- a new Theology Lab series! -- we explore foundational topics of Christian faith in an accessible, honest, and thoughtful way. Designed for ordinary Christians, for folks coming from evangelical backgrounds, post-evangelicals, folks who might identify as deconstructing faith but also just for who are curious, the Conversations series offers a safe space to learn through discussions. We talk about the core themes of theology— ideas about God, interacting with the Bible in different ways, social issues, and how Christian belief has been shaped through history and community. If you’re interested in theological learning, reflecting on what you’ve inherited, continuing to work on an honest, shared faith, we hope the Conversations series might provide clarity, grounding, and room for questions. Whether you’re rooted in the evangelical tradition, shifting or searching, this series invites you to explore basics of Christian theology with curiosity, depth, and grace.Learn more about Theology Lab at www.theologylab.orgTheology is a learning community supported by Highrock Church. www.highrock.org#TheologyBasics #ChristianFaith #Deconstruction #PostEvangelicalContains original music (lisenced) from Ian Post, "I Promise"0:00 Introduction1:05 Goals: theology basics, commentary, ongoing conversation!3:22 An evangelical background ... but with questions4:40 Is theology only for experts?

S6 Ep 9Can advent and Christmas inspire kids AND adults to a deeper, more reflective faith? Sarah Shin & Shin Maeng explain how it can
In this interview, Sarah Shin (author, writer, theologian; Beyond Colorblind) and Shin Maeng (artist, illustrator, storyteller; shinhappens.com) join Scott Rice for a discussion about their new children's story book, The Deliverer Has Come (Penguin Randomhouse). https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/721873/the-deliverer-has-come-by-sarah-shin-illustrated-by-shin-maeng/ https://www.amazon.com/Deliverer-Has-Come-Christmas-Story-ebook/dp/B0CPDVZZMS They discuss how children's books can help illuminate our faith, our understandings of God, and how we read and imagine the Bible and its importance for our faith lives. They also cover topics such as parenting and how the whole community helps care for the next generation in raising them in the faith. Learn more about Highrock's Theology Lab: www.highrock.org/theologylab Check out the artwork of Shin Maeng at www.shinhappen.com Podcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S6 Ep 8Does it matter God entered the world through (only) a female body? - Amy Peeler
In this Theology Lab conversation Scott talks to Amy Peeler again about the meaning of the virgin birth and what we miss when we look only at questions about whether or not it happened (apologetics). Amy directs us into some fascinating questions and considerations. What does it mean that when God enters the world, God does so through a female body, the virgin Mary's body, and a female body alone? What significance does this have for how we think about God, about gender and more? A conversation that is sure to help stir your theological imagination!Amy will be at Highrock for a Theology Lab hosted event with the Holy Post on November 23! Check it out here (tickets available): https://www.eventbrite.com/e/an-evening-with-the-holy-post-arlington-ma-tickets-1758214911129?aff=oddtdtcreatorCheck out Amy's book! Women and the Gender of God: https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802879097/women-and-the-gender-of-god/Podcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S6 Ep 7What do we do with violence in the Bible? What about violence and God in Scripture? Greg Boyd has a unique take
In this Theology Lab podcast theologian and pastor (and long-time advocate of open theism) Greg Boyd challenges us to rethink passages on violence in the Bible and what they reveal about the character of God. Should Christians take depictions of divine violence at face value, or read them through the lens of Jesus and the cross? Boyd invites viewers to explore Scripture with honesty, humility, and faith, asking how difficult texts fit into the bigger story of God’s redemptive love. Perfect for non-expert Christians, curious believers, and those still in the church but wrestling with big theological questions, this conversation offers a fresh, accessible approach to biblical interpretation, violence in Scripture, and nuanced faith. #GregBoyd #ViolenceInTheBible #Bible #God #Scripture check out Greg's book! https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9781506455624/Inspired-ImperfectionPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S6 Ep 6Is God male? Does God have gender? Amy Peeler has thoughts!
In this Theology Lab conversation, Dr. Amy Peeler (Wheaton College), New Testament scholar and theologian, helps us explore what the Bible says about gendered language for God. Is God male? Does God transcend gender? How can Christians approach Scripture, theology, and gender with both faithfulness and curiosity? This video is perfect for those interested in Christian faith, theological learning, and reflecting on traditional images of God and how to think about God today. If you're asking how gender, the Bible, and God intersect—this is for you. Ideal for people exploring faith, feminist theology, and nuanced biblical interpretation, this conversation invites you to consider how we speak of God, and why it matters.Amy will be at Highrock for a Theology Lab hosted event with the Holy Post on November 23! Check it out here (tickets available): https://www.eventbrite.com/e/an-evening-with-the-holy-post-arlington-ma-tickets-1758214911129?aff=oddtdtcreatorCheck out Amy's book! Women and the Gender of God: https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802879097/women-and-the-gender-of-god/Podcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S6 Ep 5How does the Bible connect to poetry? How does poetry illuminate Scripture? Drew Jackson is the person to ask
In this Theology Lab podcast, Drew Jackson, author of God Speaks Through Wombs and Touch the Earth (linked below) discusses his poetry and how to read the Bible. Drew's Theology Lab interview connects reading Scripture, interpreting the Bible, and theological insights into poetry with the questions that many are asking about God and living faith. How does God show up in surprising places? How is it possible to think about God and salvation through being 'brought low', as in the open chapter's of Luke's gospel. #poetryandthebible #everythingbelongs #drewjackson Check out Drew's book here: God Speaks Through Wombs: https://www.ivpress.com/god-speaks-through-wombs Touch the Earth: https://www.ivpress.com/touch-the-earthPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S6 Ep 4What is Penal Substitution (PSA) and atonement? And can we have more Christ-like conversations about Christ's death? Brad East has something to say
In this Theology Lab episode Greg and Scott talk to Brad East, theology professor at Abilene Christian University. Brad recently published (September/October 2025) an article in Christianity Today called 'The Way We Debate Atonement Is a Mess.' It tracks why some people love penal substitutionary atonement (PSA), why some are harshly critical of this idea of salvation, and then steps back and asks how we can have a better conversation. Greg, Scott and Brad get into a host of other conversations about the Bible and interpreting Scripture and theology, like whether penal substitution could ever become the definitive expression of salvation or whether there is something so mysterious about the cross and resurrection of Jesus that defies a singular explanation.Check out Brad's article at CT here: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/09/penal-substitutionary-atonement-debate-theology/Also, Brad recently published the book, Letters to a Future Saint, available here: https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802883872/letters-to-a-future-saint/Podcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S6 Ep 3How can we discover God's word in human words in Revelation (and the Bible)? Scott Rice
In this Scripture & Tradition Theology Lab episode (podcast version only!), Theology Lab's host Scott Rice shares a sermon relevant to this series. The sermon is on engaging the challenging parts of the book of Revelation, Scripture's final book that contains images of wild beasts, great destruction and cosmic warfare. Perhaps more difficult than some of this imagery is the portrayal of retributive justice and vengeance, the culmination of a much awaited new creation through violence and bloodshed. How should we understand these different elements of Revelation? Can a wider reading of Scripture or a perspective on the incarnation of Jesus, also an important theme in Revelation, assist us? Scott explores these questions and more -- all in hopes of reading sacred Scripture to become more like Christ, discern God's will, and become a people of greater hope in what God will do. #revelation #scripture #theologyLearn more about Riverwalk church (Brookline, MA) here: https://riverwalkboston.church/Podcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S6 Ep 2How can we connect orthodoxy, race, ethnicity, and the New Testament? Esau McCaulley is on the question!
In this Theology Lab podcast Bible scholar, author of Reading While Black, and Holy Post podcast host Esau McCaulley invites us to read the Bible through the lens of ethnic and cultural diversity, showing how Scripture speaks powerfully into today’s conversations on race, identity, and justice. What does it mean to bring your whole cultural self to the task of Bible interpretation? McCaulley invites viewers to embrace a more inclusive, faithful approach to biblical study—one rooted in the rich traditions of the global church. If you’re interested in Christian faith, reading the Bible, and exploring how theology and diversity intersect, this video offers fresh insight and deep encouragement. Check out this edited volume, a biblical commentary, on the New Testament here: https://www.ivpress.com/the-new-testament-in-color 👍 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more on faith, Scripture, and cultural identity. #EsauMcCaulley #BibleInColor #BibleStudy #TheologicalLearningPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S6 Ep 1New Series! Teasers for Scripture & Tradition, season 2
Here's the introduction episode, with some exciting teasers, from Theology Lab's Scripture and Tradition series. Episodes will come out at least every other week. This series is meant to help us think about how we approach the Bible, deal with challenges in Scripture reflect on questions like ethnicity, race, sexuality and gender, and more when it comes to reading the Bible and thinking theologically. The work of Theology Lab, an offering of Highrock church, is about furthering a more nuanced and curious faith. Check out more with Theology Lab at www.theologylab.orgPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 11Want to participate in live theology discussions on evil (theodicy) with well known guests? Theology Lab's current series!
Theology Lab's 2025/26 discussion series! Learn more/Register: Deliver Us From Evil: Faith In the Face of Human Sufferinghttps://www.highrock.org/theologylab/theology-lab-2025?mc_cid=aba046ddd1&mc_eid=30ec3d28f8This year’s Theology Lab – Deliver Us From Evil – features Dominique Gilliard, Tim Mackie, Nicholas Kristof, Kaitlyn Scheiss, Russell Moore, Janette Ok, Willie Jennings, Munther Isaac, Miroslav Volf, Matthew Ichihashi Potts, Mary Speta, Drew Jackson, Brian McLaren, and Yi-An Huang! This free online series, open to individuals, groups and churches, reflects on Scripture, theological questions, and what faithful responses to suffering might look like.The series runs live, is free, and is open to all individuals, groups, and churches.Learn more about Theology Lab at www.theologylab.orgPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 10How do families deal with faith, conflict and issues like gun ownership? Kellie Carter Jackson & Edward Jackson tell us their story
💬 Faith and Family Conflict: Patriarchy, Guns, and more with Kellie Carter Jackson (Wellesley College, author of We Refuse) & Edward Jackson (instructor and owner of 333 Jiu Jitsu). In this honest and powerful conversation, Kellie Carter Jackson and Edward Jackson (brother-and-sister-in-law) dive into the real-life tensions many Christians face around faith and family conflict. From disagreements over patriarchy, guns and gun ownership, and political divides, to navigating tough topics with love and wisdom, this video offers a nuanced, faith-based approach to handling difficult relationships. Rooted in biblical principles, theological learning, and curious faith, this discussion is perfect for anyone exploring how to engage family and faith with both conviction and compassion. If you're interested in Christian faith, the Bible, and how to have hard conversations about gender roles, topics like family values, this video offers practical insight and spiritual encouragement.Youtube version of this conversation: https://youtu.be/4yOq1RWGQzYCheck out Kellie's book, We Refuse: https://www.kelliecarterjackson.com/booksEdward Jackson's studio: https://www.333jiujitsu.com/👍 Like, comment, and subscribe for more content on faith, family, and meaningful conversations. #FaithAndFamily #ChristianFaith #gunownershipLearn more about Theology Lab at www.theologylab.orgPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 9Can two people with different views on abortion disagree and share friendship? Mako Nagasawa & Elizabeth Grady-Harper do just this
How should Christians engage with the pro-life and pro-choice conversation in a way that reflects both faith and reason alongside reference to the Bible and theology? In this video, we explore different Christian perspectives on this deeply personal and ethical issue, considering how Scripture, theology, and science shape beliefs. Rather than reinforcing division, we seek a thoughtful, compassionate approach that moves beyond the usual arguments. Can people of faith find common ground? How do science, ethics, and biblical interpretation influence these views? If you're interested in Christian faith, open-minded theological discussions, and ethical questions, this video is for you. Join the conversation as we navigate faith, morality, and complex ethical issues with grace and understanding. 📚 Check out Mako's book: https://wipfandstock.com/978172527189... 👀 Elizabeth is the director of the Boston Faith & Justice Network. Check out their resources here: https://www.bostonfaithjustice.org/ 👍 Like, comment, and subscribe for more discussions on faith, theology, and nuanced Christian conversations! #ChristianFaith #ProLife #ProChoice Learn more about Theology Lab at www.theologylab.orgPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 8How can two people with different views on being Gay and Christian connect? Sally Gary and Gregory Coles know all about this
This Theology Lab video looks at what it means to be Gay and Christian from two different views. Moreover, it considers what friendship and church looks like across differences. In this respectful and thoughtful conversation, authors and faith leaders Sally Gary and Gregory Coles share two distinct perspectives on LGBTQ+ identity, Christian faith, and the Bible. This video is ideal for those exploring theological learning, curious faith, and more nuanced conversations around sexuality within the church. Perfect for folks looking for a different kind of conversation being gay, Christianity, and the church, or those looking to engage Scripture and identity with honesty, compassion, and depth. If you're navigating questions of faith, sexuality and how two thoughtful Christians who care about the Bible and deep thinking life speak into these topics, this video offers a space for thoughtful reflection and respectful dialogue. Check out Greg's book, Single, Gay Christian: https://www.gregorycoles.com/book-single-gay-christian/ Check out Sally's book, Affirming: https://www.eerdmans.com/9781467460880/affirming/ Check out Sally's organization: https://www.centerpeace.net/about #GayAndChristian #LGBTQLearn more about Theology Lab at www.highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 7How does a famous Christian activist talk to people he disagrees with about sensitive topics like war, guns, social media and politics? Shane Claiborne
In this Theology Lab conversation with author and activist Shane Claiborne (Red Letter Christians) looks at the Bible explores the tensions between Christian faith, war, politics, and justice and more. What does it mean to follow Jesus and engage the Christian scriptures in a world of violence and division? Can Christians support peace while engaging in public life? This video is perfect for those pursuing theological learning, nurturing a curious faith, or rethinking how Scripture, justice, and politics intersect. It also engages questions about using social media critically. Ideal for both evangelical Christians and post-evangelicals, for justice-minded believers, and anyone exploring a deeper, more nuanced Christian faith. #ShaneClaiborne #ChristianFaith #TheologyAndPolitics Follow Shane's group, Red Letter Christians: https://redletterchristians.org/ Learn more about Theology Lab at www.highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 6President, Evangelical Covenant Church: Tammy Swanson-Draheim
Rev. Tammy Swanson-Draheim is the president of the Evangelical Covenant Church. In this Theology Lab interview she answers questions about how she navigates conflict within her leadership role, how she works to build trust amidst conflict and challenging relationships. She also reflects on other pressing questions, like how to respond to the rise in Christian Nationalism and how this church tradition handles biblical or scriptural interpretation -- how do we understand the Bible as God's word to us alongside our imperfect interpretations of Scripture? She is the first woman to serve as the president of the Evangelical Covenant Church. The conversation is moderated by Pastor Meghan DeJong. #faithleadership #conflictsolutions #churchleadershipLearn more about Theology Lab at www.highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 5Christians & the Immigration Debate - Matthew Soerens (World Relief)
In this Theology Lab video podcast with Matthew Soerens of World Relief, we look at how Christian faith, the Bible, and public policy intersect in the ongoing immigration debate. What does the Bible say about welcoming the stranger? How should followers of Jesus engage immigration with both truth, justice and compassion? This conversation is ideal for those interested in theological learning, curious faith, and rethinking immigration from a Christian perspective. Perfect for viewers exploring Scripture, God’s heart for justice, and navigating politics and faith in a more nuanced, compassionate way. #ImmigrationAndFaith #WorldRelief #immigrationdebate Learn more about World Relief here, and help support the work that Matt is doing to help resettle refugees: https://worldrelief.org Welcoming the Stranger, Jenny Yang and Matthew Soerens: https://worldrelief.org/welcoming-the-stranger/Podcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 4Faith & National/Local Politics - Lanhee Chen & Yi-An Huang
This is the second installment in Theology Lab's Critical Conversations series. In this session, Lanhee Chen (fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, former chief policy advisor for Mit Romney's 2012 presidential campaign, and former member of the George W. Bush administration) and Yi-An Huang (the City Manager of Cambridge, Massachusetts, engage in a conversation about politics, faith, and friendship. This topic addresses: politics and difference, the challenges and opportunities of political engagement, how faith informs one's approach to politics and issues of political conflict, and how faith informs our approach to relationships that can help navigate political differences. The Theology Lab series will continue this year will interviews with Shane Claiborne, Sally Gary, Kellie Carter Jackson, Gregory Coles, and others. Learn more about Theology Lab at www.highrock.org/theologylab#politics #christianity Podcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 3Stanley Hauerwas & Jonathan Tran - Christians & Politics
The YouTube version (with subtitles) of this interview with Stanley Hauerwas and Jonathan Tran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbJaZ5B9IugIn this interview with Stanley Hauerwas, named by Time Magainze as "the best theologian" in America, and Jonathan Tran, author of Asian Americans and the Spirit of Racial Capitalism, two theologians offer their perspectives on how Christians engage in political life as Christians. This interview covers topics such as faith and theology, Scripture, how Christians might approach voting, political parties, baptism as a way of life and a marker of polity, and the meaning of truth telling, honesty, and faithfulness in public life.Check out Jonathan Tran's book, Asian Americans and the Spirit of Racial Capitalism: https://www.amazon.com/Americans-Spirit-Capitalism-REFLECTION-RELIGION/dp/0197617913Stanley Hauerwas's, the Peaceable Kingdom: https://undpress.nd.edu/9780268015541/the-peaceable-kingdom/#Hauerwas #church #politicsLearn more about Theology Lab highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 2New Season! Critical Conversations - Conflict, Disagreement & Christ-centered Community
Welcome to a new season of Theology Lab: Critical Conversations - Conflict, Disagreement & Christ-centered Community. This series explores topics that tend to divide Christians, like abortion, LGBTQ+ and same-sex relationships and the church, politics and family dynamics. We have guests like Shane Claiborne, Stanley Hauerwas, Sally Gary, Kellie Carter Jackson and many more! #theology #scripture #lgbtq #churchLearn more about Theology Lab highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S5 Ep 1Who is Pope Leo XIV? David Cloutier (Notre Dame University)
In this Theology Lab podcast, Notre Dame theologian David Cloutier introduces viewers to Pope Leo XIV, the newly elected Pope and head of the Roman Catholic church. Prof. Cloutier introduces us to Pope Leo XIV, the significance of his choice of name (Leo) and some things to expect in his papacy. The conversation also touches on his American roots and American politics. Whether you’re curious about Catholic social teaching, the history of Christian faith, or how theology and culture shape the Church’s mission today, this conversation offers rich insights. Check out David's award winning book, The Vice of Luxury: https://press.georgetown.edu/Book/The-Vice-of-Luxury 👍 Subscribe for more podcasts on theology, church history, and Christian learning. #PopeLeo #PopeLeoXIV #CatholicSocialTeaching #ChristianFaithLearn more about Theology Lab highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.

S4 Ep 9Does Black Faith Matter? - Prof. Dennis Edwards
This episode features Dean Dennis Edwards, New Testament Professor and dean of North Park Theological Seminary. In this final episode in Highrock's Black Theology course, Dennis speaks to the dynamic nature of Black faith and its endurance over time. He also addresses resistance to the idea of Black Lives Matter and shows how a focus on the particularity of Black lives leads us to greater concern for justice everywhere.This episode is part of Highrock Church's Black Theology Class. Email [email protected] to learn more. Here's a free discussion guide: https://live-highrock-network.pantheonsite.io/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/DiscussionGuideBlackTheology2022v2-1.pdfIf you (or your small group) use this resource, we'd love to know! Email Scott @ [email protected] more about Highrock church at www.highrock.orgLearn more about Theology Lab highrock.org/theologylabCheck out a co-edited volume by Dr. Edwards, Do Black Lives Matter? here: https://www.revdrdre.com/do-black-lives-matter#:~:text=This%20volume%20is%20a%20collection,of%20Scripture%20to%20this%20resilience.Podcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.#theology #BlackLivesMatter #BlackTheology #ChristianFaith #biblestudy

S4 Ep 8What is Womanism? - Prof. M. Shawn Copeland
This theology related episode explores how Womanist theology emerges. It is part of Highrock's Black theology course, featuring Prof. M. Shawn Copeland. This episode dives deep into how faith, Scripture, and theology speak to the lived experiences of Black women, addressing themes of justice, liberation, and resilience. Rooted in Black theology and African American faith traditions, Womanist Theology centers the voices of Black women in the fight for equality within both the church and society. How does the Bible inform this movement? What role does Christian faith play in the pursuit of justice and wholeness? Perfect for those studying the Bible, African American theology, and Black women's faith, this video unpacks transformative theological perspectives. Subscribe for more on faith, theology, the Bible and justice.This episode is part of Highrock Church's Black Theology Class. Email [email protected] to learn more. Here's a free discussion guide: https://live-highrock-network.pantheonsite.io/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/DiscussionGuideBlackTheology2022v2-1.pdfIf you (or your small group) use this resource, we'd love to know! Email Scott @ [email protected] more about Highrock church at www.highrock.orgLearn more about Theology Lab highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.#theology #womanism #BlackTheology #ChristianFaith #biblestudy

S4 Ep 7The Civil Rights Movement: Faith Inspired Origins - Prof. Dennis Edwards
Rev. Dr. Dennis Edwards (dean, North Park Seminary) teaches the faith underpinnings that fueled the Civil Rights Movement. In this powerful and thought-provoking episode, Dr. Edwards explores the spiritual roots of the movement, revealing the ways in which Black theology and faith informed the actions and decisions of its leaders. From the role of the Black Church to the intersection of faith and activism, Prof. Edwards sheds light on the crucial yet often-ignored theological underpinnings of this pivotal moment in American history. Deepen your understanding of the Civil Rights Movement and how faith played a key role in it. This episode is part of Highrock Church's Black Theology Class. Email [email protected] to learn more. Here's a free discussion guide: https://live-highrock-network.pantheonsite.io/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/DiscussionGuideBlackTheology2022v2-1.pdfIf you (or your small group) use this resource, we'd love to know! Email Scott @ [email protected] more about Highrock church at www.highrock.orgLearn more about Theology Lab highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.#BlackTheology #CivilRightsMovement #ChristianFaith #FaithAndJustice #BibleStudy #theology

S4 Ep 6Black Liberation Theology - Its Beginnings - Prof. Michelle Clifton
Catch this episode on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zli9ETZZLv4Explore the foundations of Black theology in this insightful conversation with Professor Michelle Clifton. This episode unpacks the rich history, biblical roots, and social justice implications of Black theology, offering a powerful perspective on faith, Scripture, and the Black church. Perfect for those passionate about Christian faith, justice, theology, and the Bible, this introduction explores how Black theology engages with issues of oppression, liberation, and divine justice. How does faith empower marginalized communities? What does Scripture say about justice and equality? Join us as we examine these critical questions and more. If you're curious about theological learning, the role of the Black church, and the intersection of faith and justice, this video is for you. Don’t miss this chance to deepen your understanding of Black theology and its impact on Christian thought. The episode also connects Black Theology and parts of the Evangelical Covenant Church tradition.Here's a link to the discussion guide for this Black Theology course: https://live-highrock-network.pantheonsite.io/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/DiscussionGuideBlackTheology2022v2-1.pdfIf you (or your small group) use this resource, we'd love to know! Email Scott @ [email protected] more about Highrock church at www.highrock.orgLearn more about Theology Lab highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.#Blacktheology #liberationtheology #theology #faith

S4 Ep 5Lynching & the Cross of Jesus - Prof. Aaron Griffith
EVideo version of this episode: https://youtu.be/6Ft8QRYoAT0Prof. Aaron Griffith (Duke Divinity School) features in fourth class in Highrock's Black Theology course. Aaron's talk focuses on the troubling but important history of lynching in the United States. As part of the Black Theology class, Aaron sheds light on the connection between lynching history and the cross, a central symbol to the Christian faith. Aaron is drawing here from the work of the late Black theologian James Cone (The Cross and the Lynching Tree). The class brings attention to critical aspects of Black history in America. Check out Aaron Griffith's award winning book on evangelicalism and the recent history/politics of punishment, God's Law and Order: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674238787 Here's a link to the discussion guide for this Black Theology course: https://live-highrock-network.pantheonsite.io/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/DiscussionGuideBlackTheology2022v2-1.pdf If you (or your small group) use this resource, we'd love to know! Email Scott @ [email protected] Learn more about Highrock church at www.highrock.orgLearn more about Theology Lab highrock.org/theologylabPodcast includes original music ("Imagination") written by Dean Payla, produced by PALA.#Blacktheology #Blackhistory #theologydiscussion