The Way They Were

On this special episode, Chantal and guest Michelle Shaughnessy zoom in on the glossy excess of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and size up the franchise’s newest arrival, The Real Housewives of Rhode Island!Plus over on the Patreon we get into the Summer House drama, Jen Shah's post prison interview and Carole Radziwill's problematic relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell.To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello everyone! Gráinne has, somewhat inconveniently for us but thrillingly for her, disappeared into the bright lights and late nights of Saturday Night Live UK—which means The Way They Were is entering a brief period of organised chaos. For the next couple of weeks, we’ll be popping up in slightly odd places, like a situationship that won’t quite define itself. But we’re not leaving you stranded, we’re lining up some bonus episodes to keep things ticking over while Gráinne enjoys life as a superstar sketch writer. She will, of course, return to her true calling soon: deep, forensic dives into celebrity breakups, with all the relish of someone who’s been briefly allowed to forget them.However look out for some Gossip episodes, a special friendship break-up episode and a reality show deep dive with some familiar faces from our recent past! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Barry Keoghan and Sabrina Carpenter looked like one of those modern celebrity pairings that somehow made sense: the brooding Irish actor and the pop star with the sharpest tongue on the charts. Two pint-sized superstars with the world at their feet, until it was all over. This week on The Way They Were, we pick apart the short-and-sweet romance between the Saltburn star and the Espresso chanteuse, from whirlwind beginnings to a breakup that seemed to arrive before Sabrina had even finished writing the next album. This week, Chantal and Gráinne are joined by stand-up comic Bella Hull to sift through the drama.Also we have an update from Gráinne while Chantal explains why everybody wants to be invited to this year's Vanity Fair Oscars party.To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Love might not cost a thing, but this one came with a lot of receipts. When Jennifer Lopez (back once again!) fell for Sean Combs in 1999, it felt like pop had engineered its own super-couple. She was shimmering on the brink of full-blown world domination; he was the Svengali of west coast rap. Tracksuits, champagne, Versace dresses and so much white clothing.Then came the nightclub shooting, the arrest and the cheating. This week, Chantal and Gráinne are joined by stand-up comedian Esther Manito to unpick J.Lo's first tabloid romance and ask why couldn't these two lovebirds make it work?To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The original short king meets the ultimate revolutionary party girl and sparks one of history’s most chaotic love stories. Napoleon, the obsessive letter-writer who conquered Europe but couldn’t quite conquer matters of the heart falls hard for Josephine: glamorous, widowed, and a real good time girl. Comedian and actress Rosalie Minnitt joins Gráinne and Chantal to unpack the passion, politics and spectacularly messy breakup of history’s most dramatic power couple. Yes, tonight, Josephine!To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kanye West and Kim Kardashian were never just a couple they were a full-blown cultural event. From Paris Fashion Week to reality TV, Instagram meltdowns and frequent attempts to break the internet, their relationship blurred the line between love story, brand strategy and performance art. But how did two people from such different worlds become the defining celebrity power couple of the 2010s? This week on The Way They Were, Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate are joined by journalist and pop-culture encyclopaedia Tracie Egan Morrissey to unpack the rise and fall of Kimye. There’s a lot to get through because the lore runs deep, the details matter, and nothing about this relationship was ever simple.To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Beckham family feud feels less like a falling out and more like a prestige drama about what happens when you are born into a brand. This week on The Way They Were: Gossip Edition, Gráinne and Chantal dive into the Beckham family saga, from wedding dress dramas and strategic Instagram silences to the (girl) power of Victoria’s Spice Girls nostalgia and David’s all round awfulness, asking whether Brooklyn is really rebelling against his parents or just tired of the PR.Plus, over on Patreon, there’s more messy celebrity chat, including a deep dive into the Queer Eye fallout and our reaction to the Oscars snubs!To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Tiger Woods sold perfection: serene, disciplined, surgically controlled. Golf’s ultimate good boy, engineered from childhood to never miss a shot. Off the course? A very different game was being played. On The Way They Were, we revisit the scandal that destroyed Tiger Woods' spotless image. Drugs, over 100 different women and the fateful night when Elin Nordegren smashed up his SUV with a golf club. This week, Gráinne and Chantal are joined by stand-up comedian Stuart McPherson, we ask how did the most managed athlete on Earth end up such a mess behind closed doors? Turns out even Tiger couldn’t keep it on par.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s the first episode of the year and The Way They Were is back with a special GOSSIP edition.Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate get stuck into the delicious weirdness of celebrity mum friendships, as we look at the fallout of Ashley Tisdale’s toxic mom group revelations. Then, Chantal's faithful status is under fire as she reveals she doesn't 'get' the national treasure Claudia Winkleman or the new season of The Traitors. Tune in next week for our first new episode of the year! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on The Way They Were, we’re unlocking one of our most popular Patreon episodes of the year and sharing it on the free feed. We’re doing something a little different today. Chantal swaps her mic for a magnifying glass and Gráinne pulls her fedora low as they step away from the usual romantic nostalgia and into the glittering golden age of Hollywood. This time, our sleuthing duo turn their attention to the tragic, endlessly puzzling story of Natalie Wood and Robert Wagner: movie stars, tabloid royalty, and the centre of one of Tinseltown’s most haunting mysteries. If you enjoy this kind of deep-dive, pop culture, history, mystery, and two hosts gently sparring their way through it, there’s plenty more where this came from. Join us on Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! Happy New Year!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on The Way They Were, Gráinne and Chantal hang the tinsel, spike the mulled wine, and take a sleigh ride through Christmas past, present and future via Crimbo movies. From Judy Garland’s golden-age yearning, through Jimmy Stewart’s moral reckonings, to Cate Blanchett’s ice-cool elegance and Alicia Silverstone teaching us that even Netflix makes mistakes .Along the way, Chantal reveals herself to be a Guardian Angel sent directly from Heaven to revive our Christmas spirits, while Gráinne is a big-city lady who’s forgotten the true meaning of Christmas and must be gently but firmly guided back to her Irish roots.Merry Christmas. God bless us, every one.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on The Way They Were, we do the unthinkable: we go back to Love Actually. Gráinne and Chantal rank the couples from least offensive to “maybe we should call the police”, asking the big questions Richard Curtis never did. Who do we hate the most? Are half these characters quietly unhinged? What exactly is going on with Keira Knightley’s extremely youthful bride? And is the secretary secretly a feminist icon? (No.)Along the way we interrogate Christmas number ones, language barriers, workplace power dynamics, and why we will always, always cry during that Emma Thompson scene.The full episode is available now on our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Back in the early 2010s, few celebrity romances burned brighter (or faster) than Khloé Kardashian and Lamar Odom. She was the breakout star of reality TV’s royal family; he was the NBA hero. One month in, they were married. Soon after, their love life was a franchise. For a moment, it looked like reality TV had actually delivered a fairy tale but it was not meant to be.This week on The Way They Were, Kardashian super fan and brilliant stand-up Chelsea Birkby joins Gráinne and Chantal to relive the whirlwind: the TV spin-offs, the tabloid storms, the sex doll, the hookers, and so much more that even the Kardashians couldn't keep up with it.To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Effie Gray and John Ruskin looked like the perfect Victorian power couple: she, bright and brilliant; he, the era’s leading art critic. But behind the portraits was one of history’s strangest age-gap marriages. Unconsummated, uncomfortable, and the sort of story that would make Gen Z turn away in horror.This week on The Way They Were, Gráinne and Chantal team up with one of Britain’s best stand-ups, Ian Smith, to look at the grottiest couples we've ever looked at on the show.To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere⁠⁠ You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Now this is a right royal mess. Before it all went spectacularly wrong. Before Epstein, before the exile, before the Palace decided Prince Andrew should probably just be Andrew: there was “Randy Andy” and Fergie. The cheeky, chaotic couple who briefly made the monarchy look like a Jilly Cooper book. From their whirlwind courtship and tabloid scandals to the toe-sucking! This was a love story that had it all. In fact maybe it had a little too much! This week, comedian Michael Clarke (Crybabies, Everything Is News) joins Gráinne and Chantal to dive into the doomed romance of the Ex Duke and Duchess of York. ⚠️ Disclaimer: This episode was recorded prior to the recent revelations about Prince Andrew’s formal removal from the Royal Family and Sarah Ferguson’s overly pally prison letters to Jeffrey Epstein. To get episodes ad free and early, join us our Patreon: patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere You can also access our exclusive bonus episodes every other week and take part in The Gossip our exclusive Patreon group chat! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on The Way They Were, we’re catching up on all the heartbreak, hair dye, and high drama of the celebrity world. Lily Allen’s West End Girl has landed, a sharp, funny, furious record that lays her split from David Harbour bare. We talk through the fallout, the shock, and the pussy palace.Elsewhere, Ariana Grande’s got 'new' hair but no ponytail. What does it mean? Finally we’re checking in on a few of our favourite couples: JoJo Siwa and Chris Hughes (Gráinne’s not convinced they’ll make it) and Sutton Foster and Hugh Jackman (Chantal suspects there’s a touch of the 'David Harbour' about him).For extra episodes, ad free versions and early releases why not join our ⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠? You'll even get a shoutout on the show and a chance to chat with Gráinne and Chantel in our gossip room!To celebrate Lily Allen's new album we are giving away 20 month long memberships to out Patreon! Click here for more info - https://www.patreon.com/TheWayTheyWere/redeem/A3154⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWereLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on The Way They Were, we’re diving into the breakup that everyone’s talking about: Pop Princess Lily Allen and Stranger Things star David Harbour. It was the lockdown love story that looked like a rom-com London girl meets Hollywood nice-guy, until it all went a little bit strange. Now Lily has a new album out which is going to set the record straight about the hottest romance to come out of the global pandemic. Gráinne and Chantal are joined by the wonderful Rosemary Mac Cabe who shares her own insights on transatlantic love affairs, David's secret Raya account and we do a deep dive on their carpeted bathroom. For extra episodes, ad free versions and early releases why not join our ⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠? You'll even get a shoutout on the show and a chance to chat with Gráinne and Chantel in our gossip room. ⁠⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWereSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we step back in time to the 1940s to meet the literary it-couple: Truman Capote and Jack Dunphy. Truman was the sharp-tongued genius and Jack existed in his shadow. So how did the socialite and the introverted novelist make it work for so long?This week, Chantal and Gráinne are joined by the brilliant Jen Ives to unpack the devotion, destruction and divine madness of Capote and Dunphy’s decades together. Expect post-war passion, very posh best friends like Lee Radziwill and the Queen Mother, plus an emotional affair with a killer on death row.For extra episodes, ad free versions and early releases why not join our ⁠Patreon⁠? You'll even get a shoutout on the show and a chance to chat with Gráinne and Chantel in our gossip room. ⁠patreon.com/TheWayTheyWereSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.