The Unstuck Church Podcast with Amy Anderson

A personality might draw a weekend crowd, but it takes a team to create the healthy systems that foster sustained growth—that's the role of the Senior Leadership Team. Without it, you're depending on heroism at the top. If the SLT is structured well, you can take the lid off your church and create space for sustained health. If it's not, you'll keep funneling everything back to the top. In this episode, Sean and Amy talk about the Senior Leadership Team—the team of people who sit at the top of your org chart. They'll help you see: What the SLT should actually look like How the roles of each member are defined Why getting the SLT right is so important This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Studios: Unlock the power of story in your worship space. The creative, passionate team at PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, works with churches to create beautiful, engaging spaces that connect with your community. They're a team of architectural, design, and branding experts who transform worship spaces into attractive, engaging hubs for the community. Reach out to their team at plainjoestudios.com and dream up the bright future of your church. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Pastoral burnout is one of the most critical issues facing church leaders today. And it's not just about overwork or lack of boundaries: Your structure might be the very thing that's creating the conditions for burnout—for both you and your staff. We're seeing this pattern play out in churches everywhere. Lead pastors are drowning under impossible spans of care, unclear role definitions and organizational structures that create silos. Meanwhile, growth is creating momentum that feels exciting but leaves no time to build the systems that would actually sustain health. In this series, we're going beyond the symptoms to address the structural realities that either fuel burnout or create space for sustained health. This week Sean and Amy discuss the structure moves that lead to burnout and provide a set of structural questions to ask to help relieve it. This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Studios: Unlock the power of story in your worship space. The creative, passionate team at PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, works with churches to create beautiful, engaging spaces that connect with your community. They're a team of architectural, design, and branding experts who transform worship spaces into attractive, engaging hubs for the community. Reach out to their team at plainjoestudios.com and dream up the bright future of your church. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Ever wonder how your church's metrics, wins and challenges compare to other like-minded churches? This quarter's Unstuck Church Report shows what the "Big C Church" is looking like in 2026 so far. The data covers the biggest barriers churches are facing when it comes to growth, gives perspectives on finances, informs how well churches are helping people engage in their churches, and many other interesting, helpful learnings. Sean and Amy dive into all the data of the Q1 2026 Unstuck Church Report in this episode: Growth Is Happening… But It's Slowing Are People Actually Connecting or Just Attending? WHAT'S BLOCKING GROWTH: The #1 Barrier Will Surprise You Exclusive insights from The Church Lawyers This Episode is Sponsored by The Church Lawyers When ministry meets legal complexity, The Church Lawyers are in your corner. Exclusively dedicated to serving churches, ministries, and nonprofit organizations, the firm brings specialized legal expertise that general practice firms simply can't match. From church formation and governance to employment law, property matters, IRS compliance, crisis management, and more — our comprehensive counsel covers every dimension of ministry life. No legal concern is too big or too small. With affordable services and a membership program offering discounted legal rates, quality legal protection is accessible to ministries of every size. Visit TheChurchLawyers.com for free resources and everything you need to get started. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

You can start multisite for all the right reasons: healthy momentum, strong mission and a genuine desire to reach more people. But then a few years in, you find yourself looking around thinking, "Wait… is this actually producing what we hoped it would?" Alignment feels harder. Decision-making feels heavier. Outcomes aren't quite matching the vision you had in mind when you started. And that's where a lot of churches begin asking a really honest question: Did we choose a model that's leading us to different results than we were hoping for? In this episode, Sean and Amy shift from problems to solutions—they share multisite model best practices you can actually benchmark against as you're evaluating where your multisite church might feel stuck. This Episode is Sponsored by The Church Lawyers Every church needs trusted legal counsel, but finding attorneys who truly understand ministry can be challenging. The Church Lawyers specialize in church and nonprofit law, serving thousands of organizations nationwide. From by-laws and governance, to IRS compliance and employment matters, The Church Lawyers provide the expertise you need with sound legal advice giving you peace of mind. Discover practical free resources and affordable membership options at thechurchlawyers.com. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

No one goes into multisite thinking, "This model isn't going to work." Everyone starts for the right reasons: more people reached and more communities engaged. But over time, tensions begin to show up. But it's not just normal complexity; it's the kind that starts to impact clarity and limit effectiveness if you don't pay attention to it. Last week, Sean and Amy interviewed three leaders about their experience with multisite. All three pastors made the case that how you start multisite doesn't have to be your model forever. In this episode, Sean and Amy reflect on the takeaways from those stories and start pulling out some of the common challenges we see churches facing in multisite. This Episode is Sponsored by The Church Lawyers Every church needs trusted legal counsel, but finding attorneys who truly understand ministry can be challenging. The Church Lawyers specialize in church and nonprofit law, serving thousands of organizations nationwide. From by-laws and governance, to IRS compliance and employment matters, The Church Lawyers provide the expertise you need with sound legal advice giving you peace of mind. Discover practical free resources and affordable membership options at thechurchlawyers.com. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

"Are we doing multisite right?" The truth is that many churches launch multisite with great intentions but eventually find themselves stuck—operationally overwhelmed, financially strained or culturally fragmented across locations. In this series, we're pulling back the curtain on what it really takes to build a healthy, sustainable multisite strategy. We're starting with something a little different—we're letting some church leaders we've served tell their multisite stories in their own words. In this episode, you'll hear from three pastors who have had very different experiences with multisite: Nick Cleveland from Grace Church in Wooster, OH; Christy Gibas from The Table Church in Pittsburgh; and Mike Reinsel from Stonecreek Church in Georgia. This Episode is Sponsored by The Church Lawyers Every church needs trusted legal counsel, but finding attorneys who truly understand ministry can be challenging. The Church Lawyers specialize in church and nonprofit law, serving thousands of organizations nationwide. From by-laws and governance, to IRS compliance and employment matters, The Church Lawyers provide the expertise you need with sound legal advice giving you peace of mind. Discover practical free resources and affordable membership options at thechurchlawyers.com. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

We're trying something different on The Unstuck Church Podcast. It's our first ever "Ask Anything" episode! The idea for this came from our free webinars, where we typically save time at the end for live Q&A. Some of the best takeaways from those events often happen in that live conversation, and we wanted to bring that fun and magic to the podcast. In this episode, Sean and Amy respond to questions YOU, the listeners, submitted by leaving a voicemail on our Ask Anything phone line at (615) 398-9171 or by messaging us on social media or through our free live webinars. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center Planning Center is software designed to help churches help people. With multiple tools in one connected platform, you can stay organized, communicate with your team, and create meaningful ways to connect with your congregation. Start for free at planningcenter.com—pay only for what you need, and cancel anytime. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

​​Two common issues in churches tend to show up together, even though at first glance they don't feel related at all: first engagement steps and physical capacity. On the surface, they sound like two completely different problems. But, in reality, they're way more connected than most leaders realize. You can't grow sustainably if you're not engaging people well, and you can't engage people well if you don't have the space to serve them. These are two of the most common barriers we see; however, the good news is that these have proven solutions. We're wrapping up our series on Five Common Core Issues in Churches by talking about revitalizing your playbook for first engagement steps, getting ahead of your capacity limits and thinking strategically to support health and growth in these areas. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center Planning Center is software designed to help churches help people. With multiple tools in one connected platform, you can stay organized, communicate with your team, and create meaningful ways to connect with your congregation. Start for free at planningcenter.com—pay only for what you need, and cancel anytime. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Churches everywhere, no matter the size, are struggling with this: the lack of a deep leadership bench. One of the most common pain points we see in churches is not having enough leaders in the pipeline. This puts them in a constant reactive mode, often filling positions out of desperation rather than developing leaders intentionally. New leaders don't identify themselves; you won't drift into success here. You have to be intentional to take the time to work on your leadership bench. We'll show you how. In part two of our series, "Five Common Core Issues in Churches," Sean and Amy talk about the symptoms of a shallow leadership bench, how to build out a leadership development framework and what to start (and stop) doing if this issue sounds familiar to you. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center Planning Center is software designed to help churches help people. With multiple tools in one connected platform, you can stay organized, communicate with your team, and create meaningful ways to connect with your congregation. Start for free at planningcenter.com—pay only for what you need, and cancel anytime. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

After serving more than 750 churches, we've noticed a clear pattern: No matter the size, style, or model, many churches wrestle with a similar set of challenges. They show up in different ways, but the root issues are surprisingly common across the board. That's good news for pastors and ministry leaders—because if the challenges are common, the solutions can be too. You're not alone. And you're not the first church to navigate these obstacles. In this series, we're taking a closer look at five of the most common challenges that consistently show up in our work with churches, starting with the strategy issues. In this episode, Amy and Sean talk about strategies to reach your mission field and strategies for financial health. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center Planning Center is software designed to help churches help people. With multiple tools in one connected platform, you can stay organized, communicate with your team, and create meaningful ways to connect with your congregation. Start for free at planningcenter.com—pay only for what you need, and cancel anytime. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

For years, the narrative in Canada was slow decline, polite disengagement and post-Christian skepticism. But that's not the story they're living right now. There are people from every background actually exploring faith and showing up at church. What's going on in Canada? We're doing something a little different in this episode of the podcast. Sean and Amy invited our Canadian consultants, Jonathan Smith and Drake Farmer, to introduce themselves and talk about what they're seeing in the "big C" church in Canada. In this episode, we have a conversation about the real spiritual hunger emerging across Canada, how a strong invitational culture and posture of hospitality are becoming the new front door and what to be ready with when your growth is outpacing your resources. This Episode is Sponsored by Tyndale: As ministry leaders, you are walking with people through anxiety, grief, conflict, and big questions every week. The HelpFinder Bible is a simple, practical tool to help you point them to Scripture. Its unique HelpFinder Index includes more than 100 life topics—so whether someone is struggling with stress, relationships, or doubt, you can turn straight to relevant verses that speak to their situation. Find God's answers to life's questions—check out HelpFinderBible.com. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

So far in this series, we've talked about how to clarify vision and how to build strong strategies. But even when leaders feel really good about those pieces, there's still a sticking point: getting the whole team aligned and moving together. This is where you might hit a wall. There's a gap between defining your vision and actually making it happen. So it's time to move. In the final episode of our series "How to Not Waste January," Amy and Sean talk about typical signs that show a church is lacking alignment and the three critical steps you can take to realign with your vision. This Episode is Sponsored by Tyndale: What if your Bible could do more than just be read? Experience the innovative, awe-inspiring Filament Bible app! When you pair your Filament-enabled Bible with the FREE Filament app, you'll unlock thousands of study notes, hundreds of videos, interactive maps, devotionals, audio Bibles, and more—all designed to deepen your understanding of and enrich your time in God's Word. Discover more ways to interact with God's Word. Learn more at FilamentBibles.com. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

In January, you have permission to slow down enough to be intentional about the rest of your year. The goal isn't perfection; it's progress. And progress starts with planning. In the next part of our series, "How to Not Waste January," we're moving from reflection to talking about what's next. It's time to refocus by creating plans and establishing rhythms for the new year. In this episode, Amy and Sean talk about how to plan when things are going well at your church, the key questions to ask when planning and how to calendar tangible planning rhythms. This episode is sponsored by PlainJoe Studios. Is your church building a throwback to the wood-paneled world of the 1980s? Does it feel more like going to worship or taking a big step back in time? PlainJoe's fun-loving, passionate team of designers, architects and specialists will transform your dated space, imagining and creating a worship environment that communicates your church's unique story and appeals to people of all ages. Learn more at plainjoe.net. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

January can feel like a throwaway month. If you didn't get strategic planning scheduled early, it can feel like a few weeks of just drifting. Despite all the "New Year, New You" energy our culture puts out, hibernating is often more appealing. But you're leading a church, and you still have a live event every week. You might be leading your church through a season of fasting and prayer or getting small groups up and running again. It's not exactly a slow month. If leveraged well, January can result in a fruitful year. But if you let it slip by, you'll be stuck playing catch-up month after month. So we put our heads together: What practices, initiatives and conversations do we WISH every church leader would set aside time for in January? In the first episode of our new series, "How to Not Waste January," Sean and Amy talk about the importance of taking time to reflect and practical ways to do so. This episode is sponsored by PlainJoe Studios. Is your church building a throwback to the wood-paneled world of the 1980s? Does it feel more like going to worship or taking a big step back in time? PlainJoe's fun-loving, passionate team of designers, architects and specialists will transform your dated space, imagining and creating a worship environment that communicates your church's unique story and appeals to people of all ages. Learn more at plainjoe.net. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

What's really going on with Gen Z? Gen Z is the most engaged generation right now: Research shows that they are going to church more than anyone else. However, their questions, their expectations and how they explore belief are unlike any other generation, leaving church leaders feeling puzzled. What's resonating with Gen Z? What's falling flat? How should church leaders respond with wisdom, humility and hope? In this episode, Amy interviews Chris Allen, Executive Pastor of CenterPoint Church in Orem, Utah, about the misconceptions of reaching Gen Z, how CenterPoint is approaching Gen Z's interest in church and some best practices for connecting with Gen Z. This episode is sponsored by Donorbox: Still relying on cash and checks for offerings? Half of churchgoers already prefer to give electronically. Donorbox Live Kiosk helps churches like yours boost giving by 35%. Imagine thousands more dollars each month to fortify your ministry. All you need is a tablet, card reader and Donorbox's app. Donorbox lets congregants make tithes, offerings and donations instantly with cards or digital wallets, like Apple Pay and Google Pay. Get two months free at donorbox.org/unstuckpodcast. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Our culture is experiencing a massive shift fueled by one piece of technology: artificial intelligence. Yep, we're going there. How might AI impact ministry? How are churches adapting to (or resisting) the AI movement? What does AI even have to do with church? In this episode, Amy and Sean are joined by Paul Alexander, Executive Pastor at Sun Valley Community Church in Arizona and a member of the Unstuck team, and Mika Casey, Executive Director of IT at Sun Valley. They discuss key questions and changes surrounding AI, how to use AI tools in your ministry (and what guardrails to put in place) and what's at stake for the church in the era of AI. This episode is sponsored by Donorbox: Still relying on cash and checks for offerings? Half of churchgoers already prefer to give electronically. Donorbox Live Kiosk helps churches like yours boost giving by 35%. Imagine thousands more dollars each month to fortify your ministry. All you need is a tablet, card reader and Donorbox's app. Donorbox lets congregants make tithes, offerings and donations instantly with cards or digital wallets, like Apple Pay and Google Pay. Get two months free at donorbox.org/unstuckpodcast. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Burnout is something we hear about constantly when we're working with churches. This topic is incredibly timely and personal for a lot of pastors. Burnout is not just about being tired or having a busy season—it's much deeper than that. It affects leaders physically, emotionally and spiritually, and it impacts their team and church in ways they might not even realize. In this episode, Sean and Amy are joined by Jimmy McLoud, the Lead Pastor of First Christian Church in Canton, Ohio and a ministry consultant on the Unstuck team, to talk about how burnout affects church staff members. This episode is sponsored by Donorbox: Still relying on cash and checks for offerings? Half of churchgoers already prefer to give electronically. Donorbox Live Kiosk helps churches like yours boost giving by 35%. Imagine thousands more dollars each month to fortify your ministry. All you need is a tablet, card reader and Donorbox's app. Donorbox lets congregants make tithes, offerings and donations instantly with cards or digital wallets, like Apple Pay and Google Pay. Get two months free at donorbox.org/unstuckpodcast. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

December is the busiest season in the church world. Between Christmas services, end-of-year wrap-up and planning for 2026, you probably don't have the time or mental bandwidth to digest a content-heavy podcast series. So this month, we're doing something fun. We're focusing on some "hot topics"—things every church leader is talking about and thinking about right now. What better way to kick off this series than by talking about Christmas? In this episode, Amy and Sean have a real, honest conversation about what's on pastors' minds as Christmas approaches. This episode is sponsored by Donorbox: Still relying on cash and checks for offerings? Half of churchgoers already prefer to give electronically. Donorbox Live Kiosk helps churches like yours boost giving by 35%. Imagine thousands more dollars each month to fortify your ministry. All you need is a tablet, card reader and Donorbox's app. Donorbox lets congregants make tithes, offerings and donations instantly with cards or digital wallets, like Apple Pay and Google Pay. Get two months free at donorbox.org/unstuckpodcast. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

The success of a new campus hinges on one critical hire: the campus pastor. In this episode, Amy Anderson and Sean Bublitz break down the five essential traits every campus pastor needs to thrive— especially in churches that use video teaching. Whether you're launching your first campus or refining your multisite strategy, this conversation will help you identify the right leader who can carry your church's DNA, rally people and build sustainable ministry through volunteers. This Episode is Sponsored By Portable Church: For over 30 years, Portable Church Industries has equipped thousands of churches with custom portable solutions that make launching, expanding, and thriving in rented spaces efficient and sustainable. We believe the smartest way to launch strong is to Go Portable First. From complete portable systems to expert coaching, we help churches save money, stay flexible, and focus on what matters most, reaching their communities. Whether you're a church planter or a church launching a new location, PCI is your trusted partner in creating church anywhere. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Growth always brings complexity, and multisite is no exception. As churches grow, it's easy to slip into reactive mode. But with intentional planning, multisite can create a sustainable path forward and ultimately reach more people with the hope of Jesus. We're wrapping up our series on "Growing Church Problems" with a conversation about multisite. In this episode, Sean and Amy talk about the different challenges that monosite churches and multisite churches face, how to approach multisite strategically and the specific strategies that continue to allow room for growth. This Episode is Sponsored By DonorBox: This Christmas season could be your biggest fundraising opportunity: church attendance often doubles and generosity surges. Donorbox Live Kiosk ensures you won't miss a single gift. No cash? No problem. Your congregants can tap, swipe, or use their phone to donate instantly. Automatically capture contact information, send tax receipts, and even set up recurring gifts. Join 100,000 organizations raising billions with Donorbox. Try Live Kiosk free at donorbox.org/unstuckpodcast Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Systems are one of those things we can be reluctant to change. Most churches outgrow their systems without even realizing it. What worked then suddenly doesn't work now. And churches get stuck using old systems that are beyond their usefulness, all while hoping for different results. When you're in seasons of growth, you have to get more intentional about scaling up the systems that have started to break down due to growth to make your ministry sustainable. In this episode, Amy and Sean discuss why systems function poorly for so long, what to do when you recognize key systems are broken and how to redesign systems during growth. This Episode is Sponsored By DonorBox: This Christmas season could be your biggest fundraising opportunity: church attendance often doubles and generosity surges. Donorbox Live Kiosk ensures you won't miss a single gift. No cash? No problem. Your congregants can tap, swipe, or use their phone to donate instantly. Automatically capture contact information, send tax receipts, and even set up recurring gifts. Join 100,000 organizations raising billions with Donorbox. Try Live Kiosk free at donorbox.org/unstuckpodcast Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

As churches grow, one of their biggest challenges is finding the right people to add to their team. On paper, it may look like they have enough staff, but they often find themselves with a shortage of strategic leaders on their team. We're continuing our series on "Growing Church Problems" with an important topic that impacts every expanding ministry: structure and finding the right staff. In this episode, Amy and Sean talk about the structural pain points of growing churches, the tensions around staffing and practical next steps to take to address these challenges. Plus, Amy got to sit down with Jonathan Smith, lead pastor of OneChurch.to in Toronto and one of the newest members of our consulting team. Drawing from years of experience, he shares some best practices for hiring and promoting from within the congregation. This Episode is Sponsored By DonorBox: This Christmas season could be your biggest fundraising opportunity: church attendance often doubles and generosity surges. Donorbox Live Kiosk ensures you won't miss a single gift. No cash? No problem. Your congregants can tap, swipe, or use their phone to donate instantly. Automatically capture contact information, send tax receipts, and even set up recurring gifts. Join 100,000 organizations raising billions with Donorbox. Try Live Kiosk free at donorbox.org/unstuckpodcast Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Church growth is exciting…until it creates problems you've never had to solve before. This is the tension of leadership: growth always brings complexity. And yet, when you're prepared, growth doesn't have to lead to burnout or stuckness. With the right decisions about space, staff, systems and strategy, you can create a sustainable path forward. We're kicking off a new series called "Growing Church Problems." We're unpacking the real, practical challenges leaders are facing, starting with: How do you make wise decisions about service times and facilities before you're boxed in? In this episode, Sean and Amy discuss the common signs you're starting to outgrow your current space, how to evaluate new service times and practical next steps to take when you're ready to make changes to your space and service times. This Episode is Sponsored By DonorBox: This Christmas season could be your biggest fundraising opportunity: church attendance often doubles and generosity surges. Donorbox Live Kiosk ensures you won't miss a single gift. No cash? No problem. Your congregants can tap, swipe, or use their phone to donate instantly. Automatically capture contact information, send tax receipts, and even set up recurring gifts. Join 100,000 organizations raising billions with Donorbox. Try Live Kiosk free at donorbox.org/unstuckpodcast Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Gen Z's interest in church is rising. Most churches want to reach the next generation, but they often lack the practical tools and strategies to make it happen. Russ Ewell from Bay Area Christian Church is helping young men and women step into leadership and faith, and he has a valuable perspective to share. In this bonus episode, Amy had the chance to connect with Russ about Gen Z's interest in church, what's actually working to reach and develop Gen Z leaders, and how his church is engaging them to become future leaders and managers in ministry. This Episode is Sponsored By ChurchCopy.AI There's no shortage of things happening in your church—kids, students, groups, outreaches, special events, the list goes on. Keeping communication clear across it all can be exhausting. With ChurchCopy.ai, you can turn a simple event description into a complete communication package—emails, posts, texts, and more—working together to create awareness, build anticipation, drive engagement, and provide follow-up. All organized in one place, all in your church's voice. Start free today at churchcopy.ai/unstuck. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Many of us in ministry are responsible for leading other people. It's hard to lead others well without good management skills. Management is something that, just like any other specialty, needs to be trained and developed. But, historically, churches have not been good developers of managers. Effective manager training is crucial to building a culture of health and high performance on a church staff. Without great managers, we won't accomplish great things. In this episode, Amy and Sean discuss common mistakes churches can make when training managers, specific disciplines church leaders should implement in manager training and how to create sustainable systems for ongoing manager development. This Episode is Sponsored By ChurchCopy.AI There's no shortage of things happening in your church—kids, students, groups, outreaches, special events, the list goes on. Keeping communication clear across it all can be exhausting. With ChurchCopy.ai, you can turn a simple event description into a complete communication package—emails, posts, texts, and more—working together to create awareness, build anticipation, drive engagement, and provide follow-up. All organized in one place, all in your church's voice. Start free today at churchcopy.ai/unstuck. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

When it comes to numbers and metrics, churches sometimes say things like, "Our culture has never talked about numbers; we're not a business," and "Numbers are too impersonal." This topic seems to create anxiety in church staff members. But what if numbers actually weren't the enemy? What if you could use metrics and value people simultaneously? What if you could listen to the Holy Spirit and use data to support your vision and mission? Good managers bring clarity to what the wins are for their team and for their team members. And metrics are tools for clarity. In this episode, Amy and Sean discuss why there is pushback on using numbers and metrics, how to have a healthy approach to using measurement in ministry contexts and practical tips for introducing healthy practices to your team. This Episode is Sponsored By ChurchCopy.AI There's no shortage of things happening in your church—kids, students, groups, outreaches, special events, the list goes on. Keeping communication clear across it all can be exhausting. With ChurchCopy.ai, you can turn a simple event description into a complete communication package—emails, posts, texts, and more—working together to create awareness, build anticipation, drive engagement, and provide follow-up. All organized in one place, all in your church's voice. Start free today at churchcopy.ai/unstuck. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Being a part of the Body of Christ means we each have different roles. If we're going to be a healthy body, we need to talk to one another, communicate with one another, watch one another's back and grow in our abilities to play the role He has placed us in. We ALL need honest feedback on what we are doing well and how we can get better. Teams that do this well are healthier and probably accomplish more, too. And that's what we want: healthy and high-performing teams, accomplishing the mission God has given us. In this episode, Amy and Sean explore how creating a culture where feedback flows freely strengthens relationships, develops people and increases the effectiveness of our ministries. This Episode is Sponsored By ChurchCopy.AI There's no shortage of things happening in your church—kids, students, groups, outreaches, special events, the list goes on. Keeping communication clear across it all can be exhausting. With ChurchCopy.ai, you can turn a simple event description into a complete communication package—emails, posts, texts, and more—working together to create awareness, build anticipation, drive engagement, and provide follow-up. All organized in one place, all in your church's voice. Start free today at churchcopy.ai/unstuck. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

People-oriented people are often the ones who end up in ministry. And as people-oriented people, we'll do anything to protect our relationships with our staff (or, rather, we'll avoid anything that would disrupt them). And yet, we are called to lead each person God has placed in our care. And part of leadership is management. We're starting a new series called "Management Is Not a Dirty Word," where we'll share practical tools every ministry needs to have in its tool belt to lead healthy, effective and winning teams. In this episode on leadership and management, Amy had the opportunity to sit down with Lance Witt, longtime friend of The Unstuck Group, founder of Replenish ministries and author of the book High-Impact Teams: Where Healthy Meets High Performance. This Episode is Sponsored By ChurchCopy.AI There's no shortage of things happening in your church—kids, students, groups, outreaches, special events, the list goes on. Keeping communication clear across it all can be exhausting. With ChurchCopy.ai, you can turn a simple event description into a complete communication package—emails, posts, texts, and more—working together to create awareness, build anticipation, drive engagement, and provide follow-up. All organized in one place, all in your church's voice. Start free today at churchcopy.ai/unstuck. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

"Where did all our momentum go?" We hear this question often from the multisite churches we serve. It is so common for a multisite church to get stuck at three locations. Having three locations is amazing and exciting, but if you are continuing to grow, it can suddenly feel very frustrating if your multisite model becomes the barrier to making room for new people. In this episode, Sean and Amy break down a growth barrier that isn't discussed often: the "MultiStuck" barrier. They talk about the common tensions multisite churches feel when they get stuck at two or three campuses and start to lose momentum, and they provide solutions to break through the barrier to move toward sustained health. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center: Are you struggling to keep your church organized and connected? Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software that solves your administrative challenges. You can effortlessly track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules, and create easy ways for your congregation to get involved—all from a single platform. Whether you need a check-in system, event signups, or an online giving solution, Planning Center helps you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Crossing the 2000 barrier isn't just about adding more seats on Sunday. This barrier represents a significant shift in how a church needs to operate. At this size, it's common to see ministry silos develop and a realization that your leadership structure needs to evolve. As the leaders of the church, you have to make some changes to your mindset and to how you lead. In this episode, Amy and Sean dig into what makes the 2000 barrier so challenging and why so many leaders feel the weight of it. They focus on helping you own your role by unpacking the mindset shifts that senior pastors, executive pastors and boards must make to lead effectively at this stage. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center: Are you struggling to keep your church organized and connected? Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software that solves your administrative challenges. You can effortlessly track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules, and create easy ways for your congregation to get involved—all from a single platform. Whether you need a check-in system, event signups, or an online giving solution, Planning Center helps you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

"I've never led a church this size before..." If you are a senior pastor, executive pastor or board member, you're not alone in thinking this. We hear church leaders say it all the time, as they wonder how they're going to break through the next growth barrier. We're continuing our series on breaking common growth barriers, specifically helping church leaders in key seats to own their roles in getting the church over that next hurdle. In this episode, Amy and Sean talk about one of the hardest barriers to break through: the 1000 barrier. If you feel stuck around the 700 or 800 attendance mark and are ready for healthy, sustained growth, this episode is for you. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center: Are you struggling to keep your church organized and connected? Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software that solves your administrative challenges. You can effortlessly track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules, and create easy ways for your congregation to get involved—all from a single platform. Whether you need a check-in system, event signups, or an online giving solution, Planning Center helps you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

You know the story: the numbers rise then stall. Two steps forward, one step back. Maybe your church has a history of hovering around a number—a familiar attendance line you just can't seem to cross. Or maybe a rapid growth season occurs, but eventually, something—people, systems, culture—plateaus the momentum and drifts you right back to where you started. Sound familiar? In this new series, we tackle the real reasons churches stall out and what it takes to lead past them. We'll help you push past the barrier you're facing now, and the one after that, by equipping the senior leaders of your church (lead pastor, executive pastor and board members) to own their unique roles. In this episode, the focus is on the 200 and 500 attendance barriers. Amy and Sean are joined by Chad Hunt, who has been on our consulting team since 2015 and has helped hundreds of churches navigate these barriers, to discuss how each senior leader can be equipped to break through. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center: Are you struggling to keep your church organized and connected? Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software that solves your administrative challenges. You can effortlessly track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules, and create easy ways for your congregation to get involved—all from a single platform. Whether you need a check-in system, event signups, or an online giving solution, Planning Center helps you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

The newest edition of The Unstuck Church Report is here! Over the past few years, our Unstuck Church Reports have told a pretty encouraging story. On average, churches are seeing double-digit growth. In fact, if you look back at the last 13 quarters, attendance growth has landed somewhere between 13% and 30%. Incredible! But let's be honest: not every church is experiencing that kind of momentum. Some are still stuck or even losing ground. In this episode, Sean and Amy explore what sets healthy, growing churches apart by breaking down each section of the report: reach, connection, staffing & structure, and finances. This Episode is Sponsored by MortarStone MortarStone equips churches with actionable giving insights that drive real ministry impact. Generosity is more than numbers—it's discipleship, spiritual formation, and lasting Kingdom work. MortarStone combines powerful analytics, custom dashboards and real-time reporting to help you understand and grow your church's giving. Confidently build budgets, forecast with accuracy and make informed decisions with tools designed for ministry. Plus, you'll partner with a dedicated coach to create a tailored, data-informed strategy that supports your unique mission and goals. Learn more and get started at mortarstone.com. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

As followers of Jesus, we're called to reach people outside of the faith. But doing so requires a strategy—both in the church and in your personal life. We're wrapping up our series on communication challenges for churches with a conversation about communicating with outsiders—people outside the church and outside the faith. In this episode, Sean and Amy share some reality checks about outreach strategies. Plus, Amy catches up with Phil Taylor at PlainJoe about best practices in storytelling and branding through the lens of what connects with people outside the church. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center Do the visitors at your church know exactly where to go and what to do when they visit for the first time? If you're struggling to keep your church organized and connected, you need to check out Planning Center. Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software to help you solve your church's administrative challenges. You can easily do things like track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules and create ways for your congregation to get involved—all using a single platform. If you need a check-in system, event signups or an online giving solution, Planning Center can help you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

We're getting into that busy back-to-school and ministry ramp-up season. If you have communication issues as a ministry, they will start showing up big time this time of year. When it comes to church communication, most leaders just try to reach everyone. But the truth is, you actually have two distinct audiences: insiders and outsiders. This week, we're talking about your communication with your insiders—your congregation. In this episode, Amy caught up with Blue Van Dyke at Studio C. They talked about the need for churches to get better at communicating with insiders (especially at large churches where it can go so wrong) and shared practical ways it can get better. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center Do the visitors at your church know exactly where to go and what to do when they visit for the first time? If you're struggling to keep your church organized and connected, you need to check out Planning Center. Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software to help you solve your church's administrative challenges. You can easily do things like track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules and create ways for your congregation to get involved—all using a single platform. If you need a check-in system, event signups or an online giving solution, Planning Center can help you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

When you think August, you think busy. For most churches, the ministry season ramps up as people return to church after the summer. It's back-to-school for families, and people are getting overloaded by communication—from the schools, teachers, doctors, teams and YOU. In this series, we're tackling three areas where we believe churches could take it up a notch and be the best-in-class organization when it comes to how you communicate with both insiders and outsiders. We're kicking off this series by talking about internal communication. If staff/team communication is a mess, it's nearly impossible to become excellent at communicating with the congregation, volunteers or people in the community. In this episode, Amy and Sean share areas where churches could improve communication with their staff. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center Do the visitors at your church know exactly where to go and what to do when they visit for the first time? If you're struggling to keep your church organized and connected, you need to check out Planning Center. Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software to help you solve your church's administrative challenges. You can easily do things like track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules and create ways for your congregation to get involved—all using a single platform. If you need a check-in system, event signups or an online giving solution, Planning Center can help you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

This summer, we're changing things up. You're on vacation; we're on vacation. We all know how this goes. You probably have road trips, plane trips, maybe a sabbatical or some conferences to attend this month. But ministry and leadership are still happening! So this month, we are replaying the "hits" from the last six months: the best episodes. We'll be back with fresh content next week, and we know you'll be gearing up for back-to-school busyness. See you on the other side! We hope you enjoy these favorites from the first half of the year. In this episode from our "Reach & Retain Strategies" series, Noah Herrin, lead pastor of Way Church in Nashville, shares insights from the remarkable journey of growing a church plant that primarily reaches Gen Z and Millennials. Noah shares how Way Church is addressing the crisis of meaning and purpose among younger generations through intentional community building and helping people discover their unique contributions to the church's mission. This Episode is Sponsored By: PlainJoe Do the visitors at your church know exactly where to go and what to do when they visit for the first time? If you don't already have clear, beautifully designed wayfinding graphics and signage in your building, now is the time. The creative and talented team at PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, are experts at creating placemaking signs and wayfinding markers that will tell your church's unique story and point your people in the right direction – from the moment they arrive at your campus. Learn more at plainjoestudios.com Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

This summer, we're changing things up. You're on vacation; we're on vacation. We all know how this goes. You probably have road trips, plane trips, maybe a sabbatical or some conferences to attend this month. But ministry and leadership are still happening! So this month, we are replaying the "hits" from the last six months: the best episodes. We'll be back with fresh content in August, and we know you'll be gearing up for back-to-school busyness. See you on the other side! We hope you enjoy these favorites from the first half of the year. In this episode, Amy and Sean explore a common staffing oxymoron that all too many churches face: teams that are simultaneously understaffed and overstaffed. They unpack why churches often end up with misaligned staffing, what this tension feels like for different ministry areas and practical next steps for evaluating and addressing staffing imbalances. This Episode is Sponsored By: PlainJoe Do the visitors at your church know exactly where to go and what to do when they visit for the first time? If you don't already have clear, beautifully designed wayfinding graphics and signage in your building, now is the time. The creative and talented team at PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, are experts at creating placemaking signs and wayfinding markers that will tell your church's unique story and point your people in the right direction – from the moment they arrive at your campus. Learn more at plainjoestudios.com Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

This summer, we're changing things up. You're on vacation; we're on vacation. We all know how this goes. You probably have road trips, plane trips, maybe a sabbatical or some conferences to attend this month. But ministry and leadership are still happening! So this month, we are replaying the "hits" from the last six months: the best episodes. We'll be back with fresh content in August, and we know you'll be gearing up for back-to-school busyness. See you on the other side! We hope you enjoy these favorites from the first half of the year. In this episode, Sean and Amy dive into how churches can leverage their weekend services as effective "front doors" for connecting with new people. They share insights on creating a clear guest services presence, developing intentional follow-up processes and ensuring weekend experiences connect with both churched and unchurched people. This Episode is Sponsored By: PlainJoe Do the visitors at your church know exactly where to go and what to do when they visit for the first time? If you don't already have clear, beautifully designed wayfinding graphics and signage in your building, now is the time. The creative and talented team at PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, are experts at creating placemaking signs and wayfinding markers that will tell your church's unique story and point your people in the right direction – from the moment they arrive at your campus. Learn more at plainjoestudios.com Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

This summer, we're changing things up. You're on vacation; we're on vacation. We all know how this goes. You probably have road trips, plane trips, maybe a sabbatical or some conferences to attend this month. But ministry and leadership are still happening! So this month, we are replaying the "hits" from the last six months: the best episodes. We'll be back with fresh content in August, and we know you'll be gearing up for back-to-school busyness. See you on the other side! We hope you enjoy these favorites from the first half of the year. In this episode, Sean and Amy talk about predictable people problems to be prepared for, how to get out in front of those problems, wearing both your leadership hat and your pastoral hat and resources to get people engaged. This Episode is Sponsored By: PlainJoe Do the visitors at your church know exactly where to go and what to do when they visit for the first time? If you don't already have clear, beautifully designed wayfinding graphics and signage in your building, now is the time. The creative and talented team at PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, are experts at creating placemaking signs and wayfinding markers that will tell your church's unique story and point your people in the right direction – from the moment they arrive at your campus. Learn more at plainjoestudios.com Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

This summer we're changing things up. You're on vacation; we're on vacation. We all know how this goes. You probably have road trips, plane trips, maybe a sabbatical or some conferences to attend this month. But ministry and leadership are still happening! So this month, we are replaying the "hits" from the last six months: the best episodes. We'll be back with fresh content in August, and we know you'll be gearing up for back-to-school busyness. See you on the other side! We hope you enjoy these favorites from the first half of the year. In this episode, Sean and Amy unpack how one church used their data to drive strategic changes. You'll hear a compelling conversation with Doug Dameron from Orchard Church in Brighton, CO, about crafting effective next steps for new attendees. This Episode is Sponsored By: PlainJoe Do the visitors at your church know exactly where to go and what to do when they visit for the first time? If you don't already have clear, beautifully designed wayfinding graphics and signage in your building, now is the time. The creative and talented team at PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, are experts at creating placemaking signs and wayfinding markers that will tell your church's unique story and point your people in the right direction – from the moment they arrive at your campus. Learn more at plainjoestudios.com Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

When a church slips into the maintenance phase, pastors often wrestle with all kinds of fears—worrying about rocking the boat, messing up, dealing with conflict or just burning out. But what if those very fears are the thing standing between your church and its next season of growth and impact? In the final episode of our "Just Maintaining" series, Sean and Amy dive into one of the most simple, yet critical, steps in reversing early signs of church decline: shifting your mindset. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center: Are you struggling to keep your church organized and connected? Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software that solves your administrative challenges. You can effortlessly track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules, and create easy ways for your congregation to get involved—all from a single platform. Whether you need a check-in system, event signups, or an online giving solution, Planning Center helps you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

It's easy to focus on what the church needs to change when growth slows—programs, strategies, systems. But often, the real breakthrough starts with the leader. A particularly challenging part of leading through the maintenance phase? Adjusting your leadership approach. In Part 3 of our "Just Maintaining" series, Sean and Amy discuss what churches need to be thinking about when it comes to their leadership team, key responsibilities senior pastors can't delegate (and what they should delegate) and specific adjustments to make to move forward again. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center: Are you struggling to keep your church organized and connected? Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software that solves your administrative challenges. You can effortlessly track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules, and create easy ways for your congregation to get involved—all from a single platform. Whether you need a check-in system, event signups, or an online giving solution, Planning Center helps you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Your church isn't declining … but it's not growing either. You might be stuck in "maintenance mode." Many aspects of ministry look healthy, but growth has slowed. You're not really reaching new guests, and fewer people are crossing the line of faith. What now? In Part 2 of our "Just Maintaining" series, Sean and Amy talk about what you actually need to do to change course. They'll cover what it means to have a maintenance mindset, how to focus back on reaching new people and practical applications on how to break through the next growth barrier. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center: Are you struggling to keep your church organized and connected? Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software that solves your administrative challenges. You can effortlessly track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules, and create easy ways for your congregation to get involved—all from a single platform. Whether you need a check-in system, event signups, or an online giving solution, Planning Center helps you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.

Has your church's growth slowed down or hit a plateau? Maybe you're financially stable, and everything seems fine on the surface, but something feels off from your perspective as the leader. There are telltale signs your church is drifting away from sustained health. In this candid series, we'll explore why churches unconsciously slip into "maintenance mode," what it costs them and, most importantly, how to break free. In Part 1 of our "Just Maintaining" series, Amy and Sean discuss the warning signs of shifting into maintenance mode, the key metrics to pay attention to and the first steps to take toward getting unstuck. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center: Are you struggling to keep your church organized and connected? Planning Center is the all-in-one church management software that solves your administrative challenges. You can effortlessly track first-time guests, manage volunteer schedules, and create easy ways for your congregation to get involved—all from a single platform. Whether you need a check-in system, event signups, or an online giving solution, Planning Center helps you nurture your community and keep people connected. Visit planningcenter.com to get started for free. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram.