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The Two Of Us

The Two Of Us

Naomi Woddis

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Show overview

The Two Of Us has been publishing since 2019, and across the 5 years since has built a catalogue of 126 episodes, alongside 1 trailer or bonus episode. That works out to roughly 100 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence, with the show now in its 97th season.

Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 30 min and 59 min — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. The publisher flags most episodes as explicit, so expect adult themes or strong language throughout. It is catalogued as a EN-language Arts show.

The catalogue appears to be on hiatus or wound down — the most recent episode landed 1.7 years ago, with no new episodes in over a year. The busiest year was 2020, with 62 episodes published. Published by Naomi Woddis.

Episodes
126
Running
2019–2024 · 5y
Median length
56 min
Cadence
Fortnightly

From the publisher

Intimate and compelling interviews about creativity and mental health hosted by photographer Naomi Woddis and poet Alba Frederick. Originally aired on Reel Rebels Radio.

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Ep 127127. Amber Jarman-Crainey - Unexpected reactions served to us by grief

We are back with a special episode with choreographer, movement director and storyteller Amber Jarman-Crainey, who is producing a very special show, BOUND. The show follows 9 stories of loss, told through movement, music, and memories. We spoke to her about her early life, grief and the work that went into producing the show. Amber is setting out to use her latest work as a springboard to create a charity 'B O U N D' that will focus on bringing awareness and providing alternative forms of grief therapy. Amber on instagram Book tickets for BOUND here Show hosts - Naomi Woddis and Alba Frederick Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Aug 19, 202449 min

Ep 126126. Jasmine Cooray - Loss and Grief and Love

Jasmine reads from her new poetry collection 'Inheritance' published by Bad Betty Press. We had a deep and inspiring conversation about the role writing and reading played in her life as a child and teenager. She talks about her work as a psychotherapist and why she sees the sessions she has with her clients as a freeform improvised poem. Jasmine reads some beautiful poems from her book, and talks about her current daily poetry practice and how it relates to play. Bio: Jasmine Cooray is a poet, psychotherapist and facilitator. After spending her 20s oversharing on London's poetry circuit, she had the opportunity to deliver creative writing projects for The Barbican, The Southbank Centre, First Story, the National Literacy Trust and Arvon. She has also been a WOW Festival speaker, BBC Performing Arts Fellow, and Writer-in-Residence at the National University of Singapore. Her debut poetry collection 'Inheritance' was published with Bad Betty Press in November 2023 and received a Poetry Book Society Recommendation. You can find Jasmine on instagram Inheritance can be bought from: Bad Betty Press Poetry Book Society Waterstones Show host - Naomi Woddis Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Jan 4, 202454 min

Ep 125125. Destiny Adeyemi - The Vulnerability and Joy of Artistry

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Destiny shares their poetry, their experience of being a model, a poet, and their non-binary identity. We share mental health toolkits and more. Find Destiny on Instagram. Show host - Alba Frederick Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Oct 16, 202256 min

Ep 124124. Finding my Voice - Ronali Collings

Novelist Ronali Collings talks about her new book 'Love and Other Dramas'. We talk about the inspiration for the novel - development of character, the value and enjoyment to be gleaned from commercial fiction. Ronali talks about the changes in her life that led to her becoming a published writer and discussed why as a women of colour it is so important to tell multiple stories rather than stick to one perceived and narrow narrative. We also chatted about building confidence and the ability to take constructive constriction to better our work. Ronali on Twitter Ronali on Instagram CW: Fertility treatment Show host - Naomi Woddis Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Sep 8, 202259 min

Ep 123123. Elijah Kellman - Putting Trust in the Silence

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Naomi has an in-depth conversation with Elijah Kellman who has a background in health psychology and is currently working in social prescribing. There's so much to enjoy and learn in this interview including the different experiences of health provision (especially mental health provision), patient and health practitioner interaction, and the acknowledgement of invisible power. Elijah talks about death, grief and the possibility of reframing difficult experiences. He shares his wisdom about the heightened emotional state providing illumination, and the value of interruption. Elijah on instagram. Show host - Naomi Woddis Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Aug 4, 202259 min

Ep 122122. Gosia Miernik - The Value of Lived Experience

Psychotherapist, artist and lifelong learner Gosia Miernik talks about the value of lived experience. In this fascinating discussion we talk about family constellations and what can be learnt from inherited family patterns. She shares her journey to becoming a psychotherapist and how art-making can be a process of revelation. Gosia on instagram Show host - Naomi Woddis Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Jul 15, 20221h 0m

Ep 121121. Heidi Spring - Making magic & Celebrating life

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Painter, maker and business owner Heidi Spring talks about how she makes her intricate paintings, creates magic through installing decor for events, the joy and mindfulness in making, as well as how she motivates herself in the trickier moments. Heidi Spring's Instagram and website. UpCycle Deco on Instagram and website. Show host - Alba Frederick Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Jul 4, 202257 min

Ep 120120. Annie Brechin - You Can Be Loved

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In a fascinating conversation poet and bell-ringer Annie Brechin and Naomi talk about prayer, fidelity, bell-ringing, the church and her management of long term depression. In this unflinching and honest interview Annie opens up about her childhood experience of mental health. She reads from her new book 'The Mouth of Eulalie' and talks about exploring eco-poetics. You can buy Annie's book here. Find Annie on twitter and instagram. Show host - Naomi Woddis Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Jun 8, 202258 min

S1 Ep 119119. Josh Hutton - Finding Peace in a Frantic World

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Audio engineer and electronic music producer Josh Hutton AKA 'Patient Zero' talks openly about the recent loss of a mutual friend, loneliness, mindfulness, finding therapy, moving through unhealthy habits and making electronic music. Find Josh's EP Bandcamp. Josh on Instagram Show host - Alba Frederick Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Jun 2, 202258 min

Ep 118118. Zara Carpenter - The Courage to be Myself

In a fascinating interview artist, curator and workshop facilitator Zara Carpenter talks about using colour for emotional healing, courage and protection. Zara has fibromyalgia and talks about living with the unpredictability of a chronic pain condition, the frustration and anger that goes with it and how making work has helped hugely in managing this pain. Zara's website Zara on instagram @zaracarpenter Show host - Naomi Woddis Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

May 5, 20221h 0m

Ep 117117. Lola Jagun - The Joy of Variety

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Viral comedian, content creator, writer and actor Lola Jagun talks about her journey into being a full-time creative. We talk about the joy and challenges of her work and how she got an agent. We discuss 'the slap', the importance of being kind, and her part in Drunk history: Black stories. Find Lola on Twitter and Instagram Show host - Alba Frederick Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Apr 29, 202258 min

Ep 116116. Natalia Millman - Grief, Creativity and Collaboration

Artist and ambassador for Arts 4 Dementia, Natalia Millman, talks about her ongoing project 'Grief Letter', becoming a mother and the impact this has had on her creativity and gaining confidence as an artist. We talked in detail about dementia and anticipatory grief. Natalia also shares about her process - a must listen for any artist and why she is excited about collaborating with other artists. Natalia on Instagram Natalia's website CW: Dementia, death of a parent Show host - Naomi Woddis Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Apr 6, 202255 min

Ep 115115. Jessica Mitchell - Creative Intimacy

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Artist and psychotherapist Jessica Mitchell talks about bodily and psychological transformation with age and discovering her artistic self. We discuss her collaboration with photographer Diogo Duarte - the book 'Sour-Puss: The Opera', what it means to 'come out' in multiple ways and how chaos shows up and informs the artistic process. To buy this wonderful book please message Jessica or Diogo on instagram. Jessica on instagram Diogo on instagram Show host - Naomi Woddis Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Mar 16, 202258 min

Ep 114114. Catherine Frederick - Creativity is a part of me

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Creative soul Catherine Frederick talks to niece Alba about the many threads of creativity in her life. They discuss her love of storytelling, living a life with many layers of creative interests, grief and creativity, and the influence of family on creativity. The chat begins with a short guided meditation. You can watch her theatre performance 'Til our dying day' here. Show host - Alba Frederick Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Mar 5, 20221h 2m

Ep 113113. Zena Edwards - The Queen of Swords and Social Justice

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Poet, activist, musician, educator and tarot reader Zena Edwards discusses advocacy, activism, climate change and creativity. The interview is led by a shared tarot reading. Zena explores the symbolism of the Queen of Swords and what this means in terms of social justice. Zena pulls cards from the Tower of the Abyss Tarot and Naomi from Modern Witch Tarot. Twitter and Instagram Show host - Naomi Woddis Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Feb 9, 202258 min

Ep 112112. Daniel Sluman - Taking the Time Needed

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An extensive and far reaching chat with poet and TS Elliot prize nominee Daniel Sluman. Daniel talks about disability identity, love and vulnerability, and his love of watching Mixed Martial Arts. He reads a beautiful extract from his book Single Window. twitter.com/danielsluman CW: Cancer, antidepressant withdrawal Show host - Naomi Woddis Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg CW: Cancer, antidepressant withdrawal.

Feb 2, 202259 min

Ep 111111. Laura Greenway - Communicating mental illness through art

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In this episode, multidisciplinary artist Laura Greenway speaks openly about her multiple mental health diagnoses, her process of art-making, and how her art and experiences of mental health challenges go hand-in-hand. She also describes her journey into working in monochrome and how her performance art began. CW: Medical trauma as a result of incorrect diagnosis as a child. We discuss her first performance piece which you can view here. Laura on Instagram. Coming up to Christmas 2021, we'd like to share Sarah Millican's resource which you can get involved with on Twitter, the #JoinIn campaign Show host - Alba Frederick Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio Music - Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Dec 21, 202159 min

Ep 110110. Karen McCarthy Woolf - Subtle Geometries

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Poet Karen McCarthy Woolf is the author of An Aviary of Small Birds and Seasonal Disturbances. In a meaningful interview Karen reflects on the death of her baby son Otto. We discuss transcendence, devotion and her lifelong love of music and dancing. She reads her poem 'Argument' and we talk about making an impact and the permission to rage. Karen on Instagram Website CW: Child loss, Grief Show host - Naomi Woddis Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Dec 8, 202159 min

Ep 109109. Antonia Attwood - Vulnerability is a super power

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Visual artist, Artistic Director at Free Space Project, and lecturer Antonia Attwood talks about growing up with a mother with Bipolar Disorder and how their emotionally open relationship has given her the permission to be open and vulnerable with her emotions and mental health. She talks about how making art has supported her mental health and allowed her to explore it, including her upcoming work 'Broken, Not Broken'. Find Antonia on Instagram here CW: Bipolar Disorder, Mental Illness Show host - Alba Frederick Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Nov 24, 202159 min

Ep 108108. Alicia Campbell - Decolonising the Artistic Process

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A fascinating interview and essential listen. Artist and creative director Alicia Campbell talks about her dynamic new project 'Queen of Pain' decolonising the artistic process, her experience of living in chronic pain and the importance of authoring one's one narrative. Queen of Pain online Alicia on instagram CW: Chronic pain, suicidal ideation Show host - Naomi Woddis Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio Music : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg

Nov 3, 202159 min
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