The Turning - Seasons 1, 2 & 3

We're sharing an episode of a new podcast from CBC, called The Devil You Know. In The Devil You Know, Sarah Marshall explores the tangled web of the Satanic Panic, a journey that will take you everywhere from Victoria, B.C. to rural Kentucky to San Antonio, Texas. This is a show about the people who experienced the Satanic Panic in real-time—the believers, the skeptics, the bystanders, the wrongfully-convicted. What was it like to be a psychologist told to look for Satanists in every case; a mother slowly recovering memories of supposed Satanic abuse; a teenager accused of conspiracy to murder? The stories of these eyewitnesses point us toward the real underlying problems—individual and societal—that the Panic was a response to. The fault, as ever, was not with Satanists, but in ourselves. You can find The Devil You Know at https://link.mgln.ai/SrbDHF See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Christa was born into River Road Fellowship. In our final conversation, she remembers how she first realized she was in a cult, and tells us parts of the story we haven’t covered yet. For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A year and a half after our first interview, we sit down with Lindsay one last time to ask her the questions you’ve been wondering about. For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART TEN - “There were moments when I remember being in such a dark place, feeling so hopeless, and the curiosity of the next day I think helped keep me going. It doesn't matter how dark the day is. Just be curious about tomorrow.” For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART NINE - "The trees would be swaying, and you could almost feel the leaves moving. Maybe we would start humming, making up a melody. The worries and the fear just melted away. All the bad things, and all the good things, none of it mattered. I could sit back and relax and breathe. It was this moment of just feeling – safe and almost – loved by her. just a true sister and friend, not feeling judged or afraid. It felt like we were the only two people in the world in that moment." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode discusses suicide.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART EIGHT - “It was absolutely the one thing – the one thing, if I can pick one thing – it is the one thing that allowed me to begin to heal.” For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a discussion of child sexual abuse.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART SEVEN - “When I think of it now, it was almost like he prophesied his own demise. For all those years, Victor was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a discussion of child sexual abuse and self-harm.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART SIX - “It was like I was kept underground for so long and then just spit out at 23. I call it when I entered the real world. And it was a whole other world than what it had been.” For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a discussion of child sexual abuse and self-harm.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART FIVE - "I was totally in. Totally committed. Ready to take a bullet for him if needed." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a discussion of the dynamics of child sexual abuse.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART FOUR - “He would say, 'Lindsay is the old flesh, and you need to become a new man in Christ. Lindsay has to die.'” For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a discussion of fatphobia, extreme dieting and disordered eating behaviors.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART THREE - “They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.” For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a description of child sexual abuse.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART TWO - “He was more important than their husbands. He was more important than their children. He was more important than anything.” For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch. Content note: This episode includes a description of child sexual abuse. Please listen with discretion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART ONE - "I never thought it would develop into what it was." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When the most vulnerable within a community go unprotected, how can they find the strength to push their way out?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today we present the second of two episodes featuring Karen Valby, author of The Swans of Harlem: Five Black Ballerinas, Fifty Years of Sisterhood, and Their Reclamation of a Groundbreaking History. The book records the largely forgotten stories of five Black ballerinas who changed the art form. Their stories are surprising and vivid and poignant… and totally worth your time if you enjoyed our most recent season of The Turning. In our second episode of the series, Karen Valby speaks with former ballerina and founding member of the Dance Theater of Harlem, Sheila Rohan. You can buy The Swans of Harlem here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/716415/the-swans-of-harlem-by-karen-valby/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As we work on Season 3 of The Turning, we have something special for you: two episodes featuring Karen Valby, author of The Swans of Harlem: Five Black Ballerinas, Fifty Years of Sisterhood, and Their Reclamation of a Groundbreaking History. The book records the largely forgotten stories of five Black ballerinas who changed the art form. Their stories are surprising and vivid and poignant… and totally worth your time if you enjoyed our most recent season of The Turning. On the first episode, Karen Valby talks with former prima ballerina Lydia Abarca. You can buy The Swans of Harlem here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/716415/the-swans-of-harlem-by-karen-valby/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A grab-bag of stories and extras. For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The countdown to curtain begins. For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch TRANSCRIPT - https://www.rococopunch.com/turningtranscriptsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART TEN - "If it is going to stick with us forever, it matters that we get it right." For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch TRANSCRIPT - https://www.rococopunch.com/turningtranscripts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PART NINE - "I remember thinking, am I the only one like me who's ever walked these halls?" For more content, follow us on Instagram @RococoPunch TRANSCRIPT - https://www.rococopunch.com/turningtranscripts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.