Episode 815: The Heavenly Realm (Hebrews 9:22-28)

Peter Leithart, James Bejon, Alastair Roberts, and Jeff Meyers discuss Hebrews 9:22-28. Timestamps: 0:00 – Platonic terms: Why Hebrews draws on the language of Philo and others. Distinction between heavenly and earthly realms, similar to Plato’s “intelligible” and “sensible” realms.The realm of ideas/forms accessed by intellect vs. the sensible world below as a copy of the higher realm. 4:00 – Plato’s Cave. 7:20 – What Platonic terms doesn’t Hebrews use? How should we think about the relationship between various forms of Platonism and Hebrews? Is there overlap, and if so, how much? 10:00 – Does the heavenly realm need purification? Jesus destroys the Platonic divide between material and immaterial. 12:30 – Are Platonic terms used only for rhetorical or conceptual leverage? 15:30 – Jesus enters heaven as one who shared our flesh and blood. Human ascent, not intellectual ascent. 17:45 – Does stressing Platonic parallels offer any exegetical payoff? 20:30 – Today’s text: Why does heaven need cleansing? 28:50 – Blood taken into the holy place: “strange” or “alien” blood. 35:00 – The purpose of Leviticus and how Jesus fulfills it. 36:20 – Hebrews 9:26. 38:00 – Jesus reaches the end of human history. 40:40 – A puzzling analogy: the “second appearance” of Christ in v. 28. Is there a preterist answer? _____ Check out the Audio Deacon Podcast www.audio-deacon.com/ GIVE TO THEOPOLIS! theopolisinstitute.com/give/ Get the Theopolis App! app.theopolisinstitute.com/menu Use Code "theopolitan" to get your first month free! Sign up for In Medias Res mailchi.mp/0b01d726f2fe/inmediasres