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Who's your guru?
Season 3 · Episode 6

Who's your guru?

The Ten Thousand Things

December 22, 202348m 22s

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Show Notes

Who's Your Guru? (and is Slavoj Žižek any good?)

Sam, Joe and Ali discuss gurus, including the online type:

  • our times are thick with public intellectuals, influencers, and self-proclaimed experts 
  • Sam's frequent references to Slavoj Žižek, and Joe's conclusion that he doesn't make much sense, and isn't much chop intellectually. 
  • Sam on literal guru worship in the Hare Krishnas - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Society_for_Krishna_Consciousness
  • should we just speak for ourselves, rather than filter our thoughts or present them in relation to influential figures?
  • figures like Jordan Peterson, Douglas Murray 
  • the resort to online gurus during times of uncertainty, about how to know and think (the so-called epistemological crisis)
  • A few of Joe's past figures get a mention: Stephen Pinker, Michael Shellenberger,
  • how problematic it can be when these gurus leave their area of expertise
  • many people will detect that guru lane drift, but many others still trust their Guru's every word, which is perhaps the whole point of gurus
  • the power of dialogue with other humans in understanding our own internally competing perspectives, and helping us evaluate information and perception
  • striving for clarity amidst an overload of information.

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Creators & Guests

  • (00:00) - Introduction and Hosts
  • (00:28) - Topic inro: Online Gurus
  • (00:41) - Slavoj Žižek
  • (02:52) - Growing up with guru worship in the Hare Krishnas
  • (04:22) - The Dangers of Guru Worship
  • (05:57) - The Influence of Public Intellectuals
  • (11:31) - The Impact of Social Media on Gurus
  • (15:33) - The Crisis of Trust in Modern Media
  • (28:13) - Capitalism and Media Coverage
  • (28:34) - The Search for a Reliable Source
  • (29:01) - Disappointment in Trusted Institutions
  • (29:53) - The Role of Institutions and Individual Sources
  • (32:08) - The Struggle with Information Overload
  • (32:48) - The Burden of Individual Choice
  • (34:42) - The Quest for Understanding and Trust
  • (36:09) - The Fear of Uncertainty and the Search for a Guru
  • (38:15) - The Dangers of Single-Source Reliance
  • (40:16) - The Role of Dialogue in Understanding
  • (44:19) - The Challenge of Finding Clarity in Chaos
00:00 Introduction and Hosts
00:28 Topic inro: Online Gurus
00:41 Slavoj Žižek
02:52 Growing up with guru worship in the Hare Krishnas
04:22 The Dangers of Guru Worship
05:57 The Influence of Public Intellectuals
11:31 The Impact of Social Media on Gurus
15:33 The Crisis of Trust in Modern Media
28:13 Capitalism and Media Coverage
28:34 The Search for a Reliable Source
29:01 Disappointment in Trusted Institutions
29:53 The Role of Institutions and Individual Sources
32:08 The Struggle with Information Overload
32:48 The Burden of Individual Choice
34:42 The Quest for Understanding and Trust
36:09 The Fear of Uncertainty and the Search for a Guru
38:15 The Dangers of Single-Source Reliance
40:16 The Role of Dialogue in Understanding
44:19 The Challenge of Finding Clarity in Chaos