
422: ‘A Monkey on a Rock’, With Stephen Hackett
The Talk Show With John Gruber · Daring Fireball / John Gruber
May 26, 20252h 14m
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Show Notes
Stephen Hackett, proprietor of 512 Pixels and co-founder of Relay (purveyor of many fine podcasts), joins the show. Topics include: IO (or if you will, io), the new joint venture of OpenAI and Jony Ive’s LoveFrom; the sheer fantasy of “Made in America” iPhones; and Fortnite’s return to the US App Store.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.
Links:
- Apple in China, Patrick’s spectacular new book.
- Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart.
- Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London.
- Millions, Billions, Zillions, Brian Kernighan’s fun little book on practical day-to-day math.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.