The Stacking Benjamins Show

Most of us were never taught this stuff. So, where do you actually start? Thirty-nine states now require a personal finance course to graduate from high school. That's real progress — and it still might not be enough. Because financial education isn't a one-time event. It's a living curriculum that has to grow with you, stay connected to your actual life, and — crucially — help you get out of your own way when things get emotionally charged. This week, Joe and the crew build that curriculum from the ground up. Whether you're 22 or 52, there's a starting point here for you. Rubin Miller — Financial advisor, founder of Peltoma Capital, and author of the Fortunes and Frictions blog. Came from the investment world before financial planning, which means he sees the whole game differently and isn't afraid to say so on LinkedIn. Paula Pant — Afford Anything host, behavioral finance truth-teller, and the person who goes on record this week with a very confident guess about the trivia answer. OG — The basement's own financial planner, father of a teenager who wants to day trade, and enthusiastic opponent of giving the government any money he doesn't absolutely have to. On building the foundation: Why the first step in any financial plan is an honest accounting of where everything actually stands: income, spending, assets, debt, all of it What's coming up in the next three to five years and why that question matters more than any abstract retirement calculation Why teaching a 17-year-old about mortgages probably doesn't stick and what actually does The one thing traditional savings accounts do really well (hint: it's great for banks, not for you) Why your behavior matters more than your math and what to do about it On protecting what you're building: The insurance mistake most people make: spending too much protecting low-probability events and too little protecting high-probability ones Why disability insurance is more expensive than life insurance and what that price difference is actually telling you When improving your credit score should not be your priority (this one surprises people) Why debt is never really "good," just occasionally less bad On growing your money: What an investment philosophy actually is and why you need one before you pick a single fund The behavioral biases — recency bias, loss aversion, the availability heuristic — that make smart people do dumb things with their portfolios Why nobody ever thinks they're panicking. They just think the circumstances changed. Why taxes are a year-round event, not a February problem The financial media teaches you to chase. New strategy, hot sector, better fund. But the research keeps landing in the same place: most investors' biggest obstacle isn't information. It's themselves. The curriculum that actually helps isn't the one that covers the most ground. It's the one that connects to your real life, your real timeline, and the emotional triggers that quietly blow up even the best-laid plans. Start there. Everything else builds on top. Rubin joins the crew for the first time and immediately plays trivia on Jesse Cramer's behalf — which feels both generous and karmic, given that Jesse and his wife Kelly just welcomed a new baby into the world (on Jesse's birthday, no less). Doug brings the Eddie Murphy birthday trivia energy. Paula goes on record with a very confident guess. OG applies his usual ironclad logic to arrive at his number. Someone wins. Someone absolutely should not have said what they said out loud before the answer was revealed. MENTIONED / RESOURCES Rubin Miller's blog: fortunesandfrictions.com Peltoma Capital: palomacapital.com Rubin on LinkedIn: search Rubin Miller Paula Pant: Afford Anything podcast, wherever you listen OG's calendar: stackingbenjamins.com/OG Wall Street Journal piece on personal finance requirements by state New to the basement? Subscribe so you never miss an episode — and if this one made you want to finally build your own financial curriculum, that's the whole point. FULL SHOW NOTES: https://stackingbenjamins.com/looking-at-your-money-report-card-1824 Deeper dives with curated links, topics, and discussions are in our newsletter, The 201, available at https://www.StackingBenjamins.com/201 Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bola Sokunbi didn't start with advantages. She started with a $54,000 salary she never negotiated, a rollover IRA mistake that cost her 40% of her savings, a tenant who stopped paying rent for eight months, and a first year of business that generated exactly $200. She's also built one of the most influential personal finance brands in the country and helped millions of people on the path to becoming millionaires. The gap between those two things isn't luck. It's four pillars -- and she walks through all of them today. What You'll Walk Away With The four wealth-building pillars that work in any combination -- and why you only need one to start Why negotiating your salary isn't about being aggressive -- and the simple strategy Bola used to close a gap between $54,000 and the $70,000+ her peers were already making for the same work The rollover IRA mistake that cost Bola nearly 40% of her retirement savings in a single tax year -- and exactly how to avoid it Why the investing pillar isn't just a 401k -- and the specific questions to ask yourself to know if you're actually maximizing it The honest truth about real estate as a wealth-building vehicle -- including what Bola learned from eight months of unpaid rent and a judge who heard everything How to get into real estate investing without ever becoming a landlord The entrepreneurship timeline nobody posts on social media -- and the financial runway strategy that lets you build a business without blowing up your household finances Why the four pillars aren't meant to be pursued one at a time -- and how stacking them together is where the real wealth acceleration happens The one mindset shift that separates people who build wealth from people who keep waiting for the right moment Why starting late is a story we tell ourselves -- and what the math actually says about investors who begin in their 40s or 50s Why This Matters Now If you're in your 40s and you've been doing the right things -- contributing to the 401k, avoiding bad debt, building some savings -- but still feel like the millionaire milestone is someone else's story, this episode is the reframe you didn't know you needed. Wealth at this stage isn't about finding a better investment. It's about understanding which pillars you already have, which ones you're leaving on the table, and how to combine them in a way that fits your actual life. From the Basement Bola Sokunbi joins Joe and OG to walk through the four pillars of her new book, Clever Girl Millionaire -- and yes, the guys are allowed in today. Doug arrives with April Fools trivia involving the Tower of London and a very old prank about lion-washing that somehow still worked on Londoners in 1856. Joe and OG also spend the headline segment making what is either a very compelling case for strategic debt -- or the most elaborate April Fools bit in Stacking Benjamins history. The basement scoreboard had nothing to do with any of it. Resources Mentioned Clever Girl Millionaire by Bola Sokunbi -- available wherever books are sold Clever Girl Finance -- free courses, worksheets, and resources at clevergirlfinance.com Clever Girl Finance on YouTube and Instagram -- @CleverGirlFinance Grind by (coffee shop founder) -- referenced by Joe during the entrepreneurship discussion Stacking Benjamins Scorecard -- assess your financial strategy at stackingbenjamins.com/scorecard Stacking Benjamins Meetups -- find a local group at stackingbenjamins.com/bad Live Show -- Stacking Benjamins and Afford Anything joint live recording, April 7th at Texas A&M Texarkana; details at stackingbenjamins.com/meetup FULL SHOW NOTES: https://stackingbenjamins.com/clever-girl-how-to-become-a-millionaire-1823 Deeper dives with curated links, topics, and discussions are in our newsletter, The 201, available at https://www.stackingbenjamins.com/201 Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices