The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin, S.J.

James Martin, S.J., is joined by James K.A. Smith on the “The Spiritual Life” podcast. Jamie is a leading scholar of St. Augustine, and a professor of philosophy at Calvin University. He’s written several books—including Desiring the Kingdom, You Are What You Love, On the Road with Saint Augustine, and his latest, Make Your Home in This Luminous Dark: Mysticism, Art, and the Path of Unknowing. Together, they chart the contours of St. Augustine’s life, spirituality, and theological patrimony in the Church, along with Jamie’s own spiritual life. Timecodes: 0:00 Adopting a refugee spirituality 1:40 Introducing James K.A. Smith and Augustinian spirituality 6:39 Jamie meets God through his wife’s family 11:00 How St. Augustine became a spiritual lifeline for Jamie 13:30 A thumbnail sketch of St. Augustine’s life 19:10 “Everybody’s got a hungry heart” 30:40 Praying with the German mystic Meister Eckhart 33:46 Tracking your desires in the spiritual life 36:10 The relationship between Pope Leo XIV, the Augustianians, and Augustine45:15 Audience Question: How can we reconcile the "two churches" of today: a church that follows Jesus and a more "worldy church"? Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Editor-in-chief of Orbis Books, Robert Ellsberg cut his teeth as an editor of The Catholic Worker newspaper when he was just 20 years old. There he also traded literary notes with the great Catholic writer, activist and now “Servant of God,” Dorothy Day. On this episode of “The Spiritual Life,” Robert joins host James Martin, S.J., to share what he learned from Dorothy and his time at the Catholic Worker about ordinary holiness. Timecodes: 0:00 Spiritual improv at the Catholic Worker 1:15 Introducing Robert Ellsberg, Orbis editor-in-chief 3:15 A primer on Servant of God, Dorothy Day 7:00 How Robert Ellsberg fell into the Catholic Worker at only 20 y.o. 13:50 Robert’s spiritual crisis and eventual conversion to Catholicism 15:50 Life at the Catholic Worker and getting to know Dorothy Day 22:40 “Don’t call me a saint” and Dorothy’s own expression of holiness 32:46 Letting go of the need to have the last word 35:33 Encountering God in nature 37:12 Audience Question: What saints can assist my prayer when I feel desolation around the church? Read Fr. Jim's ⁠article on Dorothy Day Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

American culture often tries to emphasize “learning lessons” in the middle of suffering. For example, “Everything happens for a reason.” But Kate Bowler doesn’t think those “lessons” are coming from God; rather, God draws close to the brokenhearted and accompanies them. On this episode of “The Spiritual Life” podcast host James Martin, S.J. is joined by scholar of American religion history, Kate Bowler, who is also the creator of the popular podcast “Everything Happens” and the author of bestselling books including Everything Happens for a Reason (and Other Lies I’ve Loved) and No Cure for Being Human. Her latest book is Joyful, Anyway! Timecodes: 0:00 God’s grace is not like math 1:05 Who is Kate Bowler? 5:22 How getting diagnosed with stage 4 cancer changed Kate’s faith 11:55 What not to say to someone who is suffering 19:38 How to accompany those who suffer 26:37 The problem with happiness and “good vibes only” 31:32 The paradox and practice of joy 44:10 Kate’s spiritual practices of honesty and service 47:35 Why its so hard to suffer in America 50:00 Audience Question: How do we believe in a just and loving God in the midst of an unjust and unloving world? 56:30 Kate’s blessing Read Fr. Jim's article on suffering Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cristóbal Fones, SJ, is many things- a talented musician, a Jesuit and the international director of the Pope’s Worldwide Prayer Network. He joins host James Martin, S.J., on “The Spiritual Life” podcast to share how he learned to pray from a place of deep emotional connection and authenticity, and how, from his new post at the Vatican, he coordinates the prayer petitions for the Catholic church. Timecodes: 0:00 Why we pray with Cristóbal Fones 1:00 Understanding the morning offering and the Sacred Heart 7:10 The pope has a prayer network 16:08 Praying with the Sacred Heart includes our emotions 23:50 Cristóbal is called to be a Jesuit and inculturate Christ’s message in music 37:00 Music can affect how you relate to God 46:32 What Jesuits do on retreat 51:00 Audience Question: Why do Catholics pray to saints and how does that work? Read Fr. Jim's article on The Sacred Heart Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Long before he wrote “Wicked” Gregory Maguire has been weaving careful attention into his artistic pursuits and his prayer. He joins host James Martin, S.J. on “The Spiritual Life” podcast to talk about his spiritual journey, from a Catholic orphanage and formative education with religious sisters who helped him draw his first picture of God, to his current practice of seeing Jesus’ face on the margins. Timecodes 0:00 Introducing Gregory Maguire, author of “Wicked” 5:04 The tragic circumstances surrounding Gregory’s birth 11:42 Gregory’s first image of God 17: 45 Discerning the shape of his own ministry 25:42 The art of paying attention + studying people’s faces 35:55 Are there Christ-figures in “Wicked”? 40:40 The experience of being gay and marginalized 42:50 Audience Question: What advice would you give to a young, gay, Catholic striving to live authentically? Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New York Times bestselling writer, Kathleen Norris, joins host James Martin, S.J., on “The Spiritual Life” podcast to share her experience with Benedictine monks, which formed the basis of her beloved book "The Cloister Walk," and to introduce her new book, "Rebecca Sue," a memoir about her younger sister who had a developmental disability. Kathleen retrieves spiritual wisdom from the ancient desert fathers and mothers on dealing with perennial psychological challenges, including jealousy, boredom, and bad thoughts. Timecodes: 0:00 Bad thoughts, not sin, was the focus in Early Christianity 1:10 The “Kathleen Norris-effect” 4:37 Getting to know the desert fathers and mothers 9:10 Kathleen Norris gets acquainted with monastic life 17:58 Hospitality is at the core of Benedictine spirituality 26:30 Rebecca Sue- Kathleen’s sister with a mental disability 30:57 Dealing with jealousy 33:15 Finding God in the desert 37:15 How the desert fathers and mothers dealt with sin 39:35 Acedia-restlessness, sadness, boredom 45:20 Audience Question: How important should it be that the parish we attend feel like a spiritual home? Read Fr. Jim’s review of Kathleen's book, "Rebecca Sue": https://www.americamagazine.org/books/2026/02/12/review-kathleen-norris-on-a-sisters-love/ Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fr. Bryan Massingale is a Black, openly gay priest, but not, in his own words, “a hybrid car,” that can be segmented into identity categories. Instead, he’s compound reality, a mystery made by God’s grace. Bryan joins host James Martin, S.J., on “The Spiritual Life” podcast to talk about the values of authenticity and integrity in his life and ministry. Timecodes: 0:00 Bringing God’s love forth 2:38 Why Bryan’s race and sexuality are significant 5:36 Challenges of being a Black and gay Catholic priest 11:35 How Bryan came out as gay 17:40 Authenticity frees us and others 25:55 Bryan’s advice to someone struggling with the church 29:38 The church’s tragic track record on racism 34:53 Why Bryan remains in the church despite racism 39:34 The spiritual practice of journaling & music 44:45 Audience Question: What can parents of L.G.B.T.Q. children do when their kids refuse to come to Mass? Read Fr. James Martin's article reflecting on this conversation Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Become a subscriber today at ⁠Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How can Scripture help deepen our prayer lives this Lent? The New Testament scholar Ben Witherington III joins host James Martin, S.J., to share his own paths of prayer- through scripture, music and poetry. Timecodes: 0:00 Who is Ben Witherington III? 3:40 What do scholars mean by the ‘historical Jesus’? 6:33 The last 7 words of Christ 7:57 Biblical roots of prayer, fasting, and almsgiving 11:10 Ben reclaims his faith and is called by God 17:30 Praying with the Bible and grief 33:20 Where to start reading the Bible 34:55 Christianity is a historical religion 40:55 Why Catholics should read the Bible 44:58 Audience Question: How do I hear the readings at Mass with freshness? Read Fr. Jim’s spiritual advice article on this episode Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Host James Martin, S.J., welcomes New York Times best-selling author and Christian convert, Anne Lamott, onto “The Spiritual Life” podcast. 0:00 Who is Anne Lamott? 5:00 Welcome Anne Lamott 6:50 Synonyms for God 12:08 Anne’s leap of faith 22:38 How to find God when you’re struggling 29:22 What would Jesus do? 32:33 Anne’s daily spiritual practices 39:40 Praying “Help, Thanks, Wow” 42:00 Anne’s secret to good writing 45:15 Audience Question: How do you handle distractions during prayer? Read Fr. Jim’s spiritual advice article on this episode: https://www.americamagazine.org/podcasts/2026/02/09/anne-lamott-james-martin-podcast-spiritual-life/ Check out Anne's book "Help Thanks Wow" Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at ⁠Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Host James Martin, S.J., welcomes the Franciscan spiritual master and author, Richard Rohr O.F.M., onto “The Spiritual Life” podcast. They dig deep into: - The meaning of “The Universal Christ,” or the Christ of faith, who transcends time, place, and culture, and allows us to find God in all things. - Moving from a moral framework of sin and judgment to brokenness and healing - Richard’s contemplative practice of “holy gazing” Read Fr. Jim's spiritual advice article on this episode: https://www.americamagazine.org/podcasts/2026/02/02/interview-richard-rohr-and-the-universal-christ Listen to Fr. Richard’s podcast, "Everything Belongs," here: https://cac.org/everythingbelongs2025 Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sister Norma Pimentel, M.J., the executive director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley, joins “The Spiritual Life” podcast to talk with host Fr. James Martin, S.J., about her four decades of ministry with migrants and refugees on the U.S.-Mexico border, in South Texas. Together, they discuss: - Sister Norma’s call to religious life, what prayer practices have sustained her over the years and the big boost she received from Pope Francis. - Misconceptions about migrants and refugees and how best to address them. - The power of personal encounter in changing minds and hearts, along with Sister Norma’s commitment to being present to those she ministers to. Read Fr. Jim’s spiritual advice article on this episode: Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sometime in his midlife, after becoming a priest and then a bishop, Cardinal Ladislav Nemet experienced a difficult period of burn-out. It took a community of family, friends and comrades in ministry to restore his spirits and sense of purpose, and now he has practical advice to share with anyone dealing with this kind of professional exhaustion. Cardinal Ladislav Nemet is the Archbishop of Belgrade, Serbia, and a member of the Society of the Divine Word. He was created a cardinal by Pope Francis in 2023, served as a delegate for the Synod of Bishops from 2021 to 2024, and was part of the conclave that elected Pope Leo XIV. Together with “The Spiritual Life” podcast host, James Martin, S.J., they discuss: How growing up in a communist country made Cardinal Nemet’s family “Catholics at home” but quiet in the public sphere The importance of humor and joy in the spiritual life Recovering from burnout and turning to the psalms during a dark period Cardinal Nemet’s participation in the conclave that elected Pope Leo XIV Read Fr. Jim’s spiritual reflection about this episode: https://www.americamagazine.org/podcasts/2026/01/20/james-martin-cardinal-nemet-burnout Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Host James Martin, S.J., welcomes famed anti-death penalty advocate, Sister Helen Prejean, onto “The Spiritual Life” podcast. Their conversation spans: How Sister Helen first became a chaplain to a death-row inmate, Pat Sonnier, and then a leading advocate to abolish the death penalty Catholic teaching on the inviolable dignity of the human person and the true meaning of forgiveness Discerning what to say “yes” and “no” to in the spiritual life, with the help of Ignatian spirituality Sr. Helen’s spiritual practice of quiet listening, reading, meditation and prayer. Read Fr. James' spiritual advice column about this episode Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Check out Fr. James' new book "Work In Progress" here: https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/jamesmartin Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On our debut episode of 2026 and the second season of “The Spiritual Life,” host James Martin, S.J., welcomes Trappist monk, poet and photographer, Br. Paul Quenon, onto the podcast. Br. Paul entered the Trappists in 1958 at the Abbey of Gethsemani in Kentucky, where Thomas Merton was his novice master. Together they discuss: - What it was like to have Thomas Merton as a novice master - How a monastery can be like a montessori school, where playing with different elements and forms of prayer, leads to one’s own spiritual practice - Responses to listener questions: how to do a spiritual reset at the beginning of a new year, how to build a personal relationship with God, and how to try to make sense out of tragedy. Link to Fr. Jim’s spiritual advice article on this episode: https://www.americamagazine.org/podcasts/2026/01/01/new-year-prayer-james-martin Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: [email protected] Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fr. Jim introduces this special episode on "The Coventry Carol" which is part of a new season of the podcast, "Hark! The Stories Behind Our Favorite Christmas Carols," from America Magazine, the Jesuit Review (AmericaMagazine.org). Listen to more episodes including, "O Holy Night," "The Little Drummer Boy," and "Silent Night" on: Apple Podcasts, Spotify and at America Magazine: https://www.americamagazine.org/hark Episode description: Most Christmas carols celebrate the birth of Jesus. But not “The Coventry Carol." This song centers on a biblical horror: the “massacre of the innocents,” King Herod’s order to kill all male babies two years old and under in Bethlehem. It’s a lullaby sung by mothers to children who may not survive the night. In this podcast episode, host Maggi Van Dorn travels to Coventry, England, to trace how this centuries-old lament survived the Reformation, a devastating library fire and the 1940 bombing of Coventry Cathedral during the Second World War— and how it has served the city’s witness to grief and reconciliation. Happy Advent and merry Christmas from Fr. Jim! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices