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The So What?

The So What?

J P Landman & Ruda Landman

31 episodesEN

Show overview

The So What? has been publishing since 2023, and across the 3 years since has built a catalogue of 31 episodes, alongside 1 trailer or bonus episode. That works out to roughly 10 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a monthly cadence, with the show now in its 5th season.

Episodes typically run twenty to thirty-five minutes — most land between 19 min and 29 min — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language News show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 months ago, with 2 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2023, with 13 episodes published. Published by J P Landman & Ruda Landman.

Episodes
31
Running
2023–2026 · 3y
Median length
22 min
Cadence
Monthly

From the publisher

In this series, we have conversations that South Africans need to hear. Veteran journalist and media personality Ruda Landman has in-depth conversations with Political & Trend Analyst J P Landman, who uses data and facts to cut through the hearsay, conspiracies and misinformation to get to the heart of issues affecting every citizen. Whether it's load shedding, corruption, politics, economics, foreign policy or anything in between, each episode will empower you with the knowledge you need to make your own informed decisions and opinions about the true state of the nation.

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S5 Ep 30US, China, South Africa: Quo Vadis?

In this episode we look at the big picture, especially the shifting trade relations between SA, China and the US.For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Mar 23, 202618 min

S5 Ep 29A Story of African Innovation

In this episode we tell the story of a young entrepreneur from Pretoria, whose award-winning innovation can change the delivery of medicine all over Africa.For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Feb 6, 202615 min

S4 Ep 28NHI: Where Are We Now?

After the Department of Health’s presentation to parliament three weeks ago and the medium-term budget statement last week, NHI is back in the headlines. Let’s see if we can come to grips with where we’re at. It’s a complex topic, so we’re spending a little bit more time on it than usual. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Nov 19, 202530 min

S4 Ep 27Project Vulindlela

In this episode, JP makes a case for his belief that South Africa has over the last five years shifted from being – or trying to be – a developmental state, to being a partnership state, where government and the private sector work together to build the country’s systems and structures. It is co-ordinated from the Presidency by what is called Project Vulindlela, which translates as “open the way”. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Oct 17, 202533 min

S4 Ep 26Getting a Grip on the Informal Sector

In a speech a few weeks ago, the outgoing CEO of Capitec cast doubt on the accuracy of the country’s recognition of the informal sector, and therefore the unemployment rate. In this episode, we look at how StatsSA arrive at their figures, and how that compares with international best practice. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Jul 22, 202515 min

S4 Ep 25Budgets and Tariffs: So Where Are We Now?

Both South Africa's budget and the president's visit to the White House got a lot of air time recently. After the dust has settled, where do we stand? For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Jun 5, 202520 min

S4 Ep 24Budget 3.0 A Moment of Decision

Up to now, South Africa’s parliament could only vote yes or no to a budget prepared by Treasury. They had no say over the nitty gritty. This time round, that has changed. It’s all in their hands. Which way will they decide: cut the expenditure cloak to fit the cloth of diminished income, or borrow more and incur a heavier debt burden? For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

May 14, 202518 min

S4 Ep 23Of Budgets and Tariffs

We look at two momentous developments on the same day: the passing of the fiscal framework with a paper-thin majority, and Donald Trump's trade tariffs against friend and foe. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Apr 9, 202522 min

S4 Ep 22South Africa's Water Crisis and the Reform Agenda

South Africa faces a deepening water crisis as water boards go unpaid and supply to customers is interrupted. This episode discusses how the system works, where it breaks down and what is being done about it. The good news: a lot is happening and has happened to secure the bulk supply. Municipalities remain the weakest link, but there too things are shifting. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Apr 7, 202526 min

S4 Ep 2140 Days That Changed the World

In just 40 days in office, Donald Trump has change the world order fundamentally – for the worse. What does this mean for South Africa, and what is the best response? For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Mar 7, 202520 min

S4 Ep 20AMSA: The Sound and Fury of a Partial Closing

AMSA’s closure of its long steel operations has caused a furore. It fits into a global picture a decade or more in the making, and it illuminates a hard policy choice for our government, like all governments: protect an industry and make the product more expensive, or let the industry find its way and define a different focus for your industrial policy. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Jan 29, 202525 min

S3 Ep 19Investment: Pulling It All Together

Turning South Africa into one big construction site is the expressed ideal of ministers from both the ANC and the DA. What is the state of play and what are the prospects? For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Nov 21, 202434 min

S3 Ep 18Some You Win, Some You Lose

After an exceptionally busy two weeks in politics and policy, we discuss continued progress with structural reform, supported by government-business co-operation; and also the local and national implications of instability in Gauteng metro governments. Some you win, some you lose. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Oct 21, 202417 min

S3 Ep 17So Far, So Good

Two-and-a-half months after the election, the Government of National Unity is holding. In this episode, we look at what is keeping it together, the benefits of that unity, and what may threaten it in future. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Sep 18, 202421 min

S3 Ep 16Elections: A Historic Shift to the Middle

This episode looks at the very important things that did NOT happen in this election season, as well as exploring the possibilities of the brand new coalition territory we’re entering into. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Jun 21, 202434 min

S3 Ep 15Elections Update

52 days before the election we look at the impact of the formation of Jacob Zuma’s MK Party, and reflect on possible developments after the elections, which may prove more important than what happens before 29 May 2024.For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Apr 8, 202415 min

S3 Ep 14Elections 2024

On the eve of the national elections, this episode outlines the broad patterns that can be discerned from poll numbers, and considers possible coalitions if the ANC were to lose their ruling majority. In light of speculation about policy uncertainty and populism, we also look at trends in the 2024 budget.So what? Expectations that we will have “a new national government” are unrealistic. Nationally, the ANC will still be the biggest party by a margin and will invite other parties to join a coalition if necessary. The major question is whether coalition governments may need to be formed on provincial level. Economic policies, meanwhile, are holding steady. The issue is not uncertainty but the pace of implementation. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Feb 29, 202421 min

S3 Ep 132024 - Electricity, Once Again!

This episode unpacks the Integrated Resource Plan 2023, recently published for public comment in order to replace the previous version from 2019. It is a deeply disappointing document, visionless and without urgency.So what? Eskom will not get us out of the our energy crisis. The utility’s energy availability factor keeps falling, sketching a relentless downward trend. Fortunately, regulatory reform since 2021 has opened the way for the private sector to step into the breach. This is happening. An opportunity for re-industrialisation in the sphere of renewable energy still exists. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Jan 18, 202427 min

S2 Ep 12Thoughts After a Visit to China

In this episode, JP reflects on his impressions after a short study visit to China. In just 45 years, they have lifted themselves out of poverty. It is an astonishing achievement. So what? The hallmark of the Chinese growth story is pragmatism and pursuing what works. They will determine their own destiny, regardless of the actions of outsiders. For more about JP, and to read his newsletter, please visit his website.

Nov 10, 202322 min

Introducing: The So What? With Ruda Landman and JP Landman

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Hosted Ruda Landman, The So What podcast is a series of chats with political-economic analyst JP Landman. Each episode takes a deep dive into a South African issue - load shedding, corruption, politics, economics, foreign policy or anything in between. This is the podcast where you can learn the facts and discover insights about the complex South African socio-political landscape.

Oct 31, 20230 min
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