The Short Term Show
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content. About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
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Show overview
The Short Term Show has been publishing since 2021, and across the 5 years since has built a catalogue of 249 episodes. That works out to roughly 160 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a weekly cadence.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 33 min and 44 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-US-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed yesterday, with 19 episodes already out so far this year. Published by Avery Carl.
From the publisher
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content. About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
Latest Episodes
View all 249 episodesWhat Actually Triggers an IRS Audit on Rentals ft. Ana Klein
The Asset Protection Hack That Stops Lawsuits Before They Start with Dohn Thornton
A New Way for Property Managers to Get Clients ft. Emily Tunggala
Tax Savings Won’t Save a Bad Deal with Brian Boyd
The Real Chaos Behind Setting Up STRs ft. Kim Fitzpatrick
The Biggest Due Diligence Mistakes Killing Your Deals with Ari Rastegar
How to Win in Broken Bow Without Overspending ft. Cathy Craig
On this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Cathy Craig, a top agent and investor in Broken Bow, Oklahoma, who shares an inside look at the current market and why now may be a prime time to buy. She explains how prices have come down significantly from peak levels while demand and occupancy remain strong, pushing back on the idea of “oversaturation” and emphasizing that the market continues to grow with infrastructure and tourism. Cathy also highlights what actually drives success in this market, focusing on guest experience, smart upgrades, and avoiding over-investing in unnecessary amenities. She wraps with real examples of high-performing properties and practical advice on buying right, adding value, and standing out without overspending. How to connect with Cathy: www.theshorttermshop.com How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
How to Protect Your Short Term Rental From Lawsuits ft. Katie Johnson
Avery is joined by Katie Johnson, a short-term rental attorney and investor who breaks down the most common legal mistakes hosts make and how to avoid them. She explains key risks like missing deed restrictions, improperly handling LLCs, and failing to secure adequate insurance, along with how to protect yourself from lawsuits tied to pools, amenities, and guest incidents. Katie also dives into service animals vs. emotional support animals, the legal realities of raising capital, and why setting up your business structure correctly from the start is critical. The conversation highlights how being proactive with legal strategy can save investors from costly mistakes down the road. How to connect with Katie: @strlaw.with.katiestrlaw.comkatiejohnsonplc.com How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Turning Construction Skills Into Short-Term Rental Cash Flow ft. Robert Warren
On this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Robert Warren, a real estate investor who shares how decades of experience in building, rehabbing, and developing led him to short-term rentals. He breaks down how he transitioned from long-term rentals and flips into STRs, including buying and optimizing properties in Gulf Shores and the Smokies for stronger cash flow and seasonality advantages. Robert also dives into creative deal-making, like using 1031 exchanges and value-add renovations to scale faster, while emphasizing the importance of buying right, avoiding over-leverage, and maximizing guest experience. He wraps with practical advice on investing mindset, building wealth through assets, and using time and skills to create equity early on. How to connect with Robert: detaildesign.biz How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
How Backyard Amenities Turned One STR into a $217K Performer with John and Christina McNaught
On this week's episode, Avery is joined by John and Christina McNaught. The couple shares how they transitioned from long-term rentals into short-term rentals after realizing a small Airbnb unit on their property could cover their mortgage and generate additional cash flow. They discuss investing in the Bradenton, Florida market, including seasonality patterns, how being within about 15 minutes of the beach still works for guests, and why understanding the typical “family vacation” guest avatar is critical when designing a property. John and Christina also explain how strategic amenity upgrades like a game room, mini golf, playground, and pickleball court helped turn one property from about $95K in annual revenue into more than $217K. Connect with an agent: [email protected] How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Why Condos Dominate the Branson Vacation Rental Market with David Taylor
On this week’s episode, Avery is joined by David Taylor. David shares how he transitioned from construction and home inspecting into short term rental investing, ultimately choosing Branson, Missouri for its affordability and strong 10-month tourism season. He breaks down purchasing a brand-new three-bedroom condo for $225,000 and generating nearly $53,000 in gross revenue within his first partial year, highlighting why condos dominate the Branson market and why that can actually be an advantage for out-of-state investors. The conversation also covers financing non-warrantable condos, navigating vacation rental zoning, and why Branson is an ideal entry point for new investors who want solid returns without jumping into a half-million-dollar property. How to connect with David: www.theshorttermshop.com How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Smart STR Upgrades That Actually Increase ROI with Celeste DiRocco and Philip Pane
On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Celeste DiRocco and Philip Pane of Parklin Interiors. They share how they went from buying their first short term rental sight unseen in Gatlinburg to building a six property portfolio across Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, and Virginia while designing more than 200 short term rentals nationwide. Celeste explains how thoughtful, ROI focused design choices like strategic accent walls, updated lighting, elevated bedding, and strong exterior appeal can dramatically increase bookings without blowing the budget. They also discuss common investor mistakes, including overspending in the wrong areas, over cramming guest capacity, and going too over the top with themes that can hurt long term resale value. The conversation wraps with insights on enhancing the guest experience, building equity through smart renovations, and why focusing on the right doors instead of more doors can transform your investing strategy. How to connect with Celeste and Phillip: https://www.instagram.com/parklin_interiors/https://www.instagram.com/southern_serenity_stays/ https://parklininteriors.com/ How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Amenity Stacking, Snowstorms and Scaling STRs in New York ft. Josh Briner
On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Josh Briner. Josh shares how he transitioned from a background in education and flipping distressed properties into building a short term rental portfolio in upstate New York, including the Finger Lakes and Buffalo area. He dives into why he prefers value-add BRRRR deals over turnkey properties, how amenity stacking like pools and saunas can dramatically impact revenue, and what investors should realistically expect during the first year of launching a luxury rental. The conversation also covers scaling a management company to over 100 doors, navigating snow removal and winter challenges, and the mindset required to succeed long term in the hospitality-driven short term rental business. How to connect with Josh: https://www.facebook.com/share/1Cmpm7krpV/?mibextid=wwXIfr https://www.facebook.com/share/g/19kR6UzmSP/?mibextid=wwXIfr How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Investor Partnerships That Actually Work with Aubrey Carlson
On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Aubrey Carlson, owner of Salt and Sky Lodging Company and a former military helicopter pilot, to talk about building a short-term rental portfolio in both San Diego and Birmingham, Alabama. Aubrey shares how she used a VA loan and a house-hack-style fixer strategy to break into an expensive coastal market, then expanded into Birmingham with BRRRR-friendly properties that could also perform as short-term and midterm rentals. She also breaks down how she partnered with investors early on—using detailed deal presentations at first, then evolving the structure to properly value rehab labor, design, and ongoing management. Finally, Aubrey emphasizes long-term thinking, choosing strong markets, and leveraging education and community to accelerate portfolio growth. How to connect with Aubrey: www.saltandskylodgingco.com https://www.instagram.com/saltandskylodgingco/ How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon Production done by Outlier Audio
Why Passion-Driven Investing Wins in Short Term Rentals with Matt Holmes
On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Matt Holmes of Get Up North Retreats to explore building a short-term rental business rooted in passion, relationships, and outdoor hospitality. Matt shares how his love of fishing, hunting, and family time led him to pivot from land and off-lake cabins into lakefront rentals—and ultimately into owning and operating a historic Minnesota campground. They discuss why understanding what guests actually want (like lake access), embracing seasonality, and betting on yourself can unlock opportunities even without massive capital. This episode is a powerful reminder that investing in places you truly believe in can create both strong returns and meaningful impact. How to connect with Matt: www.getupnorthretreats.com www.troutlakecampground.com https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61566352371201 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574524231835 How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon Production done by Outlier Audio
Stabilization, Not Saturation: The Truth About STR Performance ft. Kenny Bedwell
On this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Kenny Bedwell to break down what the short-term rental data actually says about the past few years and what investors should realistically expect heading into 2026. They discuss why the industry is experiencing stabilization rather than collapse, how average revenue declines are masking strong performance among top operators, and why treating short-term rentals like a professional business matters more than ever. Kenny explains the growing performance gap between average and top-tier properties, shares insights on financing mistakes and overleveraging, and outlines why focusing on being in the top 10% is the key to long-term success. The conversation wraps with Kenny’s outlook for 2026 and details on his upcoming STR Scale Summit for investors looking to thoughtfully scale their portfolios. How to connect with Kenny: strinsights.com How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon Production done by Outlier Audio
The Credit Card Strategy Most Real Estate Investors Miss with Ross Alcorn
On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Ross Alcorn, founder of Itinerary Boss, to break down how real estate investors can use credit card strategy to turn everyday spend into serious travel rewards or bottom-line value. Ross shares how his background in sales, real estate investing, and trip planning led him to uncover powerful points strategies—from welcome bonuses to transferable currencies—that most investors completely overlook. They dive into common mistakes like underutilizing Amex points, paying vendors via ACH without earning rewards, and leaving massive value on the table when furnishing or renovating properties. This episode is a practical crash course on leveraging credit cards smarter to fund travel freedom without increasing spending. How to connect with Ross: https://www.instagram.com/itineraryboss https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossalcornru/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1mmMJ6z3JdEOUJKUjLh8bD?si=a0e79b04f3084e68 How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon Production done by Outlier Audio
Why Last-Minute Bookings Are Reshaping Vacation Rental Strategy with Stacey St. John
On this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Stacey St. John to dig into what’s really happening in today’s short-term rental market, with a particular focus on Myrtle Beach. They discuss how travel behavior has shifted toward more last-minute bookings, why pricing and revenue management matter more than ever, and how investors should think about buying opportunities in slower, more negotiable vacation markets. Stacey also shares her approach to scaling a property management portfolio, the importance of early bookings, and why tools like PriceLabs still require hands-on strategy. The conversation wraps with insights on growth goals, market seasonality, and opportunities for women looking to deepen their short-term rental education. How to connect with Stacey: https://staceystjohn.com/https://www.instagram.com/stacey_st.john/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceystjohn/ How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon Production done by Outlier Audio
Building a Profitable STR Without Hot Tubs or Luxury Finishes with Kira D’Annunzio
On this week's episode, Avery is joined by Kira D’Annunzio to share how she built a highly successful Poconos short-term rental by leaning into branding, storytelling, and knowing her exact guest avatar. Kira walks through her journey from repeated career layoffs to financial independence through real estate, explaining how she used equity, off-market deals, and flexible rental strategies to scale her portfolio. They dive deep into why experience-driven properties outperform generic “luxury” listings, how her Bigfoot-themed cabin consistently earns five-star reviews without expensive amenities, and why targeting families and kids has been a massive competitive advantage. How to connect with Kira: airbnb.com/h/bigfootsnook How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon Production done by Outlier Audio
Why 2026 Needs to Be Boring for STR Investors with Luke Carl
On this week's episode, Avery is joined by her husband Luke for a candid end-of-year wrap-up on what actually happened in short-term rentals and real estate in 2025—and what fundamentals will matter most going into 2026. They dig into why the market finally feels “boring” again (and why that’s a good thing), how low transaction volume means we’ve effectively been in a housing downturn for years, and why vacation markets feel cycles more intensely than primary-home markets. Avery and Luke also break down declining travel demand, the over-obsession with expensive amenities, and why long-term thinking, pricing discipline, and solid systems—not gimmicks—will win in the next phase of the cycle. How to connect with Avery and Luke: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon Production done by Outlier Audio