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The LGBTQ says they don't exist...

These witnesses' lives prove that being "gay" is NOT immutable. Each of them has found a way out, and testifies that there is a better way to live. The Ruth Institute has collected many of these "former LGBTQIA+" and we want YOU to share their truths! It's as simple as copying a link from the Ruth Institute's Cloud of Witnesses and pasting it on your Facebook, or Twitter, or Instagram timeline! Commitment 2020 form: will you Support, Educate, or Advocate this year? Find out how. Cloud of Witnesses: stories and testimonies from people who've left the "gay" lifestyle We have the numbers and the truth that the Sexual Revolution has not made people happy. Hundreds of millions of people have been irreparably harmed by the Sexual Revolution. If you've been harmed by the Sexual Revolution, whether a child (or spouse) of divorce, a single mother, a post-abortive man or woman, a gender dysphoric, or a former LGBTQIA+, PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR YOUR STORY!

Feb 7, 202026 min

S1 Ep 19Leaving a Lifetime of Homosexuality: Rev. Charlene Cothran on the Dr J Show

Join us in helping protect the rights of people to choose their own lifestyle and orientation: https://39617564.hs-sites.com/en/protect-the-defectors After 29 years of lesbian life, Ms. Cothran experienced a radical transformation in 2006 months after an encounter with Jesus Christ during Chicago Black Gay Pride event. By her new life and work, Charlene offers evidence that God is still in the business of changing lives! She is now a pro-family activist, an international evangelist, and conference speaker. She offers expert testimony for legislators fighting for religious freedom in the U.S. and abroad. Reverend Charlene E. Cothran is President of The Evidence Ministry, Inc., a ministry of the Zion Baptist Church of Palm Coast, Florida. Charlene is a former advocate for gay rights and former active member of: the Human Rights Campaign, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, the National Lesbian Conference, the National Black Gay and Lesbian Leadership Forum, recruited by the VICTORY Fund, and was the co-founder of In The Life Atlanta (Black gay pride), and founder of Hospitality Atlanta. She was also the publisher of an internationally distributed gay and lesbian lifestyles magazine, VENUS. Resources Rev. Cothran's ministry: TheEvidenceMinistry.org Doug Mainwaring's interview with Rev. Cothran on YouTube

Jan 31, 20201h 8m

Are Abortions Being Done on Wanted Children? Fr. Sullins on The Dr J Show

Father Sullins has released a brand new study about the affect of abortion on wanted pregnancies. This type of abortion almost never gets spoken about, and many will tell you it doesn't exist. Are wanted children aborted? Why? What happens to the would-be mothers? Learn it all here. Fr Paul Sullins, Ph.D., is senior research associate at the Ruth Institute, and his list of writings stretches past all of our arms. He's our guest this week to offer insights from his brand new research. Read the article here: Aborting the Wanted Child Sullins analysis / longitudinal study: Affective and Substance Abuse Disorders Following Abortion by Pregnancy Intention in the United States: A Longitudinal Cohort Study Turnaway Study and accompanying Salon article Action item: go to the Ruth Institute Facebook Page and share the images about this important research.

Jan 24, 20201h 1m

Marriage Reduces Abortion (plus 10 more reasons to support it!)

(January 23, 2020) Dr J is once again a guest of Michelle McAloon, Ellen Taylor, and Mike Romano on LA Catholic Morning. They're discussing how marriage protects against abortion and how you can make the family great again. 10 Reasons Your Marriage Matters

Jan 23, 202016 min

To Create a World Beyond Gender: Philosophies and the Sexual Revolution (Scott Yenor on Dr J)

Is it possible to achieve the things that the Sexual Revolution wants? Or is it just a bid for power? What is the history of the theories, and where do these ideas come from? Scott is a professor of political science at Boise State University. He lives near Boise with his wife, Amy. They have five kids, one out of college and married, two in college, one senior in high school (Lumpy), and a sixth grader (Biscuit). Scott is also chairman of the board at a classical Christian school, the Ambrose School, which is in Meridian, Idaho. He is author of Family Politics, the idea of marriage in modern political thought, David Hume's Humanity, a book on Reconstruction, and a forthcoming book published by Baylor University Press entitled Recovering Family Life: The Rolling Revolution and Its Limits, published later this summer (Lord willing!).

Jan 17, 20201h 6m

What *Really* Happens to Women after an Abortion?

(January 16, 2020) Fr. Paul Sullins is once again a guest of Drew Mariani on his eponymous show on Relevant Radio. They're discussing several new studies on post-abortion regret, including the Turnaway Study from the University of California that seriously misrepresents its results (Salon article). Fr Sullins's newest study, on the aftermath of wanted pregnancies that were aborted, is also available. Public Discourse article (with link to Sullins study): ruthinstitute.org/ruth-speaks-out/aborting-the-wanted-child Project Rachel: hopeafterabortion.com

Jan 16, 202024 min

Priestly Celibacy

(January 14, 2020) Fr. Paul Sullins is once again a guest of Drew Mariani on his eponymous show on Relevant Radio. They're discussing clerical celibacy in the context of the recent controversy involving Pope Benedict removing his name from the recently-released book on the topic "From the Depths of Our Hearts."

Jan 14, 202022 min

The Divorce Court Nightmare: Stephen Baskerville on the Dr. J Show

It's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of The Dr J Show. This week's guest is Dr. Stephen Baskerville, an expert in the politics surrounding family court. He is widely recognized as a leading authority on fatherhood, family policy, and sexual politics, and in addition to authoring several books, his writings have appeared in leading national and international publications, both popular and scholarly. He writes on comparative and international politics and on political ideologies with an emphasis on religion, family policy, and sexuality. This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Jan 3, 202057 min

New Year's Resolutions

We're about to roar into the 2020's. Are resolutions on your mind? What do you want to accomplish? How can we make the world a better, brighter place? Dr. Morse offers some action items and suggestions for New Year's resolutions! Fr Paul Sullins, Ph.D., is senior research associate at the Ruth Institute, and his list of writings stretches past all of our arms. He's our guest this week on The Dr J Show to offer insights from his research on topics as varied as the recent clergy sex abuse scandal all the way to positive hope for the New Year. This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Dec 27, 20191h 1m

Christmas Special

Merry Christmas from the Ruth Institute! Blessings to you and yours this holiday season. This show's content has been sourced from the original Christmas narrative that continues to bring hope to the world. Enjoy. This is an audio podcast of The Dr J Show; video episode is also available.

Dec 20, 201919 min

Escaping the LGBT Culture: Doug Mainwaring on The Dr J Show

It's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of The Dr J Show. This week's guest is Doug Mainwaring, journalist, author, and activist. He works to promote the rights of children and strengthen families and marriage--tune in to this episode of The Dr J Show to hear how and why. This is an audio podcast of our newest video project, The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Dec 13, 20191h 9m

The New Colonialism of the Sexual Revolution

(December 12, 2019) Dr J is in Africa! She was invited to speak at the 2019 National Youth Conference (hosted by the Diocese of Kasana-Luweero in Uganda). Y'all, there are 5000 people here, and she's about to talk about the threat from "The New Colonialism of the Sexual Revolution." Link: on our website is the text of the speech with citations.

Dec 12, 201952 min

The REAL Saint Nick: do you know who Santa Claus really was?

It's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of The Dr J Show. This week's topic is St. Nicholas: the historical figure in whom Santa Claus has his origins. For video of "The Dr J Show," check out our website or YouTube.com/RuthInstitute. Tune in every Friday to hear what we're talking about!

Dec 6, 201923 min

Does God Make People Gay?

(December 3, 2019) Fr Paul Sullins is a guest of Father Robert McTeigue on The Station of the Cross's "The Catholic Current." The question under discussion today is "'born this way:' does God make people gay?" " 'Born That Way' No More: The New Science of Sexual Orientation," Dr. Sullins in Public Discourse Ganna study & accompanying New York Times article Something More Beautiful, talk by Hudson Byblow

Dec 3, 201945 min

The Theology of Home: Dr Carrie Gress on The Dr J Show

(November 2019) It's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of "The Dr J Show." This week's guest is Dr. Carrie Gress, editor of Theology of Home, writer, author, mother, and more. Stay tuned for her interview in this episode of The Dr J Show. This is an audio podcast of our newest video project, The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Nov 29, 201957 min

Something More Beautiful

(November 23, 2019) The Ruth Institute and Stations of the Cross are pleased to present "Something More Beautiful," a talk by Hudson Byblow about his journey through same-sex attraction and beyond labels. Hudson's search for truth led beyond current cultural labels that are liberally applied to situations like his. This kind of narrative isn't as findable, but we're working to change that: check out ruthinstitute.org for more information on our cloud of witnesses.

Nov 24, 201952 min

Them Before Us: Advocating for the Rights of Children with Katy Faust

(November 2019) It's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of "The Dr J Show." This week's guest is Katy Faust, founder of Them Before Us, an organization devoted to defending children's rights in family structure. She's written actively on the subject since 2012, filed 3 amicus briefs in support of children's rights, worked with the largest Chinese adoption agency in the world, leads CanaVox in Washington State, and more--stay tuned for her interview in this episode of The Dr J Show. This is an audio podcast of our newest video project, The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Nov 22, 20191h 6m

Fighting Back Against the Sexual Revolution

(November 21, 2019) Dr J is a guest of Father Robert McTeigue on The Station of the Cross's "The Catholic Current." Today they're discussing the segment of the population who once identified as LGBT but no longer does…and how those people are not acknowledged to exist by the current LGBT ideology. For more on the resources discussed in the episode, see our ongoing "Cloud of Witnesses" project at ruthinstitute.org/cloud-of-witnesses. Also check out our newest project The Dr J Show on our website and YouTube.

Nov 21, 201943 min

A New Study on the Contagiousness of Divorce

(November 15, 2019) Dr J is once again Todd Wilkin's guest on "Issues, Etc." They're discussing the ways divorce functions as a social contagion, spring boarding off a Pew report last month to that effect. Pew Research Center article: Is Divorce Contagious?

Nov 15, 201919 min

Why Celibacy? Reclaiming the Fatherhood of the Priest - Fr Carter Griffin on The Dr J Show

(November 1, 2019) It's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of "The Dr J Show." This week's guest is Fr Carter Griffin, rector of St John Paul II Seminary and author of Why Celibacy: Reclaiming the Fatherhood of the Priest. They're discussing priests' ministry, celibacy, and more--stay tuned for this episode of The Dr J Show. This is an audio podcast of our newest video project, The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Nov 15, 201959 min

Florida is Sued Over Reparative Therapy? Robert Vazzo on Dr. J

It's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of "The Dr J Show." This week's guest is Robert Vazzo, marriage and family therapist and specialist in helping clients to overcome unwanted same-sex attraction. He was recently involved in a law suit involving the state of Florida and conversion therapy bans--stay tuned to hear all about that and more on this episode of The Dr J Show. This is an audio podcast of our newest video project, The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Nov 8, 20191h 0m

The Priests We Need: Interview with Kevin Wells

(October 2019) It's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of "The Dr J Show." This week's guest is Kevin Wells, former sports reporter and author of The Priests We Need and Burst, A Story of God's Grace When Life Falls Apart. He and Dr J are discussing infertility, good priests, bad priests, and more in this episode of The Dr J Show. This is an audio podcast of our newest video project, The Dr J Show. Full video episode is available here.

Nov 1, 20191h 5m

#SaveJames

(October 25, 2019) This Friday, we have some urgent action items for you with regards to a breaking case in Texas. James Younger, a 7-year-old boy, appears to be being forced to live as a girl by his non-biological mother. He is in danger of being chemically and possibly surgically transitioned in addition to being forced to wear dresses, a train of craziness that began when he watched "Frozen" and liked the character Elsa. We're making available hotlines to Governor Abbott, petitions, and generally raising awareness, which may have an effect on Judge Kim Cooks' handling of this case. More details in this special breaking news episode of The Dr J Show. Governor Abbott's opinion hotline is (512) 463-1782 or gov.texas.gov/contact, to reach Texas governor Greg Abbott. The Judge handling this case is Democrat Kim Cooks of the 255th Family District Court. The hashtag for this issue is #SaveJames. Keep the heat on! LifePetitions also has a SaveJames petition, currently with over 76,000 signatures: Support Dad and Texas Governor's bid to save 7-year-old boy from being turned into girl

Oct 25, 201923 min

Custody Dispute between Parents Who Disagree about Sexually Transitioning Their Son

(October 24, 2019) Dr J is once again Todd Wilkin's guest on Issues, Etc. They're discussing the terrible case of James Younger, which involves issues surrounding transition of a minor, parental custody, divorce, and artificial reproductive technologies. Dr J mentioned a segment of our new video podcast where she interviewed Brandon Showalter for a broad overview of the current transgender movement; that's available here.

Oct 24, 201917 min

Trauma and the Best Ways to Help the Victims: Dr. Deborah Rodriguez interview

By now you know the drill: it's Friday, and this is an audio podcast of our weekly video broadcast of "The Dr J Show." This week's guest is Dr. Deborah Rodriguez, a pediatrician whose specialty is working with children and families who've experienced trauma, including survivors of abuse and human trafficking. She works with the Hopeful Hearts Ministry and the Maria Goretti Network, and she's a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Child Abuse and Neglect. New episodes of the Dr J Show drop every Friday at ruthinstitute.org and YouTube/RuthInstitute. Check out the show write-up for more resources, readings, and links.

Oct 11, 20191h 4m

What are we doing to children? Dr. Cretella talks about gender dysphoria

So we're trying a new content stream--a news-y video program called "The Dr J Show." Dr J gets to meet a lot of experts in her line of work, and we'd like to also introduce them to you. This is the audio of our fourth episode's interview with guest Dr Michelle Cretella. She's executive director of the American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds), and she's also one of the world's most outspoken critics of gender ideology in pediatrics. Dr J has her complete bio and a great conversation coming up. The video and more resources are available in the show write-up here. For the video of "The Dr J Show," check out our website or YouTube.com/RuthInstitute. Tune in every Friday for a new episode.

Oct 4, 20191h 12m

Byproducts of the #MeToo Movement and Culture of Death

(October 1, 2019) Dr J is once again a guest on Ave Maria Radio's "Catholic Connection," where she's speaking with host Teresa Tomeo about current events in culture and politics. They're discussing power plays in business and government on sexual revolutionary topics, specifically the CDC's finding that 1 in 16 women's first sexual experience was forced, Mattel's launch of a gender-neutral doll line because "the children have asked for it," and more. Articles referenced in this podcast: USA Today: "For 1 in 16 US women, first sexual intercourse experience was rape, study says" NPR: "Mattel Launches New Gender-Neutral Dolls"

Oct 1, 201920 min

The Pro-Life Movement: Combatting the Sexual Revolution on the Front Lines

(September 28, 2019) Dr J is invited to give the keynote address at Pro-Life Action Ministries in St. Paul, Minnesota. It's the oldest, largest direct action pro-life group in the states, and her talk is entitled "The Pro-Life Movement: Combatting the Sexual Revolution on the Front Lines." PowerPoint slides are available for this presentation over at our website.

Sep 28, 201941 min

A Survivor's Tale of Priestly Abuse: Allen Hébert Interview

So we're trying a new content stream--a news-y video program called "The Dr J Show." Dr J gets to meet a lot of experts in her line of work, and we'd like to introduce some of them to you. This is the audio of our third episode's interview with guest Allen Hébert. In his book Abuse of Trust, Allen shares stories of sexual abuse victims' experiences, hope, and healing, including his own abuse at the hands of his parish priest. For the video of "The Dr J Show," check out our website or YouTube.com/RuthInstitute. Tune in every Friday for a new episode.

Sep 27, 20191h 10m

Be A Happier Parent on Meet the Author

(September 26, 2019) Our own Betsy Kerekes gave an interview to Ken Huck on Radio Maria's Meet the Author about her newest book, Be a Happier Parent or Laugh Trying.

Sep 26, 201925 min

MUMS After Dark: Protecting our Children from the Gender Ideology

(September 20, 2019) Dr J is invited to speak at the inaugural gathering of "MUMS After Dark" at St Andrew the Apostle Catholic Church in Phoenix, Arizona. Her talk is entitled "Protecting our Children from the Gender Ideology." PowerPoint slides are available for this presentation over at our website.

Sep 20, 201957 min

New Findings on a Gay Gene

(September 13, 2019) Dr J is once again Todd Wilkin's guest on Issues, Etc. Their discussion springboards off Science's article on a study that concluded genetics was not a predictor of homosexuality. Ruth Institute researcher Fr. Paul Sullins has also written an article in response: "The Gay Gene Myth Has Been Exploded."

Sep 14, 201923 min

Dr. J and Rebecca Oas: Can a Christian support the global family planning movement?

So we're trying a new content stream--a news-y video program called "The Dr J Show." Dr J gets to meet a lot of experts in her line of work, and we'd like to introduce some of them (as many as possible, really) to you. This is the audio of our second episode's interview with guest Rebecca Oas. Dr. Oas researches family planning metrics and international maternal health, and she's associate director of research for C-FAM, the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute.

Sep 13, 201937 min

Culture, Morality, & Crisis on The Catholic Current

(September 10, 2019) Dr J is a guest of Father Robert McTeigue on The Station of the Cross's The Catholic Current. Today they're discussing how Christians can interact with the culture to change it for the better. Briefly mentioned was our newest video podcasting project, "The Dr J Show;" check it out on our website and YouTube.

Sep 10, 201943 min

Dr J Show audio: Interview with Brandon Showalter

So we're trying a new content stream--more of a news-y video program. Dr J gets to meet a lot of cool people in her line of work, and we'd like to introduce some of them (as many as possible, honestly) to you. This is the audio of our first episode's interview with guest Brandon Showalter. Dr J has his bio, and then we're off and running, and they'll be discussing transgenderism. Brandon's a reporter for the Christian Post, and this is one of his beats, so he's written an incredible number of articles on the subject. The list of links in the show notes is long but well worth reading. Just a warning: the video of this episode has some graphic pictures. The audio will have a couple of graphic descriptions in it.

Sep 6, 201951 min

The Serious Psychological After-Effects of Abortion

(August 1, 2019) Fr Paul Sullins is once again Molly Smith's guest on Salem Radio's "From the Median." Their topic today is the effects of abortion on women, specifically the serious psychological after-effects and the difference in the quality of studies on the subject coming out of America and Europe.

Aug 2, 201943 min

The Sexual State on Think Biblically

(August 1, 2019) Dr J is a guest of Sean McDowell and Scott B. Rae's "Think Biblically: Conversations on Faith and Culture" podcast from Biola University. They're discussing Dr J's latest Book, The Sexual State, and pillars and tenets of the sexual revolution and its continuing effects on society and culture.

Aug 1, 201934 min

Kids Don't Count

(July 26, 2019) Dr J is once again Molly Smith's guest on Salem Radio's "From the Median." They're discussing how various American professional societies are promoting sexual deviance of all kinds…which will result in further destruction of the family. The American Psychological Association is prominently involved, which is mind-boggling given the effects on children. Check out Dr. J's companion article, "Kids Don't Count," published at our website and The Stream.

Jul 29, 201941 min

The American Psychological Association Promotes "Consensual Non-Monogamy and Relationship Anarchy"

(July 26, 2019) Dr J is once again Todd Wilkin's guest on Issues, Etc. They're discussing the American Psychological Association's promotion of "consensual non-monogamy and relationship anarchy," which just…sound great, don't they?

Jul 27, 201916 min

LGBTQ "Civil Rights" at the NAACP Convention

(July 26, 2019) Dr J is once again a guest on Ave Maria Radio's Catholic Connection, where she's speaking with host Teresa Tomeo about current events in culture and politics. They're discussing power plays with business organizations and professional associations on sexual revolutionary topics, specifically the "Gender Justice Toolkit" panel at the upcoming NAACP convention in Detroit.

Jul 26, 201919 min

The Eucharist

(July 25, 2019) Fr. Paul Sullins is once again a guest of Drew Mariani on his eponymous show on Relevant Radio. They're discussing the eucharist: what it means to hold the Catholic belief of transubstantiation. This is in the context of a recent poll of Americans on various religious beliefs and traditions.

Jul 25, 201923 min

Making the Case for Traditional Catholic Sexual Morality

(July 23, 2019) Dr J is invited to speak at Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Erath, Louisiana by Fr. Metrejean. Her talk is entitled "Making the Case for Traditional Catholic Sexual Morality." PowerPoint slides are available for this presentation over at our website, too.

Jul 23, 201957 min

What Have We Wrought?

(July 16, 2019) Dr J is once again Kathleen Benfield's guest on "The Current Word," a radio project of the American Family Association of New Orleans. Today they're discussing the Guidry case out of Lafayette and the American Psychological Association's new stance on consensual non-monogamy. Some of the topics discussed in this episode are not suitable for young ears.

Jul 16, 201931 min

Entitlement Sex

(July 15, 2019) Dr J is once again Todd Wilkin's guest on "Issues, Etc." Their topic today is "entitlement sex"--what Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Theodore McCarrick, and other predators all have in common. Dr J's companion article over at the National Catholic Register: What DO Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, and Theodore McCarrick Have in Common?

Jul 15, 201923 min

Driving Home the Faith: Don't Change the Our Father!

(July 8, 2019) Dr J is Father Rob Jack's guest on Sacred Heart Radio's "Driving Home the Faith." They're discussing the Pope's change to the Italian wording of the "Our Father," which he also proposes to do in English. The Ruth Institute and LifeSite News have a joint petition out on the Our Father alteration; if you'd like to sign it, check out ruthinstitute.org/petitions.

Jul 8, 201913 min

Not the Sperm You Thought You Had...

(July 2, 2019) Dr J is Father Rob Jack's guest on Sacred Heart Radio's "Driving Home the Faith." They're discussing the ethics of sperm donation & the lack of transparency generally in the fertility industry, specifically in light of the recent Canadian case where a doctor lost his license after impregnating his patients with his own sperm without their knowledge or consent.

Jul 3, 201916 min

Changing the Our Father? Stella Morabito on Disrupting Memory, Tradition and Community

(July 2, 2019) Dr J interviews Stella Moribito, former CIA analyst and expert on the nature and use of propaganda in political and social movements. They're discussing the Pope's proposed change to the English wording of the "Our Father." The Ruth Institute and LifeSiteNews have a joint petition out on this; if you'd like to sign it, check out ruthinstitute.org/petitions.

Jul 2, 201922 min

Acton 2019: Love and Economics: A Foundational Issue for a Free Society

(June 21, 2019) We've just started summer here in the northern hemisphere, and you know what that means: this year's Acton University is in full swing! Dr J is an Acton fellow; she's been with the program since the beginning. Her sessions this year highlight how various ideologies ingrained in our culture are products of the toxic sexual revolution and further its aim of consolidating power in the hands of elites. This is her second talk, entitled "Love and Economics: A Foundational Issue for a Free Society." If you missed Dr J's first seminar from Acton this year, catch it right here in our podcast stream; also check out our website for her Q&A sessions after each talk.

Jun 21, 20191h 0m

Acton 2019: The Gender Ideology and the Future of the Free Society

(June 20, 2019) This year's Acton University is getting underway! Dr J is an Acton fellow; she's been with the program since the beginning. Her sessions this year highlight how various ideologies ingrained in our culture are products of the toxic sexual revolution and further its aim of consolidating power in the hands of elites. This is her first talk, entitled "The Gender Ideology and the Future of the Free Society." Catch her second seminar from Acton right here in our podcast stream; also check out our website for her Q&A sessions (after each talk) and PowerPoint presentations.

Jun 20, 201954 min

Scapegoating McCarrick

(June 19, 2019) Fr. Paul Sullins is Michael Voris' guest on "The Vortex." They're discussing clerical sexual abuse, the scapegoating of disgraced former cardinal Theodore McCarrick, homosexual subculture within Catholic seminaries, and the two Sullins reports on the data so far.

Jun 19, 201927 min