The Ringer Wrestling Show

Former WWE writer Andrew Goldstein joins David Shoemaker to discuss fatherhood (01:30) before jumping into their preview for Sunday’s PPV (08:00), big names that could conceivably win the Royal Rumble match (21:30), and some guesses on surprise entrants (36:00). They wrap up by brainstorming names for their babies’ tag team (55:00). Host: David Shoemaker Guest: Andrew Goldstein Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Peter Rosenberg (the Marty Jannetty to David Shoemaker’s Shawn Michaels) calls in to discuss the latest news and rumors regarding All Elite Wrestling (01:30), the creation of the WWE Women’s Tag Team Titles (21:00), and the upcoming Royal Rumble (24:00). Then, Shoemaker dives into the the ole’ Twitter Mailbag (35:00). Host: David Shoemaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The McMahon family returns to ‘Raw’ (01:15), breaking down 'TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs’ (05:00), a tiresome Ambrose-Rollins match (17:15), Charlotte’s big bump (25:00), Bandido chooses Ring of Honor (33:45), and more. Host: David Shoemaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The problems with ‘Raw’ (01:30); 'TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs’ predictions (12:15); Daniel Bryan’s win over Mustafa Ali on ‘SmackDown’ (24:15); plus news from outside the ring (53:00). Host: David Shoemaker Guest: Greg Wyshynski Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Remembering the "Dynamite Kid” (02:00), a low point for ‘Raw’ (12:30), Cody Rhodes and All Elite Wrestling (16:00), a great week for promos (25:15), and more. Host: David Shoemaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brock Lesnar outlasting Daniel Bryan (02:00), Charlotte Flair’s violent explosion on Ronda Rousey (11:15), the NXT roster puts on another epic ‘TakeOver’ (21:45), and the rest of an impressive ‘Survivor Series’ night (43:45). Host: David Shoemaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How Becky Lynch’s injury has shaken up the “Thanksgiving tradition” (02:00), classic ‘Survivor Series’ Twitter mailbag questions (13:00), and predictions for this weekend’s events (31:00). Host: David Shoemaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Twitter Mailbag and ‘Crown Jewel’ Fallout | The Masked Man Show (Ep. 137) Standout moments (good and bad) from ‘Crown Jewel’ are discussed (02:00) plus Twitter mailbag questions about Robbinsdale High School vs. West Texas State alumni, the ‘WrestleMania 35’ main event, and more (48:00). Host: David Shoemaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and comedian Dan St. Germain of the 'Total F'n Marks’ podcast get together to talk about the ‘Crown Jewel’ conundrum (01:00), John Cena and Daniel Bryan’s absence from the card (07:00), and the addition of Hulk Hogan (18:00), before running through their predictions (20:30). Then, they wrap up the show with their thoughts on the entire ‘Evolution’ PPV (42:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and comedian Dan St. Germain of the 'Total F'n Marks’ podcast sit down to discuss Roman Reigns relinquishing the Universal title due to his battle with leukemia (01:30), a strong heel turn by Dean Ambrose (20:00), the ongoing speculation on the state of ‘Crown Jewel’ (28:30), then give their predictions for this Sunday’s ‘Evolution’ PPV (39:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker is joined by NWA owner Billy Corgan to discuss his experiences in wrestling compared to his Smashing Pumpkins career (02:00), the future of indie promotions (15:00), and the NWA’s 70th-anniversary show this Sunday (20:00). Then writer Kenny Herzog tags in to look at the WWE’s ‘Crown Jewel’ conundrum in Saudi Arabia (30:45), misguided booking for ‘Evolution’ (45:45), the 1,000th episode of ‘SmackDown Live’ (55:30), and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and comedian Dan St. Germain of the 'Total F'n Marks’ podcast discuss the return of Shawn Michaels (01:30), the similarities and differences between the WWE and the UFC (26:15), ‘Super Show-Down’ results and takeaways (36:45), and then look ahead to upcoming events (42:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and comedian Dan St. Germain of the 'Total F'n Marks' podcast celebrate Elias enraging the Seattle crowd (03:00) before running down this Sunday's 'Super Show-Down' card (08:00). Then comic book writer Aubrey Sitterson joins the show to discuss 'The Comic Book Story of Professional Wrestling' (26:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and comedian Dan St. Germain of the 'Total F'n Marks podcast sit down and discuss Liv Morgan's injury (02:00), the 'Raw' viewer ratings dropping (12:15), the report of WWE employee Kevin Dunn selling $10M worth of company stock (30:00), and Samoa Joe visiting A.J. Styles's home on 'SmackDown Live' (34:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and comedian Dan St. Germain of the 'Total F'n Marks Podcast' jump right into 'Hell In a Cell' to discuss Brock Lesnar's shocking appearance in the main event between Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman (01:30), Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch's fantastic match (19:00), the horror movie of a match between Randy Orton and Jeff Hardy (23:45), Dave Meltzer's controversial tweet regarding "glorified house shows" (35:30), and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with comedian Dan St. Germain of the 'Total F'n Marks Podcast' to break down the main-event matchup between Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman (02:00) before running through the rest of the card for this Sunday's 'Hell in a Cell' PPV (23:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and "The King of Sad Style" Dan St. Germain recap a historic weekend of wrestling including Dan's experience at the Starrcast fan convention before going through 'All In' (21:00), a confusing night on 'Raw' (33:00), and the return of the Shawn Michaels–Undertaker feud (42:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and "The King of Sad Style" Dan St. Germain sit down to look at this weekend's 'All In' card (02:00), Braun Strowman and Roman Reigns teaming up on a weird 'Raw' (18:30), and Becky Lynch's feud with Charlotte Flair on 'SmackDown Live!' (24:30). Then they wrap up with some Twitter questions (46:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and "The King of Sad Style" Dan St. Germain team up to gush over Roman Reigns and the Shield reunion (03:00). Then Dan shares a story of his "boyhood dream" turning into a nightmare (21:30) before running through the rest of an action-packed four nights of wrestling (32:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and "The King of Sad Style" Dan St. Germain sit down to pay their respects to Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart (03:00) before discussing the return of "the Lunatic Fringe" Dean Ambrose to 'Raw' (15:15). Then they give their predictions on the entire card of Sunday's 'SummerSlam' (23:45). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker joins forces with "The King of Sad Style" Dan St. Germain to celebrate the NXT debut of Keith Lee (03:00), before taking a look at how 'SummerSlam' is shaping up (21:30), Ronday Rousey's first win on 'Raw' (31:00), and an emotional Paul Heyman (47:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with "The King of Sad Style" Dan St. Germain to discuss the passings of Nikolai Volkoff (02:30), "Grandmaster Sexay" Brian Christopher (08:15), and Brickhouse Brown (15:45) before jumping into Brock Lesnar and what Shoemaker called "the most important thing in modern professional wrestling history" (21:30) and the latest happenings on 'Raw' and 'SmackDown' (41:00). Hosted by: David Shoemaker Today's Guest: Dan St. Germain Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker sits down with Dan Black of the 'Comedians of Wrestling' podcast to discuss the announcement of 'Evolution,' the first all-women pay-per-view (03:30) before talking about the reinstatement of Hulk Hogan into the WWE Hall of Fame (14:15) and looking at how the 'SummerSlam' card is shaping up so far (24:15). Hosted by: David Shoemaker Today's Guest: Dan Black Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling discuss Brock Lesnar's scuffle at UFC 226 (03:00) before making a big announcement (23:30) and wrapping up the show with their 'Extreme Rules' predictions (35:30). Hosted by: David Shoemaker and Dave Schilling Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Open Mike Eagle team up to discuss the bizarre Universal Championship picture (04:00), Kane returning to Daniel Bryan's side (14:00), Shinsuke Nakamura being attacked by a police dog (23:45), Bayley turning on Sasha Banks (34:45), and more! Hosted by: David Shoemaker Guest: Open Mike Eagle Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling to pay tribute to the late, great Big Van Vader (01:30), before diving into the news of Big Cass's release from WWE (10:00), the results from 'Money in the Bank' (22:30), Ronda Rousey continuing to impress (29:15), and the fantastic resetting of 'Raw' and 'SmackDown Live' (32:15). Hosted by: David Shoemaker and Dave Schilling Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling get together to debate CM Punk's future following his second loss in the UFC (02:30), before running through their predictions for this Sunday's 'Money in the Bank' PPV (14:00) and the odds for the two "ladder matches" (35:00). They wrap up the show with a review of NJPW's 'Dominion' (48:00). Hosted by: David Shoemaker and Dave Schilling Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling celebrate Ahmed Johnson’s birthday by watching a highlight reel of his (01:45) before discussing CM Punk and Colt Cabana’s trial (19:00), what a return would mean for Shawn Michaels's legacy (30:30), the "Constable of 'Raw'" (39:00), the AJ Styles–Shinsuke Nakamura contract signing (53:30), and more. Hosted by: David Shoemaker and Dave Schilling Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling discuss possible WWE Twitter burner accounts (02:00), Sasha Banks winning the disappointing gauntlet match (10:15), the alleged leaked "writer's in-ring promo checklist" (13:15), Bobby Roode cheering on Braun Strowman (22:15), the angle between Sami Zayn and Bobby Lashley (29:00), and the latest on the WWE's deal with Fox (53:00). Hosted by: David Shoemaker and Dave Schilling Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling sit down to discuss John Cena's heartfelt appearance on 'Today' (02:00), how the massive television deal between WWE and Fox could change the landscape of sports entertainment (09:30), the latest happenings on 'Raw' and 'SmackDown Live!' (34:00), and even more! Hosted by: David Shoemaker and Dave Schilling Produced by: Jim Cunningham Brought to you by: The Ringer Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and "The Silverlake Heartthrob" Steve Kazee team up to break down Nia Jax challenging Ronda Rousey (02:30), the rumors surrounding Big Cass's backstage heat at 'SmackDown Live' (12:30), the ladder matches at 'Money in the Bank' (28:00), and what the stipulation for AJ Styles's match with Nakamura will be (36:45). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling and "The Silver Lake Heartthrob" Steve Kazee to look at what the WWE needs to do with Roman Reigns (03:00) before running through the 'Backlash' results (16:30) and how 'Money In the Back' is shaping up (33:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons to break down 'The Greatest Royal Rumble' (01:45), the surprisingly enjoyable Roman Reigns title chase (07:45), booking Braun Strowman (15:00), missing managers (24:00), the future of WWE television (37:00), the Hall of Fame (44:00), and the card for 'Backlash' (51:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling and Dan Black of 'The Comedians of Wrestling' to look ahead at this Friday's 'Greatest Royal Rumble' PPV (01:30). They discuss the women of the WWE not working the show (04:00), the first-ever 50-man 'Royal Rumble' match (11:15), Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns in a steel-cage match for the Universal title (30:45), the Undertaker taking on Rusev in a casket match (38:00), John Cena facing Triple H (40:30), and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling discuss the passing of WWE legend Bruno Sammartino (01:45), Chris Jericho replacing Rusev in his match against the Undertaker at 'The Greatest Royal Rumble' (09:15), and the end of John Cena and Nikki Bella's relationship (12:00). Then they dive into the Superstar Shakeup (15:00), Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn joining 'Raw' (20:00), Ronda Rousey's next foe (31:30), the Shawn Michaels–Kevin Nash Reboot (40:15), the biggest additions to 'SmackDown Live!' (43:30), and the Bullet Club (54:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling and "Mr. Pitch Perfect" Skylar Astin to break down all of the action from the last week in wrestling including Roman Reigns's stunning loss to Brock Lesnar (03:00), Ronda Rousey's surprising performance (17:15), a turn for Shinsuke Nakamura against A.J. Styles (24:15), and John Cena getting his match with the Undertaker (29:00). Then they discuss 'NXT TakeOver: New Orleans' (54:00), the new additions to the WWE main roster (01:01:30), and wrap up the show with Daniel Bryan's return to the ring (01:15:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling join forces with Nick Mundy from 'The Team Tiger Awesome Show' to discuss which 'NXT Takeover: New Orleans' match they are looking forward to most (07:25) before jumping into 'WrestleMania' questions on Braun Strowman's partner (13:00), who needs the Intercontinental Championship the most (29:30), what to expect from the Charlotte Flair match with Asuka (33:30), whether Ronda Rousey will bet booed (38:00), will anyone turn heel in Daniel Bryan's return (43:00), if A.J. Styles taking on Shinsuke Nakamura will be the fight of the night (49:00), the fallout after Brock Lesnar–Roman Reigns (52:00), whether Undertaker will wrestle John Cena (01:06:30), and more. You can find the official Ringer merch store here: http://bit.ly/ringershop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling are joined by comedian Mike Lawrence to break down the lack of story line between the Undertaker and John Cena (03:00), why Daniel Bryan may be the last true underdog (10:30), Shane McMahon's vacation debacle (20:00), and Triple H and Stephanie McMahon's 'WrestleMania' preparation (23:00). Then, they discuss why Ronda Rousey's skills seems to be trending backward (32:00) before reading a passage of fan fiction about Stephanie McMahon (51:00) and running through the card for 'WrestleMania 34' (01:02:15). You can find the official Ringer merch store here: http://bit.ly/ringershop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling rejoice over Daniel Bryan's clearance to wrestle again (01:45) and ponder what his role will be at 'WrestleMania' and beyond (18:15). Then they discuss Braun Strowman's potential tag team partner (32:30), and the Ultimate Deletion match (48:15). They wrap up by guessing how long the WWE has been planning Daniel Bryan's return and giving their ideal scenario for his comeback match (01:01:00). Read David Shoemaker's article on Daniel Bryan's return here: https://t.co/SVoAkAMVrP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and comedian Dan St. Germain of 'Total F'n Marks' get together for a "loser leaves town" podcast where they cover the biggest takeaways from 'Fastlane' (01:30), the beatdown Shane McMahon received from Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens (09:30), and Ronda Rousey's upcoming debut (13:00) before looking ahead to the matches booked for 'WrestleMania' (29:00). Read Kenny Herzog's article on the Xavier Woods bump here: https://t.co/vvK73rNOyZ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling are joined by writer Mike Piellucci to discuss Cody Rhodes's WWE departure (01:45), his future in the wrestling business (14:00), and Dusty Rhodes's passing (19:15). Then comedian Dan St. Germain of the podcast 'Total F'n Marks' calls in to discuss the Riott Squad's role at 'Fastlane' (30:15) and the Six-Pack Challenge Match (37:00). They wrap up the show by talking about the process that young wrestlers go through to become WWE superstars (42:30) and give their predictions for this Sunday's pay-per-view (55:15). Read Mike Piellucci's piece on Cody Rhodes here: https://t.co/gz6B4ih172 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker is joined by Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling and actor "Stone Cold" Skylar Astin to look ahead to Roman Reigns facing Brock Lesnar at 'WrestleMania 34' (02:00) and break down John Cena's promo on 'Raw Talk' (07:00). Then they discuss the Women's Elimination Chamber match (22:30), the need for new factions in the WWE (27:00), how to repair "Broken" Matt Hardy (33:00), Braun Strowman's frustrating loss at 'Elimination Chamber' (38:00), and what to do with Ronda Rousey (43:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer’s David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report’s Dave Schilling sit down to catch up on the latest in wrestling news (01:30), compare ‘205 Live’ and ‘SmackDown’ (06:40), and preview ‘Elimination Chamber’ (30:36). Then, they give their official picks for who will be the main event at ‘WrestleMania’ (53:54). More on Elimination Chamber Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling are joined by Trey Kerby of 'The Starters' to compare this year's NBA All-Stars to their WWE superstar equivalent, including Kevin Owens (07:00), Braun Strowman (09:00), Roman Reigns (16:30), A.J. Styles (22:00), Seth Rollins (29:30), Shinsuke Nakamura (34:30), and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling celebrate their 100th episode by discussing Shane McMahon's promo regarding Daniel Bryan's injury (02:45) and what it means for 'WrestleMania' (06:30), the Miz's new contract (12:45), which wrestlers deserve a reality show (18:00), Booker T wanting to fight Corey Graves (23:15), Dave Meltzer reporting that John Cena isn't happy with booking (29:30), possible 'Elimination Chamber' main event scenarios (31:30), fantasy booking for Braun Strowman and Seth Rollins (40:30), the Liv Morgan experiment (56:30), and a trip down memory lane (01:06:45). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling sit down with hip-hop artist Open Mike Eagle to discuss 'NXT TakeOver: Philadelphia' (05:00), the debut of Drake Maverick (14:00), the Women's Royal Rumble match (17:30), the WWE's plans for Ronda Rousey (25:15), the Men's Royal Rumble match (30:00), Jonathan Coachman's return (44:00), the new graphics on 'SmackDown' (53:30), and Kenny Omega's loss (01:00:15). Then Dan St. Germain of the 'Total F'N Marks' podcast calls in to discuss his favorite moments from the 'Rumble' (01:02:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker teams up with Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling to break down the 25th anniversary of 'Raw' (01:00), complaints from the people in each venue (04:30), the Undertaker's vague promo (10:00), the DX reunion (12:45), Vince McMahon and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin's segment (18:00), the glaring misuse of Bruce Prichard (23:30), and the Miz defeating Roman Reigns for the IC title (27:00). Then, they analyze some 'Royal Rumble' gambling odds (34:15) before giving their predictions (49:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker is joined by Bleacher Report's Dave Schilling and actor Skylar Astin to discuss Paige's injury (05:15), the WWE's newest talent acquisitions (09:30), Bobby Roode's U.S. Championship Tournament win (18:30), rumors for the Royal Rumble (22:00), Braun Strowman flipping over a semi (27:45), and WWE's Top 10 Moments in 'Raw' History (33:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker is joined by Nick Mundy from 'The Team Tiger Awesome Show' to discuss Jason Jordan's importance to Roman Reigns (01:30), concerns about 'WrestleMania' (07:00), and the return of the Bálor/Bullet Club and the Miz (12:00). Then Bruce Prichard of 'Something to Wrestle With Bruce Prichard' joins the show to talk about his return to the WWE for the 25th anniversary of 'Raw' (16:30), the method to planning the madness that is a 'Royal Rumble' (23:30), his favorite recurring "spots" from the 'Rumble' (35:30), the biggest screw up that no one noticed during a 'Royal Rumble' (39:45), and turning Hulk Hogan heel (44:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer's David Shoemaker and Bleacher Report's David Schilling ring in 2018 by remembering Mt. Fiji from GLOW (03:00) before discussing Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho's match at 'Wrestle Kingdom 12' (12:15), Finn Bálor and the problem with babyface stables (24:30), the feud between Asuka and Alexa Bliss on 'Raw' (31:30), and "Psychic Shoemaker" (41:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices