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Ep. 64: A Bizarre Night in the NBA

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss a weird evening in the NBA (0:55), Kevin's Isaiah Thomas interview (12:45), and whether or not acquiring Carmelo Anthony could put the Celtics above the Cavs (29:36). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 24, 201742 min

Ep. 63: One-on-One With Isaiah Thomas

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The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor is joined by Celtics guard Isaiah Thomas to discuss about his stellar 2016 (00:24), improving his step-back jumper (02:47), his thoughts during the draft (10:35), and what he learned from Kevin Garnett (15:28). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 23, 201722 min

Ep. 62: The Thunder-Warriors "Rivalry," Embiid's Antics, and Shea Serrano Loses a Game to His Son

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Shea Serrano discuss Russell Westbrook's stare during warm-ups (2:40), Zaza Pachulia's flagrant foul (4:55), the surging 76ers (11:19), five non-obvious guys whom Shea loves (15:10), and the 'White Men Can't Jump' reboot (29:45). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 19, 201744 min

Ep. 61: LeBron's Acting, Melo Trade Talk, and All-Star Ballots

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss the Warriors' drubbing of the Cavs (5:00), LeBron's flopping (8:00), Melo's trade options (12:00), the improving Wizards (19:00), Buddy Hield's defense (25:00), All-Star ballots (28:00), Wade-Melo legacy picks (35:00), and League Pass problems (40:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 17, 201744 min

Ep. 60: Adrian Wojnarowski

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by The Vertical's Adrian Wojnarowski to discuss Mark Cuban's relationship with NBA referees (5:00), D-Rose's absence (16:00), potential trades on the horizon (24:00), LeBron's Eastern Conference dominance (32:00), Ice Cube's 3-on-3 basketball league (38:00), Adam Silver's open-door policy (42:00), and the origin of the "Woj Bomb" (46:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 13, 20171h 0m

Ep. 59: Knicks' Nonsense and Midseason NBA Hipster Squads With Jason Concepcion

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Jason Concepcion discuss the Knicks' demoralizing loss in Philly (5:00), Carmelo Anthony's no-trade clause (12:00), Ron Baker's children's book (16:00), Mason Plumlee's triple-double pursuit (23:00), Bucks vs. T'Wolves for the hipster belt (34:00), Giannis Antetokounmpo's stardom (39:00), Joel Embiid's rookie season (42:00), and Chandler Parsons's virgin status (45:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 12, 201751 min

Ep. 58: One-on-One With Joel Embiid

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The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor is joined by Sixers forward and Rookie of the Year candidate Joel Embiid to discuss his nickname, the return of the big man in basketball, his desire to play point guard, and his strong social media presence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 10, 201712 min

Ep. 57: D-Rose's Absence, the Knicks' Next Move, and McCollum Trade Talk With Kevin O'Connor

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss MIA Derrick Rose (5:00), what's next for the Knicks (15:00), moving Paul Millsap (23:00), C.J. McCollum trade talk (28:00), Joel Embiid at point guard (36:00), and Steph Curry's cameo on 'Family Guy' (42:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 10, 201742 min

Ep. 56: The Kyle Korver Trade, the MVP Race, and All-Star Voting With Tim Bontemps

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The Ringer’s Chris Vernon is joined by Tim Bontemps of The Washington Post to discuss the huge trade that brought Kyle Korver to the Cavs (0:50) and possible other moves before the deadline (4:15). They also discuss the MVP race (19:45) and voting for the All-Star Game (27:20). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 6, 201743 min

Ep. 55: Jimmy Goldstein

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by NBA superfan James Goldstein to discuss pioneering NBA fandom (3:00), growing up a Milwaukee Hawks fan (6:00), Goldstein's rivalry with Kobe (10:00), his love for Dominique Wilkins (13:00), Clippers fandom (16:00), Durant signing with the Warriors (20:00), potential NBA rules changes (24:00), the history of the Lakers (31:00), almost buying the Bucks (39:00), hosting Rihanna's birthday party (42:00), and the Ray Allen shot in 2013 (45:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 6, 201750 min

Ep. 54: Houston Experiment, Potential Trades, and Harden vs. Westbrook

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss the Rockets' rise in the Western Conference (5:00), Eric Gordon's all-star candidacy (12:00), potential teams to challenge the Cavs and Warriors (19:00), superstar trade scenarios (26:00), the glut of good point guards (31:00), the MVP race between James Harden and Russell Westbrook (38:00), and coaches on the chopping block heading into 2017 (44:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 3, 201751 min

Ep. 53: Corey Brewer

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by Houston Rockets forward Corey Brewer to discuss his transition from back-to-back national championships to bottom of the NBA (4:00), running "the octagon" with the Timberwolves (8:00), returning to Minnesota (12:00), the Rockets' hangover last season (17:00), advice for his younger NBA self (25:00), the best trash talkers in basketball (30:30), Kawhi Leonard's potential with the Spurs (34:00), and his farming abilities at home (38:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 23, 201639 min

Ep. 52: NBA Christmas Wish List With Kevin O'Connor

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss Blake Griffin's durability and decreasing dunk numbers (6:00), Nerlens Noel vs. Jahlil Okafor (15:00), and Cheick Diallo's surprising rookie season (23:00). Then, Chris and Kevin draft their top-five Christmas wishes for the rest of the NBA season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 20, 201652 min

Ep. 51: Ringing in the New CBA With Tim Bontemps

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by The Washington Post's Tim Bontemps to discuss who gets credit for the new CBA (5:00), the details on designated veteran player contracts (12:00), the new max contract (19:00), the addition of two extra roster spots (30:00), the unchanged one-and-done rule (39:00), and Chris Paul and LeBron's final max contracts (42:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 15, 20161h 41m

Ep. 50: The Morey Effect, First-Time All-Stars, and the Warriors' Weakness

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss the foundation of footwork (6:00), the Daryl Morey effect on offense (10:00), James Harden's greatest skill (20:00), potential first-time All-Stars (25:00), Grizzlies-Warriors (35:00), and the highest-scoring game in NBA history (44:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 13, 201654 min

Ep. 49: The Warriors in L.A., the Separation in the East, and the Water Bottle Challenge at MSG

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by Trey Kerby of NBA TV to discuss Wednesday night's Warriors-Clippers game (3:13), the Cavs humiliating the Knicks (13:58), Tom Thibodeau's struggles in Minnesota (28:58), and the success of 'The Starters' (34:48). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 8, 201644 min

Ep. 48: Quarterly Awards With Kevin O'Connor

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor celebrate the first quarter of the NBA season by handing out awards, including MVP (17:00), then they talk Joel Embiid's Rookie of the Year bid (25:00), Gregg Popovich vs. Quin Snyder for Coach of the Year (28:00), the plethora of Most Improved options (34:00), and whether anyone can top Klay Thompson's 60-point explosion (40:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 6, 201645 min

Ep. 47: The MVP Rat Race, Clippers-Nets, and Conley's Injury With Chris Mannix

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Yahoo Sports senior NBA writer Chris Mannix discuss the state of the MVP race (5:00), Sean Kilpatrick's breakout game (12:00), the Clippers-Nets fiasco (16:00), the Celtics' struggling defense (24:00), the impressive Pistons backcourt (28:00), and the best plan for the Grizzlies post-Mike Conley injury (32:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 1, 201650 min

Ep. 46: Conference Playoff Outlook, and Three Guys Better Than Their Stats Suggest

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss Russell Westbrook's triple-double standard (5:00), decide which teams are out of the playoff picture in each conference (15:00), pick three guys who are better than their stats suggest (22:30), and break down Kevin Love vs. Klay Thompson(38:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 29, 201651 min

Ep. 45: The Greek Freak, Tanking Strategies, and CBA Changes With Kevin O'Connor

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss Giannis Antetokounmpo's historic statistical feat (6:00), tanking advice for the Kings (14:00), Mark Cuban vs. Chandler Parsons (19:00), Kawhi Leonard's improved shooting (31:00), Evan Turner's poor start in Portland (40:00), and the expected changes in the upcoming CBA (44:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 22, 201654 min

Ep. 44: Clippers-Grizz, Klay Thompson Trades, and Phil Jackson's LeBron Comment With Sam Amick

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by USA Today's Sam Amick to discuss Marc Gasol's Conor McGregor dance (6:00), the Clippers' "strength in numbers" model (12:00), Klay Thompson's numbers returning to normal (16:00), the D.C. catastrophe (20:00), the impact of a Boogie trade on Kings fans (28:00), and Phil Jackson's "posse" comment (37:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 17, 201648 min

Ep. 43: Leaguewide Look With Kevin O'Connor

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor discuss overarching themes and intriguing developments 10 games into the season, including the Clippers' bench play (5:00), the issue with high-usage players (12:00), Luke Walton's Lakers (18:00), Willie Cauley-Stein's trade value (22:00), Malcolm Brogdon's impressive rookie season (33:00), DeMar DeRozan's improved scoring (38:00), and the Timberwolves' surprisingly good offense (42:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 15, 201647 min

Ep. 42: Contenders and Panic-Button Teams With Tim Bontemps

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon welcomes Tim Bontemps of The Washington Post to discuss Stan Van Gundy's rant, God Shammgod's influence on Harrison Barnes (4:42), the toughest competition for the Warriors in the West (11:40), and five teams that need to worry (25:14). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 10, 201650 min

Ep. 41: 17 Years in the League With Mike Miller

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by the Denver Nuggets' Mike Miller to discuss what it's like to be a veteran on a young team, joining LeBron James and the Heat (7:50), his days as a Cav (17:05), and his future in basketball (28:15). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 8, 201629 min

Ep. 40: KD vs. Westbrook

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Chris Vernon welcomes Shea Serrano to discuss tonight's meeting between the Warriors and the Thunder, bench celebrations (31:10), and Shea's experience going away to college (35:20). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 3, 201639 min

Ep. 39: 'Sources Say' With Michael D. Ratner

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Juliet Litman welcomes Michael D. Ratner to the show to discuss his new mockumentary series 'The 5th Quarter’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ch7TuWRbo). Then they speak with a few stars from the show — the Lakers’ Metta World Peace (5:54), Courtney Lee of the Knicks (22:46), and the Grizzlies’ Chandler Parsons (32:28) — to talk about their experiences in front of the camera. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 2, 201639 min

Ep. 38: Who's Got Staying Power? With Zach Harper

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon brings on NBA writer Zach Harper to run through the early-season story lines and determine if Russell Westbrook's ridiculous tear will continue (6:00), if Anthony Davis can continue to score 50-plus and still lose (15:00), if the Sixers are better than the Magic (20:00), if the Bulls are for real (25:00), if the Warriors are taking a step back (35:00), and if Kawhi Leonard can become a top-three player in the Association (40:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 1, 201644 min

Ep. 37: One-Game Overreactions With Jonathan Tjarks

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Chris Vernon and Jonathan Tjarks discuss the Warriors loss, the weird Grizzlies win over the Timberwolves (8:52), monster numbers from Anthony Davis (25:32), and the Lakers' new life without Kobe (35:35). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 27, 201642 min

Ep. 36: 'Thirty Things to See' Season Tipoff With Kevin O'Connor

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor celebrate the kickoff of the NBA season by selecting their top storyline for all thirty teams. Topics include: the Warriors' dominance (4:00), Doc Rivers's need for creativity (6:00), Boogie's ideal coach (10:00), What is Harrison Barnes? (13:00), Anthony Davis's eliteness (19:30), Emmanuel Mudiay's leap (22:00), Oladipo's scoring ability (26:00), How good is Dante Exum? (30:00), Danny Ainge's many assets (33:00), Sixers potential with Embiid and Saric (37:00), LeBron as an underdog (44:00), Drummond's defensive struggles (46:00), Kemba Walker's shooting clip (51:00), Winslow's opportunity in Miami (54:00), and Brad Beal’s massive contract (57:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 25, 201658 min

Ep. 35: The Genesis of PER and the Grizzlies' Untapped Potential With John Hollinger

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by former ESPN analytics guru and current Memphis Grizzlies vice president of basketball operations John Hollinger to discuss developing his formula for PER (8:00), working for a franchise vs. covering a franchise (21:00), the importance of making smart personnel decisions (30:00), and the upside of the Grizzlies this season (38:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 20, 201650 min

Ep. 34: Basketball Analytics and the Revamped Rockets With Daryl Morey

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey to discuss the growth of analytics in sports (6:00), handling criticism of team chemistry (14:00), his beef with Charles Barkley (18:00), the additions of Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson (26:00), and potential NBA rule changes to increase pace of play (30:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 18, 201632 min

Ep. 33: NBA Hipster Team Championship Belt and Five Players to Watch With Jason Concepcion

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon and Jason Concepcion discuss why the Timberwolves are the top hipster team this season (6:00), Chandler Parsons's Instagram (11:00), the longest-tenured players on one franchise (15:00), the promising Bucks (22:00), Devin Booker's trash talk (26:00), Boogie's playoff chances (36:00), Embiid's media availability (40:00), and Dwight Howard's smile (44:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 13, 201654 min

Ep. 32: Covering Superteams and Positive CBA Talks With Tim Bontemps

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon brings on Washington Post national NBA writer Tim Bontemps to discuss the new-look Warriors (6:00), Steph Curry taking a backseat to Kevin Durant (12:00), who's the second-best team in the West (18:00), the NBA's need to avoid work stoppage (23:00), why the Knicks will be horrible this season (30:55), the health of the Grizzlies (36:00), and the best League Pass team this season (40:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 11, 201642 min

Ep. 31: The Process of Signing Superstars With Sonny Vaccaro

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon is joined by the godfather of grassroots basketball and former sports marketing executive for Nike and Adidas, Sonny Vaccaro, to discuss betting his job with Nike on signing Michael Jordan (6:00), the first time Kobe showed his true skill (10:00), T-Mac's unknownness (14:00), Adidas missing out on LeBron (17:30), Under Armour's luck with Curry (28:00), Dwight Howard vs. Al Horford (36:00), and the Knicks' playoff potential (41:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 6, 201640 min

Ep. 30: Ben Simmons's Injury and Bold Preseason Predictions With Chris Vernon and Kevin O'Connor

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The Ringer's Chris Vernon makes his hosting debut with help from Kevin O'Connor to discuss Ben Simmons's injury (8:25) and the "buzzard's luck" of the Sixers. Then, the duo play a game of 'Three Things We Feel Alone in Feeling' (15:35) and make bold declarations about the upcoming NBA season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 4, 201636 min

Ep. 29: Fireside NBA Chatter With Bill Simmons and Brad Stevens

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HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by the head coach of the Boston Celtics, "The President" Brad Stevens, to discuss coaching in the NBA vs. college (5:00), Brandan Wright's time with the Celtics (16:50), Marcus Smart's career arc (22:00), success against the Warriors (29:30), the efforts to recruit Kevin Durant and Al Horford in free agency (34:00), potential NBA rule changes (41:00), picking the brains of Popovich and Belichick (52:20), and the 3-point shot's impact on positionless basketball. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 20, 20161h 6m

Ep. 28: Olympics Knockout Round With Tate Frazier and Jonathan Tjarks

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The Ringer's Tate Frazier and Jonathan Tjarks discuss the upcoming Olympic basketball knockout round, the expectations for Team USA, which team is the biggest dark horse, the standout stars from Rio, and Coach K's final farewell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 16, 201645 min

Ep. 27: 'Sources Say' With Chris Ryan and Juliet Litman

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The Ringer's Chris Ryan and Juliet Litman discuss Team USA's eventful summer in Rio and LeBron's back-to-back European travel schedule. Then, Tate Frazier joins to lament Kyrie Irving's inability to lose lately. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 12, 201636 min

Ep. 26: Kobe Stories, TV Shows, Building a Superteam, and More With Roy Hibbert and Tate Frazier

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The Ringer’s Tate Frazier and Roy Hibbert discuss the two-time NBA All-Star’s low-key offseason, his favorite Kobe Bryant farewell tour tales, the superteam Hibbert would construct to defeat the Warriors, and his favorite television shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 3, 201628 min

Ep. 25: Russell Westbrook's Future and the 'Miami Vice' 10-Year Anniversary With Bill Simmons

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HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Ringer executive editor Chris Ryan drop a special double-feature edition of the 'Ringer NBA Show' to discuss Russell Westbrook's options in Oklahoma City, potential trade suitors, and the best basketball fit moving forward. Then Bill and Chris pay homage to Michael Mann's 'Miami Vice' by reviewing the film's impact 10 years after its release. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 27, 201643 min

Ep. 24: Team USA and U18 NBA Prospects With Tate Frazier and Jonathan Tjarks

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The Ringer's Tate Frazier and Jonathan Tjarks discuss Team USA, Coach K's farewell tour, the 2016 FIBA Americas U18 Championship, and the promising prospects of the 2018 NBA draft. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 25, 201635 min

Ep. 23: 'Sources Say' With Juliet Litman and Chris Ryan

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The Ringer's Juliet Litman and Chris Ryan discuss the last remaining NBA free agents and where they could end up (1:00). Then Juliet gives her Cavs report, including Channing Frye's height and how Kyrie Irving's always ready for the party (7:00). Finally they talk about Team USA, including which players they'd enjoy hanging out with (15:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 20, 201629 min

Ep. 22: NBA Free Agency Roundup With Bill Simmons

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HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons moonlights on today's 'Ringer NBA Show' with Ringer executive editor Chris Ryan, with each giving his hometown perspective on the Celtics and Sixers, respectively. Then they offer some broad perspective on the status of the league, including where Russell Westbrook might end up, how to make the NBA season last 12 months, and predictions for the new-look Knicks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 15, 201645 min

Ep. 21: NBA Summer League Special With Tate Frazier and Jonathan Tjarks

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The Ringer's Tate Frazier and Jonathan Tjarks recap the opening weekend of NBA summer league in Las Vegas, and discuss Brandon Ingram–Ben Simmons, Thon Maker's debut, the rise of Guerschon Yabusele, and major takeaways moving forward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 11, 201629 min

Ep. 20: Kevin Durant to the Warriors and Team USA

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On this week's episode, Juliet Litman and Chris Ryan discuss Kevin Durant's move to the Warriors and how players may be feeling about the change. Later, they discuss why Steph Curry and Draymond Green are like Hamilton and Burr, and what it all means for the Thunder. Finally, the two give their predictions for next season's Eastern Conference playoffs and talk Team USA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 5, 201638 min

Ep. 19: 'Sources Say'

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On this week's episode of 'Sources Say,' Juliet Litman and Chris Ryan talk about why the Bucks could be back in business and offer their predictions on where players are headed. Later they talk about Iguodala's mistaken tweet and why they think Al Jefferson is getting overpaid. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 1, 201629 min

Ep. 18: 2016 NBA Draft Recap With Danny Chau and Jonathan Tjarks

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The Ringer's Danny Chau and Jonathan Tjarks discuss the Ibaka trade, the Celtics' future, and Thon Maker conspiracy theories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 25, 201630 min

Ep. 17: 2016 NBA Draft Top International Talents

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The Ringer's Danny Chau and Jonathan Tjarks on the international prospects projected to land in the lottery, like Dragan Bender and Timothe Luwawu, in Thursday night's draft, and on some sleepers, like Ante Zizic and Zhou Qi, who may wind up being selected later in the first round. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 22, 201653 min

Ep. 16: Game 7 Reaction

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The Ringer's Chris Ryan, Juliet Litman, and Tate Frazier discuss Game 7 of the NBA Finals, where the teams go from here, LeBron James's transcendent performance, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 20, 201631 min

Ep. 15: 2016 NBA Draft Lottery Picks and Late-First-Round Selections

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The Ringer's Danny Chau and Jonathan Tjarks on prospects slated to go in the top 10, and some prospects who may find themselves being selected later in the first round. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 17, 201631 min