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Windmills in a North Korean Cabbage Patch
Season 3 · Episode 3

Windmills in a North Korean Cabbage Patch

The Reason We’re All Still Here · Jeffrey Lewis

September 27, 202335m 59s

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Show Notes

An arms-control advocate accepts an invitation to the dacha of a hard-partying North Korean power broker. There, through a haze of smoke and propaganda, they identify some common ground and set out to test a hypothesis: That it’s possible for Americans and North Koreans to work together toward peace. The result is a tense but extraordinary moment in the relationship between North Korea and the West, a rare example of collaboration that has been almost entirely lost to history.

This episode features Peter Hayes and Lyuba Zarsky, co-founders of the Nautilus Institute for Security and Sustainability, and David von Hippel, an energy expert who worked with Peter in North Korea.

Topics

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