Genesis

In the first installment of The Quantum Leap Podcast, Albie and Heather discuss the pilot episodes of Quantum Leap “Genesis” parts 1 and 2. There’s first impressions, an episode recap, thoughts and opinions, and much more.

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Transcript

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Scott Bakula
This is Scott Bakula, and you’re listening to the Quantum Leap Podcast.

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Unknown
Greetings, Dr. Beckett. Welcome to the Quantum Leap Podcast here, rising to one good time travel within his own lifetime, Dr. Sam Beckett letting the lead group of scientists in the desert to develop a top secret project known as Quantum Leap pressure to prove his theories or lose funding. Dr. Beckett previously stepped into the project.

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Unknown
Accelerator and finished in the blink of a.

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Scott Bakula
Cosmic clock. I went from quantum physicist to Air Force test pilot, which could have been fun if I knew how to fly. Fortunately, I had help an observer from the project named Al. Unfortunately, Al’s a hologram, so all I can lend is moral support. Anyway, here I am, bouncing around in time, putting things right that once went wrong.

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Scott Bakula
A sort of time traveling Lone Ranger with Al as my Tonto and I don’t even need a mask.

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Albie
You are listening to the Quantum Leap Podcast. This is episode one.

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Unknown
Genesis is leaving. Nobody is leaving.

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Scott Bakula
You can’t leave. Will not ready. Telegram. Then everyone seemed to think it was 1956. And then I was an Air Force captain named Tom Stratton with a wife called Peg and one and two thirds children. Evidently, my best friend was the officer behind the wheel, the Captain Bridwell, who everyone simply called Bird duck. Right. It’s a kick in the butt.

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Heather
What’s up, man?

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Scott Bakula
Your part of a time travel experiment that went a little caca. I can’t fly. I’ll be your copilot. You’re a hologram. I’m also an astronaut. The hardest part about flying is taking off and landing the B-52. The first part of that for you. After that, you just fire a couple of rockets. Hang on to the second. I zoom, but I’m in a real identity crisis here.

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Scott Bakula
So, I mean, one minute I’m Tom Stratton, and the next time a ballplayer named Fox.

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Heather
I love you.

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Albie
Welcome to the Quantum Leap podcast. I’m Alby, and I’m Heather. And we’re going to be taking you through the entire series of Quantum Leap, the science fiction show that started in 1989 on NBC and ran five seasons. So it’s going to be quite a journey.

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Heather
I’m excited.

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Albie
What are your first impressions of the show?

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Heather
It’s definitely different concept. I really I really liked the pilot episode and I’m looking forward to watching the rest of the show and seeing how this plays out because it’s definitely a different concept and definitely a different type of show.

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Albie
I watched the show when it originally aired episode by episode, week by week, so I have seen it all before, but it’s been a long time. So I do remember certain things. I remember how it ended. I won’t spoil it for anybody. I have the perspective of seeing it all at least once before, and I’m sure I’ve seen a few episodes more than once, you know, repeats on the sci fi channel or whatever.

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Albie
I was 14, I want to say when it premiered, I was very impressionable at the time and I really fell in love with the show. The characters, and they were very real for me and I couldn’t wait to tune back in week after week. Heather How old were you when it premiered?

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Heather
I think I was like three or four months old.

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Albie
So did you watch it originally?

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Heather
Possibly. Probably not, but possibly.

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Albie
Do you remember any of it?

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Heather
Going to say.

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Albie
No. This is all brand new to you, right? Yeah. So for our listeners that are watching along with us, Heather will be right there with you seeing everything for the first time. Well, I guess we should start at the beginning with Genesis. Could you read us the episode recap? Heather.

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Heather
Sure. Season one Episode one, Genesis Part one and two Original Air Date March 26, 1989. Written by Donald Peebles Are you directed by David Hemmings? Alan Kallevig is driving along an isolated highway in the New Mexico desert. He stops his car to flirt with an attractive female standing at the side of the road and offers her a lift.

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Heather
The woman notes Distant blue flashes in the sky and remarks that this was the same location where the first atomic bomb was tested. Allah attempts to distract her attention until he is interrupted by Gucci, who frantically informed him that Sam has stepped into the accelerator and is leaping out, says Sam cannot do so as the project isn’t ready.

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Heather
He warns Gucci not to interfere with the process, as this could kill Sam and races back to the project, Sam awakens in the year 1956, suffering from total memory loss, He is confused to discover that his name is Tom and that he has a pregnant wife named Peg and Son named Mikey. He is further shocked by his reflection in the mirror, which he insists is not him.

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Heather
Sam begins to convince himself that he is dreaming and that as long as he goes along with the dream, he will soon wake up. Sam further discovers that his complete identity is Tom Stratton, an Air Force test pilot, and that his best friend is Captain Bird Dog Bodell, a cocky, womanizing pilot for Dell, pulls over to the side of the road to chat to an attractive young woman and brags about how he and Sam are the only pilots brave enough to fly the X-2.

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Heather
Sam tells Bodell he cannot fly, but Frodo thinks he is playing a gag and decides to go along with it. When they reach the Air Force base, Birdwell and the other pilots pretend that flying has affected their memory. Convincing staff, doctors Ernst and Berger to conduct a research project studying the matter, Al shows up as the meeting disperses.

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Heather
But Sam does not recognize him. Sam and Bourdeaux suit up into their pilot outfits and prepared to take off. Sam notices outstanding at the back of the plane and asks for if everyone on board is secure. Birdwell looks around but cannot see anybody. Bardell leaves Sam alone in the cockpit and Sam begins to panic, unable to steer the plane.

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Heather
The plane spins on its side and begins to descend. For Dale returns to the cockpit and resumes control. Sam insists he cannot fly, but Verdell is still convinced that he is joking. A third pilot, Tony, enters the X-2, which is lowered from the plane Sam and Bourdillon piloting. Tony intends to race the two up to mark three. However, before it is able to reach the desired speed.

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Heather
The X2 spins out of control and prepares to explode. Moments before the X-2 erupts into flames, Tony is able to eject and safely glide back to land. That evening the pilots and their spouses socialize at a local bar. Pegg notes that Sam is uncharacteristically quiet and is puzzled when he asks her to dance something Tom cannot do. Sam notices Al yet again, standing at the other side of the room.

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Heather
Sam asks Peggy if she can see him, but she is unable to. Sam realizes that Al must be the key to finding out who he really is and approaches him. He asks Al if he is dead and has been reincarnated as Tom Stratton. I cannot believe that Sam has no memory of who he is, though. When Al calls him Sam, he knows that that’s his real name, but nothing more.

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Heather
Al leaves the bar and walks outside, disappearing into thin air through an invisible door. Driving back home, Peggy is worried about Sam as he is behaving oddly. Sam tells her he is not Tom Stratton and that he is not a pilot, nor does he have any recollection of her or Mikey. Peggy becomes upset and Sam decides to reach his confession, pretending that in fact it is all a joke he is perpetrating.

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Heather
Peggy is relieved, but Sam remains unsure of what to do. Sam awakens in the middle of the night and recovers a portion of his memory. He recalls that he grew up on a farm in Oak Ridge, Indiana, with his parents and sister, Katy. He also remembers that his father died in 1974, but that being 1956, his dad must still be alive.

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Heather
Sam attempts to phone his family, but he cannot remember his last name, thus is unable to reach them. Mikey enters the room carrying a fishing rod and reminds Sam that they had a fishing trip planned for the day. Sam takes Mikey fishing and while leaving him to fish further upstream encounters Al again. Sam tries to touch Al, but his hands go through him.

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Heather
Al explains that he is a man in the present day, but it pierces Sam as a neurological hologram. Al also explains that Sam is part of a time travel experiment that went a little caca and that he has traded places in time with Tom Stratton. He says Ziggy attempted to retrieve Sam in the morning, but Sam was unreachable.

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Heather
In order for Sam to leap, everyone in this time zone must believe that he is Tom Stratton. Ziggy will next attempt to retrieve Sam on Tuesday. However, this is problematic for Sam as he is scheduled to fly the X-2 on Monday. Sam is enjoying a family barbecue with friends. He notices that Peg appears nauseous, but he insists that she is fine.

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Heather
Sam is called away and summoned to the Air Force base, where Dr. Ernst and Dr. Berger have designed a memory test questionnaire for Sam to take both before and after he flies to so they can gauge whether flying is affecting his memory. Ernst and Berger muse over whether their test will turn out to be a monumental discovery or a monumental joke.

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Heather
Sam is walking around the hangar at the Air Force base inspecting the x two. He is scheduled to fly on Monday. When Al appears. Al explains to Sam the strength theory of time travel, how the imaging chamber functions, and who precisely is controlling. Sam sleeps an unseen force, whether it be God or time or fate. Al also tells him that Tom Stratton was killed while attempting to fly the x two to mark three.

00;09;57;12 – 00;10;23;03
Heather
So all Sam has to do to leap is survive the flight. Despite Sam’s reservations, Alastair said that he was once a pilot and he will help guide him through the entire exercise. Sam begins to accept the plan. As Monday arrives, Sam returns to the Air Force base to submit his memory test. Doctors Ernst and Berger inspect the submission and find that it is filled with bizarre answers that suggest Sam is from the future.

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Heather
The two conclude that the entire memory loss theory was simply a joke all along. As Sam steps into the X2, he becomes nervous, as Al is nowhere to be seen. The x two is lowered from another plane and launched into the sky. Sam starts to panic and attempts to tell his operators that he cannot fly until Al shows up and instructs him on how to steer the X-2 as it starts to speed up beyond Mach one and Mach two.

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Heather
The x two begins experiencing turbulence. The warning light flares on the instrument panel informing Sam he has a fire. Al urgently tells Sam to eject. Moments later, the X-2 explodes in the sky and the debris crashes to the ground. The sound of the descent explosion shocks Peg, who is in the kitchen of her home, worried for her husband.

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Heather
Sam, however, managed to eject from the plane in time and float safely to earth with a parachute. An entire crew of Air Force paramedics rush out to collect him. Sam is frustrated that despite accomplishing his mission, he has still not leaped. Sam is taken to the hospital where he is told that Peg went into premature labor after hearing the X-2 explosion.

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Heather
The hospital doctors tell him that once labor begins, it cannot be stopped so that the baby will need to be delivered prematurely, even though it is unlikely to survive. Sam, remembering that he has medical knowledge from the future, knows this notion has been proven false and instructs them to administer an alcoholic solution intravenously to peg. The procedure works successfully.

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Heather
Peg is inebriated and the lever stops. Sam gives the thumbs up signal to Mikey and Bardo, assuring them that Peg and the baby are okay. Then suddenly he sleeps. Sam finds himself in 1968, having leaped into baseball player Tim Fox. His team is playing the final game of the season, and according to Al, they are destined to lose.

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Heather
Sam asks Al why he didn’t leap, but Allen’s a year still unsure. Sam now knows, however, that he is a medical doctor and tells him that actually Sam holds six doctorates. His specialty being in quantum physics. He reveals that Sam is the architect of the project and the only one who can figure out how to get himself home.

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Heather
Sam is despondent as he can’t even remember his own last name. Al tells him it is Beckett armed with this knowledge. Sam is able to phone his home in Oak Ridge, Indiana, and have a tearful conversation with his father, John Beckett. Sam now realizes that his ability to travel in time is a gift and ponders what greater things he might be able to accomplish in his travels.

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Heather
As Sam returns to the field to bat, the coach tells him it is his last game and he is badly hoping they will win. Sam is now determined to change history and win the game. Sam does not manage to hit the ball, though, due to unexpected fumbling and mishaps from the opposing team. Sam does manage to score on a dropped third strike and three throwing errors to win the game.

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Heather
His team cheers Sam as a hero and Sam leaps.

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Albie
Thank you, Heather, for that. It was a really long one, but it was a double episode, so that’s why it was so long, but very detailed. I like that. What are your thoughts on this episode? Genesis Parts one and two.

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Heather
I don’t really have any other episodes to compare to. It’s good so far. I’m looking forward to watching the rest of the show, so it is a good opener. But again, once I see more episodes, I’ll probably be able to rate it a little differently because I’ll know like what they’re capable of.

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Albie
One thing I was worried about was Does this show look dated to you since the nineties? Doesn’t look dated to me, but I was wondering if it looked dated to you.

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Heather
Yeah. You think the nineties was ten years ago? Yeah.

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Albie
My generation has that problem.

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Heather
I don’t think it looks dated. I think they did it so it wouldn’t necessarily have a time frame. I originally thought there was no date dates and, and it was not really made to look like it was a certain time period, but they mentioned that his dad died in 1974, which means that he had to have been born around 1970 at least.

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Heather
Like what? 1973? Yeah.

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Albie
1953.

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Heather
He was born?

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Albie
Yes. He shares the same birth date as Donald P Bellisario, the creator of the show. Except a flip a year instead of 35 to 53.

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Heather
Well, but see, the problem is, is then you take Sam’s age, so he’s at least for like 30 because he’s gone to college and gotten his bachelors, so he’s probably in his late thirties. So then you take that and you could probably figure out around what age he is. It’s probably like already in our past.

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Albie
Yes. I think that near future where this show takes place is about the 92. 93 time. 89. 92.

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Heather
Well, it wouldn’t be that.

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Albie
I’m just saying numbers now.

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Heather
And 23, 42, 86 .5.5. But yes, I think that it probably takes place in the new millennium. 2000. Probably. Because if you remember, it was like Y2K was a big, scary bad thing. And so but everyone thought that the twins was going to be different. And it’s definitely not in the year 2000. What was that? Oh, okay.

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Albie
The only thing for me that dates the show is the format, the full screen format versus the widescreen format. If it was made in widescreen, you know, for me, I’d look like it was made today pretty much.

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Heather
Oh, yeah. I mean, if you look at it from that standpoint, I was kind of just looking at it from I wasn’t looking at it from the production standpoint. I was kind of looking at it from the like when this story took place. But the old footage, I think, because I think now we wouldn’t use old footage either.

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Heather
The old footage of the planes.

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Albie
I don’t think the stock footage of the planes.

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Heather
Yeah.

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Albie
Yeah. I think they did that for budgetary reasons, probably. But back then, I don’t think you could tell on a 25 inch television.

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Heather
Oh, I’m.

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Albie
Sure. But now in high def, you know, 50, 60 and screen, it’s very obvious that it was not filmed at the same time.

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Heather
Oh, yeah. Well, and it was okay. Like my brain made it okay because they were in the 1950s and it made me feel like they were like real shots of the plane. I mean, obviously any of them would have been real shots of the plane. But I mean, like, it made me feel like I was actually in the 1950s era because if they had somehow videotaped that, it would look all spotty and blurry and like that.

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Albie
So like in the future, they found film from the past of what was happening and show you were showing it to us with the story, almost.

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Heather
Like trying to tell the story, which isn’t really what happened.

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Albie
But that’s little tricks that I tell my brain to make it okay when I see something so noticeable when I’m watching a show.

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Heather
Well, and I’m sure that in standard definition, it’s not that bad either. But when you watching it in the high definition in, you go for like high def clear picture to like shaky, blurry, spotty stock film. You’re like, oh.

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Albie
If you watch it on like your phone or an iPad or something, it’s not that bad.

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Heather
Oh, yeah, I’m sure.

00;17;56;16 – 00;18;09;03
Albie
But that’s what TVs were back then. And you only watch it once If you were lucky enough to have a VHS recorder back then, then you can watch it again. But the quality on that was even worse than the original broadcast. And, you know, you you wouldn’t see things like that.

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Heather
But at least it wasn’t like the original doctor. Who are they? Just kind of they were like, Yeah, we’ll just record over this one.

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Albie
Yeah, At least at least somebody saved it somewhere, which is great. I’m glad it was made on film. That way they could upgraded to high definition. So the opening two Genesis. Let’s start at the opening.

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Heather
Do you think the blue hue when they cut the first like scene that you see, do you think that is from the leap or do you think that that’s just like a futuristic thing? Do you just think that’s a futuristic thing or.

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Albie
Like the blue hue in the atmosphere?

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Heather
Yeah, because there’s like above the trees, it’s like light blue.

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Albie
I didn’t think anything of it when I saw it. I’m thinking back, maybe it see all the energy that it took to make Sam leap back in time. I’m not sure. I know they mentioned in the opening that during the New Mexico desert and it’s where the near the site where the first atomic bomb blast was. So I don’t know if that has something to do with the ability to time travel, maybe some radiation and and time and space or something.

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Albie
Yeah, there might be a reason why they did it there. I’m not sure. Later on, Al mentioned that Ziggy said one of the possibilities is to be at ground zero at a nuclear blast to get home. So possibly, I don’t know. Might be interesting to see if they bring that up again in future episodes.

00;19;30;24 – 00;19;37;07
Heather
What is with the woman outside the car with the frizzy hair she had, like the worst hair have ever seen on television, ever.

00;19;37;07 – 00;19;42;29
Albie
In my notes I call her LED lady because she’s got blinky lights everywhere in her shoes, in her ears.

00;19;43;02 – 00;19;43;18
Heather
Yeah.

00;19;43;18 – 00;20;01;29
Albie
And I think that was just a bad wig. Maybe to cover the wires going to the light bulbs in her earrings, because back then they really didn’t have the technology to make like LED earrings. So I’m thinking it was like Christmas tree lights hooked up to, you know, orange extension cords duct taped to her head underneath a really bad wig.

00;20;02;03 – 00;20;22;09
Heather
Yeah, because I don’t think I for the entire scene, I was staring at her hair, trying to figure out why it looks so bad. I know it’s not important. I’m aware that it’s stupid. And if there’s any guys out there listening to this, you’re thinking, I’m a total moron right now, and I totally understand your point of view.

00;20;22;11 – 00;20;28;12
Heather
But why would you not have, like, a girl with nice hair like that? Was her the point of her being pretty, wasn’t it?

00;20;28;17 – 00;20;36;12
Albie
Yeah, but in the near future, they might have bad hairstyles as a hairstyle. Bad hair is making a comeback right now, so.

00;20;36;15 – 00;20;38;06
Heather
I think the eighties are making a comeback right.

00;20;38;06 – 00;20;57;19
Albie
Now. Hey, so this is the early nineties, so it should look very contemporary pretty soon. Yes, but the reason I thought about the whole extension cord and light bulbs and stuff is when she turns in the car to look to Al, she like turns her whole torso like head and shoulders all at the same time. So she was probably like wired up or something.

00;20;57;19 – 00;21;00;13
Heather
Maybe they don’t have an next. In the future.

00;21;00;15 – 00;21;04;00
Albie
She might have got an accident. That’s why she was waiting outside her car and had a flat tire.

00;21;04;04 – 00;21;06;09
Heather
That’s why she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt.

00;21;06;11 – 00;21;30;12
Albie
The only thing that bothered me in that scene was the ADR, where her voice was definitely looped in. But I found out afterwards it was actually Deborah Pratt, co-producer of Quantum Leap, who did her voiceover. So that’s pretty cool. Yeah, She’s the same woman that in future episodes does what’s called the Saga Cell and tells you all about Quantum Leap and what happened.

00;21;30;14 – 00;21;34;21
Heather
I think that’s a fake word, saga. So yeah, I think you just made it up.

00;21;34;24 – 00;21;40;04
Albie
It’s a cool, cool word. And so they call it on the Quantum Leap soundtrack.

00;21;40;06 – 00;21;42;01
Heather
I’m just going to start making with them too.

00;21;42;03 – 00;21;59;02
Albie
He leaps. Right. We join Sam Mid Leap, Gucci is calling out and saying, Sam’s leaping, he’s leaping. And what do you think of Sam? Leaping, you know, in the in the white leotards and the the all the fire extinguisher shooting at them.

00;21;59;08 – 00;22;05;03
Heather
I think that’s kind of a silly way to time travel because personally wasn’t a flattering outfit.

00;22;05;05 – 00;22;05;25
Albie
Well, thanks.

00;22;05;27 – 00;22;14;28
Heather
You know, it looked fine. You can really see how flattering it was or whatever, because it was fire extinguisher flowing on him. And so said.

00;22;14;29 – 00;22;18;14
Albie
A lot of CO2. I don’t know, some kind of special effect going on.

00;22;18;16 – 00;22;33;00
Heather
He was in some kind of chamber of some sort. I don’t know why. I wasn’t sure why he was in such a hurry. But then I heard the saga. So the word you made up to describe the pressure.

00;22;33;00 – 00;22;40;21
Albie
To prove his theories or lose funding, he prematurely stepped into the Quantum Leap accelerator and vanished. But we don’t see him vanish.

00;22;40;26 – 00;22;42;04
Heather
No, we follow.

00;22;42;04 – 00;22;44;02
Albie
Him. Right. We go with him.

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Heather
Which is why he’s not the person that we see. Like he we see him, not the person he’s in. Did you notice that when they rewind the time back on the clock after he’s leaped, I mean, after he supposedly, you know, leaps, you see a clock and the time’s going backwards and then it goes to 459 and then it goes forwards again to 5:00.

00;23;08;20 – 00;23;16;08
Heather
There’s a black dot in the bottom corner of the clock. Well, it’s going backwards and then disappears. When it goes forward. It’s like they marked it.

00;23;16;10 – 00;23;24;12
Albie
Yeah, that’s already like the fifth and sixth time I watched the episode. I was like a piece of dirt on the film. They couldn’t clean that up in like, post or something.

00;23;24;15 – 00;23;29;17
Heather
Yeah, well, it was too circular to be. I don’t know.

00;23;29;18 – 00;23;31;06
Albie
You’re saying they put that there on purpose?

00;23;31;09 – 00;23;33;00
Heather
To me, it looked like a Sharpie marker.

00;23;33;03 – 00;23;37;01
Albie
It could have been just like to mark where they were going to do freeze frame or something.

00;23;37;03 – 00;23;45;15
Heather
Well, because I don’t know, it just seemed convenient that they were going to go backwards and then forwards and then backwards. Part. There’s a dot on the film in the same spot.

00;23;45;16 – 00;23;50;04
Albie
Well, again, back then on a 25 inch TV, you couldn’t tell. Probably there was a dot there.

00;23;50;05 – 00;24;07;25
Heather
Well, yeah, well, it’s it’s not bad. It’s not bad that they have a mark there. It’s just it’s fascinating to look at because the video editing then is different than it is now. I mean, now it’s so much more digital than it was then. And if you needed to mark a film, you had to mark the film or you going to.

00;24;07;25 – 00;24;15;17
Albie
Do and cut it and splice it and then run it through and copy it and stuff like that. It was actually like a physical medium. Yeah.

00;24;15;21 – 00;24;17;25
Heather
When now it’s, well, everything’s digital now.

00;24;17;26 – 00;24;20;22
Albie
Now you just loaded all the footage into Avid and then you edit.

00;24;20;22 – 00;24;23;24
Heather
Away and they set the computer desk with 19 screens and.

00;24;24;01 – 00;24;28;14
Albie
And you can watch it on a 60 inch screen before you broadcast it. So Yeah. And stuff like that.

00;24;28;18 – 00;24;29;02
Heather
Yeah.

00;24;29;02 – 00;24;32;13
Albie
And then you can Photoshop it out if you want or something panned out.

00;24;32;15 – 00;24;50;08
Heather
It’s not a problem to me. I actually found it more fascinating than annoying. Like you said, a piece of dirt or something. I didn’t because I saw it as a sharpie. Mark. I was like, I thought it was cool that I kind of got a glimpse into how they did it. Of course, I’m probably wrong and it’s probably just dirt.

00;24;50;10 – 00;24;52;18
Albie
Maybe we’ll talk to an editor at some point and find.

00;24;52;18 – 00;24;54;26
Heather
Out, Hey, PTW.

00;24;54;28 – 00;24;56;18
Albie
IBM, was it five or six?

00;24;56;25 – 00;24;58;12
Heather
Five? Definitely five.

00;24;58;12 – 00;25;02;15
Albie
What was that Mark at 5 a.m. in the pilot episode?

00;25;02;18 – 00;25;05;09
Heather
Like what? I had no idea. Know.

00;25;05;11 – 00;25;08;11
Albie
Like I felt my coffee and it kind of got on there.

00;25;08;11 – 00;25;13;05
Heather
I sneezed and I was eating Cheetos and it just flew onto the film.

00;25;13;06 – 00;25;21;13
Albie
That’s why it was orange. He wakes up in the past September 13th, 1956. Did you notice the song that was playing?

00;25;21;15 – 00;25;22;10
Heather
I didn’t.

00;25;22;12 – 00;25;30;19
Albie
It was okay, Sera, sera, whatever will be, will be. And the next line of that was The future is not ours to see.

00;25;30;21 – 00;25;37;11
Heather
That was definitely a good music choice. And then she sings that later when she’s drunk. So it’s kind of like bookend a.

00;25;37;12 – 00;25;50;12
Albie
Good bookends like that story, that particular leap. She’s singing the song. I don’t know if it’s because it’s in her head, because she heard it on the alarm clock. I’m thinking that was a song from the alarm clock. I don’t know if alarm clocks did that back then.

00;25;50;15 – 00;25;53;08
Heather
I would assume so. Oh, in the fifties.

00;25;53;08 – 00;25;54;21
Albie
I don’t radio. I don’t know.

00;25;54;23 – 00;25;55;16
Heather
I don’t know.

00;25;55;18 – 00;25;58;11
Albie
Yeah. And at the end she’s singing case. Her eyes are so.

00;25;58;14 – 00;25;58;25
Heather
Yeah.

00;25;58;29 – 00;26;00;28
Albie
What do you think of Peg Stratton?

00;26;01;00 – 00;26;21;10
Heather
She was cute. I liked her shoulder pads. They were kind of large, but I. As far as pregnancy attire back in the fifties, I’ve heard from my grandmother that there wasn’t very many options. You either kind of wore a tent or, you know, your old clothes kind of stretched. But yeah, I like the the tent she was wearing with the shoulder pads.

00;26;21;10 – 00;26;46;09
Heather
It was very flattering on her, but she was cute. I mean, she was she seemed like a good wife. And I liked her character. I liked that she spoke like someone who would have been in the fifties, like she’s like Tom sometimes. I mean, that’s just seems like something that you wouldn’t say now. And I liked her talking about her stretch marks on her legs.

00;26;46;09 – 00;27;02;17
Heather
I mean, it’s it’s funny to think that they had all of the same problems that pregnant women have now. I mean, of course, we all think the same, whether it’s different years, but whether it’s a different decade, I should say. But she I liked her. She was cute.

00;27;02;19 – 00;27;14;04
Albie
Jennifer Runyon, She played Peggy Stratton. I mostly remembered her from Charles in charge. She played Gwendolyn Pierce, the girl that Buddy and Charles are always obsessed with.

00;27;14;11 – 00;27;16;23
Heather
I think you made that up, too. No, I’ve never heard of it.

00;27;16;28 – 00;27;20;10
Albie
It’s a real series. Charles in Charge had Chachi, You know Scott Baio.

00;27;20;12 – 00;27;27;09
Heather
I know who she is, but I don’t know. Again, I was like a baby. I was probably negative.

00;27;27;12 – 00;27;30;14
Albie
Possibly. Yes, you might have been negative when Charles in charge was on.

00;27;30;14 – 00;27;30;29
Heather
Yeah.

00;27;30;29 – 00;27;51;17
Albie
Wow. Don’t be so negative back then. I couldn’t help it. She was also breezy in the movie Six Pack Kenny Rogers movie. I like that. When I was a kid. I watch it. No, no. Okay. But I think she played a really good part in this episode. I mean, by the end of the episode, I really think they had formed a little relationship.

00;27;51;19 – 00;27;55;08
Albie
Peg and Sam in Tom Stratton’s body.

00;27;55;12 – 00;28;28;24
Heather
Well, and I think that it was good for her, too, because, you know, when he took her dancing and the different personality, it was good for her to open her eyes a little bit. But I mean, also, besides the fact that he saved her husband and baby, but she yes, I can imagine living on a base and being scared every time you hear the planes go and and being scared that something’s going to happen to your husband or one of your friend’s husbands or one of your close friends, you know, that’s got to be scary.

00;28;29;01 – 00;28;34;14
Albie
Yeah. Every time you hear an explosion, they all run out and see if there’s a parachute or not. And I don’t know if I could live like that. That’s kind of crazy.

00;28;34;19 – 00;28;47;17
Heather
Yeah. I mean, they didn’t have a choice. They just kind of moved along with, you know, their husband. But that’s got to take a lot of courage. I liked the scene where she kicked back the washer. It’s like a cow.

00;28;47;19 – 00;28;48;11
Albie
Thinking about it.

00;28;48;16 – 00;28;49;17
Heather
Kenmore Washer.

00;28;49;19 – 00;28;52;10
Albie
Like every time she did laundry, she had to push it back.

00;28;52;13 – 00;29;17;28
Heather
Yeah. It’s funny to to see that because, you know, moms are just kind of like that. They just kind of do stuff without even thinking about it. But I think her character was very important and she was very supportive of Tom’s Sam. But I think that if my partner came to me and said to me, you know, this is what’s going on, I don’t know if I would dismiss them as quickly as she did.

00;29;18;01 – 00;29;39;09
Heather
But then again, he was a jokester and always played tricks. And that kind of covered that up, you know, that it explained why she acted like that. But I want to say that I would have more of an open mind if something crazy happened like that. And my significant other came to me and said, listen, I’m not your husband.

00;29;39;11 – 00;29;45;29
Heather
I mean, I would probably freak out, but I would I would want to say I would have a more open mind.

00;29;46;02 – 00;29;51;26
Albie
I would at least be inquisitive. And, you know, I like ask questions like investigate more, just not dismiss it.

00;29;51;28 – 00;30;16;01
Heather
Yeah, well, she just kind of like, freaked out and shut down, which is kind of also a time period thing. I mean, women weren’t really as verbal, not they weren’t as verbal, I think with their partners mean, I could be totally making ignorant accusations right now, but I want to say that the vision I have of the 1950s, women weren’t as open with men as we are now.

00;30;16;03 – 00;30;28;03
Albie
That would be my impression of the fifties also. But I don’t know if that’s true or not. Just what I know from the Donna Reed Show, you know, different different TV shows and movies from back then. But who knows if that reflected real life or not.

00;30;28;05 – 00;30;51;04
Heather
Let’s see what what else? When Sam slash Tom picks up the phone and he’s speaking, the operator, I left because I. I have an iPhone and I have Siri on my phone. And it’s funny because it was kind of like talking to Siri. It was like, that’s obviously what she was modeled after the operator and you pick up the phone and you’re like, I’d like to call so-and-so, But like, I didn’t hear what you said.

00;30;51;04 – 00;31;03;23
Heather
Forget that we didn’t live when there were operators that you called and said, Hey, I’d like to talk to Tom down the street, you know, you connect you. Yeah.

00;31;03;26 – 00;31;05;28
Albie
Dialog about that when she was young.

00;31;06;00 – 00;31;07;00
Heather
That’s awesome.

00;31;07;03 – 00;31;12;12
Albie
It worked totally different. It had a word and three numbers. Yeah. Something I don’t I don’t get that.

00;31;12;12 – 00;31;15;14
Heather
That’s what it looked like on the phone. Like I don’t like blocks.

00;31;15;14 – 00;31;19;16
Albie
And like three five, seven. I don’t know how that would get you anywhere.

00;31;19;19 – 00;31;29;28
Heather
Well, your brain, something about your brain can comprehend ten numbers at a time or seven numbers at a time. Certain. So it works out that the phone numbers that long now.

00;31;30;02 – 00;31;43;00
Albie
While he’s trying to call his office at first to figure out where he was and what’s going on, that didn’t work. But then he figured out if his dad’s still alive, he could call his dad. Yeah, I think I would do the same thing if I woke up in the past and call my dad. I would call my dad.

00;31;43;03 – 00;31;44;20
Heather
Her dad’s not here anymore.

00;31;44;21 – 00;32;00;03
Albie
Nope. So I identified a lot with that storyline, and I think it was really good that they carried that through the whole episode through both leaps. Yeah, that was a really good part of the story. Very good character development. So early on. Yeah. In a pilot like that, what’s so secret about an area code?

00;32;00;05 – 00;32;22;23
Heather
I thought that was funny. When Bird Dog picks them up and they’re driving in the car, I realize there’s no seatbelts. In the past or future, number one. And number two, he said, We’re the only two guys brave enough to fly the X-2, and I’m pretty sure they are not the only two guys to fly. The X-2 isn’t the x two of the thing, the little like thing?

00;32;22;23 – 00;32;24;25
Albie
Like I got to test the test. The.

00;32;24;28 – 00;32;35;01
Heather
Yeah, not the big plane that they fly. That’s the little one. But before. But like, they don’t even fly it at first. Someone else does. And I’m like that’s the third person right there.

00;32;35;04 – 00;32;40;22
Albie
Well you’re forgetting the rule that if you’re trying to pick up a woman, you can lie. It’s not immoral.

00;32;40;22 – 00;32;45;26
Heather
Very true. Yes. Yeah. I wasn’t thinking that was a continuity error. I was thinking that that was definitely a pickup line.

00;32;45;26 – 00;32;57;14
Albie
Yeah, he was a bird dog, and he was trying to pick up a woman so he could say anything. Because he said when he was talking to her, that’s sonic boom you hear later will be dedicated to you. And neither one of them are flying the plane when it. So you know.

00;32;57;14 – 00;33;04;07
Heather
Which is funny because it was the guy that like she was staying at the guy’s house or whatever anyway. Right. Or something like that.

00;33;04;07 – 00;33;11;21
Albie
I was led to believe. But it was a good pickup line because really a good no risk. And then big reward, you know, if she hears a sonic boom.

00;33;11;21 – 00;33;12;28
Heather
So yeah.

00;33;13;00 – 00;33;16;13
Albie
That was cool. They played Ain’t nothing but a hound dog. Elvis Presley.

00;33;16;18 – 00;33;40;15
Heather
Yeah. Gotta love Elvis. So I don’t know if it’s just this episode because like I said, I’ve only seen the pilot episode, but in this episode there are clouds all the time. There’s clouds in the opening. There’s clouds like there’s just shots of clouds. Clouds played a big significant part in this show, obviously. So I don’t know. But in the opening, it’s all clouds, like the music.

00;33;40;16 – 00;34;01;28
Albie
I had a couple of thoughts on that. One was it was filler. Maybe they didn’t have enough to fill out a whole, you know, two hour television movie, which is what this was at first. And Misty Night at the Movies, Movie of the week kind of thing. The other thing in when we first started talking about doing this podcast, I ordered every making of book on Quantum Leap that I could find.

00;34;02;01 – 00;34;17;00
Albie
And one of the articles in the books talked about Donald Peebles, Are you wanting to do an anthology series? And he had seen the movie Heaven Can Wait with Warren Beatty, which is about I don’t know if you’ve seen it. No, it’s about.

00;34;17;03 – 00;34;18;09
Heather
Does that surprise you?

00;34;18;12 – 00;34;22;10
Albie
No, but I want to I don’t want to assume anything. So I was going to ask.

00;34;22;13 – 00;34;25;16
Heather
One day I’m going to shock you and be like, I’ve seen that one. Yes.

00;34;25;18 – 00;34;27;27
Albie
I’ve seen Soylent Green, believe it or not.

00;34;28;00 – 00;34;28;28
Heather
Nope.

00;34;29;01 – 00;34;46;11
Albie
Not even that one. Okay. It’s about a guy that gets pulled from his body right before he’s about to get hit by a truck and die. So the angel pulls him out before he has to deal with that. And he’s dead. His body gets cremated. And he wasn’t supposed to die yet. He was supposed to die 20 years from then.

00;34;46;11 – 00;35;01;00
Albie
He would have got out of the way on his bicycle because he’s a good bike rider or something. They have to find another body for him to go back in. So maybe the clouds have something to do with that. What he was thinking, I don’t know. In the description of the show, they say controlled by an unseen force.

00;35;01;00 – 00;35;18;24
Albie
So I think it’s not only a sci fi show, but a fantasy show. I think they mentioned time, fate or God is controlling his leaping, possibly because there’s some kind of X factor that they don’t know what’s controlling his leaping where and when and why. So that might have something to do with it, too.

00;35;18;26 – 00;35;23;01
Heather
Well, they also probably don’t want to say this. They don’t offend anybody either way.

00;35;23;03 – 00;35;42;27
Albie
It was a good way to to say it that something or someone is got something to do with his leaping other than just the project itself. So that might have something to do with the clouds, but probably mostly time filler. And just a it also had to do with pilots. Can I say that I love that a pilot of a TV has to do with pilots.

00;35;43;00 – 00;35;51;27
Heather
I’m upset and disappointed in myself that I didn’t pick up on that because I feel like I’m smarter than like I should have. I should have put that together.

00;35;52;00 – 00;36;03;23
Albie
I love pilots that have to do with pilots like the pilot of Lost. It had to do with a plane crashing and the pilot died and the pilot was. Greg Grunberg.

00;36;03;25 – 00;36;04;25
Heather
Hi spoilers.

00;36;05;02 – 00;36;08;12
Albie
It’s the first episode, it’s the first 2 minutes. So spoiler and.

00;36;08;14 – 00;36;09;00
Heather
I’m.

00;36;09;02 – 00;36;30;24
Albie
Sorry, spoiler. Sure. Why didn’t they call it Pilot? Yeah, the movie was called Quantum Leap, but when they renamed it for syndication, then it became Genesis part one and two. But originally it was just Quantum Leap. They get to the Air Force base and Bird Dog decided to play a joke on Weird Ernie and Doctor Berger about them not remembering how to fly because.

00;36;30;26 – 00;36;32;14
Heather
Sam was freaking out.

00;36;32;15 – 00;36;40;27
Albie
Sam is freaking out. He don’t remember how to fly. And so he’s like, Oh, that’s a funny joke. Let’s pull that joke. So what do you think of Weird Ernie, Dr. Berger and that whole group of pilots.

00;36;41;00 – 00;36;42;06
Heather
That guys from something.

00;36;42;12 – 00;36;44;04
Albie
Weird? Ernie Yeah.<