
The Psychedelic Podcast
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S1 Ep 101Casey Paleos, M.D. -Telemedicine, Ketamine Lozenges, and Healing Depression
EDr. Casey Paleos is among the earliest researchers in the third wave of psychedelic study, both in ketamine and other psychedelics. In this episode, he and Paul discuss the use of ketamine in telemedicine, early psilocybin and ketamine trials, effective ketamine protocols, and re-forming the grooves in our brains.

S1 Ep 100Kyle Kingsbury - Parenting, Polyamory, and Accepting Paradox
EIn this episode, Paul Austin, founder of Third Wave, and former UFC fighter Kyle Kingsbury discuss the role of psychedelics in parenting, polyamory, interconnectedness, masculinity, caring for the earth, and accepting paradox.

S1 Ep 99Will Van Derveer, M.D. - Shaping Your Own Reality with Ketamine
EIn this episode, Paul Austin, founder of Third Wave, and integrative psychiatrist Dr. Will Van Derveer discuss the mind/body connection, the role of ketamine as a catalyst for long-term whole-body health, and the importance of personal responsibility in sustaining positive transformation.

S1 Ep 98Marcela Ot'alora - What Quarantine and Psychedelics Share in Common
EIn this episode, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave, and Marcela Ot'alora, researcher and MDMA therapist, discuss some unexpected similarities in the insights gained through isolation and psychedelic experiences.

S1 Ep 97Trevor Millar - How Inner Reflection Catalyzes External Evolution
EIn this episode, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave, and Trevor Millar, Executive Director of the Canadian Psychedelic Association, discuss the recent petition to the Canadian government to decriminalize all psychedelics, how to blend the competing philosophies of the personal and the collective, and the drive to share the transformational benefits of psychedelics with others.

S1 Ep 96Jesse Gould - Healing War Trauma Through Ayahuasca
EIn this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave, and Jesse Gould, founder and President of Heroic Hearts Project, discuss the role of ayahuasca in treating veterans' mental health. As an army ranger deployed three times to Afghanistan, Gould overcame his own PTSD through ayahuasca therapy, and is now dedicated to helping other veterans do the same.

S1 Ep 95Tucker Max - Healing Emotional Trauma, Embracing Personal Responsibility
EIn this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave and Tucker Max, bestselling author and entrepreneur, discuss the role of psychedelics in processing trauma, empowering individual choice, and guiding personal evolution. You'll hear about the specific ways that psychedelics help you confront and process trauma, the importance of creating productive relationships with therapeutic substances, and the power of the stories we tell ourselves.

S1 Ep 94Tom and Sheri Eckert - Inside the Campaign to Legalize Psilocybin Therapy in Oregon
EIn this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave, speaks with husband-and-wife team Tom and Sheri Eckert—seasoned psychotherapists, founders of the Oregon Psilocybin Society, and architects of the Psilocybin Service Initiative of Oregon (Yes on 109), a statewide ballot initiative campaign to legalize psilocybin-assisted therapy. Here you'll find an inside glimpse into their vision to make psilocybin therapy available not just for people with particular mental health diagnoses, but for the general public as well (with some exceptions).

S1 Ep 93Jennie Rivlin, Ph.D. - The Transformational Power of Microdosing
ELeadership coach Dr. Jennie Rivlin explains how the Third Wave Microdosing Experience helped her move from fear to flow, overcome depression, and find healing in community.

S1 Ep 92Joe Tafur, M.D. - Integrated Spirituality as a Path to Healing and Wholeness
EIn this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave and Joe Tafur, M.D., integrative family physician, curandero, speaker, and author of The Fellowship of the River: A Medical Doctor's Exploration into Traditional Amazonian Plant Medicine, chat about the ways in which science and spirituality are intersecting to help heal humanity—a breakthrough he's exploring through the Modern Spirit Epigenetic Project, an initiative that has seen him join forces with the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) and the University of Southern California (USC) to explore the biological basis of psychedelic medicine and investigate how healing from trauma can alter the way our genes are expressed.

S1 Ep 91Deanne Adamson - Addiction, Transformation, and Rediscovering Our True Selves
EIn this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave and Deanne Adamson, founder of Being True To You Transformational Recovery, have a candid discussion about overcoming addiction, the power of conversion experiences to awaken us to our life's purpose, and aligning to your heart's true calling. You'll also learn about the three stages of psychedelic integration coaching, the importance of shadow work, and the differences between psychedelic coaches, guides, facilitators, sitters, and therapists.

S1 Ep 90Alexandra Roxo - Breaking Patterns, Healing Triggers, and the Nuance of Self-Expression
EAlexandra Roxo is an author, artist, speaker, mentor, and spiritual guide who has been sharing her heart publicly for nearly two decades. Twelve million people watched her Vice show Life as a Truck Stop Stripper, where she went to work at a truck stop strip club, and which was later adapted into a pilot with executive producer Spike Jonze. Her web series Be Here Nowish was featured in Vogue, The New Yorker, and London Times. She has also supported thousands of women in their journey towards self-embodiment and recently authored the book F*ck Like A Goddess. In this inaugural video podcast, Alexandra and Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave, chat about ayahuasca, sexuality, inviting epiphanies through non-resistance, breaking patterns, and facing our shadows.

S1 Ep 89Dylan Beynon - Transforming Mental Healthcare with Telemedicine Psychedelic Therapy
EDylan Beynon is the Founder and CEO of Mindbloom, an NYC-based mental health and wellbeing startup helping people expand their human potential with clinician-prescribed, guided psychedelic medicine experiences. In this podcast, Dylan chats with Paul F. Austin about old medicine vs. new medicine, centralization vs. decentralization, and transforming lives to transform the world.

S1 Ep 88Ronan Levy - Regulating Psychedelic Medicine, FDA Approval, and Why We Need More Evidence
EIn this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave, speaks with Ronan Levy, Co-founder and Executive Chairman of Field Trip Health. Together, they cover several controversial themes—including the role regulation should play in the psychedelic space, whether FDA approval is required to legitimize psychedelic therapies, the pros and cons of relying on expert evidence, the lifestyle changes suggested for integration, and finding a middle ground between trusting and blaming big pharma.

S1 Ep 87Louie Schwartzberg - The Real Underground Movement: Fantastic Fungi, the Mycelial Network, and Symbiosis
EThis podcast features an intellectually orgasmic conversation between Paul F. Austin, founder of The Third Wave, and Louie Schwartzberg, the award-winning producer, director, and cinematographer responsible for the breakaway film, Fantastic Fungi. Tune in to hear what they have to say about the creation and grassroots promotion of Fantastic Fungi, the power of a personal mycelial network to bring people together, the role of the back to the land movement, finding wonder and awe, and growing your own tomatoes.

S1 Ep 86Tania de Jong AM - Healing the Planet's Suffering with Plant Medicines
ETania de Jong AM is a trail-blazing Australian soprano, global speaker, and award-winning social entrepreneur who has developed five businesses and three charities—including Mind Medicine Australia, which supports psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy for the treatment of mental illness. In this wide-ranging podcast, she and Paul F. Austin talk about mental health, surviving trauma, the mind-altering power of music, catapulting into the cosmos with psychedelics, kangaroos, and folding umbrellas.

S1 Ep 85Julie Holland, M.D. - Psychedelics and Activation of the Parasympathetic State
EDr. Julie Holland—a psychiatrist specializing in psychopharmacology and author of the recently-released book, Good Chemistry: The Science of Connection From Soul to Psychedelics—riffs with Paul F. Austin on oxytocin, music, death, and using psychedelics to activate our parasympathetic state of being. Get ready for a ride that covers topics ranging from The Very Hungry Caterpillar to MDMA, cannabis, and PTSD.

S1 Ep 84Molly Maloof, M.D - Neuroplasticity, Psychedelics, and Other Strategies for Boosting Immunity
EDr. Molly Maloof—physician, nutritional consultant, and popular speaker—chats with Paul Austin on how to boost our immunity and foster neuroplasticity through psychedelics, meditation, and healthier lifestyle choices. Tune in to discover some steps you can take to improve your physical and mental wellbeing as you navigate the current period of uncertainty and heightened anxiety.

S1 Ep 83Peter Corbett - Start-Ups, Success, and Spirituality
EPeter Corbett, retired founder and Buddhist practitioner, joins Paul Austin to discuss the intersection of start-ups, success, and spirituality. Peter traversed the start-up road for the past ten years, bootstrapping his digital agency to a multi-million dollar exit. Listen in as Peter explains why his search for money, status, and achievement led to a developmental dead-end - and how his perspectives changed from intentional plant medicine use.

S1 Ep 82Greg Ferenstein - Ethnography, Truffle Retreats, and Tracking Transformation
EHost Paul F. Austin sits down with Greg Ferenstein, a data scientist and social ethnographer who has explored the cutting-edge of modern microdosing use by devising a comprehensive system for tracking real-time transformation with psychedelics.

S1 Ep 81Daragh Crowley - Rolfing, Structural Integration, and Becoming Whole
EDaragh Crowley, certified rolfer and movement enthusiast, sits down with host Paul F. Austin to discuss why healing the physical body is central to becoming whole and what role rolfing, movement, and psychedelics play in this process.

S1 Ep 80David Luke, Ph.D. - Synesthesia, Shared Hallucinations, and DMT Telepathy
EDr. David Luke, a senior lecturer and psychedelic weirdness extraordinare, sits down with host Paul F. Austin to discuss synesthesia, shared hallucinations, and why telepathy might actually be possible with smokable DMT.

S1 Ep 79Philippa Wilkin - Transformational Breathwork and Cultivating Presence
EPhilippa Wilkin, transformational leadership coach and breathwork facilitator, sits down with host Paul F. Austin to discuss existential crises, why breathwork helps to integrate repressed emotions, and how consistently live in a state of presence.

S1 Ep 78Ben Sessa, Ph.D. - MDMA, Healing Trauma, and the Future of Psychiatry
EDr. Ben Sessa, consultant psychiatrist and author of "The Psychedelic Renaissance", sits down with host Paul F. Austin to discuss his recent MDMA trials for alcoholism, how Ben became the first person to legally take psychedelics in the UK since the 60s, and why MDMA is so good at healing core attachment-based trauma.

S1 Ep 77David Rabin, M.D. Ph.D. Daniel Cortez, and Brooke Deputy - Hacking Consciousness Without the Drugs
EListen to a live podcast panel entitled: "Without the Drugs: Modalities for Hacking Consciousness" brought to you by The Third Wave. Dr. David Rabin, Daniel Cortez, and Brooke Deputy join Paul Austin for a far-ranging conversation about the utility of non-ordinary states in healing and transformation.

S1 Ep 76David Grillot and Jonathan Glazer - Thank You Plant Medicine
ELearn about the Thank You Plant Medicine movement from the two co-founders David Grillot and Jonathan Glazer.

S1 Ep 75Geoff Hanzlik - On Ayahuasca, Masculinity, and Leadership in Chaos
EGeoff Hanzlik joins Paul Austin for an insightful conversation about ayahuasca, masculinity, and the necessity of emotional regulation for mature and developed leadership. Tune into this episode to hear Geoff discuss his experience as an ayahuasca facilitator for the Santo Daime church, why he abruptly stopped hosting ceremonies, and what he has learned about emotional regulation from plant medicine.

S1 Ep 74David Rabin, M.D. Ph.D. - Where Science and Spirit Meet: The Intersection of Psychedelics and Epigenetics
EDavid Rabin, M.D. Ph.D. joins host Paul Austin for a riveting conversation about the intersection of science and spirituality in psychedelic medicine.

S1 Ep 73AnnaLynne McCord and Kerry Rhodes - Healing the Self with Ayahuasca
ELearn how ayahuasca healed the inner child of AnnaLynne McCord and resurrected the warrior in Kerry Rhodes in this riveting discussion on The Third Wave podcast.

S1 Ep 71Gerard Adams - Ayahuasca, Conscious Leadership, and Creating Meaningful Movements
EGerard Adams, widely known as the "Millenial Mentor", joins host Paul Austin to discuss leadership and how plant medicine impacted Gerard's perspective on what matters most in business and in life. In 2015, Gerard Adams sold Elite Daily for $50 million. Many things have changed since that defining day, including the beginning of his practice with plant medicine. Integrating the insights learned from 5-MeO-DMT and ayahuasca has helped Gerard to weave together new models of business and conscsiousness, creating inspiring roadmaps for young leaders across the globe.

S1 Ep 70James Beshara - Burnout, Rebirth, and Going Beyond Coffee
EJames Beshara, an angel investor, founder, podcaster, and general startup-helper, joins host Paul Austin to discuss burnout as a founder and what tools James discovered beyond coffee to feel his best. Burnout has become increasingly common in the workplace. It is particularly insidious in the start-up world. In this week's episode, we talked about James's new book "Beyond Coffee: A Sustainable Guide to Nootropics, Adaptogens, and Mushrooms" and why doing more as a founder is not equivalent to living a life of meaning and purpose.

S1 Ep 69Dana Larsen - The World's First Microdosing Mushroom Dispensary
EDana Larsen, well-known cannabis rights activist, joins host Paul Austin to discuss his new microdosing mushroom dispensary in Vancouver, British Columbia. Dana has fought unjust cannabis laws for several years, opening one of Canada's first cannabis dispensaries in 2008. Applying the lessons learned from his path as a cannabis activist, Dana is now utilizing his valuable experience to destigmatize psychedelics. His goal is to normalize psilocybin mushrooms for healing and personal growth. Podcast highlights: Dana's path of civil disobedience and why he chose to open some of the first cannabis dispensaries in Canada Why Dana is now using his experience in cannabis activism and applying it to psilocybin How Dana makes a living as an activist - and why he wants others to follow a similar path for cannabis and psychedelics

S1 Ep 68Douglas Rushkoff - What Does It Mean to be Human?
EDouglas Rushkoff, best-selling author and one of the world's ten most influential intellectuals, joins host Paul Austin to discuss what it means to be human. In a Western world beset by technological distraction and a never-ending thirst for more, what role do psychedelics play in cultivating mystery, awe, and reverence? Further, why is it so important to embrace these elements - mystery, awe, and reverence - as part of our human nature?

S1 Ep 67Françoise Bourzat - Utilizing Expanded States for Healing and Transformation
EFrançoise Bourzat and Kristina Hunter, co-authors of "Consciousness Medicine," sit down with Paul Austin to discuss the importance of psychedelic guides, why courage is central to healing, and the value of earth wisdom that comes from working with plant medicines. If you're interested in the safe and ethical application of psychedelics - whether for healing, transformation, or general curiosity - then join us for a riveting conversation about the importance of guides during a psychedelic experience.

S1 Ep 66Michael Costuros, Tiffany Liu & Tim Sae Koo - Transitioning From "Business As Usual" With Psychedelics
EPsychedelic entrepreneurs Tiffany Liu, Tim Sae Koo, and Michael Costuros join Paul Austin in San Francisco for a conversation on the intersection of psychedelics and business. Can psychedelics help change our exploitative business mindsets, and produce more compassionate, fair practices? For show links go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-66-costuros-liu-koo/ Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 65Ingmar Gorman, Ph.D. & Elizabeth Nielson, Ph.D. - Curating an Optimal Psychedelic Experience
EPsychedelic psychotherapists Ingmar Gorman and Elizabeth Nielson speak at our 3W Nodes event in NYC about preparing for and integrating a psychedelic experience. These experienced psychologists share the best techniques for getting the most out of a psychedelic trip. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/episode-65-ingmar-gorman-elizabeth-nielson/ Sign up to our microdosing course here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 64Charlotte Walsh - Improving Drug Policy in the UK
E"If you think that the point of drug policy was to control minority groups, to exploit the resources of other countries; then it's been an enormous success." Academic lawyer Charlotte Walsh shares her experience working in drug policy, and explains why the UK is facing an uphill battle to change the stigma around psychoactive substances. Although police forces in the UK have some capacity to diverge from national policy and work to their own drug policy, this is nowhere near the power that US states can exercise in response to federal law. Charlotte explains the unique challenges that the UK faces before achieving legalization, including: a powerful right-wing tabloid media; a deep-rooted anti-cannabis stigma; and particularly unforgiving attitudes towards cognitive liberty. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-64-charlotte-walsh/ Sign up to our microdosing course here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 63Will Siu, Ph.D. - The Future of Psychedelics: Medicalization, Microdosing, and the Mainstream
EJoin us at our 3W Node event in New York, with our guest Dr. Will Siu, a psychiatrist who has been trained as a psychedelic therapist by MAPS. He talks about the problems with conventional therapy, and explains how psychedelic-assisted therapy could take up some of the slack. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-63-will-siu/ Sign up for our microdosing course! https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 62David Bronner - When CEO stands for "Cosmic Engagement Officer"
EDavid Bronner is the "Cosmic Engagement Officer" for the family business, Dr. Bronner's Soap (yes, the big bottles you've seen for decades at pharmacies and health food stores alike). He's a proud psychonaut who has helped his company's annual revenue grow from $5 million to $125 million. Along the way he's created a new standard for how corporations can improve the lives of their employees and partners while giving away huge sums of money to vital causes. David's life's work challenges us to reimagine ourselves as citizens of the planet, cultural participants, self-aware consumers, and individuals seeking wholeness. He warns about the "disaster of the Western colonialist mindset." On this week's podcast, one of the most prolific donors and respected leaders in the psychedelic space joins Paul Austin for a fascinating discussion on psychedelics, business ethics, and sustainability. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-62-david-bronner/ Sign up to our microdosing course here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 61Matthew Kahl - Surviving PTSD with Cannabis and Ayahuasca
EIn this episode, veteran advocate Matthew Kahl talks about going from taking 20 prescription medications a day to letting them gather dust in his medicine cabinet—and how he carries that transformation into his work. After you listen to Matt's story of recovery and growth propelled by cannabis and ayahuasca, you'll understand why he's dedicated his life to bringing these substances to a wider population. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-61-matthew-kahl/ To learn more about microdosing, join our course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 60Elizabeth Bast - The History and Future of Iboga
EElizabeth Bast, author and entheogenic coach, shares her well-rounded experience with the plant medicine iboga. She speaks about its potential for personal healing and psycho-spiritual growth, and also the issues surrounding its cultural history and evolving future. We also discuss the current state of the psychedelic movement, and examine how we can culturally integrate these medicines and use their teachings to guide us as we strive to make them available to as many people as possible. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-60-elizabeth-bast/ Learn more about microdosing here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 59Stefana Bosse - Building Psychedelic Societies
EStefana Bosse, Head of Experience for the London Psychedelic Society, explains what psychedelic ceremony means to her, and why psychedelic societies are so important for the healing of people and culture. We hear about what made Stefana decide to work in psychedelics, and why the transformations that psychedelics induce can be so profound. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-59-stefana-bosse Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course

S1 Ep 58Kim Iglinsky - Finding Purpose with Psychedelics
EFrom fashion model to psychedelic guide – Kim Iglinsky has an unusual career path. Kim describes how her upbringing in an Israeli Kibbutz, followed by an unsatisfying career in modelling, led to her seeking love and belonging in psychedelic ritual. Ayahuasca played an important part in the transformation that helped her find meaning and fulfilment in life. She describes her practices of psychedelic integration, and how her microdosing regime keeps her depression at bay. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-58-kim-iglinsky/ Learn more about microdosing: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 57Adam Strauss - A Fresh Perspective on OCD
EAlthough Adam Strauss named his popular show "The Mushroom Cure," his psychedelic knowledge doesn't end at psilocybin mushrooms. In this episode, Adam shares with us the good and bad of his psychedelic experiences – from solipsistic nightmares to curative perspective shifts. We hear about Adam's opinion on microdosing, and how exposing his vulnerabilities on stage is just what some people need. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-57-adam-strauss/ For more information about microdosing, sign up to our extensive course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 56Sophia Rokhlin - Keeping Psychedelics Weird
EAnthropologist Sophia Rokhlin joins us on the podcast to discuss ayahuasca, sustainability, and the role of microdosing in capitalist society. Sophia shares her experiences with ayahuasca shamans, and describes the issues of sustainability – where should we draw the line when it comes to the commodification of ayahuasca? Sophia also gives her opinion on microdosing, and the dangers of it being used to further corporate 'growth-at-all-costs' goals. For show links, see here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-56-sophia-rokhlin/ Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 55Ben Greenfield - What Does a World-Class Fitness Coach Have to Say About Microdosing?
EAs one of the world's top fitness coaches, Ben Greenfield has a lot of experience with self-optimization. So what does he have to say about psychedelics and psychedelic microdosing as tools for personal development? We discuss rites of passage, ego loss, and holistic health – and how spirituality can be an important complement to physical fitness. Disclaimer:in this podcast, Ben briefly discusses stem cell therapies. These are unapproved and have often been associated with deadly scams. Please don't take Ben's experiments as medical advice. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-55-ben-greenfield/ Join our microdosing course to learn more! https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 54Tao Lin - The Optimal Environment for Microdosing
ETao Lin, celebrated novelist and poet, describes the perception-altering effects of psychedelics and microdosing, and how they've influenced his outlook on life. Tao discusses the importance of listening to ancestral wisdom, and how plant medicines can be used with other complementary practices to improve our lives. We talk about the damages of modern life, and what a rural lifestyle could offer us. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-54-tao-lin/ Sign up to our extensive microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 53Zoe Helene - Psychedelic Feminism and Male Allies
EZoe Helene, psychedelic feminist and cultural activist, joins us to talk sacred plant medicines, cultural preservation, and the importance of diversity in psychedelic communities. Zoe shares how her experiences with ayahuasca have influenced her world view, especially around "plant spirit," and the importance of preserving indigenous cultural traditions. We also discuss the far-reaching damages that have resulted from patriarchal oppression, and how the psychedelic renaissance is not immune. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-53-zoe-helene/ Join our world-leading microdosing community: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

S1 Ep 52Martijn Schirp - The Future of Psychedelic Retreats
EMartijn Schirp, founder of High Existence and the psychedelic retreats 'Synthesis' and 'Apotheosis,' joins us to talk about psychedelic ceremony and personal development. Martijn explains why he decided to set up his own style of psychedelic ceremony, and how they differ from more traditional, ritualistic frameworks. He shares with us his hopes for the future of psychedelics and their integration into mainstream society. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-52-martijn-schirp/ Sign up to the Synthesis psychedelic retreat in Amsterdam: https://synthesisretreat.com

S1 Ep 51Benjamin De Loenen - Avoiding a "Quick Fix" Mentality
EBenjamin De Loenen, founder of plant medicine non-profit ICEERS, joins us for a discussion on ayahuasca and iboga. We discuss the wide-ranging impact that plant medicines could have on modern society, and the implications of disrespecting their power and origin. Benjamin lays out the various traps the psychedelic movement could fall into, and the best approaches to getting psychedelic medicines accepted by policymakers and the public. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-51-benjamin-de-loenen/ Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/