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They Tore the Heart Out of The Washington Post

Hello, media consumers. Bryan and David are here to discuss the news of mass layoffs at The Washington Post. They talk about losing your job in media in 2026 (1:47); how The Washington Post, specifically the sports section, got here; and how it could have been saved (9:30). They wrap up with a few other notes and thoughts from this major shake-up in the media landscape (34:18). Check out Bryan’s piece on the Washington Post layoffs here. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Feb 5, 202649 min

The Super Bowl of Super Bowl Story Lines With Danny Heifetz and Danny Kelly

Hello, media consumers! It’s Super Bowl media week, and Bryan is joined by Danny Heifetz and Danny Kelly of The Ringer Fantasy Football Show to discuss the biggest story lines heading into this Seahawks-Patriots Super Bowl. They start by talking about the Seattle-related story lines (14:24) and follow that up with the story lines from New England’s side (32:42). They wrap up by discussing Mike Tirico and Cris Collinsworth’s first Super Bowl together (40:27), Bad Bunny’s halftime show (46:42), and advice for journalists in Santa Clara this week (51:40). Host: Bryan CurtisGuests: Danny Heifetz and Danny KellyProducers: Isaiah Blakely, Bruce Baldwin, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Feb 3, 20261h 3m

The January Issue: ‘In Cold Blood’ and the Invention of True Crime

Hello, media consumers! Welcome to the January Issue. This month, Bryan and David come together to celebrate the 60th anniversary of Truman Capote’s ‘In Cold Blood’ being published by Random House. This episode is broken into four chapters, just like the non-fiction novel. Bryan and David start Chapter 1 by discussing Truman Capote himself, and how he was the podcast guest before there were podcast guests (03:20). They have a conversation about who is comparable to Capote in the modern age (09:09), why non-fiction with the style of fiction hits the reader the way it does (17:22), and why Capote wanted to combine these styles (21:04). In Chapter 2, the guys dive into the relationship between Capote and the killers of the Clutter family (26:41), Capote’s journalistic good luck (31:54), and his interviewing techniques (37:21). In Chapter 3, Bryan and David talk about what they made of ‘In Cold Blood’ after re-reading it (1:01:51), Truman Capote’s fabulism (1:05:48), and whether ‘In Cold Blood’ would have been as successful if Capote had said it was almost all true (1:12:14). In Chapter 4, Bryan and David take a look at the impact ‘In Cold Blood’ has had on the media (1:14:43). They discuss ‘In Cold Blood’ being the invention of true crime (1:16:06), and what the heirs of the book are (1:22:32). The January Issue ends with Bryan and David recommending other books you might like if you enjoyed reading ‘In Cold Blood’ (1:30:27). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guests: Chip McGrath and Gerald Clarke Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 30, 20261h 38m

Gov. Wes Moore on ICE and Minneapolis, Democrats in 2026, the Next Black President, Jay-Z Power Rankings, and the End of the John Harbaugh Era.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel are joined today for a bonus episode by Maryland Gov. Wes Moore. The governor discusses his feelings on ICE and the shooting of Alex Pretti (02:31), whether Kristi Noem should resign as head of Homeland Security (05:43), and how Democrats can convince voters of their plan on immigration (08:49). The interview continues with a conversation about Jay-Z songs and lyrics (13:30), today’s political climate (21:19), and whether Gov. Moore is running for president in 2028 (23:49). The show ends with some talk about Gov. Moore’s college football career (30:09), and if it was time for John Harbaugh to go (34:05). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 29, 202641 min

The Democratic Depth Chart with Van Lathan

Hello, media consumers! Today on The Press Box, we have a special episode! Bryan and Joel are joined in studio by The Ringer’s own Van Lathan to create a 2028 Democratic Nominee depth chart. The guys go through a list of potential candidates for the 2028 Democratic nomination for President, discussing the outlook and viability of each person. The list spans all the way from frontrunners like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Gavin Newsom, to long shots like John Stewart. The show wraps up with Van ranking them in order of who he thinks will win the nomination as of today. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (2:26) Gavin Newsom (7:20) Pete Buttigieg (16:12) Josh Shapiro (17:42) Kamala Harris (20:48) Tim Walz (25:46) Stephen A. Smith (26:27) Mark Cuban (28:03) JB Pritzker (32:08) Rahm Emmanuel (33:53) Bernie Sanders (35:54) Joe Biden (37:00) Wes Moore (37:35) Corey Booker (39:21) Michele Obama (40:40) Ruben Gallego (44:43) Mark Kelly (45:45) Bob Iger (47:47) Gretchen Whitmer (48:41) James Talarico (49:26) Andy Beshear (53:29) Liz Cheney (1:03:33) John Fetterman (1:03:56 Tech Mogul/Pop Culture Persona TBD (1:04:02) Jon Stewart (1:04:24) Hunter Biden (1:09:36) Putting the Candidates in Order (1:10:40) Jasmine Crockett (1:11:53) Ro Khanna (1:12:51) Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Van Lathan Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Conor Nevins, Ben Cruz, Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 28, 20261h 18m

Another Killing in Minneapolis and the Dismantling of The Washington Post

Hello, media consumers! Bryan, David, and Joel come together on today’s episode for a three-man weave. The guys start by discussing the shooting of Alex Pretti (01:58), the way the Trump administration has tried to spin the story (10:04), and the way the Minnesota Star Tribune has covered these events (29:50). After that, Bryan, Joel, and David give their thoughts on the rumored shuttering of the Washington Post sports desk (33:33), alongside other rumored layoffs that could affect half of the company's newsroom. The show ends with a new edition of Our Disillusioned Listeners, where Bryan, David, and Joel answer questions from you, the listeners (51:58). Plus, David and Joel Guess the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis, David Shoemaker, Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Social: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 27, 20261h 17m

Senator Mark Kelly on Trump and Greenland, ICE Raids, Combat Missions in Iraq, and His 2028 Plans

Hello, media consumers! On today’s episode, Bryan interviews Senator Mark Kelly (D-Arizona). Their conversation starts with his thoughts on Trump’s attempts to acquire Greenland (01:21), what he thinks is driving Trump’s foreign policy in his second term (03:18), and the purpose of the video he and other Congress members released about ignoring illegal military orders (07:19). Next, Bryan and Senator Kelly discuss how it feels to be 15 years removed from the horrific shooting of his wife, former House Representative Gabby Giffords (D-Arizona) (15:31), before diving into his thoughts on Trump’s actions in and against Venezuela (17:33). After that, they talk about his experiences as a fighter pilot in Iraq (27:16), whether Democrats were prepared for Trump 2.0 (33:23), and immigration (40:18). Lastly, Bryan asks Senator Kelly if he is running for President in 2028 (48:22), before ending with some classic Ringer pop culture questions (52:02). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Host: Bryan Curtis Guest: Senator Mark Kelly Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz, Conor Nevins, and Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 24, 202659 min

Trump’s Greenland Crisis, a Sideline Reporter Runs for Senate, and Some Final Thoughts on the National Championship

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel come together in person to discuss Trump's Greenland crisis (02:10). The guys listen to President Trump’s comments on Greenland (04:09), Iceland (05:30), and NATO (07:47), examining why Trump is doing what he's doing and whether it is simpler than people thought (12:49). Next, Bryan and Joel discuss Bari Weiss’s attempts at damage control following the airing of the spiked '60 Minutes' CECOT piece and the New Yorker profile on her (19:06). After that, the guys dive into some football audio (29:43), including sounds from the national football championship postgame festivities (36:55). Finally, the show wraps up with a discussion about former sideline reporter Michele Tafoya’s newly announced U.S. Senate campaign (43:31). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz, Conor Nevins, and Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 22, 202654 min

The Latest from CBS News and the Craziest Postgame in the Playoffs. Plus: the New Yorker’s Susan Glasser on Year 1 of Trump 2.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss everything coming out of CBS News, including The New Yorker’s profile on Bari Weiss, Trump’s remarks to Tony Dokoupil, and the spiked '60 Minutes' segment finally making it to air (00:27). Next, the guys listen to some football audio from the College Football Playoff national championship (08:48) before checking in to see how Tony Romo did in the announcer booth this weekend (22:26). After that, The Ringer’s own Lindsay Jones joins the show to discuss her experience covering the postgame happenings after the Denver Broncos beat the Buffalo Bills (24:40). Lastly, The New Yorker’s Susan Glasser joins the show to discuss year one of Trump 2.0 (48:25), whether popularity matters to Trump (57:42), and whether Trump has changed the way news is reported (1:13:20). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guests: Susan Glasser and Lindsay Jones Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 21, 20261h 27m

The FBI Seizes a Reporter’s Laptop, and National Championship Storylines. Plus: CNN’s Abby Phillip!

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the FBI raid of a Washington Post reporter that resulted in her laptop and phone being seized (01:08), and how journalists need to protect their information under Trump 2.0. Then, Joel gets a chance to give his take on the Lynn Jones–Jacksonville Jaguars press conference saga, including what journalists need to do coming out of this situation (14:07). Next, Bryan and Joel dive into some football notes, including a conundrum surrounding Carson Beck (26:01), Michael Irvin’s new podcast with Netflix (29:59), and Tony Romo’s partial explanation for his poor performance this weekend (32:42). Lastly, the show ends with Joel interviewing CNN’s Abby Phillip about her book on Rev. Jesse Jackson (38:04), her transition from reporter to anchor (57:15), and the future of cable news (1:09:58). All that and more, here on the Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Abby Phillip Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 16, 20261h 24m

The NFL Press Conference Heard ’Round the World, the Tony Romo Problem, and the New California Vulture

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss the controversy coming out of Jacksonville Jaguars coach Liam Coen’s press conference following their elimination from the playoffs (10:28). They acknowledge both sides of this conversation, examine the reactions from beat writers, and break down what role humanity plays in a postgame press conference (20:32). Next, the guys dive into audio from this past weekend’s NFL wild-card playoff games, including what Tony Romo did wrong (35:06) and what Tom Brady did right (45:29). The show wraps up with a look at the new publication raiding the L.A. Times (57:31), and a quick look at Trump’s interactions with the media lately (1:02:40). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 14, 20261h 17m

Dokoupil, Part Deux, and the Death of a Newspaper. Plus, ESPN’s Joe Buck.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel start the show with Part 2 of their analysis of Tony Dokoupil’s first week as the CBS Evening News host (01:02). They dive into the technical difficulties, the quality of the writing, and one thing Bryan and Joel think he did well this week. Next, the guys discuss the death of a Pittsburgh newspaper, and what this means for local news (25:49). After that, Bryan and Joel have a conversation about how to be a successful sports columnist in today’s media age (33:09). The show ends with an interview with ESPN’s Joe Buck, where he talks about his black eye (46:00), his father Jack Buck (49:36), announcing with Troy Aikman (1:00:04), and so much more, here on the Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Joe Buck Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 9, 20261h 29m

Covering Venezuela, CBS’s Anchor Du Jour, and a Pile of Football Audio

Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined by Joel today to discuss the regime change in Venezuela (07:57), including CNN’s coverage of this news. Next, the guys examine the start of the Tony Dokoupil era at CBS News (26:50). They dive into who he is, why he was picked, and more. Then, Bryan and Joel take a look at CBS News’ newly released values (36:27) before giving their takes on the 60 Minutes story Bari Weiss spiked (45:03). Today’s show is rounded out by some football audio from this past weekend (49:45) and a conversation about NFL announcers’ side hustles (1:00:31). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and Joel Anderson Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 7, 20261h 18m

The Holiday Mailbag Episode

Hello, media consumers! Today's episode is a special holiday mailbag episode wherein Bryan and Joel answer your questions, as well as some they have for each other. The show starts out with a discussion about what media they enjoy in their free time (02:29) before they dive into questions like “What was the most overcovered story this year?” (12:06), “What publication would you bring back from the grave?” (24:16), and “What are your favorite book finds of the last five years?” (40:45). All that and more, here on The Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 29, 202556 min

The People Who Shaped the Media in 2025

Hello, media consumers! Today’s episode is a special year-end edition of The Press Box where Bryan is joined not only by David but by Joel as well! Bryan, David, and Joel come together to discuss the 12 people who shaped the media in 2025, in no particular order. The show starts out with Joel and David meeting each other for the first time, followed immediately by a dive into the first person on their list (02:47). The guys execute a three-man weave, discussing and sharing their thoughts on the 12 people they think shaped the media in 2025, including Donald Trump, Pablo Torre, and Bari Weiss. The show ends with Bryan, David, and Joel giving some 2026 predictions (1:41:58). All that and more, here on The Press Box. No. 1 - (02:47) No. 2 - (11:02) No. 3 - (18:10) No. 4 - (24:58) No. 5 - (38:22) No. 6 - (52:57) No. 7 - (1:03:21) No. 8 - (1:11:49) No. 9 - (1:23:05) No. 10 - (1:27:26) No. 11 - (1:33:53) No. 12 - (1:36:00) Hosts: Bryan Curtis, David Shoemaker, and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 22, 20251h 47m

More Susie Wiles Fallout, YouTube and the Oscars, and Another Round of Jolabokaflod

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel come together today to celebrate Jolabokaflod! They open their Jolabokaflod gifts for each other before discussing President Donald Trump’s intense TV speech from last night (09:01). Next, Joel gets a chance to share his thoughts on Vanity Fair’s big new feature on Trump’s chief of staff, Susie Wiles (16:11). Next, the guys dive into the Sherrone Moore–Michigan saga and give their thoughts on Adam Schefter's take on the situation (29:15). Following that, Bryan and Joel examine how a video made by Senator Mark Kelly ricocheted from Stephen Miller’s X account to the Pentagon (38:16). The show ends with the guys' reactions to the Oscars' move to YouTube (46:04). Plus, a few more Only-in-Podcasting clichés on our way out the door for the holidays. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 18, 202556 min

Trump’s Chief of Staff Speaks, Reporting on Rob Reiner’s Killing, and a Jolabokaflod Book Exchange

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David come together today to celebrate Jolabokaflod! The show opens with David opening his gifts from Bryan before they dive into their thoughts on Vanity Fair’s big new feature on Trump’s chief of staff, Susie Wiles (13:03). Next, the guys listen to some of this past weekend's football audio, with a touch of some wrestling audio at the end (23:33). After that, Bryan and David examine the way the media reported on the homicide of Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner, followed by Trump’s response to Reiner's death (32:44). The show ends with today’s Notebook Dump, where they comb through mullets in journalism (47:51). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 17, 20251h 5m

Trump and CNN’s Fate, Another Telos-Novela, and the New Diddy Documentary

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel start the show by discussing the future of CNN, including President Trump’s possible involvement in its sale, the assurances David Ellison reportedly made to Trump if he bought it, and what an Ellison-owned CNN would look like (01:10). Next, the guys talk about the Laura Rutledge—Justin Herbert post-game situation, and Bryan explains how he would fix the post-game interview (13:25). Then, Bryan and Joel dissect Part 5 of Ryan Lizza’s Telos-Novela (29:02), before giving their takes on the media outrage towards the College Football Playoff bracket (39:46). Lastly, the show ends with Bryan and Joel diving into their thoughts on the new Diddy documentary, 'Sean Combs: The Reckoning.' (50:23) Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 12, 20251h 13m

CNN’s Fate, Trump’s Naughty List, Being Mad at the College Football Playoff, and Only in (Podcast) Journalism

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David start the show by discussing Olivia Nuzzi and Vanity Fair parting ways as her contract ends, what this means for Ryan Lizza’s Substack, and whether Nuzzi will ever get another mainstream media job. Next, the guys dive into the Warner Brothers–Netflix–Paramount situation by breaking down the possible outcomes (15:28), before asking whether CNN would be better off on its own or under the Paramount umbrella (21:02). After that, Bryan and David analyze this year’s College Football Playoff bracket and the role that ESPN’s weekly ‘College Football Rankings Show’ now plays in the sport itself (23:53). Lastly, the show ends with talk of the White House’s newly launched webpage, which shames news outlets and reporters that publish stories it disagrees with (39:54). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, Only in Podcast Journalism, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 9, 202559 min

The American Canto Book Club, ESPN and Lane Kiffin, and Covering the NFL During the Holidays

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel start the show with their thoughts on Olivia Nuzzi’s newly released book, 'American Canto,' including what they did and did not like about it. Bryan gives a short summary of the book before asking Joel questions not only about 'American Canto', but about what the future holds for Nuzzi now that the book is out. Next, Bryan and Joel dive into the Lane Kiffin—Ole Miss situation(53:45), and whether Jimmy Sexton and CAA had involvement in a certain 'College GameDay' segment this week (1:02:40). Lastly, the show rounds out with the guys’ thoughts on Paul Finebaum deciding to not run for U.S. Senate, and their takeaways from Erin Andrews’s message to sports media hopefuls (01:08:19). All that and so much more, here on the Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 5, 20251h 21m

The December Issue: Can The New Yorker Survive Another Century?

Hello, media consumers! Welcome to the first in a monthly series of special episodes in which we take an in-depth look at a single subject and then interview a guest to help us understand that subject. This month’s subject is The New Yorker magazine and our guest is its editor, David Remnick. This month’s issue kicks off with a discussion between Bryan and David about Netflix’s new documentary on The New Yorker, ‘The New Yorker at 100,’ including what they both liked (02:54) and disliked about it (11:43). Next, they recall their first interactions with The New Yorker (16:08) and then dive into the history of the magazine (22:31). Bryan and David then contemplate some questions about the magazine, including, “If you were stuck on a desert island, whose New Yorker collected works would you pick?” (29:36), “What is your favorite New Yorker cover?” (36:31), "What movie or TV show to come out of The New Yorker would you pick?” (45:20), and more. David and Bryan finish their discussion by asking “Can The New Yorker survive another century?”(59:21). The December Issue winds down with an interview with New Yorker editor David Remnick (1:11:17). He and Bryan discuss what it was like having a documentary crew around while he worked, what kind of news outlet he wants The New Yorker to be (1:15:43), how much he wants the magazine to be about the city (1:29:45), and so much more, here on the Press Box. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guest: David Remnick Producer: Bruce Baldwin Additional Production Support: Conor Nevins and Ben Cruz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 1, 20251h 52m

Bob Costas Remembers ... the Great NFL Pregame Wars

Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined today by broadcasting legend Bob Costas to discuss the great NFL pregame wars of the 1980s and 1990s. They dive into everything, starting with him becoming the host of NBC’s pregame show in 1984. Next, they discuss Bob’s competition before turning to what made NBC’s show special (07:42). They continue by going through Bob’s pregame costars and his memories from working with them (26:042). Lastly, the show wraps up with Bob explaining why he stepped back from the pregame desk (43:36). All that and so much more, here on The Press Box. Host: Bryan Curtis Guest: Bob Costas Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 26, 202553 min

New News About Nuzzi, and Mamdani Goes to Washington. Plus: Susan Orlean on Breaking Into The New Yorker, Working for Tina Brown, and More.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss Bryan’s newest Texas barbecue adventure before diving into the most recent news in the ever-evolving Olivia Nuzzi saga, including their thoughts on Ryan Lizza’s second Substack piece and whether this story has reached the point of “feeling like you know too much” (09:49). Next, the guys dive into everything that came out of the meeting between Zohran Mamdani and President Trump in the Oval Office (24:11). Lastly, the show ends with today’s Notebook Dump, where journalist and author Susan Orlean joins the show to discuss her start at The New Yorker, working for Tina Brown, and much more (36:03). Plus, an Only in Journalism first, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guest: Susan Orlean Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 25, 20251h 20m

Trump’s “Piggy” Attack, MLB’s TV Deal, and Joel’s Nuzzi Take. Plus: Mamdani Advisor Zara Rahim

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss President Trump's recent interactions with the media, including his “piggy” comment, his meeting in the Oval Office with Mohammed bin Salman, and his comments on the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Next, the guys parse through MLB’s new media rights deal with NBC, ESPN, and Netflix (18:32). Later, Brian and Joel examine Netflix’s newly released broadcast lineup for their Christmas Day NFL games (24:16), before Joel gives his take on the whole Olivia Nuzzi situation (27:24). The show ends with the next installment of 25 for 25 as Zara Rahim joins to talk about the strategy behind Zohran Mamdani’s successful mayoral campaign, her relationship with Mamdani, and changes in democratic messaging over time (37:11). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Zara Rahim Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 21, 20251h 27m

Olivia Nuzzi, Ryan Lizza, and the Frenzied Rollout of 'American Canto'

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David dive into everything Olivia Nuzzi, starting with Jacob Bernstein’s New York Times piece, including what was said in his profile of Nuzzi and whether this is the right kind of profile for her. Next, they discuss the excerpt of Nuzzi’s book, 'American Canto,' released in Vanity Fair and whether the writing in this excerpt is “good” (25:44). Afterward, Bryan and David react to the bombshell claim by Ryan Lizza (Nuzzi’s ex- fiancé) that RFK Jr. isn't the only presidential candidate she has had a relationship with (40:40). Lastly, the show ends with the guys giving their thoughts on Marjorie Taylor Greene’s about-face on Trump (59:46). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 19, 20251h 12m

The New Epstein Emails, Pat McAfee and Donald Trump, and the Nico Harrison 'Now They Tell Us.' Plus: NBC’s Cris Collinsworth.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss what is in the newly released Jeffrey Epstein emails, how this information paints journalism, and the Michael Wolff of it all. Next, Bryan and Joel analyze President Trump’s appearance on The Pat McAfee Show, including how the show received him, the topics they covered, and how this interview reflects on the modern ESPN content ecosystem (17:02). Then, Bryan and Joel dive into Nico Harrison’s inevitable firing by the Dallas Mavericks (34:14). The show ends with the next installment of 25 for 25 as Cris Collinsworth joins to talk about the differences between Al Michaels and Mike Tirico, owning Pro Football Focus, and his time in talk radio. (47:48). Plus, Joel brings us to J School! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Cris Collinsworth Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 14, 20251h 37m

MSNBC’s Rebrand, ESPN’s Solitaire Scandal, and James Talarico’s Friends. Plus: The Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss Texas Senate hopeful James Talarico’s social media scandal and how the public reaction to this type of news has changed over time. Next, Bryan and David dive into MSNBC’s rebrand as MSNOW and how effective the rebrand rollout has been (10:18). Then, Bryan and David talk about the ESPN Solitaire debacle (13:53) before discussing the layoffs at Conde Nast following a confrontation with the company’s head of human resources (20:04). Lastly, the show ends with the next installment of 25 for 25, as the Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel joins to talk about Elon Musk, public media trust, and his new podcast, Galaxy Brain (32:54). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guest: Charlie Warzel Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 11, 20251h 11m

The Democrats’ Big Night and ESPN’s New Bookie. Plus: Booger McFarland on Alabama-LSU, Playing Dirty, and More.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss everything coming out of election night, including how the big news stations covered it, where Steve Kornacki has gone, how conservatives are coping, and the New York Post’s Mamdani headline. Next, Bryan and Joel dive into ESPN and DraftKings’ new partnership and ESPN Bet being no more (21:47), before talking about Drew Brees returning to the announcer booth (25:25) and Teen Vogue going by the wayside (32:52). The shows ends with the next installment of 25 for 25 as Booger McFarland joins to talk about Alabama-LSU, playing dirty, and the departure of head coach Brian Kelly (46:06). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Booger McFarland Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 6, 20251h 21m

Last-Minute Election Stories, Trump Goes on ‘60 Minutes,’ and (Another) White House Reporter Caper

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and a returning David discuss Dick Cheney’s death by reviewing his relationship to the press (12:20), before diving into last-minute election stories covering the final days of Zohran Mamdani’s campaign, California's Prop 50, and a fake Bill de Blasio (33:10). Next, Bryan and David talk about everything that came out of Trump’s newest interview with CBS’s ‘60 Minutes,’ what CBS chose to air, and the Bari Weiss of it all (42:24). Lastly, Bryan and David dive through some NFL audio and share their thoughts on the return of a certain football podcast (1:00:02). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 4, 20251h 10m

CBS’s Halloween "Bloodbath" and Michael Jordan as the NBA's Ombudsman. Plus: Vox’s Astead Herndon on Leaving The New York Times and the Future of the Democrats.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the layoffs at CBS News (0:51) before diving into their thoughts on Michael Jordan’s two appearances on NBC thus far (14:05), the NBA's relationship to storytelling, and what they want from these MJ appearances. Next, Bryan and Joel educate the listeners on Jennifer Welch (28:41), including where she originally grabbed the spotlight, what she does, and where she fits in the modern political media ecosystem. They end the show with the next installment of 25 for 25 as Vox’s Astead Herndon joins to talk about leaving The New York Times and the future of the Democrats (47:13). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Astead Herndon Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 31, 20251h 35m

ESPN’s Gamble, CBS and John Dickerson, and Graham Platner’s Reddit Posts

Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined by Joel out of the bullpen to dig through everything that has come out of the NBA’s gambling scandal (0:40) before they share their thoughts on how ESPN handled the coverage of that news, who at the worldwide leader should be covering these stories, which former ESPN employees would have covered this in the past, and more. Next, Bryan and Joel discuss John Dickerson leaving ‘CBS Evening News’ and what names have been reported to replace him (24:46). Finally, Bryan and Joel break down all the news surrounding Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner (40:55). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and Joel Anderson Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 29, 20251h 13m

How Zohran Mamdani Won the Hearts and Minds of the Media (and New York City)

Bryan and Joel are together in the studio to discuss Zohran Mamdani in the 17th edition of their 25 for 25 series (2:00). They discuss Mamdani as a political phenomenon (6:12), a media phenomenon (21:03), and someone who is signaling generation change (25:55). Later they welcome Eric Lach of The New Yorker, who profiled Mamdani for the magazine. Lach discusses what he learned from Mamdani after speaking with him (34:22). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Eric Lach Producer: Brian H. Waters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 23, 20251h 0m

An NBA TV Mega-Preview, Good News About The Washington Post, and Your Favorite NFL Clichés

An NBA TV Mega-Preview, Good News About The Washington Post, and Your Favorite NFL Clichés Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are back to discuss the worst response issued by the White House to a reporter's question, some good news about The Washington Post, and issues at Indiana University’s student newspaper (00:35). The two then dig into their NBA mega-preview! They talk about the return of ‘NBA on NBC Sports,’ including Mike Tirico's return to calling NBA games and the network's new broadcast format, "On the Bench," (20:00). They also get into why it’s exciting that Dirk Nowitzki is making his debut as an analyst with Amazon and that Ian Eagle finally became a no. 1 play-by-play announcer (25:34). To wrap the preview, Bryan and David wonder how ‘Inside the NBA’ will translate to ESPN and whether the network can finally develop a no. 1 announce team (31:44). They then dig into the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week before diving into some favorite NFL clichés (35:45). The two close with David's guess for this week’s Strained-Pun Headline. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 21, 202557 min

Zohran Mamdani Goes on Fox News, the Great Pentagon Walkout, and Awkward NFL Coach Audio

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the almost entirely unanimous media walkout at the Pentagon after new rules and guidelines were presented to reporters (0:48); Olivia Nuzzi's return, which will now include a book deal (19:52); and Zohran Mamdani's interview with Fox News' Martha MacCallum (26:22). Then they discuss some awkward NFL head coach audio (0:00), before beginning a list of football clichés (40:00) and closing the show with J-School (52:03). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 16, 20251h 7m

Bari Weiss’s Memo, Marc Maron’s Goodbye, and College Football’s Most Interesting Coach

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are back to discuss Bari Weiss’s memo to her new employees and whether it is threatening. Then they talk about Marc Maron’s farewell podcast with Barack Obama. The two discuss Obama’s social media reluctance and why he isn’t he speaking out more (00:21). They also play the football audio of the week: Indiana coach Curt Cignetti as a Dan Jenkins character, Kurt Warner’s disbelief about the Broncos-Jets game, Adam Amin’s indulgence in Only in Journalism, and Tua Tagovailoa throwing his team under the bus (18:00). Next, they get into the worst questions asked at the White House, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and the latest edition of They’re Running: JB Pritzker edition (36:48). To wrap, they get into the latest on Pentagon press access, a Media Piss Test, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline (44:53). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 13, 202557 min

Jen Psaki on the Democrats and the Future of MSNBC. Plus, Paul Finebaum vs. ESPN and the End of LeBron’s Media Headlock

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel cover LeBron’s “big” news, Paul Finebaum a week after his OutKick interview, yet another Bill Belichick story out of UNC, and a bizarre Katie Porter interview (0:45). Then Joel and Bryan talk with MSNBC's Jen Psaki about the Democratic Party, how politicians can effectively communicate their message, modernizing White House press briefings, the future of cable news, and more (44:18). Finally they close the show with some J-School (1:15:16).Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Jen PsakiProducers: Kyle Crichton and Brian Waters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 9, 20251h 31m

Bari Weiss’s First Day at CBS, Reporting on Mark Sanchez, and the GOAT-dom of Chris Berman

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are back to discuss America’s Softest Target, why they’re sitting out of Taylor Swift discourse, and Bari Weis’ first day as editor in chief of CBS News. They get into the particulars of who Weiss is reporting to, what will her version of CBS News look like, and what it means that just 28% of Americans have a fair amount of trust in newspapers, television and radio. Then they get into the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and the reporting around Mark Sanchez’s arrest this weekend, They also share some football audio from this weekend, including Eric Collins’ first football game, and Greg Olson using an “only in journalism” phrase. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 6, 20251h 5m

The Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates Showdown, Floating Paul Finebaum for Senate, and the Meaning of Kamala’s Book Sales

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel take a deep dive into the spirited discussion between Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates centered on their disagreements about Charlie Kirk and some of his eulogists (1:27). Then they discuss the unexpected news that ESPN's Paul Finebaum is considering running as a Republican senator for Alabama, the numbers for Kamala Harris's book, WaPo's new opinion section, and more (33:21). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 2, 20251h 20m

A 25 for 25 Double Feature: Dean Jelani Cobb on the Future of J-School. Plus, Spencer Hall on “Weird Internet.”

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel preview today’s double-feature episode (0:45), before Joel is joined by Columbia Journalism School dean Jelani Cobb to discuss the future of journalism education (7:44). Then, Bryan and Joel have a quick interview postgame (47:42) before introducing Joel’s conversation with writer Spencer Hall on how his remarkable career has intersected with the “weird internet” (59:07). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuests: Jelani Cobb and Spencer HallProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 1, 20251h 47m

A Report From the Cowboys-Packers Tie, the Rise of the Bernie Bio, and Barbecue Notes From Texas

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are back to discuss Bryan’s quick trip to Dallas for the Micah Parsons return game. He lets you in on the dirty secret of football reporting, gets into the differences between the Micah trade and the Luka Doncic trade, and gives some barbecue reviews (00:24). Then they share some football audio from the weekend, including Gus Johnson’s call of an Illinois running back fumbling just as he was about to reach the end zone and a sideline interview gone wrong with Bears coach Ben Johnson (11:10). The two also get into the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, Bernie Sanders entering biography status, and Leonardo DiCaprio going viral over what his manager wanted his name changed to (33:05). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 29, 202554 min

Jimmy Kimmel’s Return, the Fox-Barstool College Football Experiment, and Kamala’s Book Tour. Plus: Noah Eagle.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the return of 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' on Tuesday night (0:46) before reexamining the Fox-Barstool college football experiment and Kamala Harris's book tour (25:50). Finally, they are joined by NBC's Noah Eagle to discuss the highly anticipated Oregon–Penn State matchup this Saturday, capturing wacky finishes in the broadcast booth, his play-by-play strategy as the game of football evolves, and broadcasters in suits vs. quarter zips (49:30). Then Joel conducts a hard-hitting Lightning Round (1:08:20). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Noah Eagle Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 25, 20251h 22m

Fear After the Jimmy Kimmel Suspension, the Return of Olivia Nuzzi, and Presidential Campaign of Andy Beshear

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss Vanity Fair hiring Olivia Nuzzi after she parted ways with New York magazine last year, continue untangling the Jimmy Kimmel situation, discuss the new rules for covering the Pentagon, and more (00:26). Then they share some football audio from the weekend, including Joe Davis’s call of Eagles defensive tackle Jordan Davis’s touchdown, Gus Johnson’s ultra-specific statistic during the Auburn-Oklahoma game, and Tulsa coach Tre Lamb's comments after his team dismantled Oklahoma State (31:27). In the notebook, the two discuss Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear's Presidential campaign (40:59). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 22, 20251h 4m

Jimmy Kimmel Is Suspended, Molly Qerim Leaves ESPN, and Ivan Maisel on the Cult of the College Football Coach

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss ABC's decision to indefinitely suspend 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' (0:46), why The Washington Post fired columnist Karen Attiah, Molly Qerim's abrupt departure from ESPN, Tom Brady's glaring conflict of interest, and more (38:32). Then Bryan is joined by sports journalist and author Ivan Maisel to discuss his new book, 'American Coach: The Triumph and Tragedy of Notre Dame Legend Frank Leahy' (59:22). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Ivan MaiselProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 18, 20251h 32m

Our Broken Media Ecosystem, Replay Reviews for Everyone, and Lachlan Cartwright of Breaker

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David examine the ways in which information about Charlie Kirk's killing has come out to the public (0:20), before they share some audio from the weekend in football, including Pat McAfee's rousing 'College GameDay' monologue, some instant replay insight from Clemson–Georgia Tech, the tush push getting on everyone's nerves again, and more (14:17). Finally, Bryan and David are joined by the founder of Breaker, Lachlan Cartwright, to discuss a slew of media topics, including Puck's expected acquisition of Air Mail, concerns from people at CBS News about Bari Weiss's new role, Lachlan Murdoch retaining control of Fox and News Corp, and more (30:25). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guest: Lachlan Cartwright Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 15, 202551 min

The Killing of Charlie Kirk, the Murdochs’ Real-Life Succession, and Three More Years of ‘Pardon the Interruption’

Bryan and Joel discuss the whirlwind of coverage around the killing of Charlie Kirk (1:13) before they give updates on the Trump vs. The Wall Street Journal saga (23:32), the extension for ESPN's 'Pardon the Interruption' (29:59), Rupert Murdoch's succession plan (38:54), the reporter caught in the middle of the college football AP poll outrage (44:50), and Adam Silver's puzzling comments about NBA viewers (53:52). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 11, 20251h 1m

NFL Opening Weekend Audio, the CBS News Blues, and Our Review of ‘The Paper’

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss news from CBS News, including more issues with edited interviews and Bari Weiss’s reported arrival (0:20). Then, they get into a tense moment on ‘Get Up!’ between Ryan Clark and Peter Schrager, some audio from NFL Week 1, J.J. Watt’s broadcast debut, and more (12:28). They also share their thoughts on the new Peacock series ‘The Paper’, a puzzling news story about the Treasury Secretary, and more (37:33). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 8, 202553 min

Eagles-Cowboys Audio and the Hock Heard Round the World. Plus, a New 25 for '25 With ESPN’s Domonique Foxworth.

Hello media consumers! Joel and Bryan discuss some of their many takeaways from the Eagles-Cowboys NFL opener (5:35), and a NFL TV preview covering Mike Tirico's first Super Bowl, the RedZone ad crisis, Tom Brady's second year at FOX, and J.J. Watt moving to the CBS booth (22:44). Then in a new edition of 25 for '25, Joel talks with Domonique Foxworth about the future of player media! They discuss Domonique's career path from player to sports business to sports media, the changing relationship with current players and journalists/media members, the "nerdification" of football coverage, what he has learned about debate shows, and more (40:18). Finally, Bryan and Joel close the show by reconnecting for a brief interview postgame (1:35:37). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 5, 20251h 45m

The Cloudy Future of 'Inside the NBA,' Gavin Newsom Could Run for President Like Marshawn Lynch, and More Tortured Acronyms

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David share some notes from Lee Corso's emotional 'College GameDay' sign-off and a new edition of "Manning face" (0:20), before they react to some sounds from the weekend in college football, including Florida State's upset win over Alabama and Bill Belichick and UNC's blowout loss to TCU. They also get into Charles Barkley's important questions about 'Inside the NBA' on ESPN, Cam Newton vs. Stephen A. and introduce a new segment that aims to follow the many Democrats who could run for president in 2028 (7:40). Finally, they discuss Jerry Jones's decision to trade Micah Parsons away from the Dallas Cowboys before seemingly forgetting his name, a final Cracker Barrel update, a Media Piss Test, and some more tortured acronym nominations (32:15). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 3, 202558 min

Doris Burke's Demotion, a Massive College Football TV Preview, and Adam Friedland's Star Turn

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel begin today’s show with J-School, talking about Cam Newton’s new expanded role at ESPN and some criticisms of the Cowboys documentary. Then they dive into the headlines, discussing Doris Burke’s demotion at ESPN (13:58), a mega college football TV preview (21:51), and much more.Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 28, 20251h 7m

Ohio State and Barstool, the Great Film Critic Shortage, and the MS NOW Acronym Challenge. Plus: Michael M. Grynbaum on the Past and Future of Condé Nast.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David open up the show by talking about Rich Eisen’s return to the 'SportsCenter' desk. Then they discuss a report that Dave Portnoy was banned from Ohio Stadium (6:17) and talk about the state of local film critics (16:50). They also check in on their MS NOW challenge (31:28) and run through the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week before Bryan is joined by Michael M. Grynbaum of The New York Times. They discuss his new book: 'Empire of the Elite: Inside Condé Nast, the Media Dynasty That Reshaped America.' They talk about the history and future of Condé Nast, the company that owns Vogue, Vanity Fair, and The New Yorker (45:54). Finally, David guesses the Strained Pun Headline of the Week (1:18:57)!Hosts: Bryan Cutis and David ShoemakerGuest: Michael M. GrynbaumProducer: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 26, 20251h 25m