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This week the Republican (Jay) and the RINO (Trey) take over the show. The pair start discussing the Supreme Court's refusal to uphold the lower court stay on the Texas abortion ban. Next they discuss the political and ideology of the Supreme Court and the recently released draft findings of the Biden Supreme Court Commission. Next, they move to foreign policy and the recent war of words between Biden and Taiwan. The pair close the show with a discussion of Manchin's threat to be willing to go with $0 of new federal spending. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go topatreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike talks with Eric Posner, the Kirkland and Ellis Distinguished Service Professor of Law at the University of Chicago, about his latest book, How Antitrust Failed Workers. In this discussion, they cover: monopolies and monopsonies labor market concentration why there are so few labor-focused antitrust actions important differences between labor markets and product markets the use and abuse of non-compete and no poaching agreements how antitrust law can be used to help workers and lots more The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike & Jay open the show with a discussion of the 5th Circuit overturning a federal district court judge and allowing Texas’ abortion law to remain in effect. Neither Mike nor Jay believe the law is constitutional according to current precedents, but Texas’ clever crafting of the law has made it more difficult for federal courts to enjoin it. Jay wonders when there will be a high profile case with a non-state defendant, which would circumvent the “you can’t sue Texas because Texas isn’t directly enforcing the law” argument. Mike points out that even if the law is eventually overturned it will have achieved in part what many pro-life advocates hoped for — making it much more difficult for women to terminate their pregnancies, at least for a time. Next is a look at a bunch of economic data on jobs, job switching, unemployment, and inflation. Mike sees the economic news as mixed, but believes that current inflationary pressures are temporary and that it’s a good thing that workers have greater leverage to demand higher pay. Jay is less optimistic about inflation in particular, and is more willing than Mike to attribute much of what we’re seeing to overly-generous government support. Mike admits that Jay will almost certainly end up right in his 2021 year end inflation prediction (Jay predicted around 5%, Mike thought it would be closer to the 2% range), but Mike then decides to make even more predictions - that the CPI will be under 4% by mid April of 2022 and under 3% by July of 2022. Jay thinks both numbers will be higher than that. Finally, they consider the minimum wage in light of this year’s Nobel Prize in Economics going to economist David Card, who is most well known for his work on the minimum wage. Mike points to a considerable body of research suggesting that the conventional wisdom viewing minimum wage hikes are “job killers” is, if not entirely incorrect, at least somewhat overstated. Jay isn’t as convinced, and while he agrees that there probably should be a wage floor, the federal minimum wage shouldn’t be raised. Mike Recommendation The Chair (Netflix) Jay’s Recommendation Jay’s amicus brief to the Ohio Supreme Court on unemployment insurance benefits. (Only 12 pages - totally worth checking out to witness Jay doing his “real job” thing.) The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Trey & Mike open the show with the recently passed debt resolution keeping the government open until December 3. The two pick up where Mike & Jay left off last week on the topic of the debt ceiling and its historic origin. Further the two discuss predictions for what December may hold. Next, they discuss the interconnected issues of Whistleblower Frances Haugen and the recent revelations about Facebook by the Wall Street Journal. Mike has a fairly pessimistic view of any change while Trey sees the possibility for reform in changes to privacy forcing business changes. Finally, it's time to talk about the recent Federal District Court injunction on Texas' abortion ban. Both hosts agree the mechanism is flawed. Trey is more supportive of a broader conception of life and personhood, but Trey & Mike agree that Congress could take a larger role. In this topic they also discuss the forgotten potential importance of the 9th and 10th Amendments and Trey argues the nature of Constitutional Amendments made future one's more difficult. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go topatreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike & Jay open the show with a look at the last minute continuing resolution that keeps the government going until early December, as well as prospects for a default when the debt ceiling is reached on or around October 18. Mike agrees with Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen that the debt ceiling should be eliminated (or at least set at one quattuordecillion dollars), whereas Jay believes it’s a useful speed-bump that might help to provide some small measure of fiscal responsibility. Next, they discuss the fate of two massive intertwined bills - the $1 trillion infrastructure bill and the $3.5 trillion budget resolution. Mike & Jay stick with their predictions that both will eventually pass, and while Jay sees this as a sign that the progressives are in charge of the House, Mike argues that progressives will end up with a whole lot less than they hoped for. Finally, it’s an examination of presidential approval. With President Biden's approval rating underwater, Donald Trump has been sounding and acting more and more like a 2024 presidential hopeful. While it's a long way until the next presidential election, right now Trump is the Republican with the best odds according to Sports Betting Dime. After Trump, it's Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pence. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, on a very special Politics Guys, Mike and Jay talk cancel culture, shared values, and why they started the show. Listen with the whole family. Then its the COVID update, and when is it OK for a political appointee to challenge "The Science"? And the immigration mess — the Senate Parliamentarian reaches the conclusion that overhauling immigration policy is a policy change, and down in the west Texas town of Del Rio, 30,000 Haitian immigrants don't have to go home, but they can't stay here (or can they?) The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's show Trey is joined by Ken. The duo discuss COVID vaccine efficacy in light of last weeks show's disagreement between Kristin and Trey. The pair also talk AUKUS, the technology sharing agreement between the U.S., the U.K. and Australia. Finally, the two discuss the upcoming moderate Freedom to Vote Act and the excerpts from the upcoming book Peril. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go topatreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week’s show, Mike and Kristin are joined by Trey. They discuss the Biden Administration’s sweeping vaccine mandates as well as the DOJ suing Texas over its most recent abortion ban. Finally, the three hosts look back on 9/11 and 20 years of policy since - as well as the future of Afghanistan and the ramifications of Taliban leadership there. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Mike & Jay start off by discussing the Supreme Court’s refusal to halt Texas’ new abortion law, the strictest in the nation. They both agree that the law has serious constitutional problems, but Jay believes the majority got the ruling right, and that the correct course is to let things play out in the lower courts. Mike sees this as the Court’s conservatives (minus Chief Justice Roberts) allowing a blatantly unconstitutional law to go into effect. The focus stays on Texas for a look at the state’s new voting law. Mike takes issue with a number of provisions that he believes will suppress likely Democratic votes and have little to connection to election security. Jay thinks that the law is mostly a good thing, pointing out that many of the provisions being rolled back were only put in place in response to the pandemic. They close with a discussion of Afghanistan. Mike points out that there’s something to President Biden’s argument about how difficult it is to withdraw in the face of enemy forces, and says that some Americans would have been left behind initially in almost any withdrawal scenario. Jay doesn’t disagree, but argues that this reality wasn’t initially acknowledged by President Biden, and that he broke his promise that the US would stay in Afghanistan until all Americans who wanted out of the country got out. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Ken open the show with a discussion of the situation in Afghanistan. Ken believes the withdrawal has gone very well all things considered, but is at least open to the argument that withdrawing might not have been the right call. Mike is similarly conflicted about withdrawing, but feels that the Biden administration has botched the withdrawal. After that they turn to FDA approval of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine and what it might mean for future vaccine mandates. Neither Mike nor Ken things we’ll see a surge of public sector mandates unless there’s a significant upswing in the COVID death toll. Mike wonders if it might be possible for President Biden to essentially mandate vaccines in higher education by cutting federal funds (including student loan money) to institutions that don’t comply. Following that is discussion of the $3.5 trillion budget blueprint passed by the House. It’s being called a victory of sorts for Democratic moderates, but Ken sees it as a PR win for what he terms the “House Narcissist Caucus”. Mike emphasizes the sweeping nature of the budget proposal and his general approval of all that it seeks to do. Both Mike and Ken expect a slimmed down version of the proposal, along with the bipartisan infrastructure bill, to end up on President Biden’s desk before too long. Finally, Mike & Ken discuss the Supreme Court’s ruling that the CDC exceeded its authority in declaring an eviction moratorium. They both disagree with the ruling, but Ken in particular sees at least some merit in the majority’s opinion. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Its been a tough week. Mike and Jay discuss the Afghanistan debacle and how we get our people, and the people who risked their lives to help us, to safety. Then it's the state of COVID--booster shots, breakthroughs, and Biden. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week’s show, Mike and Kristin talk about the politics of COVID, FL Gov. DeSantis and his latest executive orders, and the latest vaccine studies. They also discuss the Senate’s passage of the $3.5T budget proposal and objections from the GOP and moderate Democrats as the proposal will face scrutiny later this year. Kristin’s Recommendations Shop App The Salisbury Poisonings Mike’s Recommendations Bosch The Varieties of Religious Experience. William James The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike & Jay kick off the episode with a discussion of the CDC’s eviction moratorium. Jay thinks it’s clearly unconstitutional whereas Mike feels that it’s only just barely unconstitutional. Following that, they get into rising COVID numbers and whether Florida governor Ron DeSantis is putting his presidential ambitions ahead of the health of Floridians. Then it’s a look at the almost certain to be passed bipartisan infrastructure deal. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Trey is joined by Jay. They start the show discussing the recent developments in the January 6 Committee, but they disagree over its importance. Jay considers the lack of true Republican representation as a major issue and Trey argues Republicans missed their opportunity to engage. They also disagree over the extent to which certain Republicans violated their trust with the public. Next the pair talk infrastructure. Trey and Jay both agree that inflation will be the outcome of the continued spending projects when they are not coupled with increased revenues. Finally the pair tackle the most recent COVID updates and argue about the importance of institutional nudges in order to help influence human behavior. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Trey and Ken open the show by discussing Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi striking down two Republican picks for the January 6 commission. Neither disagree with the move, but both speculate about what happens next. Then it's back to the bipartisan infrastructure deal and its merit. Trey isn't sold on another large package and Ken thinks a completely partisan bill is the right thing. Next the pair talk about the Pegasus Project and the balance between digital liberty and law enforcement. Trey and Ken close the show discussing the DOJ's indictment of Chinese hackers. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jay open the show with a discussion of a federal judge ordering a halt to DACA - which they both agree was the right call, although they’d likely support a similar policy were it passed by Congress. Then it’s a discussion of Senate Democrats $3.5 trillion budget framework (pre-framework?), whether Fed Chair Jerome Powell is being too cavalier about inflation (Jay thinks so, Mike disagrees), Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s marijuana decriminalization proposal, and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand’s push to change the way serious crimes in the military are prosecuted. Jay’s (Re)Recommendation The Pioneers. David McCullough Mike’s Recommendation Cancer Ward. Alexander Solzhenitsyn The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Trey joins Mike in a discussion of the-multi state lawsuit against Google alleging anti-competitive practices in the Google Play Store (as Mike takes more than a few shots at Trey’s beloved Apple). They stick with the lawsuit theme as they move to a discussion of Donald Trump’s bizarro-world 1st Amendment argument underpinning his lawsuits against Facebook, Twitter, and Google - an almost certain loser in court, but maybe not as a fund-raising tactic. Finally, they look at President Biden’s expansive order on competition. If you’re interested in a deeper dive on declining American competitiveness, you might want to check out Thomas Philippon’s book The Great Reversal: How America Gave up on Free Markets, and listen to Mike’s interview with Professor Philippon (March 2020). Mike’s Recommendations A.P. Bio The Power of the Dog and The Cartel. Don Winslow Trey’s Recommendation Assassin’s Creed Syndicate The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week’s show, Mike and Kristin discuss the recent indictments of the Trump Organization’s embattled CFO and the organization itself, as well as several big legal rulings from earlier in the week. They unpack two SCOTUS decisions, one upholding Arizona voting rules and one striking down donor reporting in California. Finally, Mike and Kristin talk about the dismissal of the federal antitrust suit brought against Facebook. Kristin’s Recommendation Root Nine Baking Company Mike’s (not exactly) Recommendation Consequences of Capitalism. Chomsky & Waterstone The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special midweek episode Trey interviews author Seth David Radwell on his new book American Schism which is coming out this week. The pair discuss the major theme of his book: how the enlightenment informs contemporary American politics. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Buy Radwell's book here. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week's show Trey and Ken start by talking about Biden's proposal to curb crime. The pair get into the stats and whether or not a bold crime push is even a good idea. Then they turn to the New York Mayoral race. Here the talk about rank choice voting and how crime rates may have factored into the primary. Next the pair turn to what Trey calls the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill that wasn't. Did anything really happen? Trey and Ken finish the show examining two U.S. Supreme Court cases, one on student speech rights outside of school grounds and the other on whether the NCAA violated anti-trust laws. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jay this week as the ACA Supreme Court trilogy reaches its thrilling conclusion. As often is the case, the sequels just aren't as good and the Court dismisses for lack of standing. Jay and Mike talk about standing severability and a mandate that really looks unconstitutional but is as toothless as that Abominable Snow Monster at the end of Rudolf. Then — Happy Juneteenth! Mike and Jay agree that our new holiday is good one and discuss why. Next, disco may be dead, but 70s style inflation may be making a comeback. Are the Feds expected rate hikes a drag or just groovy enough for the economy to keep on truckin'? And finally, its back to the Supreme Court where Justice Alito's had a busy week. Religious liberty wins 9-0, but is the Court ducking the question on the free exercise clause? The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys To get 50-80% off luxury apparel, accessories, home goods and more go to OneQuince.com/politicsguys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Trey and Ken talk about Biden on his overseas visit. What is to be gained and what are the optics? Next the pair talk about the future of Biden's agenda. Does Congressional theater work? Should it work? Have the standards been applied evenly to both parties? Then it's off to inflation where Trey argues government spending is leading to unhealthy levels of inflation while Ken argues things are fine as is. Finally the two look at the outcome from the Senate's investigation into the January 6 insurrection. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. To get 50-80% off luxury apparel, accessories, home goods and more go to OneQuince.com/politicsguys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Mike and Jay ignore all advice to the contrary and mess with Texas. Is Texas' new proposed voting law really an "assault on democracy" or just some marginal policy changes? And is walking out on a vote any way to do your job? Speaking of doing your job, why is it so hard to find good (or any) help these days? Mike laments the unfulfilling nature of so many occupations in our post-capitalist moment while Jay says, "Get a damn job." MIT Living Wage Calculator https://livingwage.mit.edu/ Jay’s Recommendation Farnsworth's Classical English Style. Ward Farnsworth The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys To get 50-80% off luxury apparel, accessories, home goods and more go to OneQuince.com/politicsguys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kristin is back! She and Mike tackle the end of the proposed January 6th Commission, Republican Senators blocking the proposal, and some individual Senators’ concerns. They also discuss the COVID lab leak issue and some pressing questions, including whether Trump was right and what the future holds for U.S.-China relations. Finally, Mike and Kristin discuss the bipartisan U.S. Innovation and Competition Act. Kristin’s Recommendation The Bridge Mike’s Recommendations The Nick Mankey Hook Strap A Secular Age. Charles Taylor The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys To get 50-80% off luxury apparel, accessories, home goods and more go to OneQuince.com/politicsguys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jay open the show with a look at the recently agreed upon cease-fire between Israel and Hamas. They consider whether Israel’s response was disproportionate, where responsibility lies for the current crisis, and what role the United States should play. Following that, they discuss the bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th takeover of the US Capitol. Mike believes it should absolutely happen, while Jay agrees with Donald Trump that it’s a “Democrat trap”. They close with a look at an upcoming Supreme Court case on the right of states to ban all pre-viability abortions. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys To get 50-80% off luxury apparel, accessories, home goods and more go to OneQuince.com/politicsguys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Trey and Ken begin by asking: who controls the Republican Party and is there a place for Cheney like Republicans? The looming question for Trey is if there can remain a place in the Republican Party for non-Trump supporters. Next the pair get technical, and economic, on the colonial pipeline debate. They also discuss the balance of environmentalism with its human cost. Finally, Trey and Ken discuss the dueling proposals from Biden and Republicans on the new red line: no new infrastructure taxes. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. To get 50-80% off luxury apparel, accessories, home goods and more go to OneQuince.com/politicsguys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike, Jay, and Olivia discuss whether Florida’s new voting law is a solution in search of a problem or a reasonable election security measure, COVID vaccination rates and whether waiving intellectual property protections will be an overall benefit, and what Liz Cheney’s all but certain ouster as the #3 House Republican means for the near-term future of the GOP. Mike’s Recommendations For All Mankind and Ted Lasso (Apple+) Olivia’s Recommendations Sharp Objects and The Undoing (HBO Max) Jay’s Recommendation The Pioneers. David McCullough The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How many trillions until it starts adding up to real money? That is Trey's lead question this week when discussing Biden's American Families Plan with Ken. The pair discuss the plan, Biden's speech to a joint session of Congress, and reconciliation. Next the pair move to Monday's early Census 2020 data drop and dive into American by the numbers. Trey and Ken then talk about the support for democratic norms in the wake of the Arizona Senate hiring thee Cyber Ninjas to take on yet another audit of the 2020 presidential election. The two conclude talking about the recent subpoena on Rudy Giuliani and what that might mean for former president Trump. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Mike and Jay this week discussing the Chauvin verdict, the future of policing, and the propriety of elected officials opining on what a jury ought to do. Then Happy Earth Day! Biden promises to cut lots of emissions or something . . . . we'll get the details later. Then a Supreme Court decision we can all agree on. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jay are joined by special guest Mark Marsolais, a veteran of the Houston Police Department who went on to earn his PhD in criminal justice and who now teaches at the college level. They discuss incidents in Brooklyn Center, Windsor, and Chicago and get into police training, conduct, the role of police unions, "the thin blue line", racism in policing, and a lot more. Following that, Mike and Jay talk about President Biden’s announcement that all US forces will be withdrawn from Afghanistan by September 11, 2021 - the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Jay thinks that sends a horrible message and that withdrawing entirely is a mistake. Mike is more conflicted on the issue, but they both agree that in Afghanistan there aren’t any good options. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Reconciliation is back! Trey and Ken talk about the recent Senate parliamentarian ruling on a third budget reconciliation and what it means for Biden's infrastructure bill. Then Trey and Ken argue over progressive taxes and SALT, before agreeing on Biden's recent gun control legislation. Next the pair discuss the long history of vaccine skepticism and its most recent incarnation in the form of COVID passports. Finally they discuss Biden's commission examining the U.S. Supreme Court. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Infrastructurepalooza! Mike and Jay talk about what's in the bill (lots), what's left out (not much), and how the procedure is guiding the substance of the bill. Then Mike and Jay board the midnight train to Georgia to talk election bill specifics, Biden's "hyperbole" (Jay's air quotes), and whether corporations are responding to customer perception or government demands. Finally--March Madness Baby-- as Mike and Jay talk about the NCAA at the Supreme Court and how to make college athletics fair for college athletes. Mike’s Weekly Recommendation Network (1976) and Apocalypse Now (1979) Jay’s Weekly Recommendation Operation Varsity Blues: The College Admissions Scandal (Netflix) The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jay open the episode with a discussion of the mass shooting in Boulder Colorado. Is the same script of “outrage, resistance, inaction” going to play out after this tragedy that we’ve seen so many times before? They also reexamine their discussion of the Georgia mass shooting from last week. Did they downplay the issue of AAPI intolerance? What about violence against women and sex workers? Next is a look at Joe Biden’s first news conference as president, with a focus on voting rights. Biden seems determined to pass voting rights legislation, but can it happen given the filibuster, and will the filibuster be changed? And how important are presidential news conferences anyway? The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jay talk about the mess at the border, where good intentions create bad incentives. Then the Georgia shootings. Are they part of a larger trend of intolerance and violence toward Asians? Should this be viewed through the prism of race? And can anti-Chinese rhetoric be blamed for an increase in hate crimes against Asians? Biden takes a tough line against China. Can a rising China be contained and is there a role for American businesses to play? The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Trey is joined by Ken and the pair start with the Supreme Court case of Uzuegbunam v. Preczewiski. Here the pair discuss the standards the Supreme Court uses to determine if a case ought to be heard and Ken argues the Supreme Court should do away with the concept of mootness. Next the pair discuss the dubious record Biden has set in not holding a press conference. Trey notes his 45 days without a conference is the longest of any modern president in the last 100 years and he suggests the delay may be a new normal. Ken argues Biden's lack of a press conference doesn’t matter as long as competent individuals are running government. After that Trey and Ken discuss not only Biden’s most recent executive order on voting rights, but how it is a reaction to Republicans in state legislatures pushing to make elections more secure. The pair also discus Mike Pence's article on the subject. Finally they examine the recent back and forth between the RNC and Trump over the use of Trump’s name and image in campaign materials. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Trey open the show with a look at final negotiations over the latest COVID relief legislation, in which centrist Senate Democrats - Joe Manchin in particular - forced significant revisions to the House-passed measure. Next, they discuss H.R. 1, the “For The People Act”, which would be the largest federal intervention in election procedures in a very long time. Mike thinks that’s a good thing - both for Democrats and democracy. Trey also generally favors making the system more small-d democratic, but has issues with certain aspects of the legislation. After that they look back on the Conservative Political Action Conference meeting, Donald Trump’s closing night speech, and whether or not the GOP is truly a conservative party any more. The former president was not only the favorite of CPAC attendees, but oddsmakers think he has a good shot at capturing the GOP nomination in 2024. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike talks with Brown University political scientist James Morone about his latest book, Republic of Wrath: How American Politics Turned Tribal, from George Washington to Donald Trump. Topics they cover include: the history of partisan conflict how our current conflicts are different states as “laboratories of authoritarianism the dirty little secret of bipartisanship recommendations for reform The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The show opens with Mike asking Jay to help him understand how Mitch McConnell’s pledge to “absolutely” support Trump if he’s the 2024 Republican nominee squares with McConnell’s blistering denunciation of Trump in the aftermath of the Capitol takeover. Mikes sees it as McConnell putting party over country, whereas Jay believes it’s political strategy that we shouldn’t read all that much into. Next is discussion of the $1.9 trillion COVID relief package passed by the House with no Republican support. Jay wouldn’t have supported it either, believing that it’s too much, especially to states. Mike disagrees and question’s Jay’s commitment to progressive taxation - which, as it turns out, Jay isn’t as committed to as Mike assumed. They move on to the opposition to Neera Tanden’s nomination to be Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). Jay takes issue with claims of racism and sexism, and thinks that it’s reasonable to vote against Tanden. Mike believes that racism and sexism, while not the key factor, may play a role in opposition to Tanden. While he’s troubled by her deleting over a thousand of her tweets Mike believes Tahden would vote to confirm her. The show closes with a look at hearings by the House Energy and Commerce Committee on misinformation in conservative news, as well as letters two Democratic members of the committee sent to a number of service providers. This is of deep concern to Jay, who believes it’s a step down a path that leads to government censorship. Mike isn’t entirely unsympathetic to this view, but feels that in light of the lies many outlets seemed happy to knowingly promulgate so long as they were profitable, some action is reasonable Mike’s Weekly Recommendation Connected: A Search for Unity. (documentary series) Monty Moran Jay’s Weekly Recommendation COVID One Year Ago (Twitter) The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jay talk with Congressman Rob Wittman (R, VA-1), second ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, about the growth in Chinese military strength (they now have the largest navy in the world), the threat posed by China to US interests, Taiwan, military spending, and more. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Trey and Ken talk about the ongoing Republican Civil War between McConnell and Trump and what it means for the future of both the Republican and the Democratic Parties. Then the pair take up the remaining legal fallout for former President Donald Trump after his second impeachment. Next the discussion turns south to the history of energy in Texas and the political posturing on energy policy. Finally, Trey and Ken get heated discussing the importance and implications of the third round of COVID stimulus, with specific focus on the costs. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike, Jay, and special guest-star Olivia talk about week one of Impeachment 2, does the forgone conclusion mean we get a political show trial rather than a deliberative hearing? Then, is there really any chance of moderate (or more accurately non-Trump Republicans) forming a third party? Well, some people had a Zoom call about it, so we discuss. Finally, a criminal investigation of Trump from a Georgia county prosecutor may be less than peachy for a lot of reasons, but should there be a prudential (if not legal) line drawn on what activities of a former president should be subject to prosecution? The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. If you're interested in contributing to our new production computer, there's PayPal or Venmo (on Venmo we're @PoliticsGuys). Thanks! Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jay open the show with a discussion of the latest COVID stimulus talks, including their views on the competing proposals and whether or not either side is negotiating in good faith. Next is a look at the votes on Marjorie Taylor Greene and Liz Cheney, and what they say about the congressional politics and the state of the GOP in 2021. They close by considering the briefs filed by the House impeachment managers and President Trump’s defense team, as well as how they would vote on convicting Donald Trump. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week's episode Trey and Ken discuss Trump's historic second impeachment Senate proceedings, the organization of a divided Senate, the importance of Senator Leahy's health, and finally a heated discussion of executive actions, Biden's executive actions, and the role of executive actions in a Madisonian Constitutional system. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this extended-length episode (it was a big week), Mike and Jay discuss the Biden inauguration, the mass protests that didn’t happen at state capitols, and a flurry of executive actions on the pandemic, immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, and rollbacks of Trump administration orders and regulations. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's show, Mike is joined by both Kristin and Jay as they discuss the Capitol Riot and some of the issues stemming from last week's news, including the reactions of Republicans, the fallout for President Trump, and the implications for national security. They also weigh in on the second impeachment of President Trump and how this issue may seep into politics in the future, even after he has left office. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations BipartisanPolitics (Reddit) Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Trey, Ken and Mike come together talk about Wednesday’s storming of the Capitol. In this focused episode the hosts cover issues including the political ramifications of the violent protest, the culpability of President Trump, the role of social media, the support of attackers, the division between the major political parties, the possibility of impeachment, and the future of the American Presidency. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations BipartisanPolitics (Reddit) Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy New Year and Good Riddance 2020! Mike and Jay talk about President Trump's first and likely last veto override and then on to the politics and economics of stimulus payments. Like the click-bait ads say, the results may surprise you! Then its on to the vaccine rollout, what's working and what's not — and what to do with vaccine skeptics? Finally — we hope — we'll talk about the who has won the 2020 presidential election and Trump's increasingly goofy legal longshots. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations BipartisanPolitics (Reddit) Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's show, the last of 2020, Mike and Kristin discuss the current state of the COVID relief package, which seems to have stalled out in Congress - though the outlook is favorable for the week ahead. They also weigh in on the recent Russian hacking story, as well as moving one step further towards a Biden presidency and the resignation of Attorney General Bill Barr. Mike’s Weekly Recommendation The Things Trump Got Right (David Frum) BipartisanPolitics (Reddit) Lock Laces Kristin’s Weekly Recommendation Ugly Delicious (Netflix) The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Jay and Mike this week, as the Supreme Court harpoons the Kracken (which in a weird mixed-metaphor arose from the fairly dry climes of Texas). But Mike is still concerned over the number of apparent Kracken believers. Then the vaccine is approved and is the FDA really a big, old slow turtle? And everyone and their friends are suing Facebook. What will FTC and state antitrust suits mean for social media? And will Congress end up approving another COVID relief package before the end of the year? The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike & Jay open the show with a discussion of the recent ruling mandating that the Trump administration restart the DACA program. While the Supreme Court has ruled on DACA, it hasn’t ruled on the merits of the case - only on the Trump administration’s method of ending it. Both Mike & Jay think that a legislative fix would be preferable to any executive action and see DACA as executive overreach. Next is a look at the ongoing COVID stimulus talks. Jay believes there’s a real possibility of a deal largely along Republican lines, whereas Mike feels that Democrats have compromised more than Republicans and that we might not see a major relief package until after Joe Biden becomes president. After that they turn to President Trump’s continuing election challenges and how lucrative they’ve been for his post-presidency political action committee. The president’s claims of massive election fraud have complicated things for Republicans in the Georgia US Senate runoff elections, though Jay doesn’t believe that calls from some Trump supporters to boycott the election will have a significant effect. Mike agrees, but points out that in a close election, even a few election boycotters might tilt the races in favor of the Democrats. They close the show with a discussion of Attorney General William Barr. Early in the week he announced that the Department of Justice had found no evidence of fraud significant enough to overturn the results of the presidential election, which President Trump vigorously disputes. Barr also named US Attorney John Durham as special counsel in the investigation of the ‘Russia conspiracy’ investigators. While Mike questions the legal legitimacy of the appointment, both Jay and Mike believe the Biden administration won’t make any move to dismiss the special counsel. Mike’s Weekly Recommendation The Blues Brothers Jay’s Weekly Recommendation The Crown (Netflix) The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Mike’s Article Recommendations Politics Makes Me Sick (Mike’s Other Podcast) Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices