The Peter McCormack Show

Peter Dunworth runs a multi-family office for high-net-worth families. In this interview, we discuss Bitcoin in Australia, and the reluctance of banks to embrace it despite it being the world's most undervalued collateral. We also talk about the negative impact of state expenditure and taxation on inflation and the economy, and how markets are going to form around Bitcoin. - - - - Australia should be a natural home for Bitcoin. Back in 2013, the governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia (Australia's central bank) stated "There would be nothing to stop people in this country deciding to transact in some other currency in a shop if they wanted to. There's no law against that, so we do have competing currencies." This sentiment provides content for the mild approach the Australian government has historically employed to Bitcoin regulation. As Bitcoin and digital assets mature there are demands for legislation from some prominent Australian politicians. However, as in the US, regulators are struggling to determine how to deal with Bitcoin in comparison to other digital assets. The Australian Securities and Investments Commission, the Australian version of the SEC, does not currently deem Bitcoin to be a financial product. This lack of regulatory clarity is why Bitcoin is yet to be fully embraced by mainstream banking in Australia. Whilst Bitcoin transactions are allowed, there are increasingly onerous banking limitations on transacting with exchanges. Essentially, banks don't want money leaking out of their control as this reduces their ability to increase the flow of money through fractional reserve banking. It is Peter Dunworth's opinion though that we could be at a tipping point. Bitcoin, according to Peter, is the world's most undervalued collateral. Banks will eventually lean into this as they will be able to add it to their balance sheets and solve their current capital adequacy problems. They will then be able to leverage it as any other balance sheet asset for loans. This is why Peter believes that, in terms of the future, Bitcoin is chronically undervalued. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/valuing-bitcoin This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

L0la L33tz is a privacy advocate and writer. In this interview, we discuss her recent article about flaws in Chainalysis blockchain analysis software. They discuss the impact of such issues in the case against Roman Sterlingoff, who has been held in jail based on Chainalysis' evidence, the need for regulation in the blockchain surveillance industry, and Coindesk's subsequent hesitance over L0la's worthy article amid a conflict of interest. - - - - Roman Sterlingov has been in jail for 2 years. He has been accused of running Bitcoin Fog, a Bitcoin mixer, and laundering $334 million. No evidence has been found on any computer, thumb drive or server that links Roman to the crimes he's accused of. The evidence that does exist has been produced by the blockchain forensics company Chainanalysis. The DoJ's case against Roman is progressing. As part of a court hearing on the admissibility of expert testimony, Chainalysis's head of investigation testified that there was no scientific evidence for the accuracy of their software. This is obviously a significant revelation that tests law enforcement's belief that such analysis can be used to censor transactions and imprison people. Chainalysis has thus far failed to provide key validating data and peer-reviewed studies. There are also significant doubts about the heuristics used by Chainalysis, such as the co-spend heuristic, which assumes that all inputs in a transaction belong to the same person. This heuristic fails when technologies like coin joins are used, where multiple people contribute inputs to a transaction. An underlying problem is the complete lack of regulation in the blockchain surveillance industry. There should be open-source transparency as such analysis is being used to deny people their liberty and seize their assets. But, the companies involved are driven by profit and they seek to protect their intellectual property. This has bled into the reporting on the case. CoinDesk, whose parent company is an investor in Chainalysis, initially retracted an article on this case by L0la L33tz without informing her. They later republished it. But, it calls into question some of the material conflicts of interest within the industry. To avoid a powerful nexus of special interests, it is vital that independent journalists like L0la L33tz are supported in their efforts to shine a light on such systems. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/is-chainalysis-prosecuting-innocent-people This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Lyn Alden is a macroeconomist and investment strategist. This interview is the final of three shows where we discuss Lyn's amazing new book: Broken Money. In this show, we recap the flaws in the modern financial system, and then we discuss the potential of Bitcoin as a decentralised solution with its ability to allow hard asset money to move globally at speed. - - - - It is becoming increasingly clear, even to people without expertise in monetary or fiscal matters, that the current economic system is in need of urgent reform. The money supply continues to inflate, rewarding large, well-connected entities at the expense of smaller ones, with liabilities shifting from the private to the public sector. At the state level, many countries are facing serious challenges in accumulating capital and making global payments. In short, money is broken. At a more fundamental level, there are serious technical limitations with current forms of money. Humans have been trying to make gold and silver easier to use for thousands of years, leading to the development of various banking tools. However, the increasing level of abstraction in these tools has caused major issues, especially with the rise of telecommunications. This has led to the current system where physical money is too slow for the modern global economy. Bitcoin is a potential solution to all these issues. It is different from previous monetary innovations as it allows hard asset money to move globally at the speed of digital communications, which could revolutionise the financial system. It is unsurprising that it has emerged at the end of the long-term debt cycle, as an innovation that unified various technical concepts developed over previous decades, with the aim of creating a form of money suitable for the digital age. But perhaps more important than the technical aspects of Bitcoin is the rigid and predictable monetary policy, which consists of two simple rules: a fixed limit of 21 million coins and a halving of the inflation rate every 210,000 blocks (approximately every four years). Its decentralised nature protects this monetary policy from being corrupted. This simplicity contrasts starkly with the complex and convoluted monetary policies of central banks and governments. Bitcoin therefore offers a global, decentralised ledger that allows for easy cross-border transactions and protects against debasement. Whilst its advantages are more immediately obvious to the people and governments in developing countries, Bitcoin's importance extends to all people and all countries. There are always risks to Bitcoin that the community needs to be prepared for, so it is vital to educate people about Bitcoin and its long-term potential. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/how-bitcoin-fixes-money This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Lyn Alden is a macroeconomist and investment strategist. This interview is the second of three shows where we discuss Lyn's amazing new book: Broken Money. In this show, we explore the concept of hard money, the ascendancy of paper money and the transition from gold-backed currency to fiat currency. We talk about the birth of banks, fractional reserve lending, central banks, the flaws of the Bretton Woods system, and the impact of the petrodollar. - - - - Historically, hard money like gold has been considered the ideal form of money due to its scarcity & durability. However, another aspect to consider is utility. Paper money, despite not being as hard as gold, became dominant because of its convenience and speed. Speed is perhaps one of the most important functions people demand in money: throughout history, humans have sought to make money more portable and efficient. At the same time as money was evolving, so were the institutions associated with managing money. Banks can be traced back hundreds of years with the provision of credit and the increased portability of money. The modern form of banks emerged in Europe over the past few centuries; the importance of banking to the functions of the state led to the development of central banks that financed governments, particularly during times of war. The demand for speed opened the door for the introduction of fiat currency, which offered faster and more convenient transactions. Government legal tender laws and taxes on non-monetary assets further solidified the dominance of fiat currency. But, this also opened up the distortion of money as a result of greed and abuse. The speed arbitrage provided by fiat currency has allowed for more manipulation and corruption. The evolution of fiat currency led to the emergence of the petrodollar: the United States sought to replace gold with the dollar and maintain its economic and military dominance by enabling the dollar to become the global reserve currency. However, this has negatively impacted countries outside of the US, and it's also now affecting the US. The future of money needs a reboot. The development of a decentralized alternative will be the focus of the final show of this series. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/how-money-broke This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Lyn Alden is a macroeconomist and investment strategist. In this interview, we discuss Lyn's amazing new book: Broken Money. This show, the first in a series of three shows, delves into the history of money: the concept of money as a ledger, its different forms throughout history, as well as the properties that make a commodity suitable for use as money. - - - - One of the key concepts Lyn explores is the idea of money as a ledger, of which there are three main forms: commodity money, governed by the specific properties of the physical commodity being used as money; bank money, which is a ledger governed by nation states and managed by central banks; and, open-source money like Bitcoin, where the ledger is governed by the users, who create and maintain the rules of the system. But how did money develop? Money emerged as an innovation to solve the problems of barter, where the limitations of the double coincidence of wants and lack of trust between traders made transactions difficult. Money emerged as a liquid accounting system making transactions more efficient. Different cultures used various commodities as forms of money throughout history, including shell beads, cocoa, salt, and furs. Each type of commodity used as money had unique properties that made them suitable, such as divisibility and the ability for them to be recombined. As technology advanced, people were able to produce more of these commodities, which led to their devaluation. However, two commodities that were difficult to devalue were silver and gold. These precious metals were rarer and had a natural difficulty adjustment, making them more suitable as money. As important as the technology of money was the evolution of the theory of money. Two competing theories of money emerged: commodity theory and credit theory. Commodity theorists believed that barter was the precursor to money. However, credit as a form of money has been found in modern hunter-gatherer societies and used as an effective way of circumventing the need for commodities as money. The current paradigm is seeing bank money and credit theory coming under significant strain. Every system controlled by human administrators degrades over time, with most currencies experiencing high inflation or even hyperinflation within a human lifetime. However, despite attempts to find alternatives like the dollar or Bitcoin, nothing quite fills the void left by the local currency. How money broke will be the focus of the next show. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/the-emergence-of-money This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Matthew Mežinskis is the creator of the Crypto Voices podcast and Porkopolis Economics website. In this interview, we discuss the concept of base money, a comparison of global currency valuations (including Bitcoin), COVID-19's impact on the monetary base, limitations of the current monetary system, government debt, inflation, political problems, and the need for change. - - - - There are quite rightly real concerns over the societal implications of Central Bank Digital Currencies particularly in relation to the capacity it will give governments to erode democratic principles. However, there are already serious concerns regarding the existing system. The transmission of monetary policy, that is, the impact of central bank policy decisions on the economy, is significant. And yet, these policy decisions are done behind closed doors. Around two-thirds of the United States' monetary base is digital: equating to 20 trillion dollars. Central banks add and remove trillions of dollars from the monetary system through keystrokes and computer strokes, increasing and reducing the bank reserves by increasingly eye-watering amounts. The latest changes have removed material liquidity from the banking system. This has caused interest rates to rise, which has resulted in banking collapses and a cost of living crisis. Some are calling for central banks to be abolished, such as Javier Milei, the libertarian candidate leading Argentinia's presidential polls. However, central banks are closely entwined to the global economy; there is no easy way to surgically remove them without causing collateral damage to the real economy. Yet, if central banks continue on their current path there will be more currency collapses and a concentration of value in a narrowing set of global currencies. The monetary system is therefore becoming a cartel controlled by a small elite who are benefiting from this situation whilst the majority suffer. There is growing dissatisfaction with this situation and a desire for change among the general population. Bitcoin can play a role in such a change: it both offers a more efficient and less restrictive alternative, but also, educates people as to the nature of the problem with a centralized monetary system. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/how-central-banks-broke-money This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British satirist, podcaster, author and political commentator. In this interview, we discuss politics, freedom of expression, and the influence of American discourse on the UK. We also talk about the importance of rational and reasonable discussions, the challenges of self-censorship and the connection between economic issues and "wokeism". - - - - Cancel culture, the practice of publicly shaming or boycotting individuals or organizations deemed to have said or done something objectionable is a phenomenon that has gained prominence in recent years. The exact beginnings of cancel culture are hard to pinpoint, as public backlash and boycotts have occurred throughout history. However, the rise of social media platforms in the late 2000s and early 2010s significantly amplified cancel culture's influence. The problem is the impact cancel culture has in shaping societal discourse and accountability. Supporters view it as a way to hold people responsible for their actions, promote social justice, and challenge systemic issues. They argue that cancelling figures or entities who promote harmful ideas helps to create a more inclusive and equitable society. It can also serve as a form of empowerment for marginalized groups. And yet, cancel culture has faced strong and growing criticism in recent years for its significant negative impacts. The practice often lacks nuance or fairness, leading to disproportionate consequences for minor offences or misunderstandings without due process. Further, it fosters a culture of fear and self-censorship, as individuals may be afraid to express unpopular opinions or engage in critical discussions for fear of being cancelled. Perhaps the most minacious consequence is that cancel culture can lead to further polarization in society as people retreat into echo chambers and become more resistant to differing viewpoints. The effect is to critically hinder open dialogue and mutual understanding. Rather than engaging in constructive dialogue, people are being prevented the opportunity to engage in rational and reasonable debate. If we want to remain free we must be prepared to be offended. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/the-growing-culture-war This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Ben Arc is a free open-source software advocate and founder of LNbits. In this interview, we discuss a range of subjects covering poverty, politics, and technology. We talk about the value of hard work, the impact of Brexit, the potential of decentralized platforms like Nostr, privacy concerns, censorship on social media platforms, and the importance of freedom of speech. - - - - Ben Arc is one of the Bitcoin community's most unheralded heroes': there are numerous occasions when LNbits, which he co-founded, has been mentioned as a vital cog in the development of new Bitcoin software and hardware across the world, particularly in Africa. Then there is Ben's leading development in the censor-resistant social network Nostr. And, he was an OG Bitcoin progressive pushing against the dogma that Bitcoin was solely a libertarian tool. In this great podcast, we discuss a range of subjects close to Ben's heart that fall into the big buckets of politics and technology. Ben has a personal experience of poverty, which has shaped his political views. We talk about this and the most important political event to have affected the UK in our lifetimes, Brexit, which has dominated headlines for years and still continues to divide opinion. We then focus on Ben's opinions of the potential for decentralized platforms to resist censorship and government interference. Nostr was developed out of an LNbits proof of concept application for a decentralized peer-to-peer marketplace. It has morphed into a technology that's not only revolutionizing the way developers build applications but also facilitates a censorship-resistant global social network. In an era of increasing digital censorship, alternative platforms that prioritize freedom of speech are more important than ever. With the backing of influential figures like Jack Dorsey, Nostr could become a dominant platform in the tech world that disintermediates middlemen and tackles censorship. And it shows the potential of Bitcoin to continue to revolutionize industries. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/what-nostr-did This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Nigel Farage is a prominent British broadcaster and former politician. In this interview, in the wake of the controversial closure of Nigel's bank account that led to the resignation of the CEO of Natwest Bank, we discuss the importance of individual sovereignty and the control of money by the state. We also discuss the growing concern over CBDCs and the critical importance of cash. - - - - In June 2023, Nigel Farage had his Coutts UK bank account unexpectedly closed. He firmly believed that this action was a result of political persecution. This sparked a heated debate, with prominent politicians, such as the UK's Chancellor of the Exchequer Jeremy Hunt, expressing concerns about the denial of financial services to those who engage in lawful free speech. The BBC reported in early July that Farage's Coutts account had been shut down because he didn't meet the bank's minimum investment threshold. However, this version of events was untrue. Farage had obtained a document (through a subject access request to Coutts) revealing that the closure of his accounts was in fact due to his political views not aligning with the bank's values. The CEO of the NatWest Group, Dame Alison Rose, was the source for the BBC's initial incorrect story. Natwest, the owner of Coutts, is one of the major UK banks. The British Government bailed out the banking group during the Global Financial Crisis, and they still own 39% of the company. Responding to the mounting pressure, Dame Rose resigned on July 25, 2023. These unfolding events shed light on the challenges faced by individuals when financial institutions seemingly conflate personal beliefs with the provision of banking services. The situation underscores the importance of upholding freedom of speech and the need for transparency and accountability within the banking sector. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/the-debanking-of-nigel-farage This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Samantha De Waal is a 12-year-old lifetime Bitcoiner. In this interview, we discuss her experiences as a Bitcoiner, including her challenges in being taken seriously as a young advocate. We also talk about the importance of considering children's needs and perspectives in the Bitcoin community and more generally in society. - - - - According to the United Nations, in 2023, there are approximately 2.4 billion people aged 0-18 years worldwide. This represents around 30% of the total global population. As they represent a substantial proportion of humanity, it is imperative to consider their perspectives. And yet, children and young adults find it hard to be heard in any of the debates on the major issues the world currently faces; these issues we are expecting them to handle in the near future. Too often we all belittle the views of those under 18. Anyone who has forthright opinions is deemed to be parroting a mentor's opinions rather than their own. Whilst it is true that life experience counts for a lot in terms of developing wisdom, those younger than ourselves have significantly important views and ideas born of experiences unique to those older than themselves. Generation Z, or Zoomers, are digital natives. Being born into a society rooted in the advances of the internet means that they are incredibly more comfortable with the digital revolution than previous generations. Such confidence only improves over time: the current generation, Generation Alpha, will exceed the abilities of Zoomers. And each generation is less encumbered with the traditions of the past and more open to change. It is from such young people that the solutions to the coming crises will emerge, including the impending economic crisis. It is therefore imperative that they are included in the important conversations that are taking place, and that they are given time to express themselves. For the Bitcoin community, this means giving space for discussion in podcasts, conferences and articles. It also means accounting for their specific needs to help them embrace Bitcoin. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/orange-pilling-your-kids This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Doomberg is an anonymous collective producing the world's most popular financial substack. In this interview, we discuss the state of scientific research in the context of the potential game-changing implications that a room-temperature superconductor may have been developed. We talk about the framework for evaluating such claims, the importance of critical thinking, and a range of other current topics of debate. - - - - In the digital age, reducing the electrical resistance of conducting materials is one of the major problems scientists are working on; such resistance leads to energy loss in the form of heat, and thereby, the inefficient transmission of electricity and increased costs. The US energy grid loses about 5% of electricity through transmission lines due to such resistance, enough energy to power the whole of Central America 4 times over. The innovation that overcomes the resistance issue is superconductivity: the phenomenon where certain materials can conduct electric current with zero resistance so there is no energy loss due to resistance and no heat generation. Further, superconductors can carry electric current indefinitely without any degradation of the signal, making them incredibly efficient. Superconductivity's impact on technological progress is significant. It enables the development of more efficient electrical systems beyond power transmission: it has revolutionized fields such as medical imaging, particle accelerators and quantum computing. It could also lead to breakthroughs in fields like transportation, where superconducting materials could create highly efficient electric motors or levitation systems for maglev trains. However, traditional superconductors require extremely low temperatures, often near absolute zero, making their implementation and maintenance expensive and impractical. If superconductivity could be achieved at or close to room temperature, it could herald a new technology revolution. So, when South Korean researchers recently announced the discovery of a new room-temperature superconductor material called LK 99, 'X' (i.e. Twitter) went crazy. However, there is a massive gap between claims of scientific breakthrough and peer-reviewed validation. Unfortunately, in this case, other researchers are struggling to replicate the original work. As such, whilst the excitement around such news is obviously merited, we need all to remain rooted in the methodical scientific method, which is predicated on scepticism. As Carl Sagan stated, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/the-breakdown-of-trust-with-doomberg This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

In this interview with Parker Lewis, we discuss the book he is currently writing, the Bitcoin scenes in Austin and Nashville, the triggers for a significant shift in Bitcoin adoption, the potential effects of hyperinflation, and how governments may seek to regulate and tax Bitcoin. - - - - Everyone has their own Bitcoin journey. However, each journey takes a very similar route: cynical awareness, dabbling, investing, rabbit hole, awareness, getting burnt, realisation, all in, obsession. Gradually, then suddenly. The process explains the rationale behind hodling, but also, why adoption takes time. Bitcoin requires effort before the payoff can begin. Proof of work. Understanding Bitcoin also requires a fundamental change of perspective. Society long ago jettisoned the logic of adhering to a low-time preference; the modern consumerist fiat system is predicated on living for the now. The intellectual and moral hollowness of this approach is manifest in the multitude of major issues confronting our society today. We need a realignment with a more mature ideology best imagined by the famous Greek proverb 'Society grows when men plant trees that they know they will never sit under'. This realignment may result more from necessity rather than an awakening: the seeds of hyperinflation have been sown into the economic fabric of most nations, and we're starting to see the edifice crumble. Those who adopt Bitcoin first will be best placed to weather the coming storms. There is a flip side risk for those who hold Bitcoin. History is littered with examples of the state confiscating private wealth. This risk is obviously most acute when the state's coffers have run dry. The fact is that global debt is now at an all-time high; further, deficits keep increasing. Now, with rising interest rates, debt levels are becoming unmanageable. A reckoning is coming. Prepare accordingly. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/will-blackrock-be-bitcoins-suddenly-moment This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Tony Giorgio is the co-founder and CEO of Mutiny Wallet, a self-custodial lightning wallet. In this interview, we discuss the privacy implications of using Lightning Network, challenges faced by Mutiny, the concept of coin swaps, the web-based nature of Mutiny, the Lightning Service Provider (LSP) model, and the potential future developments of Mutiny. - - - - Just over three weeks ago Mutiny launched what it refers to as the "first self-custodial lightning wallet that runs on the web." Being web-based means that Mutiny can innovate without the restrictions that can and are placed on wallets distributed via app stores. In this fascinating podcast, Mutiny's co-founder and CEO Tony Giorgio sets out the background, challenges and future for Mutiny. Mutiny started as a hackathon project that the founders developed whilst working at Voltage, the Bitcoin-focused infrastructure provider. Voltage supported the founders by allowing them to develop Mutiny whilst also building the lightning service provider for Voltage, which now also powers Mutiny! Tony discusses the challenges faced with interoperability on lightning nodes, having intuitive payment functionality for non-technical users, and the difficulties of enabling automatic software updates. Tony also explains the concept of coin swaps, how Mutiny utilizes lightning as a contract layer for these transactions, and how this approach eliminates the need for a middleman and allows users to control their funds in new ways. Tony finally covers the advanced features of Mutiny wallet: integrating cold storage, social tipping, facilitating wallet connections, and other innovative features such as enabling people to manage subscriptions on top of Lightning. Then there are Mutiny's future plans like integrating e-cash and allowing users to easily transition from a custodial to a non-custodial lightning transaction. It's an exciting project, to say the least. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/the-bitcoin-mutiny This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Macro Alf is the founder of The Macro Compass, an investment strategy firm. In this interview, we discuss different types of bank money, QE, deficits, money printing, and whether a debt spiral is looming. - - - - What constitutes 'money printing' is a hotly contested topic and something we have convered on the show numerous times. The debate among economists of what "money printing" is and its impact on the 'real economy' revolves around two key ideas: the definition of money printing and its actual influence on the economy. While some experts equate money printing with direct central bank action like quantitative easing, others take into account broader credit creation and the impact that has on the broader money supply and the economy. The delineation between the financial sector and the real economy is the crucial proponent and while some economists view money printing as primarily affecting asset prices and financial markets, with limited direct impact on the production of goods and services. Others stress that adding liquidity to the system is enough to create financial stability and increase confidence in the economy, therefore, affecting consumer and business decisions, and again, the 'real economy'. In this episode, we get to the bottom of money creation, how it impacts the economy and the role of central banks in managing an economy. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/money-printing-the-debt-spiral This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

American HODL is an OG Bitcoiner who has been promoting the innovation for over 8 years. In this interview, we discuss a whole range of topics from free speech, the idea of a Bitcoin citadel, scaling Bitcoin and the race to hyperbitcoinisation. - - - - Back in June, American HODL tweeted "If you're new, you may not know that [Balaji Srinivasan] offered up the concept of voice vs exit back in '15. Voice = interior reform. Exit = voting with feet. Since then exit has become the rallying cry for many. Balaji and other proponents have already left. Here's why I'm staying…" Is the concept of voting with your feet and leaving the city, state or country that is your home defeatist? Instead, should we be concentrating on staying, and reforming our own communities? The degree to which a distorted currency distorts reality is certainly underappreciated outside of Bitcoin, and the wide ranging implications of Bitcoin as a global monetary system are yet to be seen, but rather than exiting the system, by staying and cleaning it up we will see what Bitcoin can actually fix. Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/what-does-bitcoin-fix This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your Bitcoin with confidence

Marty Bent is a Venture Partner at Ten31, founder of the Bitcoin-focused media company TFTC.io, and Director of Cathedra Bitcoin. In this interview, we discuss the potential implementation of a global financial system based on CBDCs and the role of the Bank of International Settlements (BIS). We also talk about the potential role of Bitcoin in fighting against state actors. - - - - CBDCs are the unwanted concomitants of Satoshi's innovation: the state's answer to the settlement improvements offered by Bitcoin, without any of the fundamental design features predicated on protecting individuals in the digital age. They represent everything Satoshi was working against: the chance for the state to fully capture and control people's use of money with all of the inherent dangers to democracy and individual liberty that this brings. Technological developments akin to CBDCs were always going to manifest, but, it is obviously not a coincidence that work on them accelerated in the shadow of Bitcoin. For over a century, governments, central banks and other centralising institutions have had an unfettered ability to control and manipulate money; money printing and inflation rigged the system in favour of the dealer. Bitcoin offers a chance for a new and fairer system. Whilst it is easier for those with knowledge to identify the extreme contrast between the two forms of money, it is also clear how and why people believe CBDCs are a good idea. The state has an asymmetric power in pushing narratives; promoting the benefits of having the utility of instant digital transactions that safeguards against paedophiles, terrorists and money launders, will certainly seem like an incontestable advancement. It's just that we know this isn't the purpose. The ring leader in this global effort to retain central authority over money is being led by the Bank of International Settlements. The BIS is behind a number of pilot projects that sound like they were devised by a megalomaniac James Bond villain (Project Rosalind, Project Polaris). Playing the role of Blofeld is Agustín Carstens. In 2022 Mr Carstens stated "the soul of money belongs neither to a big tech nor to an anonymous ledger. The soul of money is trust… central banks have been and continue to be the institutions best placed to provide trust in the digital age." Carstens believes that technology can't make trusted money. He is expecting us to ignore the evidence of history where institutions have repeatedly abused the trust bestowed on them. And he is asking us to ignore Bitcoin. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Tuur Demeester is a Bitcoin investor and economist. In this interview, we discuss the significance of Bitcoin as a sound and auditable form of money, the impact of BlackRock embracing Bitcoin, and the importance of understanding the financial system. Tuur shares his insights as an early adopter of Bitcoin and reflects on its progress over the years. We also discuss addiction treatment. - - - - Given that Bitcoin is now being promoted by the world's largest asset manager, it is easy to forget how nascent the innovation still is. In the early days of Bitcoin, just over a decade ago, understanding Bitcoin was a challenge. And yet, despite the uncertainties, such as how Bitcoin would scale and the potential attack vectors, the signal was clear - Bitcoin was driven by engineers, not money. The role of cypherpunks should not be underestimated: it was their diligent work in seeking to protect privacy and human rights in the digital space that provided the solid basis for Bitcoin. Fast forward to today, and we see increased adoption and improved understanding of Bitcoin's vulnerabilities. It's exciting to witness this combination of increased adoption and improved understanding. In this podcast, Tuur Demeester discusses the resistance and challenges that Bitcoin faces, especially from those who have built wealth and status within traditional financial systems. Further, we discuss Bitcoin's evolving narrative, particularly in relation to environmental concerns, and how the changing narrative will be assisted by BlackRock's endorsement of Bitcoin which could force mainstream media outlets to reconsider their negative stance. Tuur outlines the importance of asking simple questions to understand the financial system, such as where money comes from and what determines the price of money. Through this lens, one is better able to appreciate Bitcoin's role as an insurance policy. Tuur also discusses the threats to Bitcoin's expansion, highlighting the importance of not losing track of the principles and values that got us here. We also have a fascinating discussion about addiction treatment. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Marty Bent is a Venture Partner at Ten31, founder of the Bitcoin-focused media company TFTC.io, and Director of Cathedra Bitcoin, and Grant Gilliam is a co-founder and Managing Partner at Ten31. In this interview, we discuss investing in Bitcoin and Bitcoin-associated ventures, including the specifics of investing in Bitcoin mining. - - - - VC funds within the crypto space have developed a bad reputation over recent years. However, Ten31 is an investment fund with a major difference: it was formed by Bitcoiners dedicated to supporting Bitcoiners. Whilst obviously being business driven, it is also mission-driven in supporting companies that are building infrastructure and bringing utility to the Bitcoin network. It is therefore a unique source of investment for entrepreneurs as both sides of the table share the same vision i.e. Bitcoin is a paradigm-shifting technology that will be the basis of future economic value. The Bitcoin focus is an explicit feature of the company: the fund is named after the date of Satoshi's whitepaper, whilst the logo is a hat tip to the proof of work diagram within it. Since the fund's inception, Ten31 has directed more than $100 million in equity to companies building on Bitcoin and the Lightning Network. Grant Gilliam and Marty Bent set out their experience of investing in Bitcoin companies: the challenges, the benefit of valuing such companies in Bitcoin, and the importance of having Bitcoin on the balance sheet. The discussion also focuses on the investment opportunities within the Bitcoin mining industry. Mining has a low barrier to entry, making it an attractive business for many. Further opportunities are developing through the convergence of the energy sector and the bitcoin mining industry, which is happening in real-time. Ten31 believe that those Bitcoin mining companies with the right calibre of people will accrue significant value. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Car González is the co-founder of Pleb Lab, a Bitcoin accelerator in Austin. In this interview, we discuss the Bitcoin community in Austin, why he decided to start Pleb Lab, how to grow Bitcoin development and the importance of third spaces for Bitcoiners. - - - - Building businesses is hard. Many brilliant ideas often don't make it through the first year - it's not their concept or even their people that's the problem, they're just not robust enough to survive. This is where accelerators come in - providing support when companies often need it most. They play an important role for startups by providing expertise & resources to early-stage companies. These programs offer an environment where startups receive mentorship, gaining invaluable insights and guidance to navigate the challenges of business development. Businesses in Bitcoin are no different. The need for Bitcoin-specific spaces is critical, and in 2021, Pleb Lab was founded to address this market. They created a hacker space and accelerator that supports early-stage Bitcoin startups and developers. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your Bitcoin with confidence

Jeff Ross is the Founder & CEO of Vailshire Capital Management. In this interview, we discuss Jeff's twin expertise in finance and medicine, the impact of AI, and the importance of personal responsibility. We also talk about the state of the global economy, liquidity in the Bitcoin market, the benefits of the state having Bitcoin as a reserve asset, and the changing narrative around Bitcoin. - - - - One of the powerful libertarian ideas aligned with Bitcoin is personal sovereignty: the rights of the individual including the protection of property rights. Advocates of this belief espouse it has a vital corollary where sovereign individuals also accept personal responsibility, in showing agency to better themselves and being accountable for their actions. In modern society, there does seem to be an increasing problem of people relinquishing themselves of such responsibility, manifested in poor financial and health choices. Whilst it is true that a significant number of citizens can find themselves facing difficult life choices through no fault of their own, there equally needs to be an acceptance that too many are willing to throw caution to the wind and the states can't be expected to automatically pick up the pieces. The problem for society today is that the state could quite quickly become unable to provide the support citizens have until now taken for granted. Governments are struggling to manage their debt obligations with rampant inflation leading to rising interest rates. At the same time, we are in the midst of a global manufacturing crisis. One strategy Jeff Ross thinks governments could apply is the adoption of Bitcoin as a reserve asset. This could both strengthen economies, whilst also creating an honest unit of account. It is a rare option that provides a potential path to growth, the reduction of debt and protects future generations. But, such a transition is far from certain. Those unprepared therefore face significant risks. If governments can't be responsible, then it's the role of the individual to protect themselves. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Alex Leishman is a Founder, CEO, & CTO of River Financial. In this interview, we discuss the case of Prime Trust, a crypto infrastructure company, that's been placed into receivership following key management errors that resulted in it losing customer funds. We talk about the challenges of asset custody in the Bitcoin industry and the benefits and complexities of building a regulated business. - - - - Key management is the Achilles' heel for most Bitcoiners. We all know the importance of having a diligent process for safeguarding seed phrases, and yet, many people have experienced material loss as a result of losing access to keys. Currently, around 4 million Bitcoin, over 20% of the available supply, are estimated to have been lost. The concerning thing is that this isn't just a result of individuals making errors: there are businesses that are also culpable. Prime Trust is a crypto services company that provided APIs and plug and play widgets for digital asset companies seeking backend infrastructure. A court in Nevada has just placed it in receivership citing operational instability and insolvency risks. The root issue is that Prime Trust accidentally lost access to wallets containing tens of millions of dollars in assets. Not your keys not your coins for the millionth time. Custody is hard. But, it's the same old basic lessons that underpin sound custody solutions. Avoid complexity. Have robust processes. Think about the long term rather than taking expeditious shortcuts. Target self-custody. However, these are lessons that are somewhat alien to the fiat ideology of "move fast and break things". The community, therefore, needs to educate the new investor class that will be attracted to Bitcoin in the next bull market. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Alex Thorn is Head of Firmwide Research at Galaxy. In this interview, we discuss Bitcoin Park and others' efforts to promote Bitcoin, the impact of BlackRock's involvement in Bitcoin, and the legal battle between Coinbase and the SEC. We also talk about the need for education and inclusivity for Bitcoin, the importance of maintaining decentralization, and the impact of Bitcoin on the future. - - - - BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager, with AUM in excess of $9 trillion. So, the news that they were throwing their hat into the spot Bitcoin ETF ring has unsurprisingly caused excitement and concern within the Bitcoin community. If BlackRock is successful it will materially widen access to Bitcoin, and significantly increase the buying pressure. In terms of signal, this is perhaps the most important event in the validation of Bitcoin as an asset. Larry Fink, BlackRock's CEO, has changed tack and is now endorsing Bitcoin as digital gold. Such comments penetrate more than those of other commentators and provide unparalleled credence to Bitcoin amongst the professional investing class. The pressure on the SEC will only now increase as they review the latest batch of Bitcoin spot ETF applications. This is at a time when they are involved in a number of critical legal disputes, including their battle against Coinbase. The SEC's approach - failing to provide formal rulemaking for the crypto markets whilst operating a divide-and-rule approach to individual companies - is "extremely stifling" to say the least. That said, whilst increased engagement from traditional asset managers is welcomed, it also comes with material risks. There are rightfully severe concerns about their involvement's impact on efforts to promote self-custody and strengthen decentralisation. It is vital that those managing or advising new investments are educated on Bitcoin's unique characteristics in ways that appeal, and that they are welcomed into the Bitcoin community. Bitcoin needs to be understood and embraced by mainstream culture in order to achieve widespread adoption. The community, therefore, needs to make Bitcoin accessible to a diverse group of people, regardless of their backgrounds, experiences, geographies, and ideologies. At the same time, Bitcoin's core values need to be protected. Strong, principled voices like Marty Bent, Stephan Livera, and Matt Odell, need to continue educating and guiding the community. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Matthew Pines is the Director of Intelligence at the Krebs Stamos Group and a Fellow at the Bitcoin Policy Institute specializing in national security. In this interview, we discuss the growing sense that the US government may imminently disclose the existence of craft of non-human origin and that it actually possesses intact and partially intact examples of such craft. - - - - On July 26th, next Wednesday, the Republican-led House Oversight Committee will hold a hearing on unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs), a new term government agencies use for UFOs. Many believe that this change in nomenclature and the hearing is part of a process aimed at preparing the public for disclosure that the existence of non-human technology is real and that US government agencies and corporations may have retrieved craft of non-human origin. Until recently, UAPs/UFOs were considered a fringe topic. Those in political circles and mainstream media organisations would publicly avoid the subject: it was officially ridiculed, and those who engaged in it risked career suicide. Now, it has suddenly become acceptable to seriously discuss the matter. On Monday (17th July), the White House itself stated UAPs are a "real issue" having "an impact" on the United States Air Force. What changed? Matthew Pines take us through the mechanisms of government bureaucracy in terms of official secrets: who gets clearances and the 'need to know'. Matthew then takes us through the recent extraordinary whistleblower claims of a government coverup in relation to UAPs, why some within the government now feel enabled and compelled to come forward with extraordinary claims, and an effort to silence them. It's not hyperbolic to state that if such claims are publicly substantiated, it will be the biggest event in human history. It is telling that esteemed people who have close knowledge of this subject matter, including prominent politicians, high-ranking officials and qualified professionals, give credence to the UAP phenomenon. We wait with bated breath to see if these extraordinary claims are backed with extraordinary evidence. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Preston Pysh is a co-founder of The Investor Podcast Network, and Matt Odell is host of Citadel Dispatch, co-host of Rabbit Hole Recap, managing partner at Ten31 and co-founder of OpenSats and Bitcoin Park. In this interview, we discuss Bitcoin's impact on privacy, freedom, and the financial system. We also talk about the impact and risks of BlackRock's involvement in Bitcoin, the challenges faced by energy companies adopting Bitcoin, and Bitcoin's potential to massively reorganize wealth. - - - - This is another What Bitcoin Did live show, this time held in Bitcoin Park in Nashville, with two heavyweights of the Bitcoin community: Preston Pysh and Matt Odell. As ever for a live show, we used the opportunity to cover a range of topics. But, the show focused on two main issues: the perennial concern about whether enough users recognize the critical need for privacy to maintain freedom in the digital age; and a new concern regarding BlackRock's impact on Bitcoin. There are significant risks associated with centralized control and surveillance by governments and corporations, but, the iterative eroding of rights means that these systemic risks are often underappreciated. Most people prioritize convenience and are not actively seeking out privacy-oriented tools. To avoid a dystopian future with limited freedom people need to be empowered with both education and user-friendly tools. Further, the lead in promoting and facilitating privacy lies with individuals outside of established multinational tech platforms; grassroots adoption of freedom tech is key to the success of this mission. The oligarchs who control large tech platforms, whilst promoting principles predicated on freedom of expression, actually prioritize the massive collection of data and control. Having a trustless system means just that: we shouldn't need to rely on the word of any one person. The concern about BlackRock's proposed Bitcoin ETF also covers the concern regarding privacy and centralised control. In essence, will BlackRock's involvement increase adoption and strengthen Bitcoin, or, will the reliance on a centralised company to hold a large concentration of paper promises weaken Bitcoin? BlackRock's power will spread interest in Bitcoin, but will also certainly erode the ongoing push for self-custody. Further, are concerns about BlackRock dominating Bitcoin and forcing a hard fork overstated? Certainly, BlackRock could exert influence on Bitcoin, particularly from a regulatory standpoint. But, Bitcoin is resistant to change, and, there is already a significantly strong and cohesive community of hodlers. A major legacy financial institution trying to exert its influence on Bitcoin could yet be Bitcoin's biggest and most important battle. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Matt Odell is host of Citadel Dispatch, co-host of Rabbit Hole Recap, managing partner at Ten31 and co-founder of OpenSats and Bitcoin Park. In this interview, we discuss Bitcoin conferences and podcasts, the importance of decentralized tech, the implications of identity verification on social media, Nostr's potential as a censorship-resistant social network, and the involvement of BlackRock in Bitcoin. - - - - Matt Odell is the Bitcoiners Bitcoiner: mission-driven, innovative, generous and yet unyielding in his expectations of the community. Given he's a fellow podcaster and conference veteran, it was an invaluable opportunity to talk shop, but his wide-ranging expertise means we could again cover a plethora of current hot topics. Matt discussed his views on the surge in global Bitcoin conferences and the changing landscape of Bitcoin podcasts. The boom in events, catering to various niches within the Bitcoin community, is a testament to the growth and diversity of this space. Podcasts too need to stand out from the crowd, whilst taking on mainstream content providers in terms of interviewing adroitness and production quality. We discussed the pros and cons of having a blue checkmark on Twitter: whilst it can help users identify and connect with influential people, there are material concerns about the current identity verification system. The corollary to concerns about traditional social media companies is the potential to disintermediate these closed centralised systems with innovations like Nostr. Together with Bitcoin, Nostr could be a powerful tool for freedom movements. Matt covered the critical importance of educating people on the risks and benefits of decentralization. Individuals with platforms and audiences should explain these risks to lessen the impact and pain that people may experience in a dark dystopian future where censorship and control are prevalent. Finally, Matt provided his take on BlackRock's involvement in Bitcoin. Blackrock is the institution that Bitcoin was designed to resist. However, their involvement is a paradigm shift for Bitcoin's narrative. Nevertheless, there are risks tied to the proposed Blackrock Bitcoin ETF. It's essential to learn how to hold self-custody of your Bitcoin instead of buying a paper claim. And further, it's important Blackrock understand they can't control Bitcoin. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Dennis Porter is the CEO & co-founder of the Satoshi Action Fund. In this interview, we discuss the intersection of Bitcoin and politics, and how the Satoshi Action Fund is orange-pilling states. Dennis outlines the success the fund is having in changing policy towards Bitcoin mining across multiple jurisdictions by focusing on its clear and direct economic and energy benefits. - - - - Over the past few months, a number of states have been passing laws protecting the right to mine Bitcoin mining. As the success of the US experiment is predicated on the protection of reserved powers within the states, the passing of such laws has the power to determine the trajectory of Bitcoin mining within the US. A number of advocacy bodies are behind this movement. Front and centre is the Satoshi Action Fund. Dennis Porter, CEO and co-founder of the Fund describes his experience of orange pilling states. He discusses the importance of education. Bitcoin obviously takes time to learn and understand. This means advocates need to dedicate time and identify the right people to focus on. He sets out the strategy of finding and focusing on attractors who are open to learning and ignoring detractors who have already solidified an opinion. Dennis also sets out what Bitcoiners should expect in return from politicians. Bitcoiners are now a powerful voting block, so we need to demand more than mere lip service from politicians who claim to support Bitcoin. We should strive for a transition from empty promises to the introduction and passing of policies that truly benefit Bitcoin and its community. Dennis encourages all of us to participate in the political system: active participation is the best way of creating a better environment for Bitcoin. His inspiration is drawn from the founding fathers of the United States, who fought for independence through their political engagement. By getting involved, we can shape policy decisions that facilitate the growth and acceptance of Bitcoin. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Junseth is an OG Bitcoiner and the former co-host of Bitcoin Uncensored. In this wide ranging interview, we discuss Bitcoin volatility and it's repetitive cycles, the ossification of the Bitcoin protocol and the current state of development, Bitcoin anonymity and privacy, the profitability of mining, and Bitcoin's future as an alternative to traditional money in a world of global collapse. - - - - Bitcoin's development over the past 14 years has been both phenomenal and revelatory. Apart from Hal Finney, nobody saw its significant influence on the energy sector. Furthermore, nobody foresaw the impact of ordinals. That's why, as we contemplate the potential for Bitcoin to enter a new and significant bull market cycle, questions as to what Bitcoin is and will become are as fascinating as at any time since its launch in January 2009. The debates over the protocol's conservative development are as impassioned as ever. Questions over the persistence of Bitcoin's price cycles continue to produce significant amounts of content. The complex challenges of maintaining privacy, and the associated misconceptions of average users, endure. The resilient strength of the mining industry never ceases to amaze. However, the bigger picture is still focused on the singular issue of the basic right to transact. The traditional notion of currency control places the state as the arbiter of money. Yet, the past decade has witnessed central banks exerting ever greater control of financial systems and the weaponisation of money by the state. Bitcoin was designed as a vital alternative as trust in traditional processes erodes. Given its power to disintermediate powerful centralised institutions, the primary concern of Bitcoiners is whether governments will seek to control, limit or ban it. Bitcoiners believe that the state's regulation of money should be limited, allowing individuals to freely hold and transact any form of currency. Further, these rights should be codified into a Second Amendment right to hold Bitcoin. We're back to the cypherpunk philosophy: freedom to transact is freedom of speech. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Linda Parker is CEO and Maddison Clyne is an Associate Director for Women in Distress. In this interview, we discuss their work aiding survivors of domestic violence and their interest in Bitcoin as a means of financial empowerment. They talk about the rise in domestic violence during the pandemic, the challenges faced by survivors, and the importance of education. - - - - According to a CDC survey, around 41% of women and 26% of men in the U.S. have experienced sexual violence, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner. It affects millions or people every year. It is a significant public health issue that has devastating physical, emotional, and psychological effects on individuals and families. U.S. crime reports suggest that about 1 in 5 homicide victims are killed by an intimate partner. Having access to resources and support can can be life-changing for victims. However, there is a critical lack of provision. One organisation providing this much-needed support is Women In Distress of Broward County: it is a nonprofit organization dedicated to providing support and services to individuals experiencing domestic violence in Broward County, Florida. Their mission is to empower and advocate for victims while promoting a violence-free community. Women In Distress seeks to mitigate the cycle of abuse, power and control dynamics within relationships, societal stigma and shame surrounding domestic violence, and the huge barriers survivors can face when trying to leave an abusive relationship. By offering an array of services, education, and community collaboration, Women In Distress strives to create a society where domestic violence is not tolerated and survivors can rebuild their lives. The organization offers a range of comprehensive services to survivors of domestic violence, which include a 24-hour crisis hotline, counselling and therapy, support groups, legal advocacy, and assistance with obtaining restraining orders. Women In Distress also provides specialized programs for children who have witnessed or experienced domestic violence, as well as outreach and education initiatives to raise awareness. If you are able to donate please do so. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Robert Breedlove is a philosopher and podcaster within the Bitcoin space. In this wide-ranging interview, we discuss the consequences of the middle class getting destroyed, the hubris of central planning, games of mimetic desire, how Bitcoin is a high-trust environment, Bitcoin's enemies, fasting and living life beyond the ego. - - - - Robert Breedlove has cemented a role as one of the fiercest freedom maximalists within the Bitcoin space. He is a powerful advocate for decentralization, Bitcoin, and the principles of sound money. And, he is also a fellow podcaster, hosting the "What is Money?" podcast, which explores economics, technology, and financial philosophy from a sound money perspective. The interview delves into the impact of economic factors on culture and politics, and whether growing divisiveness in the US and other countries is a result of the destruction of the middle class and the erosion of property rights. We discuss the consequences of poor incentives, the misallocation of capital, taxation and government. We opine on the advantages and disadvantages of currency and the effects of money printing. The discussion considers the need for a hard reset or a wake-up call to address the flaws of our current economic paradigms, predicated on a "colossal hubris" of thinking the world is a compliant machine enabling the global economic systems to be planned in advance. Robert also explains the concept of mimetic desire and its impact on our work and personal lives. We explore the importance of staying true to oneself, and finding inspiration while avoiding becoming too similar to others. We finish on the benefits of fasting and living life beyond the ego. As I stated, this is a comprehensive show! This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Balaji Srinivasan is an angel investor, tech founder, and author of 'The Network State'. In this interview, we discuss the idea of starting new countries ("network states"), based on social networks built around a shared ideal that can monetize effectively. We also talk about how and why the media ignores major global news stories, and how to prepare for the coming collapse. - - - - In the past 14 years, we have seen a powerful global community built around a shared ideal. Bitcoin is obviously much more than a technical innovation: it is a vision of building a new economic paradigm from the bottom up, which shifts the centre of power from the state to the individual. Being open-sourced, leaderless and decentralised, it has proven that there are new ways for people to connect, contribute and collaborate to build new systems. Balaji Srinivasan's latest book takes this revolution one step further, and explores the idea of starting new countries, or what he calls "network states." These network states can be formed by a group of people connected through a social network, with their own income, real estate, and even their own ideological platforms. It's like a political party, but working outside of the limits of national boundaries. The measure of success for these network states lies in their ability to materialise their online presence into the physical world: "You do meetups and eventually you go from crowdfunding brunches to crowdfunding buildings." It challenges the traditional notion of what a country is and opens up possibilities for new forms of governance and community-building. As legacy nations resort to ever more authoritarian methods to protect the fiat system, the importance of allocation, location and organisation to individuals will become more apparent. But, this is more than a theory. Balaji is allocating a material amount of capital to funding startup 'Network State' communities. The aim is to create frontier societies, providing alternatives to failed states and attracting ambitious individuals seeking a new kind of society. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence

Aaron Daniel is an Appellate attorney and author of The Bitcoin Brief, a newsletter analysing Bitcoin's effect on law and society. In this interview, we discuss how justice in arbitration can be applied in a Hyperbitcoinised World. We talk about systemic issues with current legal systems, and how using Bitcoin tools like Fedimint can enable arbitration to become decentralised. - - - - Despite the limitations of our legal systems, at least there are established bodies recognised as intermediaries for dispute resolution, and methods for enforcing judgements on debtors. Aaron Daniels, an attorney and Bitcoiner, has been examining what happens in a hyperbitcoinised world that has circumvented centralised authorities undertaking enforcement action. Aaron has given serious consideration to the concept of anchoring dispute resolution systems into Bitcoin. He is looking at the tools being developed, such as Fedimint, and other systems using escrow agents, arbitration panels and oracles. The emerging ideas promise a new set of arbitration services that are transparent, efficient, affordable, inclusive and localised. This then turns the tables back on the current legal system and focuses on its limitations. It is a system that has become increasingly costly that reinforces societal inequalities. Lack of access to justice based on cost is one of society's more pernicious issues. It results in an asymmetric balance of power in favour of those who have resources against those that don't. Further, it is a system based on archaic centralised rules that don't work for many communities. So, we could be on the cusp of a new and evolving set of arbitration services, linked to Bitcoin, that provide individuals with a fair and transparent environment for dispute resolution. And, it is a sign of a mature system that people are putting serious time into working on these issues. This episode's sponsors: Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Ledn - Financial services for Bitcoin hodlers Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence Incogni - Personal Information Removal Service

Conor Okus is Product Manager at Spiral. In this interview, we discuss his journey from being a footballer to becoming a Bitcoiner, Real Bedford and the alignment of Bitcoin with a grassroots football club, his current role at Spiral managing the grant programme for developers, and his view on the benefits of open source development of Bitcoin. - - - - Bitcoin has been making waves in various industries, and sports is no exception. Conor Okus is a footballer [a.k.a. Soccer player!] who found Bitcoin. Peter is a Bitcoiner who came back to football. They met in the middle when Conor provided Pete with advice and support in establishing Real Bedford. Real Bedford is using Bitcoin in various ways, such as a treasury reserve asset and for educational efforts. They plan to incorporate it into football games by tipping players with QR codes. The grassroots movement of Bitcoin aligns with Real Bedford's grassroots approach to football, making it a perfect fit. Conor and Pete discuss a new wave of football and sports teams based on ideas that resonate with dispersed communities, and the challenges of setting up a new football club. They also talk about the downside of vested interests looking to exploit sport and fan bases for selfish means. Now Conor lives and works in the US as part of the Spiral team, managing an invaluable grant programme for developers. Conor then shares his experience and expertise in supporting open-source Bitcoin development, scaling Bitcoin transactions through lightning, the importance of the user experience in Bitcoin, and fostering an innovative open-source design community.

Margot Paez is a Bitcoin Mining consultant & Troy Cross is a Professor of Philosophy, and both are Fellows at BPI. In this interview, we discuss the fracturing of political movements (particularly the progressives), why the left is in favour of CBDCs, how Bitcoin is a political tool, the Bitcoin Policy Summit, Bitcoin's image problem, and the issues and strengths of higher education. - - - - On this episode, we welcome back two eminent friends of the show: Margot Paez and Troy Cross. At the start of 2022, What Bitcoin Did actively searched for progressive voices within the community. It was soon apparent that there was a huge untapped well of thoughtful and brilliant people who had identified the powerful impact Bitcoin could have in supporting progressive causes. However, it is apparent that there is now a shift happening within the left: a fracturing of beliefs and approaches. Some progressives within Bitcoin are starting to align themselves with a more holistic ideology predicated on financial fairness, which is open to debate and collaboration with those on the other side of the aisle. At the root of this conversion is the belief that the promotion and use of Bitcoin itself is a political act. As Margot states: "it's an act of defiance", but an act of defiance with teeth. Finally, activists have a tool that can take on the established centres of power. But, if we are to accelerate adoption and battle those who work against Bitcoin, education and advocacy still require a solid evidence base. Unfortunately, the FUD directed at Bitcoin has left an ingrained stain in the minds of many progressives. Margot, one of the main people within our community looking to bring academic rigour to support the claims being made about Bitcoin's societal benefits, has suffered directly as a result of this. She has effectively been kicked out of university because of her desire to study Bitcoin, by people with a progressive ideology. We must all do what we can to support people like Margot and Troy. They are the ones providing the Bitcoin movement with the analytical heft needed to protect it from institutional attacks. They do it quietly and diligently, pushing against stiff headwinds. We owe them a massive debt of gratitude.

Erik Hersman is the co-founder of Gridless, & Marshall Long is the Head of Architecture for Rhodium Enterprises. In this interview, we discuss Bitcoin in Africa: the need, the use and the support the wider community can give. We also talk about energy poverty in Africa, Bitcoin's role in supporting mini-grids, and how Gridless's business model & Marshall's financing plan accelerate this process. - - - - There are around 800 million people in the world without access to electricity. Around 75`% of those live in Sub-Saharan Africa. Given populations are distributed over vast areas in Africa, and governments have limited access to capital, grid connections can be economically unviable. But mini-grids are also challenging because of the difficulty of getting a return on the high initial investment costs: demand in these poor communities takes time to build. To date, the only option has been well-meaning but unsustainable charitable ventures that can have unintended negative second-order effects. But then Bitcoin mining showed how curtailed energy can be monetised, and a problem has suddenly become an opportunity. It is estimated Africa could produce 2.5 million terawatt hours of wind and solar energy per year (the US uses around 4,000 terawatt hours of energy per year). The business opportunity is huge. In the fascinating interview, Eric Hesman of Gridless discusses how his company is partnering with communities in need of energy to provide subsidised power. Marshall Long sets out how his family office is helping with much-needed finance for energy projects in Africa that utilise Bitcoin mining. Together they set out the transformational impact such initiatives could have for the continent.

Alex Gladstein is Chief Strategy Officer at the Human Rights Foundation & Natalie Smolenski is an Executive Director of the Texas Bitcoin Foundation. In this interview, we discuss Alex's new book: 'Hidden Repression: How the IMF and World Bank Sell Exploitation as Development'. We talk about debt traps, western support for dictators, US and UK culpability, and what freedom means. - - - - The IMF and World Bank were originally created to stabilize exchange rates and fund infrastructure in war-torn countries. Alex Gladstein's work found that there was a pivot in this mission in the late 1960s. The new mission was to target and exploit poor countries for the benefit of the West, neocolonialism replacing colonialism, debt replacing the sword. These institutions have been incredibly harmful to poor countries, but also incredibly beneficial for the West through interest payments, extraction of resources and labour, and control of markets. This has been done with only a limited need for military intervention and subjugation through physical means. The wheels of this process have been oiled by the co-option of dictactors in on the steal. Bitcoin is a way out and may bring some justice. However, there must also be a reckoning with the damage done to poor countries by these exploitative policies. The IMF and World Bank have repeatedly prevented free markets from working normally in such countries forcing them deeper into debt. And when the country has inevitably defaulted, damaging structural adjustments have been imposed limiting government expenditure and hurting the most vulnerable. As Alex Gladstein asserts, changing the monetary paradigm, with the growth of Bitcoin, could break the current system and give hope for a more sustainable future. But in that process, we have to be clear about what we need to repair. As Natalie Smolenski states, without a programme of debt cancellation then we could enter a period of significant geopolitical stress.

Allen Farrington is a professional investor and the co-author of Bitcoin Is Venice. In this interview, we discuss the problems with fiat, or as Allen characterizes it "fiat fuckery". We talk about how money printing leads to inflation and a misallocation of capital, the complexity of the fiat system hiding the resultant theft of capital, the slow demise of pension funds, and the confusion around what growth is and isn't. - - - - Fiat currency experiments started centuries ago often resulting in catastrophic failure; since fiat has been ubiquitously assimilated into national economies. Whilst Bitcoiners are well versed in the inherent weaknesses of fiat currencies, there is a general ignorance of the long-lasting consequences for economies and citizens of maintaining an unbending faith in fiat money. Reducing this ignorance is perhaps the best way to grow Bitcoin's adoption. The obvious problem with fiat currency is the tendency for governments to print money to tackle economic exigencies. The impact of this money printing is often inflation, in which prices rise faster than wages and the purchasing power of money is reduced. Eventually, the currency can be debased, causing individuals to lose money without even realising it. There is cruelty at the heart of this process: the complex nature of the fiat economic system means individuals can easily lose money without even knowing it. Many investors make decisions that are far too complicated for them to understand, and so it is easy to get caught up in financial schemes that value money to the detriment of the individual. But, it is the second-order effect of this inflationary impact that is most pernicious. Businesses and investors are seeking to add value, and the inflation rate is the baseline for any return. When inflation increases, this puts pressure on those seeking investments to match or exceed it. The result is investments made in increasingly more speculative projects. This is the misallocation of capital, which starves more productive uses of capital. The obvious topic of conversation following this is how Bitcoin mitigates these problems. This is a question to be debated with Allen Farrington for a future episode. However, understanding what Allen calls "fiat fuckery" is a sound basis for building the why of Bitcoin.

The Rational Root is a Bitcoin on-chain & cycle analyst. In this interview, 9 months on from our last interview, we look into the various Bitcoin price models Root has developed. We again review his Bitcoin Spiral Models, Bitcoin Hodl price models and Bitcoin halving & cycle charts. We discuss the growing evidence of Bitcoin scarcity, and bullish cases as we approach the next halving. - - - - In his first interview on What Bitcoin Did last August, the Rational Root made prescient predictions about Bitcoin bear market lows that occurred a few months later. The caveat is that he also stated "You always have to be a bit sceptical about models that predict the future, they can be wrong." Nevertheless, the models Rational Root has developed have some conspicuous patterns that are worth consideration. The Bitcoin Spiral chart Rational Root uses is incredibly powerful. It clearly shows a correlation between Bitcoin's price and the halving events. Extrapolating this pattern forward suggests we could be on the cusp of a new bullish price triggered by next year's halving. This phase is predicted to see a material price appreciation between $100,000 and $1 million in the next cycle. We also debate whether Bitcoin is now correlated with other more significant asset markets, in particular the S&P 500. In essence, is there a correlation between Bitcoin's price and risk appetite in the investment market? If such a link has been established, and a rescission occurs, this could lead to a deviation from the Bitcoin halving cycle patterns. But perhaps the most bullish analysis Rational Root has undertaken involves the assessment of demand and supply indicators, such as his "Hodl Model", which predicts the growth rate of illiquid supply in Bitcoin. It's simple economics that price is affected by the relationship between demand and supply, and, as Rational Root states "Bitcoin is becoming more scarce, and this data is not being paid attention to by many people."

Matt Corallo is a Bitcoin Core developer and open-source engineer at Block/Spiral. In this interview, we discuss the nexus of ordinals, mining rewards & decentralisation risks. We also talk about the impact of a permanent high fee environment on digital transactions, the challenges faced by Bitcoin wallet developers, and the new wave of talent working on Bitcoin Core. - - - - Bitcoin has come a long way since its inception, but it continues to evolve. The past few months have seen significant discussion regarding the recent development of ordinals, mining rewards, and the challenges of maintaining mining decentralization. In essence, there is a continual battle to ensure Bitcoin's infrastructure is fit for purpose in enabling an uncensorable, trustless settlement of transactions. These challenges are an inevitable part of the development of innovation. Each issue requires a solution, which in turn, leads to new issues. For example, the impact of a high fee environment has been to highlight limitations and risks with the Lightning Network. Then there are the UX issues associated with wallets and issues in relation to compatibility across different protocols. Whilst each of these technical issues requires discussion and understanding, the wider perspective is that there is a perpetual need to improve Bitcoin's infrastructure and continue to maintain its security and decentralisation. Therefore, we need the right environment for developers to learn, collaborate and deliver. And, the wider community needs to be supportive and nurture this talent, protecting them from toxic attacks and iniquitous litigation. There are certainly a number of big organizations out there who understand this and are modestly and diligently working to support people like Matt and others, to allow them in turn to support Bitcoin and the needs of the whole community. And it is certainly encouraging to hear that there is a new wave of developing talent being brought into the Bitcoin Core "team". Whilst this interview reinforces the fact that we can never take the huge efforts being applied for granted, it is still amazing to see the strides being made in the world's most successful open-source project. That we can collaborate voluntarily across the internet to change the world of money, in the face of massive challenges, should leave us all in awe.

Peter St Onge is an Economist at the Heritage Foundation and a Fellow at the Mises Institute. In this interview, we discuss the differences between Keynesian and Austrian economics, the role of marketing in shaping public opinion, and the potential of Bitcoin to displace central banks and cut off one of the main channels that governments use to seize people's resources. - - - - Keynesian economics developed in the wake of the Great Depression of the 1930s. Its aim was to stabilise the volatility caused by market forces through the application of government and central bank resources. Its critics state it has opened up a range of tools that governments have exploited for short-term gain, whilst building up ever greater problems for future generations. Keynes was mocked by major contemporary figures. Winston Churchill, who didn't believe that state borrowing and expenditure could provide permanent additional employment, famously once said "If you put two economists in a room, you get two opinions, unless one of them is Lord Keynes, in which case you get three opinions." And yet, governments, on both sides of the political debate, seem to be currently addicted to greater monetary and fiscal interventions in the economy than at any time since the 1930s. Such actions started in 2008, but have continued apace since. They are a major factor in why global debt now stands at an eye-watering $305 trillion. Hayek, the famous Austrian economist, foresaw the coming crisis, concluding that monetary policy only does harm to an economy. In 1976 he called for the denationalisation of money. In a famous 1984 interview, he stated "I don't believe that we should ever have a good money again before we take the thing out of the hands of government… all we can do is by some sly or roundabout way introduce something they can't stop." Hayek essentially foresaw Bitcoin. Unsurprisingly, Bitcoin's trajectory, as an incorruptible digital hard money, started as the deflated global economy was patched up with Keynesian policies in 2009. Over 14 years later, as these policies become ever more unsustainable, it seems like we're on the cusp of a swing of mainstream opinion away from Keynesian policies, to policies predicated on Austrian economic principles. And Bitcoin could be the centre of this new paradigm.

Jeff Snider is Head of Global Research at Atlas Financial Advisors and Lyn Alden is a macroeconomist and investment strategist. In this interview, they debate whether QE is money printing, if the Treasury market broke in early 2020, dollar shortages, whether there's an ideal form of money, the importance of Bitcoin, and the problems with central and commercial banks. - - - - Lyn Alden and Jeff Snyder are two of the popular economic experts in the Bitcoin space at the moment. They bring much-needed clarity to discussions on economic and financial systems that are lacking in mainstream media. They do, however, disagree on some fundamental issues. This show is a fascinating discourse between two heavyweights who are at the top of their game. The discussion starts with a debate on the mechanics and implications of quantitative easing (QE), and the role of central banks and commercial banks in money circulation. Lyn and Jeff explore whether QE constitutes money printing, the impact of fiscal deficits on inflation, and the liquidity problems in the treasury market. The discussion then focuses on the emergence and acceptance of different currencies in the global market (including Bitcoin), the role of central banks, the importance of a currency's availability and infrastructure in its acceptance, and the challenges of achieving a self-contained monetary system without central banks or authorities. Lyn and Jeff cover the relationship between debt and economic growth, the concept of a "bail-in," and the need for a sensical monetary structure with the right rules and parameters. They also consider whether there is an ideal money, or, whether the monetary system needs to be dynamic such that it can evolve and adapt to a changing world where new demands arise.

Troy Cross is a Professor of Philosopher and Fellow at BPI, and Harry Sudock is Chief Strategy Officer at Griid. This interview was a live recording made at the Bitcoin 2023 Conference in Miami, where we discussed Bitcoin mining: the industry's rapid evolution, how it's optimising other markets, and why its relentless search for cheap energy will facilitate human flourishing. - - - - Bitcoin mining has been the subject of much controversy and debate in mainstream media. The infamous New York Times (NYT) article in April still casts a shadow over the industry: the piece characterised Bitcoin mining as an exploitative parasite feeding off cheap energy at the expense of local users and the environment. And yet, Bitcoin mining is the exact opposite. As Troy Cross states in this live interview, when people get to hear the truth about Bitcoin mining's impact on energy systems it "blows their minds!" Harry Sudock adds more colour by explaining how Bitcoin mining is a black hole that sucks in economic utility and spits it out in its most efficient form, making it a revolutionary tool for human flourishing. Both speakers criticize the media for pushing a biased agenda and cherry-picking data to fit a preconceived narrative. They argue that the truth about Bitcoin mining's impact on energy systems is more complex than the media portrays, but, this doesn't provide the clickbait media outlets are after. The irony is that the NYT's mission is "to seek the truth and help people understand the world." However, we are optimistic that the tide will soon turn. With this show, both Harry and Troy have been on What Bitcoin Did now a combined 13 times (lucky for us!), and they continue to blow our minds with their tales of the possible worlds opened up by the race for cheap and abundant energy. The other side just doesn't have the calibre of persuasive, authentic and enthusiastic voices we have.

Jason Maier is a teacher and the author of 'A Progressive's Case for Bitcoin'. In this interview, we discuss the importance of teaching money and Bitcoin in schools, the future of education in the shadow of AI, and the challenges of having a public persona. We also talk about the feedback Jason has received since publishing his book and Bitcoin's potential to bring people together. - - - - It is a common feature of any orange pilling exercise that most people are blissfully ignorant of the inherent weakness and structurally unjust nature of the monetary system. And yet, school curriculums are shockingly devoid of requiring schools to provide even rudimentary information on how economies, money and individuals interact. We are a financially illiterate generation. Then there is the impact of technological changes on students. AI is rapidly changing the world in ways forecasters are struggling to predict. It is obvious that most schools aren't equipping students to enter a world of constant technological revolution. A world in which Bitcoin may play a significant role. Therefore, as the world continues to evolve, the need for education that prepares students for the future is becoming increasingly essential. Students are generally receptive to new ideas and have the agility in being able to develop the skills required to exploit new opportunities opened up by technology. The issue is with the conservative nature of the education system, which in turn is heavily influenced by biases and misconceptions. In this podcast, Jason Maeir shares his experiences in educating students about Bitcoin, and the influence of the emerging properties of AI upon education. There is a fundamental need to change educational principles away from rote learning (i.e. knowing stuff) to developing more holistic skills such as critical thinking, problem-solving and creativity. These have been traditionally seen as 'soft skills', but they are in fact the bridge between technology and humans. The goal is to improve productivity and intelligence in a society that is more equal and fair. And it all starts with improving our education.

Nic Carter is a Partner at Castle Island Ventures and co-founder and Chairman of Coin Metrics. In this interview, we discuss Real Bedford, ordinals, the Bitcoin fee market, Bitcoin culture wars, layer 2 innovations, Chokepoint 2.0 and the 2022 banking crisis, and how people can stand up for Bitcoin against the current US administration. - - - - In categorising a covert attempt by the executive branch to restrict access to Bitcoin and crypto as a modern iteration of Operation Chokepoint, Nic Carter has brought much-needed attention to an otherwise nebulous sense of unease. Nic has clarified the meaning behind a series of different events, tying together inconsistent messages and suspicious decisions. His explicit analysis has even garnered the attention of a presidential candidate, Robert F Kennedy Jnr. At face value, Chokepoint 2.0 is about the government's hostility towards the crypto industry in the wake of FTX. That Bitcoin will be ensnared in this dragnet is of obvious concern. An innovation that could revolutionise and democratise money and energy could be restricted within the world's leading economy. However, there is a bigger issue here: the circumvention of democratic norms. These restrictions are occurring without debate or scrutiny. Then, to add import on top of import, there is the underlying rationale for these restrictions. In a week when the debt ceiling is again the subject of political horse-trading to allow sovereign debt to continue to grow to evermore eye-watering levels, these restrictions are an implicit imposition of soft capital controls on the American people. So, we have unprecedented restrictions on people's freedoms to protect stores of value being done behind closed doors. Put bluntly, the US government's attempts to restrict the growth of the crypto industry by leaning on private banks are unconstitutional and violate due process. The social contract is being broken. Nic has suggested that injured parties should join efforts to sue the government to enable legal oversight of these decisions. In his opinion, this is a lawsuit that can be won.

John D'Agostino is the Institutional Lead for Advisory and Strategic Partnerships at Coinbase. In this interview, we discuss his background working for the New York Mercantile Exchange, seeking out enjoyment, and the flip side of getting kidnapped. We also talk about the maturity of the Bitcoin market, covering both the regulatory threats and institutional appetite. - - - - John D'Agostino is certainly a unique character. He was the subject of a best-selling book back in 2007 after he set out to open up the first oil exchange in the Middle East, which acted as a catalyst for capital markets in the region. However, his life has produced enough for more than a single book: he is the first person I have spoken to who has been kidnapped. As someone who seeks out new exciting opportunities, it's not a surprise that John landed a prominent position within the digital assets industry. As a senior advisor to Coinbase, he's well-positioned to reflect on the state of the industry as it navigates a period of uncertainty. Post FTX, what is the direction of government regulation in the US and abroad? Furthermore, what are institutional investors waiting to do? John sets out what he sees as a huge gap between the US and the rest of the world in terms of digital asset regulation. And yet, not least because of the popular support for digital assets among the electorate, he views this as being a temporary situation which provides international players with a headstart over the US. John is strongly optimistic about the future of Bitcoin and other digital assets, particularly because of the potential to unlock value through programmable and immutable instruments. He's also seeing the backed-up demand from institutional investors, just waiting for regulatory clarity. He's been part of shaping change in the financial world once already. Who'd bet against him doing it again?

James Seyffart is an analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence covering ETFs. In this interview, we discuss the how and why of ETFs, Grayscale's legal battle with the SEC over the approval of a Bitcoin ETF, and the complexities of Grayscale implementing a redemption program for GBTC. We also talk about the role of the SEC in regulating Bitcoin and Gary Gensler's political ambitions. - - - - In two months' time, it will be the 10-year anniversary of the Winklevoss Twins making the first submission to the SEC for a Bitcoin spot ETF. When the SEC rejected this in 2017, it seemed as though it was a temporary blip, and that a US Bitcoin spot ETF would inevitably be approved. And yet, the SEC has rejected a raft of subsequent applications, and many more sit in Gary Gensler's inbox awaiting a decision. Grayscale has decided to test the SEC's stance in court. Whilst there are various opinions as to the underlying motivation for Grayscale taking on this case, there is no doubt that this is the best test of the SEC's current intransigence in relation to a Bitcoin spot ETF. Bloomberg Intelligence's James Seyffart, an ETF expert, provides his informed opinion on the current status of Grayscale's case, the likelihood of the SEC losing the case, and whether this will affect the SEC's position of a Bitcoin spot ETF. He also sets out why the SEC is so reluctant to approve what many in the community believe would open up Bitcoin to a new massive wave of adoption.

Arthur Hayes is an entrepreneur and the former CEO of BitMEX. In my first interview with Arthur, we discuss the state of the world at the moment: what happened with FTX, money printing, the coming collapse, debt jubilees, the need to acquire assets outside the system like Bitcoin, good and bad AI scenarios, and a powder keg of issues that'll hit the markets this fall. - - - - Arthur Hayes was the co-founder and former CEO of BitMEX, which was one of the largest crypto exchanges and derivatives platforms. In 2021, its average daily trading volume was over $2 billion. Hayes was famously charged in the southern district of New York for violating the Bank Secrecy Act. He got 2 years probation and a $10 million fine. But Hayes remains an authoritative voice within the crypto and Bitcoin communities. Nic Carter called him "One of the good guys of crypto." He now has a mission to help spread financial literacy and educate investors, which he does through regular medium posts, columns in leading journals and interviews with podcasters. And, he has a knack for calling the market. In this short interview, we pack in a surprising number of issues: Hayes's investment strategy, and views on crypto and Bitcoin; opinions on the FTX scandal; fragility in the banking sector; historical currency debasements and the inevitability of a coming collapse; the use of debt jubilees to right society; investing in assets that can weather the coming storm; the impacts of AI; and the debt ceiling.

Tor Ekeland & Mike Hassard are defence attorneys representing a Swedish-Russian national, Roman Sterlingov, arrested in early 2021 by the IRS at LAX. He was accused of creating and operating the Bitcoin Fog mixing service to launder over $300 million. He had his assets seized and was incarcerated. He's awaiting trial. Tor and Mike are still trying to find corroborating evidence. But they've uncovered conflicts of interest within the DoJ. - - - - Roman Sterlingov has been accused of running Bitcoin Fog, a Bitcoin mixer, and laundering $334 million. On a prima facie basis it seems like a case of the state acting to crack down on nefarious darknet activities. But, delve deeper, as Roman's lawyers Tor Ekeland & Mike Hassard have done, and it raises serious questions about what the DoJ and various companies are willing to do for selfish motives. Firstly, there is a distinct lack of evidence against Roman. No evidence has been found on any computer, thumb drive or server that links Roman to the crimes he's accused of. The evidence that does exist has been produced by the blockchain forensics company Chainanalysis. But as yet this evidence is not open to scrutiny, and, such evidence has never been challenged in court. Secondly, the case highlights numerous material conflicts of interest within the DoJ and Chainalysis. A revolving door between the DoJ and Big Tech is a well-known issue. Then there's the use of cases such as Roman's to help build the reputation of Chainalysis, helping it to gain a multi billion dollar valuation. The profit incentive has and does skew criminal prosecutions in the US. And lastly, there's the overreach of the DoJ, and the tactics it is employing to arrest and prosecute individuals. Roman's case is a high-stakes situation for both Roman, the Bitcoin community and the wider public. If Roman loses, he could face 50 years to life in prison. If unchallenged, it could also set a dangerous precedent and allow the government to expand its jurisdiction globally through the internet.

Pascal Gauthier is the CEO of Ledger, NVK is the founder of Coinkite, Matt Odell is a podcaster and Bitcoin educator and Harry Sudock is Cheif Strategy Officer at Griid. In this interview, we host a group discussion, regarding Ledger's Recover firmware update. We talk about the questions this update has raised about the trade-offs between mitigating seed recovery risk over state seizure risks. - - - - Full disclosure, Ledger is a sponsor of the What Bitcoin Did Podcast. Just under a week ago, Ledger launched a seed recovery service called Ledger Recover. There was an immediate backlash on Twitter, with various prominent voices raising concerns about the security implications. Fundamentally, does this feature open up users to hacking or state seizure risks? Or, is this a useful service that will support efforts to get more users to self-custody? The purpose of this show was to enable Pascal Gauthier, the CEO of Ledger, to explain the aims of Ledger's seed recovery service, and the methods employed to protect users. The show then enabled trusted independent and prominent voices within the community (including a Ledger competitor) to set out their concerns and discuss them openly with Pascal. Should security for Bitcoin be provided using open or closed-source software? Given the challenges in providing robust security, are there any acceptable trade-offs? Can we afford anything less than full transparency from commercial companies involved in Bitcoin security? The rudimentary issue is whether Bitcoin security should be regarded as a binary choice. Should we as a community should aim for a minimum expectation of security? Or, should we take the world as it is and pragmatically make incremental improvements to people's security? Can we afford as a community to have the majority of people custody on exchanges? Or, do we strive for higher ideals than seeing self-custody as an end in itself?

Jason Lowery is a Major in the US Space Force and author of Softwar: A Novel Theory on Power Projection and the National Strategic Significance of Bitcoin. In this interview, we discuss how he is building the case within the US Department of Defence that Bitcoin represents a new form of digital warfare that the US government needs to embrace to secure its power projection in cyberspace. - - - - Jason Lowery burst onto the Bitcoin scene in August 2021. When a senior member of the US Space Force enters the Bitcoin debate it tends to turn heads! But, it was his novel projections of what value Bitcoin presents to society that generated interest and controversy. Bitcoiners have long espoused Bitcoin as a peaceful revolution. Jason thinks Bitcoin can be used as a tool of warfare. In Softwar, Jason's recently released book on the national strategic significance of Bitcoin, he explains the background of modern warfare, tracing its roots back to the struggle for survival in all forms of life. From single-cell organisms upwards, all of life is involved in a fight for control over resources and territory. Competition has resulted in an ecological arms race manifested through evolutionary cycles of improvements in physical power and the projection of that power. Softwar explains that humans are just another life form involved in this competition for survival. Humans, however, have become increasingly efficient at power projection techniques, from wielding fire to using nuclear weapons. Now, as we accelerate through the digital age, humans need to develop and harness new and innovative methods to maintain their advantages over adversaries. In his role within Space Force, which is developing the means to project power beyond our planet, Jason has been contemplating what other tools will be required as another arena for competition opens up: cyberspace. Jason argues that Bitcoin has the potential to be a revolutionary cybersecurity system. Proof of Work is an innovation that moves the fight to the enemy, imposing a cost on those wishing to undertake an attack. Softwar is a call to action for the US Department of Defence to adopt Bitcoin as a tool of warfare in the new cyberspace battlefield. Whilst designed to secure money, PoW can in theory be used to secure other forms of data. Whether you agree with this assertion or not, Jason is making progress within the DoD in arguing Bitcoin's utility makes it too important for the Department of Treasury and Federal Reserve jurisdiction. And who would bet against the DoD in a fight!

Michael Saylor is the CEO of MicroStrategy. In this interview, we discuss his 10 rules for lfie, the opportunities and threats of AI, the importance of Bitcoin in an automated world, the strength of ossification compared to accelerating change, and the criticality of Bitcoin miners to the Bitcoin network. We also talk about Michael's navigation of the bear market. - - - - Chat GPT was released a little over 6 months ago. It is arguably the most significant tech innovation since the internet. People are now routinely using chatbots to interact with technology and access information tailored to very specific needs. Whilst the impacts of this are yet to be fully understood, it is widely accepted that we have entered a new exciting and equally frightening paradigm. The issue at hand is that the world is becoming increasingly automated. As a result, human beings are being viewed as a constraint on productivity, which AI technology can mitigate. Where does this leave humans? In a world predicated on code and efficiency and automation, what controls are in place to ensure these systems are secure such that they can not be centralised and exploited such that the general population suffers rather than flourishes? Michael Saylor is of the opinion we need an automated tool that is secure and outside of any centralised control. Bitcoin, in this scenario, is the tool that can compete with new digital advances, but, enable humans to retain some control of their lives. As such, it is imperative that we protect the integrity of the innovation such that its utility remains available for both existing and future generations. The question then becomes how do we best protect Bitcoin? Saylor argues that it is the Bitcoin miners that are Bitcoin's "fortresses": they provide brute force security, a cryptographic defence, and the means to marshall the means to advocate effectively for Bitcoin within the corridors of power. Bitcoin miners, therefore, need protection to ensure they continue to act as Bitcoin's standing army. We do this by ensuring stability: ossifying Bitcoin's base layer protocol.