TPToA Podcast 416 – K-Pop Demon Hunters

Dion 

Ohh hello and welcome to the periodic Table of awesome. Well, we’re getting on to this Tuesday night, going down the good old road of something Netflix. Are you related? Hello. Yes. 

Quinny 

Hello, we’re going down. And we’re going down, down, down. 

Speaker 3 

I know. 

Quinny 

What, John, why aren’t? 

Dion 

You singing. I don’t understand the concept. What the **** is happening? This is not a regular. Hi. My name is Dion. I’m joined tonight by Queenie and I’m joined by Jill. And I’m joined by Beck. Pop. Hello, pop. It’s been a while. Thanks for joining us. This one. 

Quinny 

Hey, welcome back. 

Dion 

Because yeah, for your viewing pleasure, you’re helping us talk about K pop. 

Ardella 

I am. I am this cultural phenomenon has been on repeat in my household for the last month, so I’m thrilled to talk about it. 

Speaker 

Hi. 

Jill 

Oh. 

Dion 

Oh. 

Ardella 

On the Internet. 

Dion 

A month. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah. 

Ardella 

OK, we are late to this party. 

Dion 

I am but I I’m 100% late to this party only because. Yeah, sorry. 

Quinny 

All right. 

Dion 

Good to you. 

Quinny 

No, no, no. I like I said, I actually talked about it. I don’t know the weekend it came out or the like. I watched it because I had nothing else on. I was sitting on the couch and I was like, that looks entertaining. I’ll just put that on in the background. And was then kind of like this is ******* cool. And then when in the next episode, I’m like Jill, Jill, Jill, you gotta you gotta check it out. You gotta check it. And she’s like. 

Jill 

Like, leave me alone. Otherwise I won’t watch. 

Speaker 4 

Yeah, yeah. And then the. 

Quinny 

It was like Jill, Jill, Penny, Penny, Penny, Penny, Penny, and she’s like, leave me alone. 

Jill 

Next, let’s do yeah. Sorry, it’s it’s the Aries. You can’t tell me what to do. 

Quinny 

Yeah, the license. 

Ardella 

Can I just say though, despite being one of the longest bloody trailers in the world, I. I’m so impressed by how little it manages to give away, and I wonder if we can manage to give away a similar level of not spoilers. 

Jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah, we can. We can. I mean we can. We also do a. Spoilery bit after we’ve done the thing, but. 

Ardella 

I remember how this works. 

Quinny 

OK, OK. 

Ardella 

I also remember that we often suck it, not giving too many spoilers in the free spoiler bit. 

Quinny 

This is a good point. Well made. 

Jill 

OK, we’re going to be as vague as. 

Quinny 

Possible. Yeah. So how did your come to it? Did you just find it on Netflix? Did did somebody recommend? 

Jill 

It to you. I know. Yeah. Somebody annoyed. Me to watch it, yeah. 

Dion 

No, Quinn. He made me watch it. 

Ardella 

Yes. Yeah. Did he tape your eyelids open and struck you to the chair? Yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah, it’s 100% Clockwork Orange, me. For this but but I’ve got this. 

Speaker 1 

Yep. 

Quinny 

And I’m not sad. I’m not. I’m not. Embarrassed about that? 

Dion 

I’ve got this weird. Sort of tick now that I have to keep kind of doing this and I feel like I need to do choreographed dances every now and again. So I don’t know what’s happening. I don’t know anything about. 

Jill 

Can teach you. 

Quinny 

See, I don’t think we were fully aware that Beck was as into this as not as until like you you posted a video to us. You’re like look at. 

Dion 

Excellent. 

Speaker 4 

This did you dance? 

Dion 

Like ohh OK, you know, we’re gonna talk about stuff that, like quite blatantly. I have absolutely no ******* idea what’s going on. 

Jill 

I mean. 

Dion 

We might as well open the floor up to people who do know what the **** is. 

Ardella 

Going on, but have you watched it dear? 

Dion 

Yes, I watched it from the start to the last song. 

Ardella 

Great. How? How the **** do you still? Have no idea what is going on then. 

Dion 

Have you seen the film? 

Ardella 

It’s a very cromulent storyline. 

Speaker 2 

No wonder. 

Dion 

Here’s what’s going on. They’re just doing things on screen and singing songs and going. This is good. Yeah. And you’re watching it. 

Jill 

Yeah, pop music is a part of Concepto dialog. OK, yeah. 

Dion 

Sure. 

Ardella 

Dion should never go and see a. 

Jill 

Thank you. 

Speaker 13 

Musical is what? 

Ardella 

We’re hearing this is an even musical. 

Quinny 

No, no. 

Speaker 13 

Devil story. 

Dion 

No, this isn’t far off though. 

Speaker 13 

Season. 

Dion 

This is it. Musical level storytelling and I watched it. And I’m not saying like things are bad or weird or out of my comfort zone. It’s just it’s not really for me. 

Speaker 3 

Dion 

And that’s OK, you know. 

Ardella 

You’re allowed to be wrong. 

Jill 

He often is. 

Quinny 

Also I I will point out that that Dean had had a very, very long bad day by the time that this came onto his screen and I kind of get the feeling that it was like. 

Speaker 4 

Oh. 

Quinny 

Is that a reasonably accurate description deal? 

Dion 

Look, you know I’m not. I’m able to separate church and state here. I can understand the value of something even though my personal opinions may have coloured it slightly. That being said, I still don’t really know what’s going on in Capot demon. 

Jill 

Would you? Would you like this is not. 

Speaker 4 

Let’s let’s have us. 

Dion 

I mean, sure, if you think I’ve got it, I wonder if I’ve got any music somewhere. Hang on a second. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah. OK. K pop. Hang on. What voice am I doing? 

Speaker 13 

Nothing, right? 

Quinny 

Well, that’s it. Somebody else better do. 

Dion 

Ohh no. 

Quinny 

OK, K pop demon hunters tells the story of A K pop girl group called Hunt Tricks, who are also demon hunters tasked with protecting the world from demons from for their king Guimar. They use their music to maintain a magical barrier called the honeymoon, and work towards strengthening. Hit into the golden Hon moon. Which would permanently vanish. 

Ardella 

Day and age of Tik toking. And if you’re my age, Instagram, reeling a week after it’s appeared on TikTok. We’ve basically have a a huge collection of people who’ve basically seen half the movie through real. Or tick tocks and then go. OK, I may as well go and watch this movie now. So I think that a lot of people have had that experience when Quinny mentioned it. I then was like, let’s watch the trailer for this and was on board after watching the trailer and. 

Speaker 1 

Mm-hmm. 

Ardella 

My partner and I sat down and. Watched it over Friday night. We were amazed by the number of layers that this movie has that you do not get from the trailer, and I was on board just with what that surface level stuff was already. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was the thing that surprised me. It was just the the like from a trailer, like or because I didn’t even see a trailer. I just saw it pop up on Netflix, as you know, the the, The little preview that starts playing. And I was like. 

Ardella 

Yeah, that’s the trailer. 

Quinny 

Well, but it I didn’t even watch the whole thing like it was just sort of there in the background and I was. I don’t know what that is. But **** it looks cool. 

Dion 

Did you just hit it like a fricking pokie machine button? As soon as it popped up, you were like chin, let’s do this. 

Quinny 

My good addition. Yeah, sorry, Jill. You’re gonna. 

Jill 

Say something. Yeah, I think at the time, quinny, when you said. Hey, Jill, have you watched K pop demon hunters yet? I think my best friend had also watched it and had, like. Posted a story about it and all I heard all over Instagram was the the main song from it Golden. It was on everything and not just like animated clips of the movie, but like just people’s reels. They’re using that song. And so I was like, oh, no. 

Speaker 4 

Hmm. 

Jill 

This is the hype zone. Jill doesn’t like being. 

Speaker 4 

5th. 

Jill 

In the hype zone. Jill wants to avoid ever watching stuff that gets into the hype zone. I still have not watched Everything Everywhere, all at once because it got too hyped, so this was heading in that direction and went. Queenie, when you said to me, have you watched it yet? I was like, I’ll get to it. 

Ardella 

Was interesting that you mentioned that Jill, because there are theme crossovers. 

Jill 

Yeah. So I don’t push me. But then I. Kept hearing the bloody music. I’m like ****, this is a catchy song and then I think it got to like the following weekend and I’m like, I’m not gonna talk to anybody about this, but I’m gonna watch. 

Speaker 

It. 

Jill 

And I was like, oh, that’s great. 

Quinny 

Because I’ve seen so many people who, like, have watched it, and then it’s just become their whole personality. 

Jill 

Ohh yeah, I mean that was on heavy rotation like the album it was. It became a hyper fixation for a. 

Quinny 

Yes. 

Jill 

Week. 

Dion 

Wait, so can I just get this one like coming into this just a little bit blind, you know, from this whole stuff. So you’re telling me that there are real people in the real world that saw the small part of this and it’s become a hyper fixed? 

Speaker 4 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Which is mirroring the fact that the fans of this band in the fake world have a hyper fixation problem. 

Ardella 

So interestingly, interestingly, the soda pop song by the Demon Boy Band for a very long time there took over the charts from the actual you know, K pop boy band of the moment BTS. 

Quinny 

You say? 

Speaker 4 

Oh yes. 

Dion 

The soju boys. I love the soju boys, they’re great. 

Speaker 4 

Ohh I love some soju. 

Quinny 

Beck, how do you feel about this? Pineapple surgery. 

Speaker 1 

What? 

Dion 

Soulja boys. 

Jill 

I like the lemon one, it’s. 

Dion 

Delicious. 

Jill 

Kind of funky, but it’s good. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the one with the six pack. 

Ardella 

But what’s what’s really interesting about the soundtrack to this as compared to a traditional musical, is in a traditional musical, you’ve always got that one song that everyone skips or tunes out goes to the bathroom during it’s usually the one that the token old man sings. 

Jill 

Ohh OK. 

Speaker 13 

But. 

Ardella 

If you think about it, is. 

Quinny 

It’s the talk singing 1. You give it to the guy who can barely sing. 

Jill 

Ohh yeah yeah. Jeff Goldblum. Number in wicked. Yeah, exactly. 

Ardella 

There are no low points in this soundtrack and. 

Quinny 

In new tiles. 

Ardella 

I think even. The one song that when I was watching the movie for the first time I was like, this is kind of my bathroom breaks on. When I went back and listened to the soundtrack. 

Speaker 13 

Through by. 

Ardella 

Wolf it was still a banger. I was still singing along. I was still fully on board. I was finding all the hidden messages in the lyrics. I don’t think there is a a dud on this soundtrack. 

Quinny 

Nope. And as of 2 days ago, Golden went to literal #1 on the Billboard chart like it’s ******* stupid. 

Ardella 

Something that’s really cool about the creatives behind this entire movie is that the movie has so many authentic South Korean cultural elements to it that it has become huge in South Korea as well. And many, many people there. 

Speaker 3 

Hmm. 

Ardella 

Absolutely love it, which is so wonderful because there have has been a lot of outcry in the past about South Korean culture being misrepresented. And this is a wonderful example of cultural appreciation rather than appropriation, and one of the reasons behind that is that they have actually included many South Korean genuine K pop stars and producers, writers, and the singing voice of. The main main individual from home tricks. She was a K pop star in training who went away to go to school and stopped Kpop training. And when she came back to try and be a K pop star they told her she was too old and couldn’t do it. Anymore. And so she became a writer and a producer. Of K pop music instead, and now is singing on this and has gone to the top of the charts so incredibly hard. And I think that that lends this incredible authenticity to it, but also is kind of like a stuff you to the industry at the same time, which is amazing. 

Dion 

Because it’s look, it’s a curious thing about the the making of it, because actually, yes, I did. I watched the whole thing and then I even watched the credits where they showed all the behind the scenes bits of the people in there. And I thought that was really interesting. And then reading more about it and trying to find out more about it. I was like, oh, that’s interesting that they have. A bunch of Korean American. Others. Doing the voice work, but then a bunch of South Korean singers doing the song work and I was just a little bit like oh, oh, OK like why, why the need for the split like? 

Ardella 

They’re two different skill sets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Quinny 

You you don’t find that many actors who can sing that ******* well. Like who can sing to the level that is required of. 

Ardella 

Yeah. The vocal range in golden is outstanding. That is like 3 octaves of belting. That’s insanity. 

Dion 

I’m asking the question to not because I’m attacking the I’m not asking the question because I might. Why? They have to get more. You know, why is it a whole bunch of different sort of people in there? 

Jill 

Deon, Every Disney musical movie had a talking voice actress and a singing voice actress as well. It was. 

Dion 

I’m pretty sure John Oliver did all the singing for his parts as Zazu, right? 

Ardella 

Not all. Yeah, not all of them. I think the more recent ones like Moana, the. 

Dion 

Of course I know. 

Jill 

Yeah. The more, yeah, I mean, the classic ones, I mean the ones from the. 

Ardella 

Voice actor sings as well. 

Jill 

90s when we were kids. 

Ardella 

Yeah. Speaking of which. 

Dion 

Sure. 

Jill 

Yes, the travesty of casting Leah Salonga in this movie. 

Ardella 

Yeah. And then giving her 30 seconds of background vocals to do. Leah Salonga was the singing voice of Jasmine and Mulan, and is an incredible musical theatre. 

Jill 

Yeah, crazy. 

Ardella 

Actress and amazing singer and is in there as like the the main mentor character for the Huntress Girls. And has no real singing. It’s so background that I didn’t even notice when it happened. 

Jill 

It’s devastating, but. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah. Like, like putting, I don’t know. One of the. Yeah. Mariah Carey is a background character. 

Speaker 3 

Yeah, yeah. Like what? 

Ardella 

Mariah would never let that happen. 

Quinny 

No, no, absolutely not. So what was it about it that that sort of caught your eye? Immediately because I know what put me on the back foot straight away and made me go. That’s different. But I’d love to. Know what you guys thought? 

Dion 

What? What? Yeah. So there’s two. There’s two parts in that which which caught your eye. And there was a bit that caught you on the back foot which. 

Quinny 

Was your question what? What caught your what? One you were talking about excited you, really. Grabbed you. What? 

Dion 

Was that what put you? What put you on the front foot? Linked you into this show? 

Quinny 

The. What? Yeah, yeah. 

Jill 

The music I think, like I I enjoy the odd K pop. I’m. I’m not a die hard. I’m not a I don’t have a bias. I’m not like fully into the K pop culture. But I do enjoy the music peripherally, and so I thought like the songs were so catchy. And then when I saw, like, some of the animated stuff, I’m like, ohh, that’s very reminiscent of the spider verse animation. And then I realized it was a Sony thing. And then I’m like, OK. Well, this is probably going to be good. 

Ardella 

Yeah. I think the thing that put me off was the time. 

Speaker 4 

Well. 

Ardella 

What the hell is that? Title K pop Demon Hunters makes me think that this is trash and it is trash, but the best kind of crack trash. It’s amazing. 

Jill 

Quinny 

MHM. 

Jill 

OK, you know what? It’s 100% tapped into for me was the female power story, but based in music like. I was one of those kids that was like ohh yeah, I wanna be in a girl band like that was like one of my fantasy things when I was. A child, but. Also, like yeah, being a superhero too. And like Sailor Moon. Is so intrinsic for me. It really had those kind of vibes of like, you know, magical girls that can save the planet. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Yeah, that’s one of the first things I why I was like, ohh you would love it. Just for the magical girl factor. Like the the costume changes the. 

Speaker 4 

What’s this? 

Quinny 

The that that very Sailor Moon kind of vibe. 

Ardella 

What’s so interesting for me about? The introduction, just the opening sequence was that. 

Speaker 2 

Hmm. 

Speaker 

That. 

Ardella 

Funky kind of intro music. The the K pop music that it starts with reminds me a lot of earlier K pop when I was into it and some of my South Korean friends just roll their eyes at me because I think that my idea of K pop is like someone. These days, being like my favorite band is the Backstreet Boys. You know, it’s like ohh sweetie. 

Jill 

OK.

Ardella 

There we go. Yeah, you’re you’re the the shush now, grandma. Everything’s fine. Because my my favourites were like the Wonder Girls. And you know quite quite early K pop. I think, you know, compared to what’s in today, but. 

Dion 

You can. 

Ardella 

It’s just so funky and fun, and the fact that. It immediately started with the classic K pop mixing of Korean lyrics in with English lyrics, and then the flip to rap in there as well, and the rap being in both Korean and English, it really grabbed me in that I was like, OK, this is. Actually K pop it, it’s not just in the name, they are actually going with it and I found it really interesting learning afterwards that the K pop element was the last thing to be added into this storyline. 

Dion 

Yeah. 

Ardella 

Interesting. Yeah, that that was the last kind of piece of the puzzle when they were developing this movie was creating it as a K pop story. 

Dion 

Which is very strange because I think the thing that made me. Sort of get on board a bit with it. Like a bit more was the fact that it was self aware enough to understand some of? The. Insanity behind massive mass market fandom? Not that anyone is immune to it, like it’s all around when you go looking hard and you know the West. The West has borrowed from the that that world very heavily in the past. Our last Spice Girls etcetera, etcetera. 

Quinny 

Not that hard. 

Dion 

Was the ability for it to just to be self aware take a bit of fun, have a bit of fun with it, and then continue on go like, yeah, we acknowledge that there’s this there is there is some weird **** that happens in that world and we’re just going to lean into it and understand that it’s part of it. And then move. For with the rest of it, you know, apart from the animation is great and the characters were somewhat likeable. 

Quinny 

There, there, there are two things that got me straight up. So initially looking at it, I thought oh, wow, this reminds me of what, KD A yeah, which, you know, is the the League of Legends K Pop group. And I was like, OK, we’re obviously kind of gonna. Yes. That’s the thing there. 

Dion 

Thank you. You’re not like you’re saying things like Katie and I’m like, wait, is it three letter acronym? Should I know? What the **** is going on here? Kill. Kill, death, aggression. 

Quinny 

K/BA. 

Dion 

Right, OK. So just just help me with. This it’s a foreign territory. 

Quinny 

They they are a a AK pop group that was done by the animation company that did League of Legends. So they’ve they’ve got a couple of songs that I actually have no idea how many songs they have about that. And I looked at that and I thought, OK, there’s a touch point. But the thing that and I have the same thing. Hip hop demon hunters. What a stupid ******* name. But watching it, I got to about 5 minutes in and the moment that they’re on the plane and. And they allowed their characters to be ugly and to do stupid faces. And they’re beautiful characters who are fully, you know, gorgeous and made-up, and everything are burping and, like, eating ramen and fighting like ******* demons. But at the same time, they are. Very, very comedic and and I was like oh. ****, this is really kind of like as as soon as I watch it. I was like, this is gonna play to a a female crowd so. Well because it’s not saying look at these perfect, you know, pristine things. These are people who just want to have snacks and lie on the couch and you know relax and be ******* normal. Humans, but at the same time, they want to be super powerful. You know, warlocks that are protecting the world from demons and **** like that. Like this is every little girl’s ******* dream combined and. I was like, holy ****. 

Jill 

Yeah, like women can be multifaceted. They’re not just put into one box. 

Quinny 

The power of that. 

Jill 

As one thing. 

Ardella 

They can, but there’s absolutely no way an actual K pop band would be allowed to pig out on. 

Speaker 4 

Junk. Yeah, that’s the thing. It’s. 

Ardella 

That’s not happening in the real life world, I’m sorry to say. That is. I mean, when we think about. 

Dion 

But but but. The dropping in out of a plane? Sure. 

Speaker 4 

Just. 

Ardella 

Kind of disbelief there. Day on. Yeah, carries through. It carries through. But I do think that it’s interesting having that acknowledgement of. I mean it, it’s it’s an an issue, an underlying issue. I think the treatment of pop stars and this isn’t just a problem in South Korea with K pop or in Japan with J Pop, although it’s a very similar kind of culture from my understanding, yeah, in the their K pop J pop. Machines that churn out these bands that are designed and kind of almost bread to create hype and money and. All of this, we see it in like Dan was saying in. The Spice Girls. 

Quinny 

Yep. 

Ardella 

As well, we see it in these manufactured bands that have been created to take our love and to take our money, OK. 

Quinny 

The eagles. 

Jill 

There’s literally another program on Netflix right now called building the band. 

Ardella 

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I think it’s really interesting then to look at our K pop demon band. And see that they are. They’re they’re saying the quiet part out loud with with the demon boy band here. But the reality is that that is what all K pop bands are. They are there to take the love to take the energy and to take the money of their fans. And they’ve been created. Expressly to do that. And so I I just find that really interesting to have. That kind of duality on display where we’re saying no hunt tricks are the the good guys when the reality is that. All K pop bands are there to do exactly what the Demon Boy band are doing. 

Dion 

Yes. 

Quinny 

And that duality is also encompassed in the lead character as well that, yeah, there are so many elements of things that she is not comfortable with. There’s elements of her public perception that she’s not comfortable with and. You kind of like the stories of the three characters. You know that that one of them is the bad girl who doesn’t get on with her family. The other ones come from, you know, America and is is a a rapper, but she’s also really sweet. All of these things are. Prepackaged they’re made to make them assailable, you know, definable feature. 

Ardella 

A personality. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, that people can latch on to, but then you’re also watching and going. Yeah, they’re really funny. And they’re really cool. And I like them. And, you know, they’re they’re little horn dogs. And they, they, they just turn into popcorn and. 

Dion 

Thank, thankfully. Yeah, I mean, thankfully, you know, they they expressed all those lessons and of course that was the end of it. And this is all we have when. There’s one. Oh, no. That’s why there’s going to be sequels and a TV show and a live stage show. And it’s like, oh, oh, no, the demons won. Ohh no. 

Jill 

That’s one thing that I I would like to talk about a bit more is like the actual structure of the story. I know we’re not gonna give anything away, but I was interested that it was a movie. TV and not a TV series because I felt like there could have been a lot more character development actually happened throughout a TV series. I wanted more about the back story of the girl’s mentor. I wanted a little bit more time with the Saga boys in the demon. From in general, yeah, just a little bit more fleshing out of story I thought would be great. 

Ardella 

Apparently it was originally 3 hours long and I. Saw. Someone, I think it might have been tally in the in the chat mentioned that earlier. 

Jill 

I’d watch 3 hours of this. 

Quinny 

Yeah, I’m there for, I mean. 

Speaker 3 

Actually really. 

Ardella 

Joined a 90 minute movie though. 

Speaker 4 

We have so many long. 

Speaker 3 

Yeah, yeah. 

Ardella 

*** films coming out these days and the pacing in this felt great. I would much rather be left wanting more than be left sitting on my couch, scrolling Instagram halfway through because I’m like, this is a this is a. 

Speaker 

I wanted. 

Jill 

Sure. 

Ardella 

Dull bed. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, this is the song that I’m not into. And that’s the reprise of the song. I’m not. Into. 

Speaker 13 

It’s the old man song again. 

Speaker 

Ohh. 

Quinny 

It’s something I did like though is is while I was watching it. I you know the first number I was like ohh yeah, this is pretty cool. And then within the 1st 13 minutes, there were three, you know, musical numbers, completely different songs. Like I was watching, and I was like, oh ****, this is a secret musical. It’s not that secret, but it’s a proper musical and that, I mean, for me, for my, my taste, that was ******* great sick. Amazing and like to your point, Dion, I immediately then go totally see. This is a stage. And to your point, Beck. Ohh one of you. I’m not sure who was. Yes, I could see it working as a series because there’s a lot more to explore, and while Dion, I know that you’re like the capitalist pigs, they’re just trying to make money out of the kids sometimes. That’s OK. Because this is a ******* cool story. 

Speaker 4 

Yeah, I I mean. 

Ardella 

If you do like everyone wants our money, it is a we live in a society. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Jill 

Here at the in the high points of the capitalism, my friend. 

Ardella 

Yeah, but I think that there is a a way that feel feels friendly and genuine to do that and this is hitting that nail for me. And there’s a way that feels inauthentic and. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Ardella 

Cash grabby and that’s not this at the moment. We’ll see how many spin offs they try and squeeze out of this and when it tips that line. 

Speaker 

Sure. 

Ardella 

But I think at the moment it still feels. 

Dion 

And in 15 years, when Netflix rolls back around and makes a live action version of the K pop Demon Hunters franchise, we will know hey. Yeah, now. 

Ardella 

Warm and flat. 

Quinny 

Ohh, so he said. They’re not doing it. 

Dion 

If you’re talking about. 

Quinny 

They they they got, they got absolutely ******* pilloried on the Internet when the initial run of things that they announced was live action. Make stage show and ongoing series. Everyone said do not ******* do this live action they. 

Dion 

Quinny. Went OK. Producers don’t care. It’s just that now there’s a lot of complaints. They’ll wait till they’re less complaints and then they’ll do it anyway for a tax break. That’s how the system works, quinny. 

Speaker 4 

That. 

Quinny 

So you’ve got another K pop. 

Dion 

People. 

Speaker 6 

Exactly. 

Speaker 3 

For me. 

Speaker 

You know like. 

Dion 

Stuff will happen that way, unfortunately and sometimes, fortunately, anyway, philosophically. 

Ardella 

Well, the sequel has already been greenlit by Netflix, which is unsurprising given that this is apparently in the couple of months that it’s been out a month and 1/2 that it’s been out. It has already topped all other animated movies on Netflix for the most watched. 

Dion 

Yeah. And we’re a good time behind as we have already. Explain like in in terms of the pickup of this is that came out in June, you know and it