TPToA Podcast 414 – Superman

Dion 

Ohh hello and welcome to the periodic table levels. I mean it’s feel good Wednesday night that we’re doing this very special time of Wednesday night. My name is Deon and I’m joined by Peter, Jill and Quinny. And tonight we’re going to be doing. Superman, thanks. Thanks for joining in, but yeah. 

Speaker 

Yay. 

Quinny 

OK, great. So look up in this look. 

Speaker 5 

Moving up a thing. 

Peta 

If if you want us In Sync like you have to discuss it with. This. Beforehand. No, no, no, no, no, no. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Just give us a pause and then look at. Us meaningfully. Yeah, well. 

Peta 

Yes, otherwise our incredible lack of planning is even more obvious. 

Speaker 5 

All gangs here. Yes. Thank you, Casper. In the chat? Yeah. Whole gangs here and people in. The chat are there, yeah. 

Speaker 

Day. 

Speaker 5 

We’re all back. We’re doing this now. You know, finally, the summer blockbuster we’ve all been waiting for. Superman. 

Quinny 

I’m. I’m excited. I’m super excited. 

Dion 

Look. You are super excited. No, no, Superman. So parse we’re on to Fantastic Four now, that’s the next new hotness. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah. Well, I mean, I don’t have, I don’t have my glasses to give. You Deon, but yeah. 

jill 

Yeah. We had our own personal Pedro Pascal last night. We didn’t need no premiere. 

Dion 

That’s. 

Speaker 9 

No. Yes. When the girl. The girl that Porto was so excited. 

Quinny 

Did we? Did we premiere? It was just a. It’s the best thing ever. 

Dion 

For like 30 seconds and then she was back to serving hot fresh chicken as fast. 

Quinny 

The the look on this young lady’s face, though, and she was like, OK, you want an Oporto burger? What? 

Speaker 9 

Yeah. Are you here for this? 

Speaker 10 

Sure. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah. Look, you know, no, it’s not. It’s not me. Pablo Pascal Pablo Pascal, the team Umm Pedro. 

jill 

The team U version? Yeah. 

Quinny 

You’re you’re like Orlando blooms. All the color bloom. 

Dion 

The fat cousin? Yeah, in Pensacola. We all know these things. It’s fine. We’re not there to talk about this. We’re. 

Quinny 

I’m. 

Speaker 5 

Happy to talk about. 

Dion 

Superman, aren’t we focus. Focus back on this. We’re here to talk about Superman. Lex Luthor, Lois Lane and no one else. 

Quinny 

Right. OK, right. 

Speaker 11 

Quinny 

Talking about the rest of the. Characters. 

Dion 

No, no, no, just those three. That’s it. OK, that’s what we agreed to right in the pre production meeting. Yeah, that you all attended. I sent you that invitation. 

Speaker 

Right. 

Quinny 

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 

Dion 

No, it’s. 

Peta 

A joke all of the notes we make, all the proof we do like, yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah, yeah, you’re right. 

Speaker 3 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Yeah. Yeah, it’s it’s 15 hours of. Yeah, it’s, it’s it’s 15 hours of prep work for each hour long show. 

jill 

The slide deck we built. 

Speaker 

So. 

Dion 

Shows doesn’t. 

Speaker 

It. 

Quinny 

Sometimes it does feel a bit. 

jill 

Don’t. You’re reminding me why I stopped doing Animaniacs. 

Speaker 5 

Ohh. 

Quinny 

I mean, you know, you’re not wrong. 

Speaker 12 

Yeah. 

Dion 

Can we focus on this? Come on, buddy. OK, guys, up here. Let’s go podcast. Alright. 

Peta 

Right. 

Quinny 

I’m I’m doing really important stuff. 

Dion 

We’re. Sick man. Yeah. All right. Last week we had the distinct pleasure of going to see Superman. We did. Water brothers. And. It was a big thing. 

Speaker 

Wasn’t it? 

Quinny 

That’s a big thing. How do we all feel? 

Dion 

Who’s the biggest super fan? 

Quinny 

Ohh, there’s a good question. 

Dion 

There here. 

Quinny 

Yeah. I’m. I’m. I’m big fan of Superman. Love the original 78 film. Probably was, I don’t know for for me, he’s always just been there because of things like super friends, you know? But. I don’t know. I don’t know whether I’d call myself a massive Superman fan, I don’t know. 

jill 

Yeah, I gotta say, not my favorite superhero. I’m a I’m a Batman girl. 

Quinny 

I I know this about you. 

Dion 

Right. 

Speaker 9 

Yeah. But Superman is there. 

Dion 

She likes some dark, dark, gritty and rich. 

Speaker 12 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Not traumatised. 

Dion 

Not, not corn fed worthy and alien. 

jill 

Look, I do have a new boyfriend and his name is David Cornstein. 

Dion 

I also have. 

jill 

We haven’t met yet, but. 

Speaker 12 

Reviewed. 

Dion 

I also have a new boyfriend and that is the Star Wars fan David coins, so you know. Yes. 

Quinny 

Mm-hmm. 

Speaker 

Quinny 

Yeah, David, David, corn sweat. Who said what? What would you like to build? And he said, give me a *******. Lego kit. Yeah, like he, he’s like I want a Superman Lego kit now, like. 

Dion 

Did you see? Did you see him on the lie detector test where they asked the question of which one would you prefer to do the sequel? The the sequels for Superman or to change and go to become the like into the Star Wars universe and? 

jill 

Go to Star Wars, yeah. 

Dion 

He was like. 

jill 

He’s like, well, they already have me on a contract for another Superman. So I’ll say yes to the Star Wars. Yeah, I’ll take both. 

Speaker 3 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Good answer. 

Dion 

Peter. Peter, as a lifelong super fan. 

Quinny 

Mm-hmm. 

Dion 

Do you? Do you? Would you consider yourself the Superman, Stan? 

Peta 

I mean, Stan would be taking it a bit far. I I’m I’m not. I I don’t dislike Superman. I think. I mean, my first experience with Superman was the old opening title sequence from the old TV show. You know, and then well, is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it’s Superman. Which was the only thing we knew about Superman for a little while. So when we played Superman and Wonder Woman. 

Quinny 

Hang on, which which old TV show? All right. 

Peta 

Superman could be a bird or a plane, or faster earth speeding bullet, and that was it. That’s all we had. We did not grow up with comics. We grew up with sound bites. And then Lewis and Clark, and he ain’t he ain’t no one Superman anymore, so I’m happy. I’m happy for a new Superman. I mean, I I, I you know. Yeah, I I was excited for Henry at the time but. 

Quinny 

Yes. No, what a ********. 

Speaker 

Peta 

Wasn’t a fan of the dark? 

Speaker 3 

MHM. 

Peta 

The dark reboot. Didn’t some somebody who knows nothing really about the character just didn’t feel right to try to dark reboot? Superman didn’t didn’t really work for me, so I’ve I’ve I jumped off the Super train and. 

Speaker 9 

Hmm. 

Quinny 

So so you’re trying to tell me that you you weren’t big on Man of Steel, didn’t get into Batman versus Superman and then didn’t love Justice League? Is that what I’m hearing? 

Peta 

I didn’t watch Justice League. I didn’t watch Batman versus Superman because when it comes to DC movies, I wait for you guys to watch them and then you tell me if I should watch them. And that’s usually how it goes. Yeah. Wait, who was who was the one that was before Henry and like? 2000 and. 

Speaker 11 

Brandon, Ralph. Yes, Brandon. Ralph. Yeah. 

Speaker 

Peta 

Yeah, yeah, I like chicks. 

jill 

I will die on that hill. Yeah, I loved that. 

Peta 

Movie. I like that movie. I saw it. I saw it like in an IMAX theatre in Minnesota or something. 

Dion 

Yeah. And it was also shot in Sydney. 

jill 

Yes, it was. And my my 6° of separation I don’t know how many degrees this makes it, but my father changed the traffic lights in the Sydney CBD to American traffic lights so they could film the scenes in the street. 

Quinny 

Nice. Yeah, right. 

Dion 

That’s definitely about 6:00 because he didn’t actually interact with anyone. 

Speaker 11 

He worked. He worked on the film. He did. 

Quinny 

Sure. We we did work on the. 

Dion 

Film it’s true, it’s true. So you gotta you’ve gotta count. Like, who was that then? Who was the person he spoke to that was closest to speaking to Brandon ramp? 

Speaker 9 

Work on the film. Yeah, I’ll let’s just say 3, that’s great. 

Quinny 

Great. Look, my degrees of separation with Brandon Ralph is one. I’ve met him. Yeah, he’s a very nice man. I really. 

Dion 

Queen, we’ve talked that. 

Quinny 

Liked that? He. 

Speaker 11 

I bet he’s. 

Dion 

That’s technically considered. 

Quinny 

He’s super ******* tall. 

Dion 

Yeah. OK. And he has vegan power. 

Quinny 

He does have amazing like. 

Dion 

Because he he’s part of the vegan police. No, wait. He got his head, then stripped. 

Quinny 

Yes, yes. Because he had cheese at some point, got some Scott Pilgrim. 

Dion 

That’s right. This is all Scott Pilgrim work. OK, fine. But he’s also got another DC superhero, hasn’t he? In the TV. 

jill 

Yeah, he’s been the. 

Dion 

Adam. Yeah. Anyway, more away from Superman. Don’t forget that that the the Superman movie. 

Speaker 11 

But he did replay. 

jill 

Superman in the Elseworlds stuff in. 

Quinny 

Yes. Yeah, he was the the Kingdom come version of Superman, which I ******* loved. 

Speaker 

Yes. 

Dion 

So the last time we saw Superman on screen was in the post credit sequence of Black Adam. You forgot about that one, didn’t you? 

Speaker 11 

Yes, we did. Nope, unfortunately. 

Dion 

Which was Henry Cavill’s reintroduction into the DC Universe, only to be told very politely. I hope by James Gunn. Nope. Go on. Go on a different direction. So yeah, man. 

Speaker 

Ohh yeah. Ouch. 

Dion 

Yeah, but first up though. Like, I mean before we. 

Peta 

He’s doing all right. He’ll be fine, OK? 

Dion 

Get too. Before we get too into it, do we have a a synopsis about this new Superman and do you have any requests of the type of accent that what should accent should Quinney be doing it in? 

jill 

I’ll do it on the timing news guy. 

Peta 

I was going to say manic tech bro, but yeah, no. We’ve we’ve had many tech bro recently so. 

Quinny 

Yeah, right. OK. OK, we, we got we got a musical thing on this one.

Dion 

No worries. Oh yeah, why not? There you go. 

Speaker 13 

Quinny 

I can’t hear it, but I really want. To do when it. When it hits the its stride. 

Speaker 13 

When Superman gets drawn into conflict at home and abroad, his actions are questioned, giving tech billionaire Lex Luther the opportunity to get the Man of Steel out of the way for good will. Intrepid reporter Lois Lane and Superman’s 4 legged companion crypto be able to help him before it’s too late. Find out in Superman 2025. 

Dion 

I don’t give a **** the original music’s. Still banging? Yeah. 

Peta 

I mean that that that’s that. That’s the most fun **** accent we’ve had in a long time. It was barely even. 

Quinny 

Good. 

Peta 

Ship quinny. I don’t know. 

Dion 

Yeah. There we go. People are saying that’s that’s that’s one of your best. 

Quinny 

That was actually. Vaguely close to what I was aiming for. ******* terrifying. 

Speaker 5 

Yeah. All right, so. 

Quinny 

Yes. So here we are, James Gunn. After being ceremony unceremoniously booted from the Marvel Universe and then welcomed back to it so we can do. The end of his trilogy, but during that that brief period of booting was essentially said. Ohh well, if they don’t want you we we’ll give you like. All this other ****. And he then went and made Suicide Squad. And then. Was essentially given the keys to the Kingdom and said you can make your DC. 

jill 

I’ll tell you what you can fit so many James Gunn elements in this bad boy you’ve got. Kaiju size aliens. You’ve got a quirky, lovable animal. You’ve got deep cut comic book characters. You’ve got obscure version of a mainstream character and. 

Speaker 3 

Mm-hmm. 

jill 

The pistol resistance. The one shot fight sequence. 

Quinny 

Yes, yes, swoopy camera that does all of the the swooping Ness. Yeah, and lots of fisheye lens stuff. 

jill 

Not much. Snoopy ******* camera in this film. Yeah, besides the fight scene, a lot of swoopy camera. 

Quinny 

Yeah. So, yes, what do we do? We like James Gunn as a director. I look, I OK I do. I like James Gunn. I’m gonna say that. But feel free to tell me what you all think. 

jill 

I mean, I found all of the guardians of the Galaxy films very enjoyable. I do like his, you know, I guess you would call it his vision that he. Makes in his films, you know, he’s. Got a very. Clear aesthetic and it’s like a comedy slant on. Serious issues I guess, but also very heartfelt. Yeah, he tends to put a. Lot of himself in his movies and actually crypto is based on his dog. 

Quinny 

Yeah, who is very bad dog. Yeah, but I love him nonetheless. 

jill 

So yeah, I I like James Gunn films. 

Speaker 2 

Hmm. 

Quinny 

Pete, where are you at with our J? 

Peta 

No, I mean I I don’t have super strong feelings, but I don’t think I’ve ever been. Mad at them. 

jill 

Not even for the tweets that he’s trying to redeem himself from. 

Peta 

I would have to be reminded a a bit, but. 

Dion 

Or you can find them, but it’s someone who is like 20. 

Peta 

I was gonna say it’s like, well in the past. And he’s been like ohh, that was bad, right? Yes, he hasn’t. He hasn’t been like, sorry if you’re offended. No. No. OK, well, then that’s like, people make mistakes when they’re young. 

Speaker 

Yes. 

jill 

He’s probably 1. Of the rare people that came away from an attempted cancelling but yeah. 

Speaker 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

Yeah, I would agree with that. Like I think he. Was able to do the the thing of going own it say yeah, that was me. That was back then. I don’t agree with this **** now. I I let my record of the last how many films I’ve made be my kind of my statement as to what kind of a person. I am now. Which I kind of agree with. I think he I think what he’s trying to say most of the time is generally the right thing Ding. 

Peta 

Ohh, he was he was saying stuff quite loudly this time. But Oh yeah. 

Quinny 

My God. 

Dion 

I’ve been a fan of James Gunn’s work since PG ****. Which you might. Yeah, I know. Right. People like wait. What? Yeah, he did a thing called PG **** for Spike TV. She was always great because always cut away before any of the real **** happened. It was quite great. And Nathan fillion’s. In. It if you ever wanted that. So you go look that up. Look, he’s kind of hit and miss, but you know. I like that he came from a very do-it-yourself roots sort of thing, working with chroma when he when he hits his stride really well is is in great filming. Like, you know, some of his films are are actually quite fun and exciting. And he he brings the. UMI think? Sense of joy and a bit of wonder and a bit of stupidity to kind of every single film that he’s in that he does. So yeah, I mean when this was announced that he was gonna be doing Superman or, you know, heading DC into a new direction, I was like, huh, OK can be a bit, Sammy, with your your stuff because you’ve got your formula, which works. And you you’ve been hammering out the same way for a few times, but alright, let’s let’s go see what you’re gonna do with this one. I’ll give it a go. You seem to make. Paining things which is. Exciting. And also he’s happy to. You know, as with peacemaker and suicide, the Suicide Squad. Sorry. He’s happy to to. You’d be a bit creative with what’s going on by not talking about specific characters, but by building a story around misfits and things you wouldn’t really think of. He likes the latitude, I think, rather have to go down the thing like. I mean, I wouldn’t really want to watch James Gunn’s bat. 

Speaker 9 

Ohh God no, no. 

Dion 

Was it? Yeah, it’d be a bit. It’d be a bit strange, but James Gunn’s Lobo could work. Yeah. 

Quinny 

No. I and I think this I think a lot of people were fairly concerned or at least trepidatious about James Gunn, Superman, because what we’ve seen him do before now has always been about. Outsiders, misfits. You know, like peacemaker, people who are not necessarily good people. You know, the the guardians of the Galaxy are all not necessarily good people. So how does how is it going to play? When he is. You know very much, looking at a paragon, you know, how do we deal with somebody who is just straight up good? 

Speaker 

MHM. 

Quinny 

You know, is he gonna be able to handle that and personally? I thought he did. 

jill 

Yeah. Well, I think what aided him was having a a periphery of weirdos. Yeah, yeah. 

Quinny 

Goofy ********. 

Dion 

Gotta admit, I was one of the people who was like. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Speaker 5 

Who is they? 

jill 

Yes, we all exclaimed after the movie when Dion said, who was that? Who was that? Who was that? And yeah, we said pick up. 

Quinny 

Yeah. 

jill 

A DC comic. 

Peta 

Book. See I’m. I’m. I’m just used to that experience so it. 

Speaker 

Yes. Yeah. 

Peta 

Doesn’t bother me. I don’t know who any of these people are. I know Luther. I know, Lois. I know Superman. Yeah, Jimmy. 

Quinny 

Thank you. Jimmy Olsen. 

Peta 

That’s. 

Speaker 

It. 

Quinny 

So. So Dion, you’ve never run across Mr. Terrific before? Nope, never run across the garden before. 

Dion 

Now what now? 

Quinny 

Who was the chick with Wings Hawk girl? 

Dion 

Ohh and then there was the other one that did. 

jill 

Come on. 

Quinny 

Metamorpho. 

Dion 

No. 

Quinny 

Right, I guess. Here’s here’s the thing. This is an unashamedly comic book loving movie. Yeah. And the characters that they are choosing to. 

Dion 

But. Knew the dog. 

Quinny 

Difference are not just the big triumvirate, not the what do they call them? The big three? Yeah, they’re, they’re they’re. They’re not the big three. They’re not the Justice League. This is the other guys. It’s green. Not just a Green Lantern. It’s the Green Lantern. That everybody. 

Dion 

Justice gang. 

jill 

Hates the ******* worst. 

Quinny 

The ******** Green Lantern with the. 

Dion 

Worst hair? No, that was that was the Ryan Reynolds one. 

Peta 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

It can get worse. You know it’s it’s Mr. Terrific who is, you know, the lot. People have seen him in recent years. He did show up in Arrow as a as a recurring character, but probably not in a way that people would go. Oh, there’s there’s somebody who needs to be on a big screen. 

Dion 

I had the same reaction when I saw polka dot man. I was like, OK, fine. But then I was watching this going I I don’t know why. Why does Superman even talk to these people? Aren’t they beneath him? 

jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

No, please. 

Peta 

Welcome to my side of the fence there. 

Dion 

It was weird over there. 

Quinny 

One thing I will say I do think the film look, I’m I’m putting my my word out there right now. I enjoyed it a lot. I thought it was a lot of fun and really, really enjoyable and hit a lot of emotional notes. But the phrase that I have used to describe it to a few people is silly. Like it is willfully silly. And occasionally goofy. And when it does, big action sequences and stuff it it really leans into this, the kind of silliness of. Ridiculous superpowers. You know you can have 100 flying jetpack goons attach themselves to Superman, and he will just spin like a a top and then they all go flying and it’s it’s cartoon world. Whereas. The the other thing is it’s silly, but at the same time it’s very grounded in its emotions. 

jill 

Yes, yes, I would agree with you. 

Speaker 10 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

And I remember watching it and thinking, oh, that one’s going to be that’s going to be divisive. 

Dion 

Like the whole thing. 

Quinny 

And. Yeah, the the whole film, because honestly, I think. If you. 

jill 

But isn’t it? Isn’t it just dividing like people with empathy and ********? 

Quinny 

But that’s not what I thought was gonna happen. I thought it was going to divide people into people who wanted us a a more serious take on a superhero. Ohh. OK and people. 

Speaker 

Oh. 

Quinny 

Who were just like, yeah, comic book superhero, bright colors, Superman robots, you know, crypto. 

jill 

Yeah, that’s what kind of makes it hard for me to recommend to people because my parents love to watch movies. They like the superhero stuff, and so my mum was like, how was Superman? I said. 

Speaker 9 

Ohh it was, it was fun. 

jill 

But at the same time, I’m thinking you’re not going to get half of the references in this film. Like it’s definitely not built for a layman.

Peta 

You don’t. You don’t need to get the references for it to be fun, though. I think if if you had to get the references. 

jill 

I feel like 75% of it is references. 

Peta 

For it to be fun. 

Quinny 

I mean. Are you? Maybe you need. 

Peta 

To get into the spirit of it, like I’d never heard it, I didn’t know Superman. Had the dog, but. 

Speaker 11 

Yeah. 

Speaker 13 

The Super Dog never had a crypto and never heard. 

Peta 

Of crypto, but I would say that that that was like the the film signalled what it was very big, very quickly from the beginning in terms of tone and kind of used crypto to do that. And and given I didn’t even watch the trailer for this, I was like, just like we’re going. To see the. New Superman Film Zero other information except for that one still that got released ages ago. I did not know what we were going internally. So so it took that for me to be like, ah, OK, this is where we are. This is what we’re expecting. That’s cool. But like, it didn’t bother me that I’ve never heard of crypto before. Didn’t bother me that I never heard of that particular version of the Green Lantern before, although the head did confuse, confuse me a lot. 

Quinny 

The volcano. 

Peta 

Well, maybe because I’m often watching these things with people who do more comics than me. I’m just very used to not getting most of the references and being like along. For the ride. 

Quinny 

Fair Tari in the chat, saying that the trailer makes it look serious. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. 

Peta 

I mean, there’s definitely got serious elements and serious themes. It’s it’s got a serious take, but it it it has a lens of comedy that makes it. It’s very clear from the beginning and that’s what it is. I did find it totally tricky, to be honest. Like I enjoyed the silliness. I enjoyed the comedy, but. I couldn’t quite get my stride in for like. Good first half of the movie. Just totally I I I couldn’t. I couldn’t quite get my hooks into. Into. Where it was and I don’t know if it’s because it didn’t feel. Like if it was like the first episode of A. New TV series. It would have been perfect. There was just something tonally about it that didn’t that didn’t, or maybe it was structurally, that didn’t feel like cinema esque to me. 

jill 

There was a moment. In the first half of the film, where I did like, make a comment to myself where I was like, this doesn’t really feel like it has a lot of substance. Like it kind of struggles with the message that it wants to convey and. Being comedic like, I don’t know that any of the serious moments really. I don’t know, it held. You long enough to connect. If that makes sense. 

Quinny 

In in the first half or in. The whole film in. 

jill 

The whole film I I I there. 

Quinny 

Were a few moments where I I was really tuned into the series and the emotional like there are a couple of bits with his parents that I was just like, oh Jesus Christ, that that got me right in the in the fields. I. 

jill 

Don’t know, just some of the some of it just felt rushed. I’m like, it feels like. It’s trying to rush through. These serious beats, or these emotional moments to to get to the next comedy bit, I don’t know. 

Quinny 

It definitely felt like it was. It was rushing through stuff, agreed. Like there are, there are points where it sort of introduces a concept and then. 

Speaker 

Hmm. 

Quinny 

You kind of rushed through to the bit where it’s suddenly the next big. Crisis or whatever. 

jill 

Yeah. 

Quinny 

And yeah, it’s. It’s it. It feels like it’s at breakneck pace, kind of a lot of the way through. 

jill 

Yeah, I was tempted to actually try and catch it again before we chatted. I just to get another go at it. 

Quinny 

You’ve been very blocky. 

Speaker 2 

Hmm. 

Dion 

Look. I mean, I’m down for stuff. And I’m down for all of this thing. But I mean, my one take away that I had for it is ohh, it’s Superman movie. It’s not for me. Like I watched it and I was like, I was there for this. I saw all this just like, I mean, I thought there were. There were bits that that they did, which I really got and I really believed. I thought they, like, knocked it out of the park. I was like, I’m 100% here for certain things, like, certain interpersonal relationships, certain kind of scenes and ideas. I was like, that is. Like, that’s beautiful. You’ve really nailed it and it shows what you’re trying to do. And then there were other stuff there that I was like, why is this? Part. Of this, this doesn’t need to be part of this. I’m slightly confused about where this is all sitting in relation to. It seems like there was a Justice League, but there has been something that happens that has, I know, but this is I’m talking about how I interpreted stuff I was like. I feel like, oh, there was a Justice League for a while there, but now there’s not really a Justice League. But now there’s something else going on, like it was like, oh, we’re we’re going and there’s a world and it’s happening. And some things you won’t know because you haven’t. We haven’t explained, but we’re not going to. You’re just gonna move forward with this. And I was like, OK, that’s all right. I can sort of get on board with it. But it felt like I was being missing critical pieces of information. And then also like, oh, I don’t understand why these other characters are there. This seems like it’s all very haphazard. Some characters are completely underutilised. 

Quinny 

Examples. 

Dion 

Like a hot girl, I thought she was. She was pointless if you took her out. I don’t think anything would be missing. There’s no. And that’s a shame because you know, like you want every character. Yeah. Yeah. You want all that stuff to be there? 

Quinny 

Great actors, but also cool characters. 

Dion 

Yeah, and and. But to did it look cool in this? Nope. I can say distinctly that I looked at every time she was on screen. Like, ohh. It’s kind of dull. This is a bit better in Black, Adam. I know, right? OK. That was called man. Was it? 

Speaker 9 

That was. 

Dion 

One girl. Well, one of them was in. Wasn’t there a hawk girl in one or something? 

Quinny 

There was a hawk girl in legends of. 

jill 

Mine. 

Quinny 

Tomorrow. Sure. Yeah. 

Dion 

You don’t. I don’t do a lot of DC. Sorry. I wasn’t really a DC person, but I get. Some of the. 

Quinny 

Ideas. I realize now that I actually am more of a DPDC person than I.