The Palestine Pod

This week Lara and Michael sit down with one of the world's most renowned Palestinian authors Susan Abulhawa. We discuss her trips to Gaza the writing workshops she organized and the subsequent compilation of stories from people in Gaza that became Every Moment Is a Life: Gaza in the Time of Genocide. We talk about the time spent in Gaza, the horrors she witnessed, and the community she built. Susan tells us about her children's book Palestine On the Moon which is available to purchase (within the US) from her website.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Dr. Mimi Syed a brave medical professional who went on two medical missions to Gaza before being banned by Israel on her third attempt. During her time in Gaza she documented numerous occasions where babies were murdered by the Israeli occupation forces with single bullets to the head and chest. We talk about the horrors she saw that Palestinians live every day during her time as an eyewitness to the ongoing genocide against the Palestinian people.

This week Lara and Michael reconnect with artistic intellectual Amanda Seales to talk about the release of her book What Would the Ancestors Say. We dive into the attempts to cancel Amanda from performing standup, how recommitting to the written word is revolutionary in a time when everything is controlled by crypto-fascist oligarchs, and Amanda calls Lara jolly.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Omar Zahzah the author of the recent book on big tech censorship called, Terms of Servitude Zionism, Silicon Valley, and Digital Settler Colonialism in the Palestinian Liberation Struggle. Omar has written for the Electronic Intifada, Mondoweiss, and other publications. He covered the story of Michael's Instagram being deleted by Jordana Cutler, and is a strong advocate for Palestinian liberation.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Jenin, the Palestine representative of CODEPINK to discuss Francesca Albanese's report "From economy of occupation to economy of genocide." We talk about how Airbnb and other corporations profit from the forced displacement of Palestinians. The company has over 300 listings in illegal settlements in the West Bank and we chat about the upcoming litigation against the company, as well as the campaigns spearheaded by CODEPINK to encourage people to boycott Airbnb.

This week, Lara and Michael sit down with Abdulrahim Harara, owner of Jerusalem Coffee House in Oakland, California. They explore Abdulrahim’s family history in Palestine and his vision for the café as a space for community organizing and connection. The conversation reflects on the importance of building community in the face of state violence designed to isolate and fragment. The episode concludes with Abdulrahim’s account of the incident that led to Jerusalem Coffee House becoming a target of the latest wave of lawfare, involving the DOJ, the ADL, and other Zionist organizations.

This week, Lara and Michael speak with Palestinian-American comedian Sammy Obeid. They discuss the ups and downs of working in comedy as a Palestinian in this current moment and critique how complicit media narratives distort reporting on those killed by Israel as part of the ongoing genocide, for example by making it seem like such individuals died of "natural causes" as opposed to as a result of targeted state violence. Sammy also shares an anecdote involving a stay at Michael’s apartment.

This week Lara and Michael cover Israel's forced starvation of the Palestinian people in Gaza, which has reached Stage 5 for many people in the besieged territory, the US sanctions levied against United Nations Special Rapporteur on the oPt, Francesca Albanese, and the odd resignation of all members of the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the oPt in the days that followed.

This week Lara and Michael discuss the uprisings in LA and the solidarity seen at the protests. They also cover updates around the groundbreaking lawsuit brought by Palestine Pod alum Damia Taharraoui which seeks to hold Israeli/French citizens accountable for complicity in genocide and incitement to genocide before French courts.

Lara and Michael sit down separately this week. Lara reads from her submission on the political economy of the Gaza Genocide prepared as part of her work for the Gaza People's Tribunal's Sarajevo session and Michael talks about being digitally disappeared from Instagram by one of Meta's main executives who used to work for the Israeli government as part of an application-wide sweep of several accounts advocating for Palestinian rights.

This week Lara and Michael cover the Israeli continued forced starvation campaign against the Palestinian people for the last two months which serves as an escalation of its ongoing genocidal campaign.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Professor Maura Finkelstein, a formerly tenured professor who was one of the first people targeted in academics after the Al Aqsa Flood. Maura is one of the many Jewish antizionist voices that rejects normalization. We discuss academic repression, the disappearance of students for political affiliations, and the horrors we see coming out of the genocide in Palestine every single day.

This week Lara and Michael discuss the unilateral breakdown of the ceasefire by the zionist entity. We cover the Israeli massacres on the Palestinian people during Eid, and how it's all connected to the state-sponsored disappearances of students protesting the genocide in Turtle Island.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with the acclaimed Palestinian researcher, Dr. Salman Abu Sitta, a Nakba survivor who has dedicated his life to the Palestinian liberation struggle. Dr. Salman Abu Sitta is the founder and President of the Palestine Land Society in London, dedicated to the documentation of Palestine’s land and people. He is the author of over 400 articles and papers on Palestine, as well as several books. Notable among them is a series of atlases documenting Palestine at different time periods including Atlas of Palestine 1948, Atlas of Palestine 1917-1966, Atlas of Palestine 1871-1877, The Return Journey Atlas, and the Atlas of Palestine; Land Theft by the Jewish National Fund. He is most known for mapping Palestine and developing a practical plan for implementing the right of return for Palestinian refugees. More details about Dr. Abu Sitta's work can be found at www.plands.org.

This week, we discuss the bizarre declaration by Milekowsky (aka Netanyahu) that he is proudly committing war crimes by imposing a total siege on the Gaza Strip cutting of all food, medication, fuel, and other aid from entering the besieged territory. We also refer to a number of the Israeli violations of Phase 1 of the ceasefire and cover the onslaught of colonial violence in the West Bank dubbed Operation Iron Wall as well as other stories from the last few weeks.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Lena El-Malak a Palestinian-British author and lawyer to discuss her new book, Stolen Nation.

This week, Lara and Michael do a deep dive into the kidnapping and torture of Dr. Husam Abu Safiya, Director of Kamal Edwan Hospital, and a Pediatrician by Israeli occupation forces starting in late December 2024, following months of steadfastness and advocacy aimed at stopping Israeli attacks on the hospital and ending Israel's siege on the Northern part of Gaza. Lara critiques mainstream media's reporting of his abduction and Michael reminds that mainstream media has been used as a tool to whitewash the crimes of the Global North, by providing historical and contemporary examples. Lara and Michael call for the urgent release of Dr. Abu Safiya, all healthcare workers, and the thousands of Palestinian political prisoners held unjustly by Israel.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Mansoor Adayfi, a Yemeni citizen who was wrongfully kidnapped at the age of 18, sold to the CIA, and spent 15 years in Guantanamo before being released without charge or trial. After surviving the torture and terrorism of the United States government, Mansoor is now working tirelessly for accountability in accordance with international law, including an apology, reparations, and the closure of the torture facility where 15 detainees remain, their fates unknown. Released in parallel with the 23rd anniversary of the opening of Guantanamo Bay, this episode hopes to contribute to the urgent campaign to close this abomination of the US so-called "War on Terror." For more on Mansoor's experiences, check out his book "Don't Forget US Here".

This week Lara and Michael cover the new lawsuit brought by Palestinian-Americans and DAWN against the U.S. State Department under the Administrative Procedure Act seeking to oblige the U.S. government to comply with the Leahy law and cease military assistance to Israel which is involved in grave violations of human rights through the conduct of its occupation forces in Gaza and the West Bank. Michael comments on Israel’s occupation of hundreds of square kilometers of Syrian land in the aftermath of the vacuum created by the fall of Bashar Al-Assad and Lara characterizes this as an act of aggression under international law which has hardly been described as such by mainstream corporate media. Lara refers to the latest reports from international organizations characterizing Israel’s conduct as genocide including Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. Lara mentions an Israeli massacre of seven children from the same family in the Northern Part of Gaza and the frustration that accompanies the lack of policy change in the face of the most horrific admissions by Israeli soldiers of their crimes reported by the leading Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Mike Africa Jr., author and Legacy Director of MOVE, a Philadelphia-based activist collective and liberation movement. Mike recalls the history of the MOVE and the 1985 Move bombing, during which Philadelphia police fired thousands of rounds at MOVE members in their homes killing six adults and five children. Mike Africa Jr. addresses police impunity and efforts to seek justice for the MOVE bombing, which are ongoing until today. Mike Africa Jr. expresses solidarity with Palestinians undergoing genocide and describes his awakening to the Palestinian struggle for freedom. Lara asks Mike Africa Jr. what justice would look like for him. Mike Africa Jr. responds that it begins with getting back his family's house which was taken by the US government through the legal process known as eminent domain.

This week, Lara and Michael sit down with Damia Taharraoui, a lawyer at the Paris bar, who recently filed a criminal complaint for complicity with genocide and incitement to genocide in Paris against an NGO whose members blocked the entrance of humanitarian aid into Gaza and posted about it on social media, calling on others to join them in their efforts. Damia explains the importance of holding perpetrators of atrocity crimes accountable, how open source investigation was facilitated in this case because of the individuals’ brazenness, the difference between extraterritorial and universal jurisdiction, and the political context and public discourse in France when it comes to struggling for Palestinian rights. Lara contextualizes this case as part of a pattern of emboldened perpetrators of the Gaza Genocide gleefully posting their crimes on social media noting that the Hind Rajab Foundation recently filed a submission before the ICC with evidence connecting 1000 Israeli soldiers to crimes in Gaza.

This week, Lara and Michael sit down with acclaimed Lebanese-American journalist, Rania Khalek. Reporting from Beirut, Rania comments on Israel’s use of a 2000-pound bunker-buster bomb on a residential building filled with families in Central Beirut on the evening of November 22, 2024. Noting that killing sleeping families was a policy first rolled out in the Gaza Genocide through the use of the Israeli AI “Where’s Daddy”, Lara asks Rania to elaborate on the similarities and differences between Israel’s assaults on Gaza and Lebanon. Rania comments on the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant. Michael provides an update on the Israeli occupation's military losses in Lebanon. Lara reminds listeners of the essential truth that Palestinians are struggling for their freedom against colonialism, which is the gravest affront to a people’s right to self-determination.

This week Lara and Michael cover the formal announcement by Apartheid Israel of the plan to not allow for the return of Palestinians to the Northern part of Gaza while it continues to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from there towards the center and southern part of Gaza. Michael comments on the recent fiasco in Amsterdam where Israeli hooligans chanted genocidal songs celebrating that there were no schools in Gaza because there were no children left, while committing acts of violence and destruction of property. Predictably, the Global North's politicians and media painted the incident, whereby genocide apologists were confronted by locals for their anti-Palestinian threats as "anti-semitic" and a "pogrom". Michael explains his theory as to why it happened, namely to strike fear into Jewish communities in Europe for the purpose of recruiting more people to settle in Israel and the OPT. Lara references Professor Avi Schlaim's findings that Iraqi Jews left their homelands after Mossad orchestrated terrorist attacks in Baghdad in the 1950s.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Huwaida Arraf, Palestinian activist and lawyer who co-founded the International Solidarity Movement. We discuss her previous efforts to break the Israeli siege on Gaza with various flotillas over the years. One was successful, having successfully docked in Gaza without Israeli permission while in 2010, Israeli commandos attacked one of their ships (the Mavi Marmara) in international waters, killing several humanitarian aid volunteers. Huwaida revealed that attempts to bring another flotilla to Gaza to provide relief during the ongoing US-Israeli genocide are currently being blocked by Türkiye.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with the one and only Amanda Seales. Amanda shares her path to learning about and speaking up for Palestine as an artist, explaining that it takes about seven minutes to figure out what is going on, especially if one is armed with knowledge and understanding of white supremacy and colonialism. She invites listeners to check out her latest project, “What would the ancestors say” which explores Black-Palestinian solidarity amongst other social justice issues through a comedic and artistic intellectual lens. Amanda understandably reminds us of George Bernard Shaw’s saying that “if you’re going to tell people the truth, make them laugh them or else they’ll kill you.” Lara teaches Amanda Arabic. Michael wonders why Amanda still moves her own boxes.

This week Lara and Michael discuss Israel's expansion of its Nakba and ongoing genocide into Lebanon, with a word on the pager terrorist attacks, and the history of Hezbollah and its leader Hassan Nasrallah. Turning back to Gaza, Lara reminds that by now 902 Palestinian families have been wiped off the civil registry and will no longer be a part of a Palestinian future. With over 1000 Palestinians now also the only surviving member of their families (including many children), Michael notes that this is the Batman origin story.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Dr. Mark Perlmutter, a hand surgeon and recent humanitarian volunteer in Gaza during the genocide. He describes seeing a number of children with multiple sniper shots to the heads and hearts, indicating there is no way such wounds are "accidental" as Israel often claims. He speaks of why he was inspired to go to Gaza and why he cannot wait to go back.

This week Lara and Michael discuss Israel's latest scheme to recruit African asylum seekers to the genocide effort and the frozen death toll in Gaza in the mainstream media despite Israel's continue daily livestreamed massacres. Lara covers a recent piece indicating an economic collapse in Israel based on available data since the genocide began.

This week on the Palestine Pod, Lara and Michael cover the ongoing genocide in Palestine with updates from on the ground in Gaza and the West Bank including Israel’s bombing of the Al-Ahly Baptist Hospital (again) on August 31, 2024 and the invasion of multiple cities and refugee camps in the West Bank including Jenin where Israeli occupation forces besieged the city, destroyed 70% of the city’s roads in a manner of days and, at the time of recording of this episode, killed 22 Palestinians. Lara reminds us this is all part of the plan to ethnically cleanse Palestine which has been ongoing since Day 1 over 76 years ago noting that Israeli officials are even calling for the “temporary” displacement of Palestinians from the West Bank, a tactic which has historically never proven to be temporary and has only ever been used as a means by Israel to steal more Palestinian land. Lara and Michael also critique a recent move by NYU to propose that “Zionist” be considered a protected class under the school’s code of conduct, a move which comes on the heels of social media giant Meta announcing that content targeting Zionism or Zionists could be removed under the company’s hate speech policy. Finally, the Palestine Pod recalls the brutal killing of the brilliant Palestinian content creator Medo Halimy and the legal case for the mainstream media’s role in perpetuating the genocide of the Palestinian people.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Jewish anti-Zionist activist and writer Amanda Gelender. Amanda argues that the Jewish community has a fascism problem through its support for Zionism while imploring fellow Jewish folks to do more in support of Palestine and Palestinian freedom and liberation.

This week Lara and Michael discuss the hysteria surrounding Washington's reception of Benjamin Netanyahu, the genocidaire overseeing Israel's current genocidal campaign in Gaza. Lara discusses the spread of preventable skin diseases in Gaza where Israel's siege continues to forbid the entry of even the most basic medical supplies.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Associate Professor of Law at Queens University, Dr. Ardi Imseis. Dr. Imseis is the author of the UN and the Question of Palestine, a study into what historically went wrong in the UN’s treatment of the Question of Palestine since its inception. Dr. Imseis exposes how at various critical moments in the last century, the prevailing international law of the time was flouted by the UN in favor of policy that violated Palestinian rights and democratic principles. The work reminds us how the law can be used as one of many tools, but certainly has its limits. Laws can be oppressive (like the Nuremberg laws, South African Apartheid laws) and the choice to respect them or not is inherently political. We discuss how a lack of accountability for Israel’s violations has only caused the Zionist occupation to become more entrenched over time, what public international law principles require of Israel in terms of reparation for its international wrongs against the Palestinian people, and the handful of current legal efforts brought by Palestinians and their allies to use the law for emancipatory aims including the ICJ case in relation to the illegality of Israel’s presence in the Occupied Palestinians Territory, a case where Dr. Imseis acted as part of the legal team.

This week Lara and Michael discuss two recent reports challenging the stagnant death toll in Gaza: a recent article by Palestinian-American author Susan Abulhawa in the Electronic Intifada, concluding the Israel has most likely killed, in 9 months, 194,768-511,824 people in Gaza. Such findings were corroborated weeks later by an article published in The Lancet, a peer-reviewed medical journal, providing evidence-based data that the real death toll is likely at least 186,000 Palestinians. These earth-shattering findings are contrasted with the phenomenon of genocide denial and erasure in the US political landscape and the urgent need to stop the annihilation of the Palestinian people.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with the former President of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) at University of California Santa Barbara (UCSB), Jwan Haddadd. We talk about the successful organizing effort to pass a resolution divesting from companies that support Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza, and the coalition of organizations, students, and faculty who made it happen. UCSB becomes the sixth university to institutionalize a boycott within the UC system.

This week Lara and Michael cover Israeli massacres in Jabalia and Jenin. Lara covers how the last two functioning hospitals in Gaza are being besieged by the Israeli occupation forces and have been without clean drinking water for days and in international law developments, how the ICC Prosecutor has applied to the pre-trial judges for arrest warrants of Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant in relation to possible war crimes and crimes against humanity.

This week, Lara and Michael play a recorded interview with UCLA students from their student encampment and sit down with Presidential candidate for the Green Party, Dr. Jill Stein. Dr. Stein discusses the role of electoral politics, how it has failed the American people, and how now more than ever, a third party is needed to threaten the two-party duopoly and end the US-Israeli genocide in Palestine.

This week Lara and Michael cover the Pro-Publica report that internal State Department recommendations advise sanctioning and cutting military funding to Israel, a recommendation that Secretary of State, Antony Blinken has been ignoring since December 2023. Lara and Michael also cover the phenomenon of college campus Gaza solidarity encampments including those at Columbia, Harvard, and Yale.

This week Lara and Michael cover the details emerging around the massacre at Al Shifa Hospital, predicting that this massacre will be remembered in the same way as the massacres at Deir Yassin and Tantura. Reports indicate that the Israeli occupation forces separated people by color-coded bracelets before detaining some, torturing others, and killing patients, displaced people, and doctors who refused to abandon their patients.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Palestinian-American ER physician, Dr. Mohammad Subeh. Dr. Subeh came to the US as a Palestinian refugee during the Gulf War after his grandparents were expelled from Palestine during the Nakba. He speaks to the Palestine Pod about his recent experience providing medical care for five weeks in Gaza a field hospital with the International Medical Core in Rafah during Israel's ongoing genocidal assault. In addition to detailing the realities of Israel's attacks against civilians in Gaza as well as Israel's decimation of the Palestinian healthcare system, Dr. Subeh paints a picture of a people committed to "ihsan", the concept of seeking to achieve excellence in all aspects of life while facing annihilation. Lara reminds that the Palestinian people refuse to disappear in the face of the zionist settler colonial project which requires extermination of the indigenous people. Instead, the Palestinian people currently undergoing genocide continue to insist on life with excellence.

This week Lara and Michael cover the ongoing deliberate starvation of the Palestinian people in Gaza by the Zionist regime in violation of international law. The Palestine Pod also covers a recent Al-Jazeera report entitled "Not just the UNRWA report: Countless accounts of Israeli torture in Gaza" compiling accounts of Palestinians from Gaza who have been kidnapped by Israeli occupation forces and subjected to brutal torture in violation of international law as a part of this current genocide. These accounts illuminate the treatment Palestinians in Israeli captivity have been subjected to for over 75 years of settler colonialism, occupation, and apartheid.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Hala Hanina a Palestinian dentist, PhD researcher in sociology, and 4th-generation Palestinian refugee from Gaza, Palestine. She is a former volunteer in hospitals during previous Israeli aggressions. We hear from Hana about how five generations of her family suffered under Zionism (from her great-grandfather experiencing the 1948 Nakba, all the way up until her family home was destroyed in the 2023/24 Nakba and genocide) as well as her reflections on this current moment.

This week Lara and Michael discuss the Zionists’ genocidal assault on Rafah during the evening of the Super Bowl, targeting at least two mosques containing sheltering families and dozens of Palestinian family houses and tents containing displaced families. During this night, Israel killed Sidra Hassouna, 7 years old. The pressure from the impact of the bomb catapulted her body, which hung by a wire when she was found. We cover the reports concerning Egypt’s construction of a so-called “fortified buffer zone” in the Sinai — a concentration camp presumably intended to hold Palestinians in the event of a mass expulsion of Palestinians by Israel, which remains looming as Israel continues to promise a mass escalation in Rafah, the very area it has spent the last 4 months concentrating the majority of the Palestinian population in Gaza.

This week Lara and Michael cover the story of the missing 6-year-old child by the name of Hind whose terrified phone calls circulated worldwide and the tragic disappearance of two civil defense workers who went looking for her. After recording, it was confirmed that Hind and the defense workers were killed by Israeli occupation soldiers. Lara covers stories of Israeli settlers blocking the entrance of aid into Gaza in violation of the ICJ order on provisional measures while Palestinian children die of starvation in Gaza as well as the discovery of a mass grave of 30 bound numbered bodies in a school in Northern Gaza. Michael comments on the long-term impact on the freedom struggle of the public narrative shifting to discuss the genocidal intent of the Zionist ideology.

This week Lara and Michael (mostly Lara) break down the significance of the ICJ ruling in the Genocide case brought by South Africa against Israel from the perspective of a Palestinian lawyer with an emphasis on international law. While this decision will not in and of itself compel Israel to stop bombing and starving Gaza, it gives us a useful tool to be used in furtherance of the freedom struggle. As Nkosi Mandela said when he appeared on the Palestine Pod in May 2021, all forms of resistance must be applied at once to cause the disruption necessary to bring about the collapse of the settler colonial apartheid Zionist regime.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with Plestia Alaqad, one of the leading voices from the ground in Gaza. She’s a primary source who survived and documented the ongoing genocide in Palestine in real time. Plestia shares reflections on the notion of believing you will have more time, survivor’s guilt, Gaza’s culture and close knit community and the fiction of choice when it comes to being a victim of Nakba.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with the President of the Amazon Labor Union, Chris Smalls. We read the ALU statement of solidarity with Palestine, talk about the history of unions both good and bad when it comes to the Zionist colonization of Palestine and resistance against it and the importance of organizing your workplace to get us closer to a place where we can call for a general strike.

This week Lara and Michael sit down with rapper activist and revolutionary, Immortal Technique. We discuss his path to learning about the Palestinian struggle for freedom and his lyrics critical of mainstream media and western democracy which helped to educate generations of liberators. We also provide updates from the ground of the ongoing genocide in Palestine committed by the zionist regime and its fanatic genocide supporters and enablers.

This week Lara and Michael cover the calls from occupied Bethlehem to cancel Christmas celebrations because of the genocide happening to the Palestinian people at the hands of the zionist regime in Gaza. We talk about how oppressed people are reliable narrators of their oppression and we should not wait for the colonizers or their allies in the mainstream media to confirm the lived experience of the colonized.

This week Lara and Michael cover the US blocking the UN Security Council vote on a permanent immediate ceasefire in Gaza. Lara reads through just one day's worth of death and destruction updates from Telegram. We also cover the assassination of beloved poet and academic Refaat Alareer and his sister's family in a targeted airstrike on his sister’s home in Gaza.

This week Lara and Michael cover the death march in Gaza whereby hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were forcibly displaced from their homes in the northern part of Gaza to the south on Salah Aldin road amidst sniper attacks, arbitrary searches, interrogations and more. We comment on the difference between the conditions of released hostages and gruesome accounts from the ground about the premature babies left to die because of the Israeli occupation siege on Al-Nasr hospital in the northern part of Gaza.