The Paceline Cycling Podcast

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1280" height="960" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_6161.jpeg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_6161.jpeg?w=1280&ssl=1 1280w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_6161.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_6161.jpeg?resize=1024%2C768&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_6161.jpeg?resize=150%2C113&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_6161.jpeg?resize=768%2C576&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_6161.jpeg?resize=86%2C64&ssl=1 86w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_6161.jpeg?resize=600%2C450&ssl=1 600w" sizes="(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px" /></div>This week Lori and Patrick welcome guest Paul Tolmé, the media relations director for Cascade Bicycle Club. With roughly 10,000 paying members, Cascade is one of the largest, if not the largest bicycle clubs in the country. We dig into their history, their rides and events and the incredible scope of their advocacy efforts.

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="2560" height="1920" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?w=2560&ssl=1 2560w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?resize=300%2C225&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?resize=150%2C112&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C576&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536&ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?resize=86%2C64&ssl=1 86w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?resize=600%2C450&ssl=1 600w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/IMG_1458-scaled.jpg?w=2340&ssl=1 2340w" sizes="(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px" /></div>This week, Lori and Patrick talk with Joel Sehloff, the West Coast head of OE sales for Factor Bicycles. He tells the story of his path through the bike industry, beginning with shop grom in Wisconsin, his time at Rotor USA, where he met Lori and on to his time with Factor.

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="2560" height="1707" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?w=2560&ssl=1 2560w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?resize=300%2C200&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?resize=1024%2C683&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?resize=150%2C100&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?resize=768%2C512&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1024&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?resize=2048%2C1365&ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1 600w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/DSC09295-scaled.jpeg?w=2340&ssl=1 2340w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px" /></div>This week Lori and Patrick talk to pro gravel rider Whitney Allison of Bike Sports in Fort Collins, Colo. Following an impressive career as a pro on the road, Whitney and her husband, Josh, opened Bike Sports, an operation that puts on the FoCo—the Fort Collins gravel fondo, serves as a fit studio and coaching […]

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="2048" height="1367" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/60431788_2357309817661823_560670017276870656_o.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/60431788_2357309817661823_560670017276870656_o.jpg?w=2048&ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/60431788_2357309817661823_560670017276870656_o.jpg?resize=300%2C200&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/60431788_2357309817661823_560670017276870656_o.jpg?resize=1024%2C684&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/60431788_2357309817661823_560670017276870656_o.jpg?resize=150%2C100&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/60431788_2357309817661823_560670017276870656_o.jpg?resize=768%2C513&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/60431788_2357309817661823_560670017276870656_o.jpg?resize=1536%2C1025&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/60431788_2357309817661823_560670017276870656_o.jpg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px" /></div>Lori and Patrick take a look at the pros and cons of group rides and the reasons why or why not a rider might consider doing them, if they aren’t already. Hint: They are believers. Show links:Lake CX403

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="2242" height="1048" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png?w=2242&ssl=1 2242w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png?resize=300%2C140&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png?resize=1024%2C479&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png?resize=150%2C70&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png?resize=768%2C359&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png?resize=1536%2C718&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png?resize=2048%2C957&ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Screenshot-2026-03-10-at-8.45.18-am.png?resize=600%2C280&ssl=1 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 2242px) 100vw, 2242px" /></div>Lori and Patrick talk cycling vacations and what draws their eye, as well as how riding through a landscape engages you with it. They look at some of the touring opportunities that have captured their interest. Show links:Gravel UnravelCascade Bicycle Club Winthrop Gravel TourKoo Alibi Eyewear

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1684" height="1024" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/tajinwoods.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/tajinwoods.jpg?w=1684&ssl=1 1684w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/tajinwoods.jpg?resize=300%2C182&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/tajinwoods.jpg?resize=1024%2C623&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/tajinwoods.jpg?resize=150%2C91&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/tajinwoods.jpg?resize=768%2C467&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/tajinwoods.jpg?resize=1536%2C934&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/tajinwoods.jpg?resize=600%2C365&ssl=1 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1684px) 100vw, 1684px" /></div>For those immersed in the world of BMX and/or freestyle riding, Taj Mihelich is an icon. Former World Champion and founder of the brands Terrible One and Fairdale Bicycles, Mihelich is also an accomplished artist whose work has appeared in Outside Magazine, Bicycling and Pink Bike. Lori and Patrick discuss with him how cycling has […]

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1280" height="960" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_5391.jpeg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_5391.jpeg?w=1280&ssl=1 1280w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_5391.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_5391.jpeg?resize=1024%2C768&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_5391.jpeg?resize=150%2C113&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_5391.jpeg?resize=768%2C576&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_5391.jpeg?resize=86%2C64&ssl=1 86w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_5391.jpeg?resize=600%2C450&ssl=1 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px" /></div>Stress does funny things to us. It can make us sleepy, irritable, drive us to drink or use other intoxicants. And the number it can play on our cardiovascular system, by hijacking our pulse and blood pressure can make an ordinary day seem impossible. Patrick and Lori explore ways they’ve used the bike to address […]

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1200" height="900" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/IMG_3901-scaled-e1771455320477.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" /></div>This week Lori and Patrick welcome guest David Wenger of Durata Training to the show. Wenger is a coach and bike fitter, not to mention a former national champion. His business, Durata, is based in Austin, Texas, where he works to fit clients, coach adult racers, and identify and develop up-and-coming talent.

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1200" height="800" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Brad-Huff.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Brad-Huff.jpg?w=1200&ssl=1 1200w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Brad-Huff.jpg?resize=300%2C200&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Brad-Huff.jpg?resize=1024%2C683&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Brad-Huff.jpg?resize=150%2C100&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Brad-Huff.jpg?resize=768%2C512&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Brad-Huff.jpg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></div>This week Lori and Patrick welcome former pro cyclist and multi-national champion Brad Huff. Brad was part of the early success of Jonathan Vaughters Slipstream team that led to Team Garmin, which helped to prove that cyclists can both be drug-free and win races. Brad’s path since retirement has been one of spiritual growth and helping […]

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1024" height="768" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Pogacar-Unstoppable-rotated-e1766497487957.jpeg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Pogacar-Unstoppable-rotated-e1766497487957.jpeg?w=1024&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Pogacar-Unstoppable-rotated-e1766497487957.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Pogacar-Unstoppable-rotated-e1766497487957.jpeg?resize=150%2C113&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Pogacar-Unstoppable-rotated-e1766497487957.jpeg?resize=86%2C64&ssl=1 86w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Pogacar-Unstoppable-rotated-e1766497487957.jpeg?resize=600%2C450&ssl=1 600w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Pogacar-Unstoppable-rotated-e1766497487957.jpeg?resize=768%2C576&ssl=1 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></div>Our guest today is Andy McGrath, author of the new Tadej Pogačar biography Unstoppable. He’s been editor of Rouleur magazine and chief reporter at Cycling Weekly. He’s won awards. And this is his third cycling book, following biographies of Tom Simpson and Frank Vandenbroucke. We spoke with him about that book when it came out, […]

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1602" height="1024" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/IMG_5563.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/IMG_5563.jpg?w=1602&ssl=1 1602w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/IMG_5563.jpg?resize=600%2C384&ssl=1 600w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/IMG_5563.jpg?resize=300%2C192&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/IMG_5563.jpg?resize=1024%2C655&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/IMG_5563.jpg?resize=768%2C491&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/IMG_5563.jpg?resize=1536%2C982&ssl=1 1536w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1602px) 100vw, 1602px" /></div>Trust is a funny thing. You gotta give it to get it. Patrick and Lori discuss trust and where it intersects with their cycling lives, and how cycling has informed how they build trust with others. Show links:Gulo Wheels

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1200" height="900" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/IMG_0934-scaled-e1741283218387.jpeg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" /></div>Not all technical advancements are created interesting. Some technical advancements are more interesting than others. This week, Patrick and Lori take a look at the tech that still invigorates their riding, or not. Show links: Active Release Technique Shimano Deore XT Di2

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1207" height="1024" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Copy-of-Screen-Shot-2025-12-05-at-11.33.18-AM.png" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Copy-of-Screen-Shot-2025-12-05-at-11.33.18-AM.png?w=1207&ssl=1 1207w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Copy-of-Screen-Shot-2025-12-05-at-11.33.18-AM.png?resize=300%2C255&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Copy-of-Screen-Shot-2025-12-05-at-11.33.18-AM.png?resize=1024%2C869&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Copy-of-Screen-Shot-2025-12-05-at-11.33.18-AM.png?resize=150%2C127&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Copy-of-Screen-Shot-2025-12-05-at-11.33.18-AM.png?resize=768%2C652&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Copy-of-Screen-Shot-2025-12-05-at-11.33.18-AM.png?resize=600%2C509&ssl=1 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1207px) 100vw, 1207px" /></div>This week Patrick and Lori welcome Ingmar Jungnickel, an aerodynamicist and the founder of AiRO, a fitting system based on rider aerodynamics. AiRO uses CFD (computational fluid dynamics) to simulate wind tunnel testing to give riders otherwise unaffordable feedback on their bike position.

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="2048" height="1536" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg?w=2048&ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg?resize=300%2C225&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg?resize=150%2C113&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg?resize=768%2C576&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg?resize=86%2C64&ssl=1 86w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/IMG_0182-2-e1768442716703.jpg?resize=600%2C450&ssl=1 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px" /></div>This week Lori and Patrick take a look at their origin stories and how pivotal it can be in someone’s life to have another person share cycling with them.

<div style="margin-bottom:20px;"><img width="1200" height="738" src="https://cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/image-1.png" class="attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/image-1.png?w=1200&ssl=1 1200w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/image-1.png?resize=300%2C185&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/image-1.png?resize=1024%2C630&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/image-1.png?resize=150%2C92&ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/image-1.png?resize=768%2C472&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/cyclingindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/image-1.png?resize=600%2C369&ssl=1 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></div>Patrick and Lori take a moment to acknowledge the passing of two bike industry players, Cannondale’s Joe Montgomery and product manager Brad Hughes, before turning their attention to an interview with Kevin Tisue, Pivot Cycles’ Head of Engineering. Kevin sheds light on how Pivot conceives and designs new mountain bikes. Learn more about Kevin’s bed […]