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The Occupational Philosophers - A not-so-serious business podcast to spark Creativity, Imagination and Curiosity

The Occupational Philosophers - A not-so-serious business podcast to spark Creativity, Imagination and Curiosity

The Occupational Philosophers

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Show overview

The Occupational Philosophers - A not-so-serious business podcast to spark Creativity, Imagination and Curiosity has been publishing since 2021, and across the 5 years since has built a catalogue of 113 episodes. That works out to roughly 80 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.

Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 13 min and 1h 12m — with run-times ranging widely across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 1 months ago, with 4 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2022, with 38 episodes published. Published by The Occupational Philosophers.

Episodes
113
Running
2021–2026 · 5y
Median length
48 min
Cadence
Fortnightly

From the publisher

Would you like to unlock the creative, imaginative and innovative potential in your team or organisation…BUT…don’t want to listen to another serious podcast which offers 7 steps, 5 habits, 3 mantras, and a hard sell in a pear tree?Then join ‘The Occupational Philosophers’, a ‘not-so-serious’ podcast with Simon Banks (middle-aged Australian surfer man, artist and published author) and John Rice (middle-aged British man with a love of curiosity and philosophy) as they chat with a ‘clowder’ (great word!) of curious cats from the fields of Comedy, Academia, Philosophy, Neuroscience, Psychology, Design, Marketing, and Business, to explore how you, your team, and your organisation, can develop your curiosity, spark your creativity, and free your imagination, so you can grow your business and your people….sounds great huh?!But don’t just take our word for it, read what our listeners think:“Worth a listen, one of them has a strange Australian accent”“They’re not philosophers, they’re idiots”“If you like business, philosophy, humour, creativity, and imagination, then have a listen - if not, then I would leave well alone”http://www.occupationalphilosophers.com

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Ep. 115: Photography: the art of seeing and failing your way to creativity, with guest, Kurt Sneddon.

Apr 17, 20261h 4m

Ep 114: Guest episode with Katherine Boydell, Professor of Mental Health at the Black Dog Institure

Mar 18, 202655 min

Ep 113Ep. 113: Guest episde with writer, broadcaster, performer and professional seeker, David Bramwell

In this episode 113, the Occupational Philosophers chat with the wonderfully curious David Bramwell - a writer, broadcaster, performer and professional seeker. He’s the author of The Number 9 Bus to Utopia, a philosophical travel memoir, in which he went looking for different and potentially better ways of living. He’s presented many programmes for BBC Radio 3 and BBC Radio 4 on subjects ranging from Ivor Cutler, Ken Campbell and time travel, to the art of public speaking. As a podcaster, he produces and presents Adventures in Nutopia and The Ways of Water, and has co-hosted other popular podcasts including, Odditorium, Watling Street with author John Higgs, and Seeker! The Ken Campbell Podcast with Daisy Campbell. In 2020 his book The Cult of Water was published, exploring belief and rituals, and then in 2023 he self-published The Singalong-A-Wicker-Man Scrapbook. Since 2004 he has been hosting Brighton’s Catalyst Club, a monthly salon at which three guest speakers from all walks of life take to the stage to talk about their passions. As a performer, he has toured several solo shows and performed at Soho Theatre, Somerset House, Tate St Ives, TEDx, Idler Academy, MOMA, UK festivals, and the Lowry Theatre. And finally there's Oddfellow's Casino, an eclectic band project that blends spoken word, music and storytelling, and who are approaching their 25th anniversary this year. In this episode they explore a wide range of topic including: How to use Brexit to dodge home DIY and tasks The Singalong-a-Wicker-Man show! Panpsychism and consciousness (Does Broccoli dream of sheep?) How do tomatoes feel about being eaten? Are tomatoes controlling us? What sparked David’s curiosity superpower? What fashion items are best for a philosophical data analyst? What lessons David learned on ‘The Number 9 Bus to Utopia’ How alternative communities show great creativity and imagination What the everyday interests of everyday people can tell us about curiosity and being human How we might engage better with people who have different views to ourselves What is the official name for a ‘Bum Reader’? And as ever, enjoy the Thought Experiment …this time it’s: Where is this bus going? Learn more about David https://www.drbramwell.com/ https://oddfellowscasino.bandcamp.com/ https://catalystclub.co.uk/ https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/adventures-in-nutopia/id1649333497 References Trevor Noah https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/nonprofittechies/microsoft-and-trevor-noah-a-partnership-for-asking-questions/4036636 Australian Writers Festival boycott https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgm4jkwz2z8 The Wicker Man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wicker_Man Crows picking up cigarette butts https://stevedalepetworld.com/blog/something-to-crow-about/ Panpsychism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panpsychism Philip Goff https://philipgoffphilosophy.com/ Museum of Curiosity https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00k3wvk Spalding Gray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spalding_Gray Rudolph Steiner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner Underground Temple https://thetemples.org/ Shark House https://museumofoxford.org/bill-heine-the-man-behind-the-headington-shark/ Findhorn https://visitfindhorn.uk/ The Min Min Light https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/jun/27/what-are-glowing-orbs-of-light-in-the-sky-world-over The Positive Revolution https://www.amazon.co.uk/Handbook-Positive-Revolution-Edward-Bono/dp/0670830127 La Bete https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14407336/ November https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6164502/ The Web of Meaning https://www.jeremylent.com/the-web-of-meaning.html John and Simon hope you enjoy the show as much as they enjoyed making it. Its the reason they started this show - interesting, cool and creative people who have taken the path less travelled and kicked arse! Say Hello to the OP www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN Bowland Consulting SIMON www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL

Feb 3, 20261h 24m

Ep 112Ep. 112: Guest episde with artists and Graphic Rewilders Catherine Borowoski and Lee Baker

In Episode 112, The Occupational Philosophers chat with the artists, Catherine Borowski and Lee Baker, two exceptionally talented guests who show the true power of creative collaboration and imagination. Together they have brought to life the SKIP Gallery; an international, collaborative, multi-disciplinary public art project dedicated to creating much-needed space, opportunities, funding and advocacy for emerging artists. The original idea was to forge opportunities for artistic interventions in unexpected places by repurposing rubbish skips. In addition, they are also the founders of Graphic Rewilding, another large-scale public art project/s creating vast, flower inspired, attention grabbing, positivity inducing artworks and immersive environments in often-overlooked and under-appreciated urban spaces And finally, PRODUCE UK provides a wide range of services for experiential event and placemaking clients; they have amassed an impressive portfolio of experience, working with such clients as Lumiere Light Festival, London Festival of Architecture, Cartoon Network, London Festival Week, Hem, Vanity Fair, Nike, Adidas and Discovery Channel. In this episode, they explore: Public art, everyday objects and filling a skip Bringing nature into urban landscapes How jarring your thinking can lead to greater levels of creativity Madonna’s spiritual practice as a source of success Enjoying the process of making art Why being bored could be the greatest gift to curiosity and creativity How distraction is the thief of creativity What good collaboration looks like - it’s not all smooth sailing… The beauty and psychological benefits of graphic rewilding How communities are enhanced through public art And as ever, enjoy the Thought Experiment …this time it’s: Skip or Big Bin? Learn more about Catherine and Lee https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-borowski-7b531b8/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/lee-baker-ba2815145/ https://www.graphicrewilding.com/ https://www.produceuk.com/ https://www.instagram.com/catherine.borowski/ https://www.tiktok.com/@graphic_rewilding/video/7507316102276517142 References https://www.linkedin.com/posts/danielpink_this-one-image-can-make-you-more-creative-activity-7385767635411718144-Njqb/ https://veganfta.com/articles/2025/10/23/the-milking-herd-parades-through-london-to-protest-against-dairy/ https://www.michaeljohansson.com/ https://www.melrobbins.com/episode/episode-324/ https://www.merlinsheldrake.com/entangled-life https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/madonna-jay-shetty-podcast-spiritualism-kabbalah-b2835518.html https://hbr.org/2025/08/you-need-to-be-bored-heres-why John and Simon hope you enjoy the show as much as they enjoyed making it. Its the reason they started this show - interesting, cool and creative people who have taken the path less travelled and kicked arse! Say Hello to the OP www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN Bowland Consulting SIMON www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL

Jan 7, 20261h 12m

Ep 111Ep.111: Guest episode with Cristy Burne - Scientist & Storyteller, Author (x 18!) & Creative, Adventurer & Entrepreneur

Episode 111 Cristy Burne: Scientist, Author, Creator, Storyteller Author, science communicator and adventure-loving human Cristy Burne joins The Occupational Philosophers to explore creativity, play, curiosity and the joy of living boldly. In this episode, John and Simon chat with award-winning author and science communicator Cristy Burne. With 23 books under her belt, a stint at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider, and a mission to ignite curiosity in kids and adults alike, Cristy brings her signature mix of energy, humour and insight. The conversation goes everywhere from how to spark creativity in everyday life, to why we all need to play more and embrace the chaos of being human. Also, there’s a leech-in-your-eyeball story. Of course there is. In this episode, they chat about Why fun and play are the gateway drugs to creativity and curiosity The role of adults in showing kids that growing up can be joyful How to find creativity in the corners and gaps of your day Why perfection is the enemy of progress (especially when dancing) How to reframe drudgery by reconnecting with your higher purpose Giving yourself permission to try, fail, and keep going The Large Padron Collider, Bonbon Collider and other very real science experiments Why Cristy recommends you don’t visit crustybum.com Along the way, they cover Bluey, book week, Barack Obama’s suits, marshmallow metaphors, AI bosses, and the very underrated joy of sitting in dirt. About Cristy Burne Cristy is a science writer, presenter, former patent translator and a STEM ambassador who has worked with astronauts, Nobel Prize winners and yes, a surprising number of chefs. She’s passionate about science communication, joy, adventure, and bringing stories to life. Her work includes everything from graphic novels to science thrillers, and she recently launched a creative stage show with Trudy Boatwright for World Expo in Japan. Find Cristy Burne at cristyburne.com Cristy on Goodreads Cristy on Instagram Mentions and references Bluey – ABC Kids The book Rest by Alex Soojung-Kim Pang World Expo Osaka 2025 Large Hadron Collider – CERN Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN Bowland Consulting SIMON www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL

Sep 26, 20251h 12m

Ep 110Ep 110: Inbetweener - How to turn mundane life experiences into Linkedin business lessons

Ep. 110: Have you noticed how almost anything can now be turned into a LinkedIn Business lesson? The Occupational Philosophers sure have and decided to explore this phenomenon, and in the process created a template for anyone to do this (and turn your own mundane life experiences into LinkedIn GOLD) The template is as follows: Something happens... Which made me think... Insight: Question? Once you start, it's so easy to turn every day, mundane experiences into LinkedIn lessons and importantly, you will never be short of inspiration for business wisdom again, well on your way to thought leadership. John and Simon truly enjoyed making this show and they hope you can now mine your everyday life for business metaphors, to be shared 3 x week on LinkedIn. Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN Bowland Consulting SIMON www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL

Aug 12, 202513 min

Ep 109Episode 109: Guest episode with New York Times bestselling author & travel Philosopher Eric Weiner

In Episode 109, The Occupational Philosophers chat with Eric Weiner, an award-winning journalist, a New York Times bestselling author, and much sought-after keynote speaker on a variety of topics, including happiness, innovation strategies and the "power of place." He regularly leads writing workshops around the world. He is a former foreign correspondent for NPR and reporter for The New York Times. He's reported from more than 30 nations, from Iraq to Indonesia, covering some of the major international events of recent times. He is the recipient of several journalism awards, including the Angel Award for coverage of Islamic affairs in Asia. His work has appeared in The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Atlantic, National Geographic, AFAR, among other publications. And his books include The Geography of Bliss, The Geography of Genius, Man Seeks God and The Socrates Express. His latest book, Ben & Me, has recently been published this year. In this episode, they explore: What colour is Tuesday? The philosophy of place How many bags Eric has….and whether he has a collection or an obsession Narrative truth vs factual truth Moving between being a journalist and being a writer How creative genius springs from place and environment Why openness to experience is at the root of creativity What Benjamin Franklin can teach us about curiosity, creativity, imagination and play How rituals can help focus your creative energy Creating a ‘sandbox’ to experiment in The meaning of life….purpose and gritty bits… And as ever, enjoy the Thought Experiment …this time it’s: Your place or mind? Learn more about Eric http://www.ericweinerbooks.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-weiner-17aa8639/ References https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/exhibition/michelangelo-leonardo-raphael https://www.independentthinking.co.uk/speakers/ian-gilbert/ https://europa.nasa.gov/mission/about/ https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/133768-one-s-destination-is-never-a-place-but-a-new-way https://www.carryology.com/ https://freedom.to/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi-Fu_Tuan https://www.celticglory.com/thin-place

Jul 4, 20251h 9m

Ep 108Episode 108 Inbetweener - Rick Rubin and the Creative Act

Ep.108 Rick Rubin and the Creative Act John and Simon explore the creative wisdom of music producer Rick Rubin and what it means to bring creativity into everyday work and life What does it really mean to be creative? In this Inbetweener episode, The Occupational Philosophers explore the insights of legendary music producer Rick Rubin, whose work spans from the Beastie Boys to Adele. Drawing on his book The Creative Act: A Way of Being, John and Simon unpack practical ways anyone can bring more creativity, curiosity and openness into their life and work. In this episode, Simon and John chat about Why creativity is not a job title or output, but a way of being The artist as a vessel, and how great ideas often come from creating the space for them to arrive Detaching from outcomes and letting the creative process unfold Why constraints and rituals are powerful tools to spark creativity Why originality is overrated. Everything is a remix Sensitivity as a superpower. How tuning in helps you see what others miss Along the way, they cover Sistine Chapel replicas, rugby league fandom, urban sketching, and how sensitivity and curiosity are deeply linked. Links and references The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick Rubin English Sistine Chapel Replica Goring Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN Bowland Consulting SIMON www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL

Jun 9, 202538 min

Ep 107Ep.107: Guest episode with Dr Jochen Schweitzer

In episode 107, The Occupational Philosophers chat with the highly curious Dr Jochen Schweitzer, a strategy, innovation, and entrepreneurship researcher and education leader at UTS, Director of the Executive MBA, advisor, and author. His research, teaching and consulting focus on issues of strategy, collaboration, entrepreneurship and innovation with a special interest in design thinking, emerging technologies and open innovation. Jochen was a visiting Scholar at Stanford University and Hasso Plattner Institute (HPI) School of Design Thinking at Potsdam University. Before joining the UTS Business School, he taught at the UTS schools of Design and Architecture and Macquarie University. Jochen is a passionate educator who has taught at universities in the UK, Japan, China, the US, Germany, the Netherlands and New Zealand and won numerous awards, too many to mention. He was a principal at PricewaterhouseCoopers, a production engineer at Volkswagen and a program manager at the Goethe Institute. Jochen is also the founder of U.lab, an interdisciplinary think tank and platform for innovation projects. Apart from his academic pursuits, Jochen is an active member of the entrepreneurship community and has mentored and advised numerous startups. Interesting titles from co-authored papers A Very Short, Fairly Interesting and Reasonably Cheap Book About Studying Strategy Herding cats to co-create cross-university courses in record time Avoid being the Turkey: How big data analytics changes the game of strategy in times of ambiguity and uncertainty So a very interesting guest!! In this episode, the Occupational Philosophers explore: The five key attributes for an entrepreneurial mindset and behaviours How entrepreneurialism comes from 'doing it' The importance of building your own startup How Stoicism is a key part of entrepreneurialism What 90% of startups that failed haven't found The challenge of implementing design and design thinking in organisations If you want to solve a problem, start with what pisses you off Failing that, ask “what do you desire and what makes you itch?” Find your tribe, find your network, maintain it Why boards need to embrace curiosity and look around the corner What is Design Thinking? As always, there is a thought experiment to stretch the mind. In this episode, it's Ferret or Fantasy? The start-up world animal kingdom. There are also some listener questions, which are always a treat. The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy listening to the show as much as they did making it. Jochen Links Linktree (all links): https://linktr.ee/jochenschweitzer UTS Academic Profile: https://profiles.uts.edu.au/jochen.schweitzer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jochenschweitzer Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=3aWHIb4AAAAJ ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jochen-Schweitzer ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0003-1807-6720 Academia.edu: https://uts-academia.academia.edu/JochenSchweitzer Personal/Project Website: https://besyd.com Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs: JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/ SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg

May 13, 20251h 12m

Ep 106Ep.106: Hello 2025 - Curious Questions for Curious Dinner Parties - and other fun events

Hello and welcome back to 2025! (Noting the irony that is is now April...) The Occupational Philosophers have returned from walking the Earth, exploring the heavens and astral travelling beyond the stratosphere - metaphorically and literally. Feeling refreshed, joyous and 1.27% more wise, they are excited for the new season of the show. This episode combines the loves of both John and Simon: Great questions and raucous dinner parties. As it's a new season, John and Simon explored a bunch of new dinner party questions that move beyond the usual, "What do you do?" (SNORE....) These include: Is there a habit or ritual in your day that feels somewhat sacred and you don’t like to miss? You're putting together a diverse team you would love to work with. Who might they be and why? What’s something you’ve recently started looking at differently? What’s a question you wish people asked you more often? When do you feel most intellectually alive? It's a curious discussion to kick off a most curious new season for a show that's a lot about curiosity. Simon and John hope you enjoy the show. Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs: JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/ SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg

Apr 9, 202532 min

Ep 105Ep.105 - Happy (late) New Year, Christmas Vibes and what caught our curious eye in 24

Reflecting on the year of 2024 seemed like such a good idea. That's the thing right? Launching that episode as quickly as planned didn't go as well as planned.... Drinking their own Kool-Aid and embracing serendipity, mistakes and experimentation The Occupational Philosophers still hit launch and took on the gift of a slightly delayed episode like a gift from the Norse Gods. In this episode the deep themes of: Are bananas and tape art? If not, who said so? Brain Rot (very festive) The Occupational Philosophers wish you all the best for 2025 whilst they take a short break. Simon's vanity will be in full forward as he desperately tries to lose some weight for summer beach vibes and John will be sadly staring out the window looking at a grey, drab British day and looking forward to June when the sun comes out They both look forward to catching up in mid Feb when back on deck - ahoy 2025! Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs: JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/ SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg

Jan 5, 202514 min

Ep 103Ep.103: Guest episode with Creative Director & Brand Strategist, Rozhia Tabnak

In episode 103, The Occupational Philosophers chat with Creative Director, Brand Strategist and Poly-Disciplinary Creative Chameleon, Rozhia Tabnak. Her work includes interior design, art curation, film production design, and graphic work across the spectrum of media. which unite under the umbrella of spatial design. She believes that the design of a space is holistic yet interpretive and that the experience of the client is inextricable from the intent of the designer. From Manhattan to Miami and several cities in between, Rozhia has designed dozens of restaurants, including the highly acclaimed and award-winning Sofreh in Brooklyn, for which she incorporated a historic and traditional Persian aesthetic into a chic contemporary design. She has been featured in The New York Times, The New Yorker, Eater and New York Magazin to name a few and divides her time between New York and Sydney. In this episode, the Occupational Philosophers and Rozhia explore: How does a project have a soul? How curiosity is at the heart of great design Why branding is not just thinking about a logo (and a dirty word) What is steampunk? Exactly, what is a Polydisciplinary creative chameleon? The importance of asking why What’s my personal why? Why does the world need what I am producing? How Curiosity starts with being present Can you create workspaces that can be both productive and creative? Why there is no middle ground And the future hashtag of "Kitch is just past cheesy" As always, there are some great thought experiments. This time it is the design challenge of "Mission Impossible" The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy listening to the show as much as they enjoyed making it. www.occupationalphilosophers.com About Rozhia Rozhia Website https://rozhiatabnak.com/ Insta https://www.instagram.com/rozhia/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/rozhia-tabnak-725b0319/ Show notes & Resources Everything is alive https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/everything-is-alive/id1388419519 London poetry shop cafe https://www.poetrypharmacy.co.uk/oxford-street Book - Wabi Sabi for artists, poets and Designers https://www.amazon.com.au/Wabi-Sabi-Artists-Designers-Poets-Philosophers/dp/0981484603

Dec 6, 20241h 16m

Ep 102Ep. 102 - Inbetweener - We are 100 and something!

In this short, sharp Inbetweener episode, The Occupational Philosophers celebrate their “One hundred and something” birthday! As well as an opportunity to blow up some balloons, eat some cake, and pat themselves on the back…they delve back into some highlights from the first 100 episodes and some sage advice from guests who have helped populate the ‘Maniguesto’ tree… Dr Brock Bastian….Social psychologist…just remember to enjoy the journey Professor Sophie Scott….Neuroscientist….how laughter is the gateway drug to creativity Dr Jen Frahm….change fairy….take more hot showers to spark ideas (literally and metaphorically!) Ash Perrin…The Flying Seagull Project….every great idea starts out as rubbish Neil Mullarkey….improv genius and general legend…remember that people are trying their best Dr Cyndi Burnett….creativity in education….be open to the novel They hope you enjoy the show. FYI: The Inbetweeners episodes are just that - smaller episodes 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a fruity burst of energy to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process. References: https://www.brockbastian.com/ https://www.ucl.ac.uk/icn/people/sophie-scott https://drjenfrahm.com/ https://www.theflyingseagullproject.com/ https://neilmullarkey.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/cyndi-burnett/ Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/ SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg

Nov 6, 202421 min

Ep 101Ep.101: Guest episode with Change Hotel co-founder (and mighty Tasmanian) Toby Wilkin

To Simon’s delight, this week's guest is fellow Tasmanian Toby Wilkin. For over 15 years, Toby has been a noteworthy leader in the entrepreneurial space. Born and raised in Tasmania Toby, thoroughly understands tourism and business in the state and beyond. Growing up in an entrepreneurial family in the construction, business and development industry he has shared this passion and success in his entrepreneurial adventures. Toby has a series of different companies under the groups control including: Wealth Lab - Taking our experience and world-class sales systems to help other businesses thrive, offering sales & marketing coaching, events and digital presence products. Torple Energy - An energy rating consultancy firm focusing on sustainable outcomes for new development across Australia. Zippi Electric Bikes - Focussed on Raising Balanced Kids, this innovative startup was all about fun and kid-focused with Electric eBikes. In this show, John and Simon dive into Change Overnight. Toby and cofounder Sam Haberle conjured up the idea behind Change Overnight in early 2018 while dreaming of ways they could extend their mission to make a positive impact in the world. Outside of being a serial entrepreneur, Toby enjoys technology, making a difference and thinking big! In this episode, The Occupational Philosophers explore: If you’re open, people seem to present themselves at the right time How a little wine can bring about some big ideas How colours and design can make us feel and connect to emotion It’s OK to be a little uncomfortable The importance of allowing serendipity and how it can open up opportunity Why it’s important to put some good energy into the world How 12 months can seem a long time to some people and a short time to others Why a little red wine can be the start of a good idea As always, there is a thought experiment. For this show, it's Trip(advisor) of a lifetime The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy listening to the show as much as they enjoyed making it. Resources Toby Wilkin website https://tobywilkin.com/ Change Overnight Hotel https://changeovernight.co/ Why Worry Wally Books https://whyworrywally.com/why-worry-wally Derren Brown The Secret of Luck (featuring the unlucky butcher!) https://youtu.be/RuRGzZAk7S4?si=z7x84NeFSZPfKPKR Say Hello to the Occupational Philosophers www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs: JOHN: www.bowlandconsulting.com SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg

Oct 28, 202453 min

Ep 100Ep. 100 - Guest episode with Julie Trell - Founder, Chief Play Officer, Explorer and Applied Improvisor!

In Episode 100, The Occupational Philosophers chat with Julie Trell, whose career has been an adventurous journey spanning three decades and various corners of the world. She started as an inner-city classroom teacher and later became a middle school technology specialist, where she embraced inner playfulness (as well as fixing - and breaking - the computers and network). Through serendipity and curiosity, she evolved into the VP of All Things Fun, Meaningful, & Rewarding at a (then) startup called Salesforce. Her path then took her through the vibrant landscapes of Atlanta, San Francisco, Singapore, and Sydney, venturing into the realms of technology and corporate foundation leadership with the Salesforce and Workday Foundations. In Australia, she led Telstra's corporate startup accelerator, muru-D - There she managed a team and a portfolio of over 140 companies, focusing on supporting the founders across various cohorts. As the Chief Play Officer of Playful Purpose, she embraces the power of an improv mindset to foster growth and playful spirits among adults. She co-designs and facilitates dynamic workshops for accelerators, portfolio funds, and corporate teams, helping participants unleash curiosity, build confidence, and deepen their understanding of DEI and empathy. My passion for new technologies and continuous learning blends artificial intelligence, AI, with applied improv, AI! In this episode, they explore: Exciting job titles to share at your next dinner party How applied improvisation is the AI we should really be focused on! Using play to help individuals, teams and organisations fire up their creative synapses How Generative applied improv helps us exercise our critical thinking skills How to make people feel heard and feel good when working together What is curiosivity? Julie’s work with startups, founders and incubators Techniques to tackle the ‘play skeptcis’ And how to create floral bouquets out of old toilet roll tubes! And as ever, enjoy the Thought Experiments …this time it’s: Through the port (manteau) hole Listeners questions Learn more about Julie https://www.linkedin.com/in/julietrell/ https://playfulpurpose.com/ References https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8erpgy727jo https://www.nosuchthingasafish.com/ Toilet paper roll flowers - You can check link here. https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1163022-act-social https://www.appliedimprovisationnetwork.org/ The quote: "Being heard is so close to being loved that for the average person, they are almost indistinguishable”. (David W. Augsburger) - BOOK:Caring Enough to Hear and Be Heard: How to Hear and How to Be Heard in Equal Communication https://muru-d.com/ https://www.sxswsydney.com/ Clip from Whose Startup Is It Anyway Books: https://www.breakthroughplay.com/playful-rebellion/ https://www.improvwisdom.com/index.html https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44333271-playful-mindfulness Say Hello to the Occupational Philosophers www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs: JOHN: www.bowlandconsulting.com SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg

Oct 16, 20241h 13m

Ep 99Ep.99 - Inbetweener - Is it time for a national serious day?

In episode 99, The Occupational Philosophers, as an antidote to the worrying rise of 'play at work'. ponder the idea of "Is it time for a National Serious Day? Sure, play is good for many things (that the show talks about a lot), but what about the forgotten folk? Those who like to start blankly at a wall, never smile and love doing spreadsheets? What about the person who hasn't smiled since 1997? Who is thinking of them? They should be celebrated! Possible activities could be: Mandatory silence for the first three hours of the day (with fines for facial expressions and any type of talking) A meeting about meetings (Mandatory of course) Mandatory team activity of going through all HR handbooks or any ISO 9001 Quality Manual It's almost like a corporate liver cleanse diet to flush out any frivolity and fun. Worryingly, John started to realise that he actually likes the sound of this and realised that he just wants to get on with looking at his screen. Numerous studies also back up what's possible when teams, families and even couples embrace a more serious outlook. It's like a modern-day version of stoicism that is about to take off. They hope you enjoy the show. FYI: The Inbetweeners episodes are just that - smaller episodes 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a fruity burst of energy to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process. Is your company innovative? Take the Scorecard for an instant report https://empoweringinnovation.scoreapp.com/ Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/ SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg

Oct 1, 202413 min

Ep 98Ep.98 - Inbetweener - How might one think like a Philosopher (at work) ?

How might one think like a Philosopher in the workplace? In this short, sharp Inbetweener episode, diving into a book by a previous guest, Dr Julian Baggini’s “How to Think like a Philosopher” " the Occupational Philosophers discuss exactly that! Julian Baggini has 12 key principles that the book is built around for a more humane, balanced, and rational approach to thinking. These include: Pay attention Question everything (including your questions) Watch your steps Follow the facts Watch your language Be eclectic Be a psychologist Know what matters Lose your ego Think for yourself, not by yourself Only connect Don’t give up. Whilst they don’t want to big themselves up, The Occupational Philosophers think that diving into Julian’s Book helps them sound a little more intelligent than normal! Whilst you may not agree that they sound smarter, the book is excellent. They hope you enjoy the show. FYI: The Inbetweeners episodes are just that - smaller episodes 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a fruity burst of energy to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process. References: Selective Attention: Gorilla walking video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo Julian Baggini “How to think like a Philosopher” https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/62708028-how-to-think-like-a-philosopher Say Hello www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/ SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg

Sep 20, 202435 min

Ep 97Ep.97 - Inbetweener - Is your thinking a little bland? Time to liberate structures

Have you ever sat in a brainstorm and thought, "Well this is pretty shit." Most of us have and it sucks the energy out of the room like a backwards tornado. John had a great week, read a book and got so excited about it, he wanted to share some of the possible antidotes to those crap house brainstorms. In this short, sharp Inbetweener episode, The Occupational Philosophers discuss: How conventional structures for the way teams meet, problem-solve, and think creatively may be holding them back Why “Liberating Structures’ can help unleash a culture of innovation What happens when you get bats, nans and hippos in the room Some examples of liberating structures; 1-2-4-All, Troika consulting and Min Specs What is the difference between an MVP and a prototype? Why we still need to think about the environment along with structures How to reach out beyond your immediate domain of knowledge to open up minds to possibilities As ever, The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy the show (and tell your friends) FYI: The Inbetweeners episodes are just that - smaller episodes 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a fruity burst of energy to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process. References: https://www.liberatingstructures.com/ https://www.barbaradoran.org/ Say 'Hello'... www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg Get in touch [email protected]

Aug 22, 202426 min

Ep 96Ep.96 - Guest episode with Neil Mullarkey - Improv Maestro, Actor, Author, Comedian and Leadership Expert

In Episode 96, The Occupational Philosophers chat with a returning guest, Neil Mullarkey! Neil who embodies the ethos of this shows and plays at the intersection of curiosity, creativity, and serendipity! His last conversation with the show was way back in 2021 when the world was still reeling from the pandemic, the Tories were still in power, and Jeff Bezos was launching himself into space into a strangely shaped spacecraft…. He co-founded the world-famous improvisation group The Comedy Store Players here in the UK with Mike Myers, later appearing with him in the fabulous Austin Powers movies….who can forget “This sort of thing is my bag baby”...and more recently with Mike Myers in the Pentaverate sporting a lovely moustache. He is also highly accomplished in the field of management training, running many workshops and conferences for private and public organisations, using the techniques of theatre improvisation to inspire business people to embrace their creativity and enhance their communication skills. He is a published author of Seven Steps to Improve Your People Skills, and the more recent, In the Moment - both great books and highly recommended It’s a real delight to welcome back, the man both ‘In the moment’ and man of the moment....Neil Mullarkey!!!! In this episode, the Occupational Philosophers explore: The different ways you can organise your bookshelves What is a moment? How you can build a Cathedral if everyone brings a brick! What is adaptive leadership? Why you need to trust the process of collaborative creativity, saying ‘Yes to the mess’ When you need to be prepared and when you need to let go Could AI replace Neil? The experience of writing his book ‘In the Moment’ Why don’t people say ‘ancillary’ or ‘flan’ anymore? When is a LAGER a LASER? And what does that have to do with Improv? The wave-particle duality of light…..quantum facilitation anyone? Why is curiosity the yin to serendipity’s yang? The story of the ‘lucky butcher’... And as ever, enjoy the Thought Experiment …this time it’s: In the What? Learn more about Neil https://neilmullarkey.com https://neilmullarkey.com/inthemomentbook (Discount code available!) https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmullarkey https://comedystoreplayers.com https://www.improvyourbiz.com https://acknowledgements.substack.com References https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67871679.amp https://news.sky.com/story/hotel-looking-to-hire-banter-merchant-to-entertain-guests-during-edinburgh-festival-fringe-13175451 https://www.michaelconnelly.com https://www.waterstones.com/book/my-family/david-baddiel/9780008487607 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambozola

Aug 16, 20241h 19m

Ep 95Ep.95 - Inbetweener - If everything is so ambiguous, why is ambiguity avoided?

In episode 95, whilst exploring the nuances of everyday occurrences and slipping between conscious states of being, The Occupational Philosophers dive into the concept of ambiguity. Why? The reason? So many challenges that need to be solved have a huge amount of ambiguity around them. There may be multiple answers It's a multi-faceted question It's something where there are no comparable, predictable scenarios As such, there is risk What to do? It's hard for organisations to sit in this space as they are hardwired to try and rationally avoid risk and to look after their profits and shareholders. However, innovation is born from that space of uncertainty, experimentation and what often hasn't been done before. Herein lies a conundrum! The Occupational Philosophers go for a swim in the lake of ambiguity, backstroking through curious questions and diving to the bottom to pick up some rocks of enlightenment. Whilst not having all the answers, they did feel slightly smarter at the end of the episode. They also dive into the ambiguous mind puzzle of the Rubix Cube. Mmmm.... The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy the show! FYI: This is a shorter episode 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a little kickstart to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process Say 'Hello'... www.occupationalphilosophers.com Their day jobs JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg Get in touch [email protected]

Jul 29, 202428 min
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