
The New Evangelicals Podcast
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291. TNE TALKS: "I Lived Through Project 2025" with Tia Levings
Summary Tia Levins shares her experience growing up in Christian patriarchy and her journey to escape it. She discusses the influence of the quiver full movement and the pressure to have as many children as possible. Tia explains how she was mentored by women in the church who promoted quiver full ideals and the complementarian lifestyle. She also highlights the lack of counter information and the normalization of abuse within this culture. Tia's story serves as a warning about the dangers of extreme patriarchy and the need to resist it. Tia shares her experience of being in a high-control, patriarchal Christian environment and her journey to escape it. She discusses the challenges of living with a husband who had erratic behavior and the pressure to keep her newborn quiet. Tia explains how she internalized the violence and believed it was her fault. She also talks about the influence of the family-integrated church movement and the shift towards grooming young sons to become future leaders. Tia reveals the extreme practices she endured, including wife discipline, and the process of deconstruction and healing she went through after escaping. She emphasizes the importance of naming experiences and staying curious in spirituality. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 13:28 Transition to Extreme Patriarchy 23:49 Lack of Counter Information and Normalization of Abuse 27:15 The Influence of the Family-Integrated Church Movement 33:09 Extreme Practices: Wife Discipline 41:23 Escaping and the Process of Deconstruction 44:21 Reclaiming Spirituality on One's Own Terms Tia's Book | A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy ______________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

290. TNE RECAPS: Kamala Harris is Black, Olympics 2024, & Project 2025 Explained
In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various topics, including the controversy surrounding the Olympic opening ceremony, Trump's remarks at the Believers Summit, and their experience visiting the Ark Encounter. They express frustration with the outrage over trivial matters and the lack of attention given to more important issues. They also highlight the need for Christians to represent Jesus well and focus on issues that truly matter. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics, including the controversy surrounding the Believer's Summit, the problematic views of Doug Wilson, Trump's appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists convention, and the implications of Project 2025. They also touch on the absurd interpretations of the Olympic opening ceremony and announce their attendance at Theology Beer Camp. Takeaways The outrage over trivial matters distracts from more important issues that require attention. The focus on cultural controversies often stems from a weak and narcissistic form of evangelicalism. Jesus does not need defending; he needs people to represent him well. The interpretation of Trump's remarks at the Believers Summit can vary, but it is concerning to hear him suggest that Christians won't have to vote again. The outrage over the Olympic opening ceremony reflects a fear and discomfort with people living as their authentic selves. There is a need to prioritize issues such as genocide, poverty, hate, and greed over trivial controversies. The Believer's Summit sparked controversy due to the presence of controversial figures like Doug Wilson, whose views on sex and slavery are highly problematic. Trump's appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists convention was met with criticism, as he evaded direct questions and made insensitive remarks. Project 2025, a conservative playbook, continues to be a cause for concern, despite the director stepping down amid backlash from Trump. Tim and April will be attending Theology Beer Camp, an event that brings together theologians, podcasters, and individuals seeking a better way forward in their faith. Chapters 03:06 Traveling and the Ark Encounter 09:07 The Olympic Controversy 14:21 The Weakness of Evangelicalism 17:39 Interpreting Trump's Remarks 24:17 The Power of Words and Prioritizing Issues 40:02 Controversy Surrounding the Believer's Summit 41:25 Problematic Views of Doug Wilson 48:38 Trump's Appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention 52:53 Implications of Project 2025 01:14:25 Absurd Interpretations of the Olympic Opening Ceremony 01:18:13 Announcement: Attendance at Theology Beer Camp ______________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

289. TNE RESPONDS: Exposing the Racism of Christian Nationalism
ESummary In this episode, Tim and Dr. Kevin Carnahan respond to the ideas presented by Stephen Wolf, who advocates for Christian nationalism and promotes white supremacy. They discuss the dangerous ideologies and myths perpetuated by Wolf and his supporters, highlighting the need for critical thinking and awareness of the underlying agendas. The conversation covers topics such as the concept of a new Christendom, the myth of an immigrant nation, the oppression of white people, and the implications of affirmative action. Tim and Dr. Carnahan dismantle these ideas and emphasize the importance of understanding history and working towards a more inclusive and just society. In this part of the conversation, the principal themes revolve around critical race theory, multiculturalism, corruption, and immigration. The speakers discuss how critical race theory helps explain the persistence of systemic racism and the covert ways in which supremacist systems are maintained. They also address the misconception that policies benefiting non-whites are inherently bad for whites, highlighting the importance of understanding historical context. The conversation delves into the impact of multiculturalism on social trust and the common good, with differing perspectives on its effects. The speakers also touch on corruption, nepotism, and the role of immigration in shaping societal institutions. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Kevin discuss the arguments made by Stephen Wolfe in his speech. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 13:10 Stephen Wolf and New Christendom Press 33:00 White People as Their Own In-Group's Out-Group 41:20 Effects of Historical Injustices and Affirmative Action 56:36 Challenging Misconceptions about Policies Benefiting Non-Whites 01:09:49 Examining Corruption and Nepotism 01:16:53 The Impact of Immigration on Societal Institutions 01:30:36 The Contradictions in Wolfe's Use of Bible Verses 02:07:11 The Incoherence of Stephen Wolfe's Arguments 02:35:44 Resisting and Offering a Better Alternative Kevin on TikTok Kevin's Website Kevin's Amazon Author Page ______________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

288. TNE TALKS: I Can Fix This (And Other Lies I Told Myself) with Kristina Kuzmic
Summary Kristina Kuzmich sits down with Tim to share her journey from trauma and divorce to viral success and the struggles of parenting a child with mental health issues. She discusses her faith, the impact of her upbringing, and the challenges she faced in finding her purpose and identity. Takeaways Kristina's journey from trauma and divorce to viral success and the struggles of parenting a child with mental health issues. The impact of Kristina's faith and upbringing on her identity and the challenges she faced in finding her purpose. Resilience, vulnerability, and the pursuit of hope in the face of adversity. The importance of self-compassion and healing in the face of parenting a child with mental health struggles. The impact of family dynamics and the need for validation and support in navigating the challenges of mental health. The intersection of faith and mental health, addressing the stigma and the importance of self-discovery and healing. The significance of providing tools and coping skills to children struggling with mental health, and the role of self-compassion in parenting. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Viral Success 03:17 Discovering Comedy as a Coping Mechanism 05:48 Influence of Pentecostal Faith and Church Community 08:01 Questioning Faith and Beliefs 11:43 Impact of Faith Community on Personal Struggles 14:04 Finding Purpose Through Volunteering 16:17 Parenting and Mental Health Struggles 23:57 Navigating Parenting and Mental Health Challenges 26:28 The Intersection of Faith and Mental Health 32:02 Support and Validation in Family Dynamics 44:49 Self-Compassion and Healing in Parenting ______________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

287. TNE RECAPS: The GOP Hates Kamala Harris
Summary In this episode, Tim and April recap the recent RNC and discuss the speeches given by Hulk Hogan, Franklin Graham, and Kid Rock. They analyze the rhetoric used and the narratives being reinforced, particularly in the context of Christian nationalism. They also touch on the lack of policy discussion during the RNC and the focus on personality rather than platform. The conversation highlights the importance of questioning and challenging these narratives and ideologies. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the racist and sexist attacks against Vice President Kamala Harris and the implications of Christian nationalism. They also explore the potential impact of Harris as the Democratic nominee and the energized response from the Democratic base. The conversation highlights the deep-rooted racism and misogyny within certain political circles and the need for a more inclusive and progressive approach to politics. Takeaways The RNC focused on personality rather than platform, with speeches by Hulk Hogan, Franklin Graham, and Kid Rock reinforcing narratives of Christian nationalism. The lack of policy discussion during the RNC raises questions about the direction and priorities of the Republican Party. The rhetoric used by Franklin Graham and others highlights the comfort with authoritarian social control and the desire for a strong leader in Christian nationalist circles. Questioning and challenging these narratives and ideologies is crucial in promoting a more inclusive and equitable society. Racist and sexist attacks against Vice President Kamala Harris highlight the deep-rooted racism and misogyny within certain political circles. The energized response from the Democratic base to Harris as the Democratic nominee could have a significant impact on the upcoming election. The attacks on Harris and the focus on her personal life and identity reflect the intersection of racism, sexism, and Christian nationalism. The Democratic National Convention and the choice of Harris's running mate will be important factors in shaping the campaign moving forward. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Recap 11:18 The RNC: Personality Over Platform 17:35 The Lack of Policy Discussion at the RNC 24:14 The Rhetoric of Christian Nationalism 38:57 Questioning and Challenging Narratives and Ideologies 43:30 Uncovering the Deep-Rooted Prejudices 52:16 The Impact of Kamala Harris as the Democratic Nominee 56:57 The Intersection of Racism, Sexism, and Christian Nationalism 01:08:18 Shaping the Campaign: The Democratic National Convention and the Choice of Harris's Running Mate ______________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

286. TNE RESPONDS: No, the Bible is not inerrant...
Summary In this episode, Tim responds to a video from an Instagram channel called Leading Second that asserts the belief that if you don't believe the Bible is true, you have no place in leadership. Tim unpacks the loaded statement and explores the concept of a biblical worldview. He challenges the idea of the Bible being infallible and examines the flawed logic behind it. Tim also discusses the different portrayals of God in the Bible and the need for interpretation and contextual understanding. Takeaways The belief that if you don't believe the Bible is true, you have no place in leadership is a loaded statement that lacks nuance and ignores different interpretations of the Bible. A biblical worldview is often defined by specific verses that align with conservative political views, rather than a comprehensive understanding of the entire Bible. The idea of the Bible being infallible is based on circular reasoning and ignores the historical context and authorship of the texts. The Bible does not present a univocal portrayal of God, and different passages can contradict each other. Interpretation and contextual understanding are necessary. Examining the evidence and contradictions in the Bible can lead to a more nuanced and intellectually honest understanding of its teachings. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 04:37 Challenging the Notion of Bible Truth and Leadership 11:52 The Nuances of a Biblical Worldview 18:12 The Flawed Logic of Biblical Infallibility 21:04 Interpreting the Portrayals of God in the Bible 24:53 The Importance of Contextual Understanding in Bible Interpretation ______________ Special thanks to Janice Lagata for Helping Me Edit The Script https://janicelagata.com/ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

285. TNE TALKS: Why IVF is pro life
Summary In this episode, Tim interviews Dr. Jennifer Bird and Dr. Michael West to discuss the topic of in vitro fertilization (IVF). They address the misconceptions and propaganda surrounding IVF, particularly in right-wing fundamentalist spaces. Takeaways Life does not begin at conception but rather at around 14 days when individuation occurs. Understanding the biological facts is crucial in debunking the myth that life begins at conception. IVF is a pro-life procedure that helps individuals and couples who are unable to conceive have children. Legislation that restricts or bans IVF infringes on reproductive freedom and ignores scientific and ethical considerations. The theological and ethical aspects of reproductive rights, including abortion and IVF, are complex and require thoughtful consideration. Biblical perspectives on these topics vary, and it is important to engage in dialogue and critical examination of the texts. Women's autonomy and well-being should be central to discussions on reproductive health and technology. Education and informed decision-making are crucial in navigating the complexities of reproductive rights. The rise of Christian nationalism poses challenges to these discussions and requires a reevaluation of religious and ethical values. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:42 The Importance of Understanding IVF 11:18 When Does Life Begin? 18:12 Exploring IVF: Procedure and Purpose 25:12 The Reality of Early Embryo Death 30:45 The Biological Facts of IVF 35:29 The Pro-Life Nature of IVF 36:18 Misinformation and Reproductive Freedom 37:43 Conclusion 38:39 Exploring the Bible's Stance on Abortion 41:27 Unpacking the Concept of the Image of God 44:24 The Mythical Nature of Biblical Descriptions 48:08 Discrepancies in Defining Viability 51:58 Considering Women's Autonomy in Reproductive Health Dr. Jennifer Bird's Website: https://www.jennifergracebird.com/ Dr. Michael D. West's World Stem Cell Summit Page: https://worldstemcellsummit.com/michael-west/ Embryo Statment: https://www.wildolivebibleandculture.org/ivf ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

284. TNE RECAPS: The Republican National Convention is a DISASTER
ESummary In this episode, Tim and April discuss the aftermath of the assassination attempt on former President Trump and the Republican National Convention (RNC). They address the use of profanity, the shock and numbness they felt, and the conspiracy theories surrounding the event. They also analyze the rhetoric used by Republicans during the RNC, including claims that Democrats want to take away people's homes and cars and limit their dreams. They highlight the importance of accountability and avoiding dehumanization in political discourse. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the reactions and rhetoric surrounding the recent assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. They highlight the hypocrisy and lack of empathy displayed by some individuals, as well as the dangerous beliefs held by Christian nationalists. The conversation also touches on the rift between Trump and Christian nationalists, the role of women in the RNC, and the misuse of biblical passages to support political agendas. Despite the challenges, Tim and April encourage listeners to stay engaged, find joy, and continue working towards a more inclusive society. Takeaways The assassination attempt on former President Trump and the subsequent conspiracy theories have sparked intense discussions and debates. The Republican National Convention (RNC) featured rhetoric that portrayed Democrats as a threat to democracy and claimed that they want to limit people's dreams and take away their homes and cars. It is important to hold politicians accountable for their words and actions, while also avoiding dehumanization and promoting unity. Political discourse should focus on substance and avoid personal attacks or harmful language. Conspiracy theories and misinformation can fuel division and hinder productive conversations. The reactions and rhetoric surrounding the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump highlight the hypocrisy and lack of empathy displayed by some individuals. Biblical passages are often misused to support political agendas, such as claiming that Trump is God's chosen one. Despite the challenges, it is important to stay engaged, find joy, and continue working towards a more inclusive society. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:10 The Aftermath of the Assassination Attempt on Trump 26:51 Analyzing the Rhetoric of the Republican National Convention 45:22 Accountability and Unity in Political Discourse 46:14 Hypocrisy and Lack of Empathy 53:08 The Dangerous Beliefs of Christian Nationalists 01:10:44 Misuse of Biblical Passages 01:19:12 Intolerance Towards Women in the RNC 01:25:08 The Rift Between Trump and Christian Nationalists 01:31:47 Staying Engaged and Finding Joy ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

283. TNE RESPONDS: Donald Trump Almost Assassinated - How are Christians to Respond? (NOT LIKE THIS)
Summary In this episode, Tim responds to the assassination attempt on former President Trump and explores the implications and reactions surrounding the event. He discusses the need for non-violence and the value of non-dehumanization, condemning the violence while also addressing the dangers of conspiratorial thinking and extreme rhetoric. Tim highlights the gun violence problem in America and calls for gun reform. He also critiques theological takes that glorify or justify the assassination attempt and examines the threat of Trumpism and Christian nationalism to democracy. Tim emphasizes the importance of promoting human flourishing and denounces dehumanization in all its forms. Takeaways Violence is deplorable and only breeds more violence. Non-violence and non-dehumanization are core values that should be upheld. America has a gun violence problem and needs serious gun reform to address it. Extreme rhetoric and conspiratorial thinking can be dangerous and contribute to a divisive and polarized society. Trumpism and Christian nationalism pose a threat to democracy and the well-being of marginalized communities. Promoting human flourishing and denouncing dehumanization are essential for a more just and inclusive society. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage 05:28 Condemning Violence and Upholding Non-Violence 10:12 Addressing the Gun Violence Problem in America 18:13 Critiquing Theological Takes on the Assassination Attempt 23:20 The Threat of Trumpism and Christian Nationalism to Democracy 36:57 Promoting Human Flourishing and Denouncing Dehumanization ______________ Special thanks to Janice Lagata for Helping Me Edit The Script https://janicelagata.com/ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TNE PAUSE: I Postponed this Episode
In this episode, Tim provides an update on recent events and shares some personal updates. He discusses the violence that occurred at a rally and condemns it, emphasizing the importance of nonviolence and love for all. Tim gives a personal update that will affect the future of TNE ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

282. TNE RECAPS: Trump is calling the shots for project 2025 AND the GOP agenda
Summary In this episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including viral videos, vacation experiences, Airbnb camera issues, and their Fourth of July celebrations. They also touch on the recent controversies surrounding Robert Morris and the GOP's updated policy platform. Additionally, they provide an overview of Project 2025, a conservative plan for the future, and highlight the concerning statements made by Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation. The conversation explores the GOP party platform and its alignment with Project Amplify. The platform includes statements on immigration, border security, energy production, military strength, election security, and social issues. Notably, the platform does not mention abortion or gay marriage, causing tension within the right-wing Christian nationalist community. The conversation also highlights the use of dog whistles and racist rhetoric in the platform's language. The hosts debunk claims about crime rates, city safety, and critical race theory. They emphasize the importance of accurate historical education and the need for comprehensive immigration reform. In this conversation, Tim and April review the GOP's policy platform and discuss the principal themes that emerge. They highlight key points such as immigration, crypto and AI, education, religious liberty, and abortion. Project 25 PDF: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf Takeaways The power of viral videos and their impact on popular culture The importance of privacy and security when using services like Airbnb The need for critical thinking and discernment when consuming media The influence of religious beliefs on political ideologies The potential consequences of consolidating power and eroding checks and balances The GOP party platform includes statements on immigration, border security, energy production, military strength, election security, and social issues. The platform does not mention abortion or gay marriage, causing tension within the right-wing Christian nationalist community. The platform uses dog whistles and racist rhetoric, particularly in its language about immigration and crime. Claims about crime rates, city safety, and critical race theory are debunked. Accurate historical education and comprehensive immigration reform are highlighted as important issues. The GOP's policy platform includes controversial stances on immigration, crypto, AI, education, religious liberty, and abortion. Chapters 02:23 Vacation Stories and Airbnb Camera Issues 13:45 Controversies Surrounding Robert Morris 30:27 The Concerning Statements of Kevin Roberts 45:28 Tension within the Right-Wing Christian Nationalist Community 01:09:42 The Importance of Accurate Historical Education and Comprehensive Immigration Reform 01:21:13 Crypto and AI in the GOP Platform 01:28:45 Religious Liberty and the Fight Against Anti-Christian Bias 01:43:03 GOP's Stance on Abortion and Support for IVF 01:56:11 Conclusion and Call to Action ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

281. TNE RESPONDS: John MacArthur Pretends He's a Mental Health Expert and Fails MISERABLY
Summary In this conversation, Tim and Dr. Laura Anderson respond to a video by Allie Stuckey and John MacArthur on mental health. They discuss the topics of medication, the brain and mind connection, and the role of therapy in treating mental health issues. They also address the misconception that medication cannot fix the mind and the importance of a holistic approach to mental health. The conversation highlights the need for accurate information and research in discussions on mental health. In this conversation, Tim and Dr. Laura Anderson discuss John MacArthur's views on mental health and the role of spirituality in addressing mental health issues. They critique MacArthur's claims that chemical imbalances in the brain are a lie and that mental health problems can be solved by turning to Christ instead of medication. Dr. Anderson explains the current understanding of trauma and the importance of a holistic approach to mental health. They also discuss the harmful effects of fundamentalist beliefs and the need for a more compassionate and evidence-based approach to mental health. Takeaways The brain and mind are separate but inseparable, and they work together in mental health. Medication can be an effective tool in treating mental health issues, but it should be part of a holistic approach that includes therapy, lifestyle changes, and coping skills. There is a need for accurate information and research in discussions on mental health. The conversation highlights the importance of addressing mental health issues with compassion and understanding. John MacArthur's claim that chemical imbalances in the brain are a lie is not supported by current research. Mental health issues are complex and can be influenced by a variety of factors, including genetics, environment, and traumatic experiences. A holistic approach to mental health, including therapy, medication, and support systems, is often necessary for effective treatment. Fundamentalist beliefs can be harmful and may contribute to stigma and shame surrounding mental health issues. A compassionate and evidence-based approach to mental health is essential for supporting individuals in their journey towards healing and well-being. Chapters 01:03 Background and Credentials 03:20 Taking a Holistic Approach to Mental Health 08:25 The Problematic Views of John MacArthur and Allie Stuckey 10:17 The Brain and Mind Connection 18:06 The Myth of Mental Health 20:27 The Role of Medication in Mental Health 30:18 Debunking the Myth of Chemical Imbalances 44:28 Understanding Trauma and its Effects 56:00 Embracing a Non-Resistant Approach to Mental Health Lauren's Website: https://drlauraeanderson.com/ https://www.traumaresolutionandrecovery.com/ ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

280. TNE TALKS: Islamic Teachings and Contemporary Issues with Qasim Rashid
Summary Today’s guest, Qasim Rashid, explores with Tim the impact of 9/11 on the Muslim community, the misrepresentation of Islam in the media, the role of human rights lawyers, the current situation of immigration in America, the impact of climate change on immigration, and the intersection of faith and social justice. Takeaways Qasim Rashid's journey from Pakistan to the US and his work as a human rights lawyer The impact of 9/11 on the Muslim community and the misrepresentation of Islam in the media The role of human rights lawyers in advocating for survivors of domestic and sexual violence, religious freedom, and civil rights The current situation of immigration in America and the impact of climate change on immigration The intersection of faith and social justice, and the ethical considerations driven by faith The influence of white supremacy and the political landscape in the context of social justice and advocacy The life of Prophet Muhammad serves as an example of how to apply faith to contemporary challenges and lead by example. Worship is for self-improvement, while service to humanity is an obligation and responsibility for which individuals will be held accountable. Chapters 00:00 Journey of a Human Rights Lawyer 07:15 Impact of 9/11 and Media Misrepresentation 10:09 Advocacy and Intersection of Faith 22:27 Ethical Considerations and Political Landscape 59:16 Leading with Compassion and Justice Qasim's Substack: qasimrashid.substack.com Qasim's Linktree ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

279.TNE RECAPS: Everyone Has Lost Their Minds...Especially Candace Owens
Summary In this episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including their personal experiences, popular TV shows, the 4th of July, and the rise of Christian nationalism. They react to a trailer for the movie 'God's Not Dead 5' and highlight the propaganda and misinformation present in the film. They also touch on the dangers of Christian nationalism and its impact on democracy. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the dangers of Christian nationalism and the conflation of allegiance to Jesus and allegiance to empire. They highlight the cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics that many Christian nationalists engage in to maintain their beliefs. They also address the issue of authoritarianism and the false equivalence between progressive and conservative agendas. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the need for critical thinking and the importance of calling out propaganda and misinformation. Takeaways The conversation covers a range of topics, from personal experiences to popular TV shows and the 4th of July. The hosts discuss the rise of Christian nationalism and its dangers to democracy. They react to the trailer for 'God's Not Dead 5' and highlight the propaganda and misinformation present in the film. The hosts emphasize the importance of critical thinking and questioning beliefs, rather than blindly accepting dogma. Christian nationalism often involves a conflation of allegiance to Jesus and allegiance to empire, leading to a distorted view of faith and politics. Many Christian nationalists engage in cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics to maintain their beliefs, often denying or ignoring the harmful aspects of their ideology. Authoritarianism is not exclusive to any political ideology, but it is important to recognize the power dynamics and propaganda tactics used by different groups. Critical thinking and the ability to recognize and challenge propaganda and misinformation are crucial in navigating political and religious discourse. It is important to call out and challenge harmful beliefs and actions, even within one's own religious or political community. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Recap 16:29 Reacting to Personal Experiences and Popular TV Shows 36:09 Reacting to the 'God's Not Dead 5' Trailer 40:03 Promoting Critical Thinking and Questioning Beliefs 44:32 Introduction and Personal Experiences 51:23 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism 58:01 The Conflation of Allegiance to Jesus and Allegiance to Empire 01:09:19 Addressing Authoritarianism and False Equivalence 01:14:05 The Importance of Critical Thinking and Challenging Propaganda 01:25:24 Calling Out Harmful Beliefs and Actions Episode's Mentioned: 269. Harrison Butker's Speech is Worse than You Think ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

278. TNE RESPONDS: Democracy is in Deep SH*T
Summary In this episode, Tim discusses the pressing issues surrounding the 2024 election and the rise of Christian nationalism. He highlights the concerns about Joe Biden's performance in the first presidential debate and the implications for American democracy. Tim also delves into the dangers of Project 2025 and the efforts to erode democracy and impose Christian nationalist values. He emphasizes the need for awareness, activism, and engagement to counter these threats. Takeaways The first presidential debate raised concerns about Joe Biden's ability to effectively communicate and lead, which could impact the perception of undecided voters. Project 2025, a conservative initiative, aims to flood the government with MAGA appointees and enact a Christian nationalist agenda, eroding democracy and civil rights. The Supreme Court ruling that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution for official acts has significant implications for the balance of power and the potential abuse of authority. The rise of Christian nationalism poses a threat to marginalized communities and civil liberties, and it is crucial to raise awareness, engage in activism, and vote to protect democracy and human rights. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 02:27 The Concerns Surrounding Joe Biden's Performance 09:23 The Dangers of Project 2025 15:11 The Implications of the Supreme Court Ruling 29:24 The Need for Awareness and Activism ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

277. TNE TALKS: The Holy Spirit? Or "Just the Drums"? (Sarah Lane Ritchie & You Have Permission)
ESummary In this conversation, Dan Koch and Sarah Lane Ritchie discuss the challenges and complexities of worship music in evangelical and mainline churches. They explore the role of music in worship and the potential for manipulation and harm. Takeaways Music can be a powerful tool in worship, but it can also be used to manipulate and harm individuals. The assumption that if something is God, it cannot be described or understood is a dualistic perspective that limits our understanding of the divine. Music can be seen as a spiritual technology that helps individuals connect with the divine and create meaningful experiences. The conflation of music with God can lead to harmful beliefs and practices, particularly in evangelical contexts. The cultural reaction against evangelical worship music is often rooted in the harm caused by these practices, but it is important to recognize that music can have different effects on individuals. Worship music plays a significant role in both evangelical and mainline churches, but it can also be a source of tension and trauma for many individuals. There is a need for intentional curation of worship experiences to ensure they are emotionally and cognitively engaging, while also avoiding manipulation and harm. Embodied community is essential for a fulfilling worship experience, as digital communities cannot fully replace the benefits of in-person connection. Finding a balance between the positive and negative aspects of religious traditions is a challenge, but it is possible to navigate a path that allows for personal growth and flourishing. Worship music has the potential to cultivate a dispositional openness to what is both communal and divine, providing a sense of belonging and connection to something greater than oneself. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Self-Description 03:22 Exploring the Role of Music in Worship 10:40 The Harm of Conflating Music with God 25:09 The Cultural Reaction Against Evangelical Worship Music 37:27 The Cognitive and Emotional Challenges of Worship Music 41:39 The Perception of Modern Evangelical Worship 46:25 Religion as Nuclear Fission: The Power and Potential Dangers 59:39 The Dispositional Openness Cultivated by Worship Music 01:09:29 Navigating the Complexities of Faith and Tradition You Have Permission Podcast Sarah's Faculty Page Sarah's Twitter _________________________________________________ if you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

276. TNE RECAPS: Christian Nationalism invades Louisiana Classrooms
Summary In this episode, Tim and April discuss various aspects of Christian culture, including tattoos, the recent presidential debate, and a church selling plots of land in heaven. They are joined by Andrew Whitehead to explore the rise of Christian nationalism and its impact on issues like abortion. They highlight the increase in infant mortality rates in Texas after the abortion ban and critique the extreme views of some pro-life activists. The discussion covers the complexities within the pro-life movement, emphasizing the need for a nuanced understanding of reproductive rights, including access to healthcare, economic support, and comprehensive sex education. They also critique pro-life groups and politicians who fail to support policies that genuinely help mothers and children. The conversation then shifts to Christian nationalism's influence on American society, particularly the display of the Ten Commandments in public schools, exploring the motivations behind this push and the need for a more inclusive and compassionate understanding of patriotism and democratic responsibilities. Takeaways The rise of Christian nationalism has had a significant impact on issues like abortion, with some activists pushing for extreme measures and equating abortion to murder. The recent abortion ban in Texas has led to an increase in infant mortality rates and birth defects, highlighting the unintended consequences of restrictive abortion laws. There is a lack of compassion and nuance within the pro-life movement, with some activists failing to consider the real-life implications of their beliefs on women and families. The pro-life movement needs to address the complexities of reproductive rights and focus on supporting women and families beyond just advocating for the end of abortion. The rise of Christian nationalism and its influence on political discourse is a concerning trend that requires greater attention and understanding. Abortion is a complex issue that requires a nuanced understanding and consideration of various factors, including access to healthcare, economic support, and comprehensive sex education. Pro-life groups and politicians should advocate for policies that support mothers and children, such as affordable childcare, healthcare, and livable wages. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Fun Banter 03:01 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Abortion 09:29 Unintended Consequences: The Rise in Infant Mortality Rates in Texas 13:14 Lack of Compassion and Nuance in the Pro-Life Movement 25:19 The Rise of Christian Nationalism and its Influence on Politics 37:51 Understanding Abortion and the Need for Nuance 48:02 The Influence of Christian Nationalism 52:44 The Ten Commandments in Public Schools and Christian Nationalism 58:25 Redefining Patriotism: Justice, Equality, and Compassion 01:05:38 The Responsibility of Citizens in a Democratic Society 01:13:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

275. TNE RESPONDS: Gateway Church’s Statement on Robert Morris Falls Short
Summary In this episode, Tim and April respond to the elder statement made by Gateway Church regarding the allegations against their lead pastor, Robert Morris. They express disappointment with the statement and discuss the lack of accountability and transparency. They highlight the need for Gateway Church to take concrete actions to address the harm caused and support the survivors. Tim and April also criticize the church's focus on the show and the institution rather than the well-being of the victims. They call for a halt in services, a thorough investigation, and financial reparations for the survivors. The conversation discusses the response of Gateway Church to the allegations against their former lead pastor, Robert Morris, who was accused of molesting a 12-year-old girl. The hosts criticize the church's lack of accountability and deflection of responsibility. They highlight the problematic mindset of some evangelical churches that prioritize success and money over addressing systemic issues and protecting victims. The conversation also touches on the comparison between leaving a church due to disappointment and leaving a church due to abuse, as well as the interconnectedness of charismatic leaders and the need for systemic change. Takeaways Gateway Church's elder statement regarding the allegations against Robert Morris lacked accountability and transparency. Concrete actions, such as halting services and conducting a thorough investigation, are necessary to address the harm caused and support the survivors. The focus on the show and the institution rather than the well-being of the victims is problematic. Financial reparations should be considered to acknowledge the decades of harm and trauma experienced by the survivors. Some evangelical churches prioritize success and money over addressing systemic issues and protecting victims. The response of Gateway Church to the allegations against Robert Morris lacked accountability and deflected responsibility. Leaving a church due to disappointment is not the same as leaving a church due to abuse. Charismatic leaders are often interconnected and need to be held accountable for their actions. Systemic change is necessary to address the issues within evangelical culture. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:16 Allegations against Robert Morris 08:16 Lack of Accountability and Transparency 12:07 The Resignation of Robert Morris 13:36 Pattern of Similar Incidents 20:11 Frustration with the Church's Handling 21:20 Call for Financial Reparations 21:45 The Problematic Response of Gateway Church 22:42 The Prioritization of Success and Money in Evangelical Culture 23:24 Leaving Church: Disappointment vs. Abuse 25:17 The Interconnectedness of Charismatic Leaders 27:06 The Need for Systemic Change in Evangelical Culture Gateway's Elder Response Video Read the Initial Article on Robert Morris Robert's Full Response Video ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

274. TNE TALKS: Fighting Christian Nationalism with Rep James Talarico
Summary In this conversation, Representative James Talarico and Tim Whitaker discuss topics such as Christian nationalism, faith, and navigating political differences. Talarico shares his background growing up in a conservative Christian home but attending a church that emphasized love for all people. He explains how his faith has informed his political views and motivated him to run for office. The conversation also touches on the importance of maintaining a spiritual foundation in politics, finding common ground with ideological opponents, and the challenges of addressing issues like Christian nationalism. In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and James Talarico discuss the importance of engaging in conversations to advocate for marginalized communities, the need for affordable healthcare and paid family leave, the role of right-wing media in spreading misinformation and fear, the threat of Christian nationalism, and the actions individuals can take to make a difference. Takeaways Growing up in a conservative Christian home, Representative James Talarico attended a church that emphasized love for all people, regardless of race, class, gender, or sexual orientation. Talarico's faith has informed his political views and motivated him to run for office, with a focus on dismantling unjust systems and advocating for the well-being of all constituents. Maintaining a spiritual foundation is crucial in navigating the challenges of politics, helping to control emotions and channel anger into productive and loving actions. Finding common ground with ideological opponents is possible through personal connections and shared values, even while maintaining clear policy differences. Addressing issues like Christian nationalism requires resisting harmful ideas and systems while avoiding personal attacks, focusing on the moral contrast and expanding the circle of concern for all people. Engaging in conversations and advocating for marginalized communities is crucial, as it relieves the burden on those directly affected by discriminatory policies. Affordable healthcare and paid family leave are not radical ideas, but necessary measures to support families and ensure their well-being. Right-wing media plays a significant role in spreading misinformation and fear, often prioritizing profit over truth. Christian nationalism poses a threat to democracy and the values of equality and justice. Individuals can make a difference by staying informed, supporting organizations working for change, and actively participating in the democratic process. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 09:29 Understanding Christian Nationalism 16:08 The Role of Faith in Politics 24:27 Addressing Christian Nationalism and Expanding the Circle of Concern 26:51 Affordable Healthcare and Paid Family Leave 29:33 Finding Common Ground 33:11 The Influence of Right-Wing Media 36:06 The Threat of Christian Nationalism 45:57 Taking Action for Change Jame's Website James on Twitter James on TikTok if you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

273. TNE RECAPS: Gateway Church Covers Up the Truth
Summary The conversation discusses the technical difficulties faced before the recording and the humorous incidents that occurred. It then delves into the scandal surrounding Robert Morris and Gateway Church, where allegations of sexual abuse have been made against Morris. The conversation highlights the contradictory statements made by Gateway Church and the need for a thorough investigation. It also addresses the toxic culture within evangelical churches, the impact of purity culture, and the importance of holding leaders accountable. Cindy, the alleged victim, releases a statement expressing her disappointment in the church's response and calling for justice and reform. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the hypocrisy and lack of accountability within certain religious circles, particularly in relation to the handling of sexual abuse allegations. They highlight the case of Robert Morris, a megachurch pastor who platformed Mark Driscoll, despite Driscoll's history of abusive behavior. They also criticize the selective outrage and silence of certain evangelical influencers, such as Meg Basham and Allie Stuckey, who condemn Morris but defend John MacArthur, despite his involvement in covering up child abuse within his own church. The conversation emphasizes the need for accountability and the dismantling of toxic systems within religious institutions. Takeaways Technical difficulties can occur before a recording, but it is important to persevere and find solutions. The scandal surrounding Robert Morris and Gateway Church highlights the need for thorough investigations and accountability within religious institutions. Toxic culture and purity culture within evangelical churches contribute to the protection of abusive leaders and the blaming of victims. Victims of abuse should be supported and encouraged to come forward, and justice and reform should be pursued. The statements made by Gateway Church and the alleged victim, Cindy, reveal the need for transparency and genuine repentance. There is a lack of accountability and hypocrisy within certain religious circles when it comes to handling sexual abuse allegations. Some religious leaders and influencers selectively condemn certain individuals while defending others, based on their theological alignment or personal biases. The focus should be on protecting victims and holding abusers accountable, rather than protecting the reputation of religious institutions. Toxic systems within religious institutions need to be dismantled in order to prioritize the well-being and safety of individuals. Accountability and transparency are essential in creating a healthy and safe environment within religious communities. Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

272. TNE RESPONDS: Robert Morris, Molestation Allegations, and Evangelical Corruption
ESummary In this episode, Tim discusses the recent allegations against Robert Morris, the lead pastor of Gateway Church, who admitted to engaging in inappropriate sexual behavior with a 12-year-old girl when he was in his early 20s. Tim criticizes the response from Gateway Church and highlights the systemic issues within the evangelical church that enable and protect abusive pastors. He also addresses the harmful narratives propagated by conservative media about the supposed dangers of drag queen story hour, while ignoring the real threat of sexual abuse within churches. Tim calls for accountability and a dismantling of the toxic structures within American evangelicalism. Takeaways The allegations against Robert Morris are serious and have not been disputed by Gateway Church or Morris himself. The response from Gateway Church and the language used in their statement minimizes the gravity of Morris' actions and prioritizes his healing journey over the survivor's experience. The American evangelical church operates as a corporate entity focused on growth and spectacle, often prioritizing the protection of the organization over the well-being of survivors. The evangelical church needs to address the systemic issues that enable and protect abusive pastors rather than blaming individuals or dismissing the problem. Conservative media's focus on supposed threats outside of the church, like drag queen story hour, distracts from the real issue of sexual abuse within churches. The current structures of American evangelicalism need to be dismantled in order to restore the witness of Christianity and prioritize truth, character, and integrity. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Content Warning 00:41 Unpacking the Allegations Against Robert Morris 10:27 The Toxicity of American Evangelicalism 24:53 The Need for Church Accountability 26:19 Dismantling the Structures of Evangelicalism Read the Article on Robert Morris Robert's Full Response Video ______________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

271. TNE TALKS: Navigating Faith in Modern and Postmodern Worlds // Myron Penner, PhD
ESummary The conversation with Myron Penner this week explores the transition from pre-modern to modern to postmodern eras, focusing on the relationship between faith, reason, and truth. It delves into the intellectual history of these movements, the impact of modernity on theology, and the deconstruction of texts in the postmodern context. Takeaways The transition from pre-modern to modern to postmodern eras has had a significant impact on the relationship between faith, reason, and truth. The conversation explores the intellectual history of these movements, shedding light on the impact of modernity on theology and the deconstruction of texts in the postmodern context. The discussion provides insights into the interpretation of texts, the correspondence theory of truth, and the philosophical frameworks of modernity and postmodernity. Interpreting biblical texts involves considering historical context, author status, and social factors, challenging the traditional focus on authorial intent. The conversation highlights the tension between modernist and postmodernist perspectives in interpreting Christian beliefs, emphasizing the need for intellectual humility and open dialogue. The evolution of Christian beliefs and the dynamic nature of theological interpretations are explored, challenging the notion of a static, monolithic view of historic orthodox Christianity. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Faith, Reason, and Truth 06:53 The Impact of Modernity on Theology and Truth 29:42 Navigating the Complexity of Biblical Interpretation 53:36 The Interplay of Modernist and Postmodernist Perspectives in Christian Beliefs 58:07 The Evolution and Dynamic Nature of Christian Beliefs If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

270. TNE RECAPS: Holy Villains
Summary In this conversation, Tim and Janice discuss various topics, including the conviction of Donald Trump, the misuse of religious language in politics, and the role of evangelical leaders. They also touch on the hypocrisy of some evangelical leaders and the need for skepticism and critical thinking. The conversation highlights the manipulation of religious beliefs for political gain and the importance of understanding the historical context of political decisions. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Janice discuss the themes of white evangelicalism, the failure of the democratic process, and the hypocrisy of Trump's supporters. They explore the idea that America is in decline and that evangelicalism has failed the test of staying true to its values. They also touch on the conviction of Hunter Biden and the response from both sides of the political spectrum. In this final part of the conversation, Tim discusses the use of memes and images to attack political opponents, particularly in the context of Hunter Biden and Donald Trump. He highlights the hypocrisy of Trump supporters who find such memes acceptable when they target Trump, but not when they target Hunter Biden. Tim also criticizes the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) for its regressive views on women's roles and IVF, and expresses his frustration with the continued platforming of Carl Lentz. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the love and acceptance of queer neighbors, and the control and ownership mentality of some evangelical Christians. Takeaways The conviction of Donald Trump is discussed, with the hosts highlighting the manipulation of religious language in politics and the misuse of biblical values. The conversation emphasizes the need for skepticism and critical thinking when evaluating the actions and statements of evangelical leaders. The hosts reflect on the historical context of political decisions and the importance of understanding the impact of past events on current issues. The conversation raises questions about the sincerity of some evangelical leaders and their motivations for aligning with political figures. White evangelicalism has failed to stay true to its values and has embraced hypocrisy. America is in decline and is facing serious challenges. The conviction of Hunter Biden highlights the importance of respecting the judicial process. The political divide in America is deepening, with both sides often failing to see the flaws in their own arguments. The use of memes and images to attack political opponents is hypocritical and lacks logical consistency. The Southern Baptist Convention's focus on regressive views on women's roles and opposition to IVF is misguided and out of touch. The continued platforming of Carl Lentz raises questions about accountability and genuine repentance. Love and acceptance of queer neighbors should be a fundamental aspect of Christian faith. The control and ownership mentality of some evangelical Christians hinders progress and understanding. Janice's Link Tree Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

269. TNE RESPONDS: Harrison Butker’s Speech is Worse than You Think
Summary In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim Gretzky discuss various topics related to Catholicism and the role of priests and bishops. They touch on issues such as the traditional Latin mass, Catholic teachings on abortion and IVF, and the role of priests in parish communities. They also discuss the COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on the Catholic Church. Throughout the conversation, they highlight the importance of understanding the complexities of Catholicism and avoiding generalizations or false judgments. In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim analyze a speech given by NFL player Harrison Butker at Benedictine College. They discuss the recurring theme of longing for a mythological past and the connection between Christian nationalism and the desire to return to a privileged time. They also explore the traditional Catholic view of marriage and the importance of adhering to Catholic traditions. Father Jim provides insights into the Catholic perspective on issues such as birth control and the role of men in society. They highlight the need for nuance and understanding in discussions about faith and the dangers of fundamentalism. Takeaways Understanding the complexities of Catholicism is important to avoid generalizations or false judgments. The role of priests and bishops in the Catholic Church is multifaceted and requires a deep understanding of theology and pastoral care. The COVID-19 pandemic presented challenges for the Catholic Church, but decisions made by bishops and priests were often based on public health guidelines and the safety of parishioners. Recognizing the authority of bishops and priests is essential in understanding the role they play in leading the Church and administering the sacraments. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 02:03 Exploring the Complexities of Catholicism 10:23 The Role of Priests and Bishops in the Catholic Church 15:07 Understanding Catholic Teachings on Abortion 25:22 The Importance of Charity and Staying in One's Lane 30:27 Avoiding Generalizations and False Judgments 38:29 The Role of Priests and Bishops in Parish Communities 47:00 Reflecting on Past and Present Leadership in the Catholic Church 48:59 Longing for a Mythological Past 52:18 The Traditional Catholic View of Marriage 59:47 God-Centered Pride and Glorifying Him 01:09:22 The Catholic View of Marriage 01:17:32 The Importance of Tradition in Worship 01:25:26 Surrounding Yourself with People Who Sharpen You 01:31:49 The Catholic Position on Birth Control James Martin’s Books: The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything: A Spirituality for Real Life My Life with the Saints In Good Company Greg Boyle’s Books: Tattoos on the Heart Barking to the Choir The Whole Language Greg Boyle’s webpage If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

268.TNE TALKS: Theology Meets AI // Kester Brewin
Kester Brewin author of God Like: A 500-Year History of Artificial Intelligence in Myths, Machines, Monsters joins Tim to talk about how AI is changing how we understand reality and how theology can be used to use new technologies in wise ways. If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Watch this conversation on YouTube - @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

267. TNE RECAPS: Trump. The American Jesus
Summary In this episode, Tim, April, and Andrew discuss Christian nationalism and its impact on various social issues. They explore the definition of Christian nationalism and its desire to see a specific expression of Christianity fused with American civic life. They also examine the association between Christian nationalism and opposition to same-sex marriage, as well as the belief in traditional social arrangements and hierarchies. The conversation highlights the slow liberalization of views on same-sex marriage among those who embrace Christian nationalism. The discussion also touches on the theological challenges faced by Christian nationalists when it comes to accepting queer relationships and the rejection of contraception access by some Republicans. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the themes of white Christian nationalism, the intersection of religion and race, and the dangers of Christian nationalist ideology. They highlight the importance of understanding the motivations and beliefs of Christian nationalists, as well as the potential consequences if their ideology gains more power and influence in the United States. The conversation also touches on the hypocrisy and double standards of conservative pundits and the need for people to stay informed and speak out against Christian nationalism. Takeaways Christian nationalism seeks to fuse a specific expression of Christianity with American civic life and desires to see the government defend and preserve that cultural framework. Those who strongly embrace Christian nationalism are more likely to oppose same-sex marriage and support the right of small business owners to refuse service to gay or lesbian people. While there has been a liberalization of views on same-sex marriage among all Americans, those who embrace Christian nationalism have been slower to change their stance. Christian nationalism's belief in traditional social arrangements and hierarchies poses theological challenges when it comes to accepting queer relationships. Some Republicans' rejection of contraception access aligns with the belief in a rightly ordered society that involves a man and a woman having many children. White Christian nationalism is a dangerous ideology that seeks to maintain white privilege and power in the United States. Christian nationalism is intertwined with white supremacy and seeks to enforce a specific vision of America based on Christian values. Understanding the motivations and beliefs of Christian nationalists is crucial in order to counter their influence and protect marginalized communities. Conservative pundits often engage in hypocrisy and double standards when it comes to supporting political figures and ideologies. It is important for individuals to stay informed about the dangers of Christian nationalism and to speak out against it in order to protect democracy and promote equality. Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

266. TNE RESPONDS: Trump's Verdict Means Nothing
Tim breaks down why for Evangelicals, Trump being a convicted felon will not affect their loyalty for him. If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

265. TNE TALKS: Wisdom from Nana's Porch // Diane Shiffer
Summary In this episode, Tim interviews Diane Schiffer, a popular content creator, about her journey in content creation, her background in evangelicalism, and her experiences with Christian culture and politics. Takeaways Diane's journey from Episcopalian to evangelicalism and her disillusionment with evangelical subculture. The impact of purity culture and evangelical subculture on Diane's personal and family life. The tokenization of individuals in evangelical spaces and the complexities of LGBTQ+ issues within evangelicalism. Observations of the rise of Trump within evangelical spaces and the challenges of being a Democrat in evangelical circles. The disillusionment with evangelical leaders and the impact of Trump's presidency on evangelical spaces. The personal journey of faith and belief, navigating religious subcultures, and the pursuit of empathy and kindness in a divisive world. Chapters 00:00 From Episcopalian to Evangelical: A Journey of Disillusionment 10:24 Deconstructing Evangelicalism and Purity Culture 14:05 The Rise of Trump 40:35 Understanding Christian Nationalism 48:15 Navigating Faith, Belief, and Empathy Follow Diane Shiffer Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

264. TNE RECAPS: Trump Is Guilty
Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Get Tickets to Theology Beer Camp (Promo Code: TNEHOBBIT)) Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

263: TNE RESPONDS: I Spent 24 Hours with Paul and Morgan
Tim was featured on an episode of 24 hours with Paul and Morgan discussing their differences about theology, politics and culture. Was Tim fairly represented? Or were their edits misleading? Join Tim and his wife (Sarah) as they watch it live for the first time and react. Support Our Work Get Tickets to Beer Camp (Promo Code TNEHOBBIT) Watch this podcast on Youtube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

262. TNE TALKS: Christians Living in an Empire of Terror // Shane Claiborne
Watch the Full Interview Here Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Get Tickets to Theology Beer Camp (Promo Code: TNEHOBBIT)) Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

261. TNE RECAPS: Mike Johnson's "Christian" Values
Summary In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April are joined by Sue Wright, a retired school teacher, to discuss various topics in the Christian culture. They touch on Sue's lack of religious trauma, the concept of the rapture, and their plans for Memorial Day weekend. They also discuss the controversy surrounding a speech by Harrison Butker and the lack of charity in the response to it. The hosts then share their thoughts on an upcoming video series featuring Paul and Morgan, a conservative Christian couple, spending 24 hours with people who have different beliefs. In this part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss their plans to watch a video response to Tim's deconstruction journey on YouTube. They also talk about the process of filming the video and the different locations they visited. They then shift the conversation to the topic of Greg Locke, a controversial pastor who has been declared an apostle by his wife and other pastors. They discuss Locke's extreme views and the dangers of Christian nationalism. They also touch on the hypocrisy of politicians like Mike Johnson, who claim to be moral and religious but defend immoral actions. The conversation ends with a discussion about men showing emotions and Matt Walsh's tweet about men crying. Takeaways Sue's lack of religious trauma provides a unique perspective in the conversation The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding a speech by Harrison Butker and the lack of charity in the response to it An upcoming video series featuring Paul and Morgan spending 24 hours with people who have different beliefs sparks interest and curiosity Tim and April plan to watch a video response to Tim's deconstruction journey on YouTube. They discuss the process of filming the video and the different locations they visited. They highlight the extreme views of Greg Locke, a controversial pastor who has been declared an apostle. They discuss the dangers of Christian nationalism and the hypocrisy of politicians like Mike Johnson. They talk about the importance of men being able to show emotions and criticize Matt Walsh's tweet on the topic. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 02:05 Sue's Unique Perspective 03:03 Controversy and Lack of Charity in the Response to Harrison Butker's Speech 14:18 Upcoming Video Series by Paul and Morgan Sparks Interest and Curiosity 38:05 Filming the Video 39:36 Greg Locke: Controversial Pastor 43:58 Debating a Flat Earther 45:25 Greg Locke Declared an Apostle 48:54 Men Showing Emotions 57:04 The Hypocrisy of Politicians 01:00:49 Matt Walsh's Tweet Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Get Tickets to Theology Beer Camp (Promo Code: TNEHOBBIT)) Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

260. TNE RESPONDS: A Church Gives Bad Mental Health Advice
Tim responds to Rich and Dawnchere Wilkerson telling their congregation not to seek therapy that isn't founded in the Bible Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Get Tickets to Theology Beer Camp (Promo Code: TNEHOBBIT)) Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

259. TNE TALKS: Building Bridges with Our Enemies// John Pavlovitz
Summary John Pavlovitz, author of the book, Worth Fighting For: Finding a Faith That Makes a Better Human, discusses his journey from being a conservative evangelical pastor to a more progressive Christian ethos. Tim and John discuss the tensions between personal convictions and pastoral expectations, the challenges of navigating relationships within the church, and the importance of humanizing people in the midst of political differences. Takeaways Many people within conservative evangelical communities feel torn between their convictions and the community they love, making it difficult to navigate their beliefs and relationships. It is important to humanize people and remember that individuals within the Christian nationalist movement are not a monolith. There is diversity of thought and experience within these communities. Dehumanization is a dangerous path that can lead to violence, and it is crucial to maintain empathy and respect for others, even in the midst of political differences. Authentic dialogue, empathy, and compassion are essential in bridging the divide and fostering understanding between different theological and political perspectives. Navigating relationships with people who hold different beliefs requires curiosity, understanding, and respect for their journey. Being a progressive Christian involves the challenge of maintaining relationships while advocating for systemic change. Unity, empathy, and humanizing the conversation are essential for moving forward and creating a more inclusive society. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 06:15 Humanizing People in the Midst of Political Differences 27:34 Navigating Relationships with Different Beliefs Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Get Tickets to Theology Beer Camp Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

258. TNE RECAPS: Harrison Butker Fumbles the Ball
Summary In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics, including their preferences for living in different states, Tim's love for New Jersey, and April's love for Mexican food. They also touch on the concept of a daily live show, a prayer for lactose intolerance, and a prophecy update regarding the rapture. They discuss the ongoing investigation into the death of Micah Miller and the controversy surrounding Lake Point Church's attempt to skew a traffic study. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss a controversial commencement speech given by Harrison Butker, the kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. They analyze Butker's comments about women and their roles in society, as well as his views on Catholicism and Christian nationalism. The hosts critique the speech and highlight the harmful and patriarchal messages it conveys. They also address the hypocrisy of Christian nationalists who claim to be persecuted while advocating for discrimination against marginalized groups. The conversation touches on the broader themes of feminism, cancel culture, and the role of men in society. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:22 Living in Different States: Tim's Love for New Jersey 07:03 The Idea of a Daily Live Show 10:21 Prophecy Update: The Rapture 42:20 Introduction: Harrison Butker's Controversial Speech 45:07 Butker's Views on Cultural Values and Media 47:05 Butker's Critique of Catholicism and Pro-Choice Catholics 51:53 The Role of Women in Butker's Speech 55:41 The Importance of Marriage and Motherhood in Butker's Speech 01:09:25 Absentee Fathers and Violence Rates 01:14:06 Reaction to Butker's Speech: Twitter Responses Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

257. TNE RESPONDS: Alisa Still Doesn't Understand Deconstruction
Summary In this episode, Tim responds to a video by Alisa Childers, a prominent figure in the apologetics space. Tim addresses the claim that the deconstruction movement exists only because of social media and argues that deconstruction is not a unified movement but rather an explosion of individuals with different perspectives. He also challenges the idea that words have objective meaning and explores different interpretations of the Bible. Tim concludes by discussing the concept of truth and the limitations of proving historical events like the resurrection of Jesus. Takeaways Deconstruction is not a unified movement but an explosion with a diverse individuals with different perspectives. Social media has played a significant role in the deconstruction movement by providing a platform for people to share their experiences and access alternative perspectives. Christianity has different metanarratives depending on the particular stream of Christian thought. The concept of truth in Christianity is complex, and the ability to prove historical events like the resurrection is limited. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Conversation and Background on Alisa Childers 02:04 Deconstruction as an Explosion, Not a Unified Movement 05:12 The Influence of Social Media on the Deconstruction Movement 08:37 The Challenge of Objective Meaning in Words 13:02 The Diversity of Interpretations in the Bible 16:32 Different Metanarratives in Christianity Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

256. TNE TALKS: The Church Hurt Me Then it Healed Me // Ryan George
Summary Ryan George grew up in the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church and experienced both abuse and healing within the church. He shares his story of growing up in a conservative and abusive environment, where rules and regulations were enforced to an extreme degree. Ryan's father, a pastor in the IFB network, was later exposed as a serial sexual predator. Ryan reflects on the spiritual and physical abuse he endured, as well as the ways in which the IFB culture justified and perpetuated this abuse. It was through therapy, healthy relationships, and experiencing true love and community that Ryan began to recognize the abuse he had endured and find healing. Ryan George shares his journey of healing and redemption after experiencing spiritual abuse and the harm caused by his father. Despite the pain and trauma, Ryan found healing in the church through authentic relationships and a personal connection with God. He emphasizes the importance of finding safe spaces and supportive communities where individuals can share their hurts and doubts. Ryan's story highlights the power of redefining one's understanding of God and finding healing in unexpected places. Takeaways The IFB culture enforced extreme rules and regulations, leading to spiritual and physical abuse. Through therapy, healthy relationships, and experiencing true love and community, Ryan began to recognize the abuse he had endured and find healing. Authentic relationships and supportive communities in the church can play a crucial role in the healing process. Redefining one's understanding of God and finding a personal connection can lead to healing and transformation. Safe spaces where individuals can share their hurts and doubts are essential for healing and growth. Chapters 00:00 Introduction: Hurt and Healed by the Church 07:37 The Dark Side of the IFB: Serial Sexual Predators 26:59 Introduction and Background 37:07 Navigating the Church After Spiritual Abuse 45:02 Finding Healing and Redemption in the Church Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

255. TNE RECAPS: The Mica Miller Story
ESummary In this episode April and Tim discuss the Mica Miller case. The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding the viral video of the pastor announcing his wife's death during a sermon. They mention Mica's mental health struggles, reports of abuse, and the couple's separation and divorce filings. They explores how the evangelical world broadly addresses allegations of abuse, the toxic positivity within evangelicalism, and the need for a more inclusive and supportive church culture. The hosts emphasize the importance of mental health support and resources for those in abusive relationships. They also discuss the flaws in gun laws and the dangers of overlooking red flags within church leadership. They also discuss which tweet will be awarded "the tweet of the week". Takeaways When discussing sensitive topics like mental health and abuse caution and sensitivity is key. Information in the Mica Miller case is still being released and it's important not to jump to conclusions without waiting for more data. The conversation raises questions about Mica's husbands' behavior and the dynamics of his relationship with his wife. Mica Miller's death highlights the need for mental health support and resources for those in abusive relationships within the church. Toxic positivity within evangelicalism can prevent individuals from seeking help and acknowledging mental health struggles. Gun laws should be more thoughtfully created to prevent individuals in vulnerable mental states from accessing firearms. Church leadership must be held accountable for overlooking red flags and enabling abusive behavior. Contact the National Domestic Violence Line Contact the National Mental Health Crisis Line Pre-Order Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith by April Ajoy Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

254. TNE RESPONDS: Rosaria Butterfield's Dangerous Influence on Conservative Christianity // Matthew Vines
In this episode, Tim sits down with Matthew Vines from The Reformation Project to discuss Rosaria Butterfield's problematic anti LGBTQ+ theology, and her impact on the larger conservative Christian culture. Register for Faith and Politics for the Rest of Us Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

253. TNE TALKS: What I Missed at Exiles In Babylon // Billie Hoard
EIn this episode, Tim sits down with Billie Hoard to discuss her thoughts on Tim's experience at the Exiles in Babylon Conference. Listen to episode 133 of the podcast with Billie Hoard Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

252. TNE RECAPS: Go Home John MacArthur
ESummary In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics including April's super villain chair, their confessions about being involved in multi-level marketing schemes, the recent overturning of the ban on LGBTQ+ clergy in the United Methodist Church, and the student protests in solidarity with the Palestinian people. They also touch on the militarization of the US police force and the need for the evangelical church to repent for its harmful theology. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the controversial statements made by John MacArthur regarding mental health. They highlight the problematic nature of his views and the harm they can cause to individuals struggling with mental health issues. They also critique the dismissive and judgmental attitude towards those who seek medication and treatment for their conditions. The conversation touches on the dehumanization of children and the harmful beliefs about women's roles in the church. Despite these negative perspectives, the hosts also highlight some positive news and victories in the fight for justice and equality. Chapters 00:00 Confessions: Tim and April's MLM Experiences 03:14 United Methodist Church Overturns Ban on LGBTQ+ Clergy 15:04 Student Protests in Solidarity with Palestinians 32:55 Introduction and Background on John MacArthur 36:18 John MacArthur's Controversial Views on Mental Health 44:44 The Dehumanization of Children and Rigid Gender Roles 01:05:06 Positive News and Victories in the Fight for Justice Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

251. TNE RESPONDS: This Might Change the Church Forever Pt. 2 // Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker
Summary Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker, a theologian and professor, is interviewed by Tim. They discuss Dr. Parker's work and the upcoming book by Richard Hayes titled:'The Widening of God's Mercy: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story,' which challenges traditional non-affirming views on sexuality and presents an affirming standpoint. Richard Hayes is an influential New Testament scholar known for his work on the faithfulness of Christ. One of his influential books is The Moral Vision of the New Testament, which includes a chapter on homosexuality. The conversation explores the problematic idea of trying to change the sexual orientation of LGBTQIA+ Christians. It discusses the pressure for LGBTQIA+ individuals to conform to a monolithic identity in order to be accepted by churches. The conversation also highlights the dominance of mostly white men in the field of biblical scholarship and the need for diverse perspectives. The conversation discusses the impact of Hayes' earlier teaching against queer affirming theology and the harm caused by his narrow perspectives. The conversation touches on the need for white men to listen to and learn from queer scholars who have already done extensive biblical scholarship. It emphasizes the importance of not overshadowing or dismissing the work of marginalized voices. Takeaways The field of biblical scholarship needs more diversity and representation Listening to diverse perspectives can help challenge and broaden our understanding of the world Acknowledging and making amends for past harm is an important part of personal growth and repentance. White men should listen to and learn from marginalized voices, particularly queer scholars, who have already done extensive biblical scholarship on queer affirmation. The conversation highlights the need for humility and a willingness to learn and change. The work of white evangelicals should involve fighting against Christian nationalism and working towards justice and equality. We need to critically think about who we invite into our spaces and the perspectives we prioritize. Treating marginalized groups as monolithic is dangerous and perpetuates stereotypes. Living in cognitive dissonance is challenging but can lead to growth and change. There is a need for liberation from hateful rhetoric against LGBTQIA+ individuals within denominations and churches. Flourishing and full participation should be possible for all members of the community. Recognizing and amplifying the work of queer scholars and biblical scholarship is important. Biblical scholarship has a significant impact on shaping Christian culture. Faith should be a catalyst for social justice and dismantling systems of oppression. Follow Rev Dr. Angela N. Parker's work. Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

250. TNE TALKS: The Problem with Criminalizing Addiction // Christina Dent
Summary Christina Dent, author of the book, Curious: A Foster Mom’s Discovery of an Unexpected Solution to Drug Addiction, shares the journey that changed her perspective on drugs and addiction. Ultimately, it led her to start the organization End It For Good. She discusses the importance of understanding the underlying causes of addiction and the need for a more compassionate and evidence-based approach to drug policy. Takeaways Changing deeply ingrained beliefs and challenging the status quo can be difficult but necessary. There are financial incentives that perpetuate the current drug policy system. Faith can play a role in shaping one's perspective on addiction and compassion. A more compassionate and evidence-based approach to drug policy is needed. Legal regulation is crucial to ensure consumer safety and reduce crime related to drug addiction. Accessible healthcare, livable wages, and social infrastructure are essential in supporting individuals with addiction. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 02:31 Changing Perspectives on Drugs and Addiction 08:19 Challenging the Status Quo in Drug Policy 13:16 The Role of Faith in Shaping Perspectives 23:46 The Need for a Compassionate and Evidence-Based Approach 28:45 Approaching Loved Ones with Addiction 31:32 The Ineffectiveness of Arresting Drug Dealers 35:29 Addressing Contaminated Drugs through Legal Regulation 39:36 The Need for Accessible Healthcare and Livable Wages 46:36 Switzerland's Innovative Approaches to Drug Addiction Read Curious by Christina Dent Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

249. TNE RECAPS: Sean Feucht v. Taylor Swift
ESummary In this conversation, Tim and April discuss Taylor Swift's new album and the criticism it has received from some conservative Christians. They address the accusations of blasphemy and witchcraft, as well as the critique of explicit lyrics. They also highlight the hypocrisy of supporting Donald Trump while condemning Swift's music. The conversation reveals the subjective nature of art interpretation and the need for self-reflection within religious communities. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the misconceptions and misunderstandings surrounding the concepts of witchcraft, demons, and Christian nationalism. They critique the views of Sean Feucht, a Christian musician and activist, who uses buzzwords like witches and demons without fully understanding their historical and cultural contexts. They also highlight the financial motivations behind Feucht's activism and his association with other controversial figures like Mark Driscoll and Eric Metaxas. The conversation touches on the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the role of Christian Zionism, as well as the harmful effects of fear-based ideologies and the importance of respecting individual beliefs. Takeaways The criticism of Taylor Swift's album by conservative Christians reveals the subjective nature of art interpretation. Accusations of blasphemy and witchcraft are based on selective reading and misinterpretation of lyrics. The hypocrisy of supporting Donald Trump while condemning Swift's music exposes the double standards within some religious communities. Misunderstandings and misconceptions about witchcraft and demons are prevalent, often fueled by a lack of historical and cultural context. Some Christian activists, like Sean Feucht, use buzzwords without fully understanding their meanings, leading to misrepresentations and fear-based ideologies. Christian nationalism often promotes a narrow and exclusionary view of Christianity, disregarding the diversity of beliefs within the faith. Respecting individual beliefs and avoiding the imposition of one's own beliefs on others is crucial for fostering understanding and dialogue. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Mispronunciations 07:06 Engaging with Different Perspectives on LGBTQ+ Affirmation 27:27 Sean Feucht's Urgent Message and Misguided Critiques 35:26 The Subjectivity of Art Interpretation and the Need for Self-Reflection 45:52 Navigating the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict with Nuance 52:56 Respecting Individual Beliefs and Avoiding Imposition Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

248. TNE RESPONDS: Exiles In Babylon Recap // Tim Whitaker
Summary Tim recaps his experience attending the Exiles in Babylon conference and shares his thoughts on the event. The conference covered various topics such as Israel and Palestine, deconstruction and reconstruction, women and patriarchy, LGBTQ+ issues, and politics in the church. Tim discusses the controversy surrounding the event due to the host, Preston Sprinkle, holding a non-affirming stance on LGBTQ+ issues. He shares his own conflicted perspective on the matter. Tim also highlights the diversity of speakers and attendees at the conference and the positive conversations that took place. Takeaways The Exiles in Babylon conference covered a range of topics that are currently in the cultural zeitgeist. The event was controversial due to the host, Preston Sprinkle, holding a non-affirming stance on LGBTQ+ issues. The conference had a diverse range of speakers and attendees, fostering positive and thought-provoking conversations. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Gratitude 06:32 Tim's Role at the Conference 10:34 Protesters and Criticism 15:47 The Burden of Side B Perspectives 25:40 Changing Perspectives and Encouragement 29:47 Supporting the Work of Project Amplify Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

247. TNE TALKS: Compassion is Not Political // Bri Stensrud
Summary Bri Stensrud, founder of Women of Welcome, and author of the book, Starts with Welcome: The Journey Toward a Confident and Compassionate Immigration Conversation, discusses her passion for the immigration conversation and how it changed her personal and professional life. Bri reflects on the disconnect between the evangelical culture she grew up in and the reality of the immigration issue, and how it led her to question her faith, politics, and personal life. Takeaways The immigration conversation is complex and goes beyond legal and illegal distinctions; it involves understanding the holistic stories of individuals affected by violence, corrupt governments, and civil war. The evangelical culture often prioritizes self-preservation and curated spaces over sacrificially living for others, which can lead to a disconnect between faith and compassionate action. Compassion for immigrants and refugees is not a political stance but a prophetic movement rooted in the teachings of Jesus. Engaging in the immigration conversation requires holding elected officials accountable, advocating for change, and recognizing that no political platform aligns perfectly with pro-immigrant values. Meeting people where they are in their understanding of immigration issues is important for fostering compassion and understanding. Chapters 00:00 The Transformative Power of Encounters 03:46 The Disconnect Between Evangelical Culture and the Reality of the Immigration Issue 08:41 Moving Beyond Legal vs. Illegal 12:18 The Need for a Prophetic Movement: Compassion as a Spiritual Responsibility 27:53 Compassion and Understanding in Immigration Conversations 30:24 Starts with Welcome: A Faith-Filled Perspective on Immigration 33:44 Addressing the Broken Immigration System and the Need for Reform 41:37 Proximity and Compassion: Essential Elements in Immigration Advocacy Read Start with Welcome by Bri Stensrud Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

246. TNE RECAPS: Mark Driscoll Needs Therapy
Summary In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent events involving Josh Howerton and Mark Driscoll. They talk about Josh's apology and the similarities between his apology and another pastor's apology. They also discuss Mark's controversial remarks at the Stronger Men's Conference and his use of the Jezebel spirit trope. The conversation delves into the problematic nature of these actions and the reactions from the audience and online community. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent controversy surrounding Mark Driscoll and his involvement in the Stronger Men's Conference. They explore the dynamics of the charismatic world and its tendency to look for demons everywhere, as well as the intersection of Christian nationalism and charismatic beliefs. They also highlight the lack of accountability and the documented legacy of abuse associated with Mark Driscoll. The conversation touches on the internalized misogyny within evangelical circles and the problematic views on women's modesty. They conclude by discussing the recent developments involving John Lindell and his call for Mark Driscoll to repent. Takeaways Apologies should be genuine and not copied from others Using the Jezebel spirit trope is sexist and misogynistic Mark Driscoll's actions and remarks are calculated and attention-seeking The reactions from the audience and online community reveal the problematic nature of these actions. The charismatic world is often primed to look for demons everywhere, and this tendency is amplified when combined with Christian nationalist beliefs. Mark Driscoll has a history of abuse and a lack of accountability, yet he continues to gain a following and promote his new book. There is a prevalent issue of internalized misogyny within evangelical circles, with many women defending Mark Driscoll despite his problematic views and treatment of women. John Lindell has called out Mark Driscoll for his actions and has received death threats as a result. The concept of 'modesty' in evangelical circles is often misused and places the burden on women to manage men's thoughts and actions. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Setting 07:07 Josh Howerton's Apology and Plagiarism 31:26 Mark's Calculated Actions and Reactions 43:04 John Lindell's Call for Mark Driscoll to Repent Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

245. TNE RESPONDS: This Might Change the Church Forever Pt. 1 // Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch
Summary In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the upcoming book by Richard B. Hayes, a respected New Testament scholar, titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.' They explore the potential impact of the book and the various reactions it has received. They also discuss the importance of acknowledging the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and the need for an apology. They consider the strategic implications of the book and its potential to shift the conversation in white evangelical spaces. They highlight the importance of listening to the voices of queer Christian scholars and the potential for the book to provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality. In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the complexities of personal beliefs and the influence of family and media. They explore the idea of holding contradictory views and the importance of integration and growth. Takeaways Richard B. Hayes, a respected New Testament scholar, has written a book titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.' The book has received various reactions, ranging from skepticism to hopefulness. It is important to acknowledge the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and to apologize for the damage done. The book has the potential to make a significant impact in white evangelical spaces, particularly among the rank and file members of churches. The strategic implications of the book should be considered, as it may provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 06:47 Reactions and Expectations 26:52 Validation and Support for Navigating Faith and Sexuality 42:28 The Importance of Integration and Growth Connect with Dan Koch Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

244. TNE TALKS: Our Unique Moment In American Democracy // Sharon McMahon
Sharon McMahon discusses her background. She emphasizes the importance of pluralism and focusing on behaviors rather than beliefs. She shares her passion for government and history, as well as the process of writing her book The Small and the Mighty. Takeaways Engaging with different perspectives can be challenging but is essential for personal growth and learning. Online harassment is a significant issue, with women and minorities often facing more severe threats and abuse. Christian nationalism is a threat to democracy, with some proponents advocating for authoritarianism and the exclusion of certain groups. Polarization in American politics is not new, but the current era is unique due to factors such as the internet and media fragmentation. The founding of America was not explicitly intended to be a Christian nation, and the principles of democracy should be prioritized over religious affiliation. When voting, it is important to consider a candidate's character, commitment to democratic principles, and long-term impact rather than focusing solely on specific policies. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:00 Questioning Faith and Beliefs 06:04 Pluralism and Behaviors 09:56 Dealing with Misinformation and Fake Experts 14:56 Passion for Government and History 21:47 Challenges of Being a Content Creator 32:44 Engaging with Different Perspectives 35:38 The Meanest Group on the Internet 41:21 Polarization in American History 45:02 Christian Nationalism and its Impact 51:21 The Founding of America and Christian Influence 01:02:18 Critical Thinking in the Voting Process Connect with Sharon McMahon Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

243. TNE RECAPS: Trump Got (Just) ONE Thing Right? // April Ajoy and Tim Whitaker
ECheck out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices