The Modern .NET Show

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "But I was looking for something that I could give to some of my team members as prize for a hackathon that they completed and I basically I didn't want to didn't want to force them down that route of having to solder their own stuff. So I found um a little board with a a display on it um and various other capabilities um and then and realised that I could put the nano framework on it."— Andy Clark Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Andy Clark to talk about .NET Nanoframework, how he came to find out about it (pro tip: there's a wonderful circular moment in the episode, see if you can spot it), and why he chose to look into embedded systems in the first place. "IAnd I think it's the the same kind of applies to software which is if you're doing the same things over and over again you almost kind of blinker yourself into working in particular ways."— Andy Clark Along the way, we talked about the importance of both constraints on software design, and in looking around at what other systems and frameworks do and use. We also took a walk down memory lane for me, as what we were talking about reminded me of my college days. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/iot-and-net-nanoframwork-andy-clark-on-building-beyond-the-limit/ Useful Links: Andy's Website .NET Nanoframework M5Stack boards .NET Nanoframework docs for ESP32 Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "For me it's born out of, I mean the old phrase right, that necessity is the mother of invention. And I want to make games actually, but I think there's a missing middleware in the industry at the moment for certain types of game developers."— Ben Bowen Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Ben Bowen to talk about TinyFFR - a cross-platform library for .NET which allows developers to render 3D models. TinyFFR came from Ben spotting that there is a gap in the Games Development tools market: somewhere between 3D modelling software and a full-blown game engine. "I, personally, believe that a library or software middleware is only really as good as the documentation that comes with it. You probably drive away 90% of the potentially interested parties if you're just saying to them, 'hey, if you want to learn how to use this, you'd better go spelunking through the source code or looking at examples."— Ben Bowen Along the way, we talked about the importance of really good quality documentation. And it should come as no surprise to you that we talked about this because the documentation for TinyFFR is fantastic. Seriously folks, when you're done listening to this episode, go check out Ben's Hello Cube tutorial for TinyFFR and you'll see what I mean. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/from-zero-to-3d-ben-bowen-on-tinyffrs-rapid-net-rendering/ Useful Links: TinyFFR Ben's links: Website Bluesky Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "So it essentially is a build orchestration framework. So it doesn't replace the .NET CL or MSBuild or whatever you're using today. It doesn't replace GitHub Actions or Azure pipelines. What it does is that it reduces the complexity of those things"— Mattias Karlsson Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Matthas Karlsson to talk about Cake (aka C# Make), the build orchestrator built entirely in .NET. "Like, you need to evaluate and see what works for you. Because, like, if you have an open source project and all you do is dotnet pack, then it might be too complicated."— Mattias Karlsson Along the way, we talked about what a build orchestrator is, why you might consider one (and when it might be too complex to have one), the recent single file application changes to .NET (i.e `dotnet run file.cs`), and talk about why it's important to have multiple tools in your development toolbox. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/from-yaml-chaos-to-csharp-clarity-mattias-karlsson-on-cake-build/ Useful Links: Cake Build Mattias' links: Website LinkedIn Bluesky Mastadon Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "There's so much that we can talk about with. NET 10 and related things like C# 14. So I'm going to try and focus on a few of the highlights that are personal highlights for me So let's start with the language actually, C# 14."— Mark J Price Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Mark J Price to talk about some of our favourite things in .NET 10 and his new four-part book series on, quite literally, everything .NET. Mark is one of the most prolific authors in the .NET space at the moment, and his new book series is shaping up to be a fantastic resource. "One of the things that I've always appreciated with Microsoft and their culture is that they have a very strong requirement that thing things are as backwards compatible as possible."— Mark J Price Along the way, we talked about the recent changes to the STS (aka Standard Term Support) lifecycle for .NET, brining more support to the odd numbered versions of .NET and giving companies more time to migrate from one version to the next. We also covered a very important point when it comes to either STS or LTS towards the end of the episode: essentially, keep your runtimes up to date, folks. This episode marks the fifth appearance of Mark on the show. Mark has been a wonderful collaborator over the years, and long may that continue. We joke about the fact that Mark deserves an award for the guest with the most episodes, but maybe he does deserve an award. Unless someone out there is willing to beat his record, of course. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/the-paper-cuts-microsoft-actually-fixes-a-deep-dive-into-net-10-with-mark-j-price/ Useful Links: Mark's Books: C# 14 and .NET 10 – Modern Cross-Platform Development Fundamentals Real-World Web Development with .NET 10 Apps and Services with .NET 10 Tools and Skills for .NET 10 Mark on GitHub Packt Publishing Discord .NET Pro newsletter Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "The idea is that you get you have some sort of source. It's called usually the single source of truth, which is usually a database. In the case of web caching is the remote server that is the authoritative uh source of truth."— Jody Donetti Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by to talk about FusionCache, caching in general, and what in-memory, distributed, and hybrid caching are. Note: hybrid caching ins't the same as the Microsoft library HybridCache. "That's the first problem. The second problem is that by using a distributed cache directly, you pay the price of network calls and deserialization every single cache call that you make."— Jody Donetti Along the way, we talked about open source development, how Jody got started with working in the open, and that listeners should never be scared of working in the open. If you're building something for fun or to learn (rather than to give back or create the next big open source library), then let people know in the readme. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/jody-donetti-on-creating-fusioncache-and-collaborating-with-microsoft-on-hybridcache/ Useful Links: Jody's courses on Dometrain FusionCache HybridCache Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Show Notes Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. This episode is a slight departure from the standard episode format, as it's a snippet of an episode of Code Radio. I was invited to discuss GitHub's SpecKit on Coder Radio as I'd been talking about it on the Discord server for the show for a while and really believe in it's transformative power as one of the better Coding-with-AI frameworks. During the episode, I brough up ClawdBot which immediately aged the episode. Clawdbot has gone through two name changes since the episode was recorded and this bonus episode was released: first to MoltBot then to OpenClaw. Another thing to note is that, since the episode went live Michael has opened up his Code for Climate 2026 — The Mad Botter Earth Day Open Source Challenge for anyone in K-12 and college education. So if you know folks who would be interested, send them the link. There are some amazing prizes up for grabs, including a couple of System76 computer systems and even a paid internship at The Mad Botter Inc. Anyway, let's get to the episode. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/bonus-coder-radio-episode-640-snippet/ Useful Links: Coder Radio The Modern .Net Shows' Jamie Taylor SpecKit Coder Radio Discord Code for Climate 2026 — The Mad Botter Earth Day Open Source Challenge OpenClaw OWASP Michael's Links Website LinkedIn Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "Another thing which I also observed is that there is some benefit to be able to run your load test in your native... using your native platform, libraries, protocol access; those type of things. Because in our case, for example, we use Orleans and it's a proprietary protocol which doesn't exist in in Java in Scala language. The same about, almost the same, was about Signal R: Microsoft released SignalR for Java, but the quality of this library was different."— Anton Moldovan Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Anton Moldovan to talk about load testing, advice for testing strategies, and how NBomber can help you to load test your applications. Are you sure that your application can handle 4 million users at once? Better load test it before you start boasting. "We call this type of test, like, "user journey." Like, end-to-end simulating user journey across entire applications. So end-to-end, end-to-end flow, end-to-end tests. But this type of test they they have some downsides."— Anton Moldovan Along the way, we talked the different types of testing involved in getting your application for production, the many different ways that NBomber (or other load testing suites) can help you prepare for that, and Anton helps us understand a little more about functional programming. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/from-chaos-to-control-anton-moldovan-on-load-testing-with-nbomber/ Useful Links: NDepend Trial download Blog Videos Use Cases Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "So the interest plays a lot of a huge role. Like for example a security issue, it can take you maybe half a day to fix, or maybe one hour to fix; so it's very easy to fix. But if you don't fix it, you get so... you'll get so many angry users that it may be, it maybe, it will cost you your entire business; you see. So this can be seen as an interest."— Patrick Smacchia Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Patrick Smacchia to talk about NDepend, technical debt and the interest it accrues (something that's often forgotten about), and how NDepend can help you to keep your tech debt (and it's interest) low. "But the thing we see is that the edge code is usually the code where you get the bugs. So you end up writing some quick tests that can cover 90% of your code, but your 10% here is not tested. And because it's not well implemented and it's likely to contain the bug. So, maybe you should refactor your code and make your class testable."— Patrick Smacchia Along the way, we talked about the common pitfalls that most developers make when writing code, and how to keep your code both testable and easy to maintain. We also took some time to talk about bug reports, the things that you and I can do to ensure that our bug reports are read, providing positive feedback, the Visual Studio teams' velocity, and some of the amazing new features in Visual Studio 2026 like the ... well, I'm getting ahead of myself. You'll have to listen in to the episode to find out what those features are. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreonor Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/ndepend-with-patrick-smacchia-scaling-net-code-quality/ Useful Links: NDepend Trial download Blog Videos Use Cases Episode 112 - NDepend with Patrick Smacchia CQLinq Patrick on LinkedIn NDepend on LinkedIn Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "And the first feature we have that take advantage of this deep integration is the Profiler Agent. And this is absolutely bonkers. So you can simply go to the chat window in Visual Studio and you can ask…"— Mads Kristensen Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Mads Kristensen to talk about all things IDEs, tooling, and the new functionality that Visual Studio 2026 (aka "Dev 18") includes and how it has the chance of greatly impacting your development practice, in a fantastic way! "And we want to make sure that You know, we we do as many of those as we can. We want to remove those paper cuts, make you as happy as possible. And so if you look back at the last 12 months, we have of you know of all the bugs people have opened on us, we fixed almost 4500 user-reported bugs. That's 18 bugs that we fixed every single work day."— Mads Kristensen Did you know that Mads was present for what many see as the inciting incident that lead to .NET being both open source and cross platform: when jQuery was bundled with ASP .NET Framework and Visual Studio.. We also took some time to talk about bug reports, the things that you and I can do to ensure that our bug reports are read, providing positive feedback, the Visual Studio teams' velocity, and some of the amazing new features in Visual Studio 2026 like the ... well, I'm getting ahead of myself. You'll have to listen in to the episode to find out what those features are. It's also worth noting that I recorded this podcast with Mads back in late August 2025, which was way ahead of the public preview of Visual Studio 2026. Whilst we didn't talk about anything that was super secret, things might have changed between recording the episode and you listening in. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/unpacking-visual-studio-2026-new-features-bug-fixes-and-whats-coming-next-with-mads-kristensen/ Useful Links: BlogEngine .NET visualstudio.com Mads on X (formerly Twitter) the Visual Studio team on X Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in touch: via the contact page joining the Discord Podcast editing services provided by Matthew Bliss Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.

Strategic Technology Consultation Services This episode of The Modern .NET Show is supported, in part, by RJJ Software's Strategic Technology Consultation Services. If you're an SME (Small to Medium Enterprise) leader wondering why your technology investments aren't delivering, or you're facing critical decisions about AI, modernization, or team productivity, let's talk. Show Notes "You actually cannot do proper vertical slice if you are bounded to controllers. Because there are some additional dependencies that you can download, like Ardalis [ApiEndpoints] or like Fast Endpoints that will give you actually what Minimal API is giving you. But with the standard controller-based approach you are not able to do the full vertical slice, because every time you'll need to take this, let's say presentation layer, outside your slice because it needs to be, just as you said, in the class that is inheriting from Controller and doing all the actions and stuff like this."— Kajetan Duszyński Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Modern .NET Show; the premier .NET podcast, focusing entirely on the knowledge, tools, and frameworks that all .NET developers should have in their toolbox. I'm your host Jamie Taylor, bringing you conversations with the brightest minds in the .NET ecosystem. Today, we're joined by Kajetan Duszyński to talk about some of the new things that are coming up in .NET 10. We cover some of the big things that you might have missed, some of the optimisations you can make by removing code (listen up for one in a few moments), and we also talk about his new book ".NET 10 Revealed." "So you all need to remember that if you are using Minimal APIs and you've used the extension method WithOpenAPI(), which created a proper OpenAPI schema. Right now it won't be used, so you'll need to delete every usage of this method from your whole application, because it will be um added by default in the pipeline of creating, of starting up the application."— Kajetan Duszyński Along the way we talked about allocations, the importance of learning MSIL (what your C# and F# code is compiled to), memory management, how fast .NET is moving and when we're likely to see the first public preview of .NET 11, and the vertical slice architecture. One of the biggest things that I think will cause some head scratching in .NET 10 is the new local self-signed TLS certificate. I've linked to an article by the folks at Duende about this, and it'll be worth adding it to your reading list. It's a great addition to .NET 10, but it'll catch some folks out. Before we jump in, a quick reminder: if The Modern .NET Show has become part of your learning journey, please consider supporting us through Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee. Every contribution helps us continue bringing you these in-depth conversations with industry experts. You'll find all the links in the show notes. Anyway, without further ado, let's sit back, open up a terminal, type in `dotnet new podcast` and we'll dive into the core of Modern .NET. Full Show Notes The full show notes, including links to some of the things we discussed and a full transcription of this episode, can be found at: https://dotnetcore.show/season-8/building-on-net-10-a-chat-with-kajetan-duszynsk-author-of-net-10-revealed Useful Links: Ardalis ApiEndpoints REPR pattern Fast Endpoints Why You Should Be Using .NET 10's New TLS Certificate Kajetan's .NET school Kajetan on LinkedIn .NET 10 Revealed Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in touch: via the contact page joining the Discord Podcast editing services provided by Matthew Bliss Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services Supporting the show: Leave a rating or review Buy the show a coffee Become a patron Getting in Touch: Via the contact page Joining the Discord Remember to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, or wherever you find your podcasts, this will help the show's audience grow. Or you can just share the show with a friend. And don't forget to reach out via our Contact page. We're very interested in your opinion of the show, so please get in touch. You can support the show by making a monthly donation on the show's Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/TheDotNetCorePodcast. Music created by Mono Memory Music, licensed to RJJ Software for use in The Modern .NET Show. Editing and post-production services for this episode were provided by MB Podcast Services.