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The Missing Matter

The Missing Matter

49 episodes

$1 Million Dollar Reward

May 6, 202643 min

One Last Catch-Up with Joni

Apr 19, 202639 min

Signs, Searches and the Missing Who Still Matter

Apr 13, 202659 min

Help Find Yvonne - Bonus episode

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In this urgent bonus episode of The Missing Matter, Sally shares the story of Yvonne Whear , a 73-year-old woman who disappeared from her rural New South Wales property in February 2026 without explanation. As her family searches for answers, the episode explores the final known movements in Yvonne’s case, the growing concerns around missing persons investigations in the Northern Rivers, and the haunting question of what may still lie hidden in local waterways. Joined by Kim Marshall, Sally unpacks the reality families face when a loved one vanishes and why awareness, action, and truth matter more than ever.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 8, 202652 min

S3 Ep 8The Power of the Podcast with Hedley Thomas

Hedley Thomas started his career as a copy boy at 17 and spent four decades chasing some of the world's biggest stories, from the fall of the Berlin Wall to the Hong Kong handover, before finding his most powerful tool yet: the podcast. In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with the award-winning investigative journalist and creator of The Teacher's Pet to explore how long-form audio storytelling has reshaped the fight for justice in cold cases and missing persons investigations. From reporting on the Dawson case in a Brisbane newspaper library in 2001 to producing a podcast that helped send Chris Dawson to prison, Hedley explains how the freedom of podcasting allows him to go where traditional media can't, unpacking briefs of evidence, finding new witnesses, and keeping cases alive long after the system has moved on. With more than a hundred million downloads and investigations that have driven real-world change, Hedley reflects on what keeps him going, why he believes the criminal justice system has failed victims, and why the missing still matter even when the guilty think they've gotten away with it.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 28, 202659 min

S3 Ep 7The Daughter’s Side of the Story - Sally and Ella

In this deeply personal episode, Sally sits down with her daughter Ella to explore what it’s really like growing up in the shadow of a missing person. It’s a raw and honest conversation about family, identity, and the quiet impact of a story that never truly leaves you.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 22, 20261h 0m

S3 Ep 6The Justice Tragic: Graeme Crowley’s Fight for the Forgotten

Former police officer turned investigator Graeme Crowley has spent nearly fifty years chasing justice. What began as a career in policing eventually evolved into something unexpected, true-crime podcast investigations that challenge official narratives and reopen forgotten cases. In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with Graeme to explore how podcasting has become a powerful tool for uncovering new evidence, questioning flawed investigations, and giving families answers when the system has failed them. From missing persons to suspicious suicides and wrongful convictions, Graeme explains how pulling apart a brief of evidence can reveal cracks in the story prosecutors once relied on. He shares how one podcast investigation helped push police to re-examine a suspicious death  ultimately leading to a murder arrest that may never have happened otherwise. Together, Sally and Graeme discuss: Why missing person cases often lose urgency within the system The hidden problems inside coronial investigations The emotional toll on families waiting decades for answers How podcasts are changing the landscape of criminal investigations For Graeme, this work isn’t a job — it’s a lifelong pursuit. Because sometimes the search for truth doesn’t begin with police. And sometimes the answers come from the people who refuse to stop asking questions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 16, 202654 min

S3 Ep 5Leisl Matters... 4,925 days missing

When 23-year-old Leisl Smith left home on the New South Wales Central Coast on August 19, 2012, she told her father she’d be back by five to feed her animals. She never returned. In this episode of The Missing Matter, Leisl's mother, Sandi Harvey, shares the story of the quirky, animal-loving young woman who preferred horses and swimming pools to crowded rooms—and the day her life changed forever. What began as a routine meeting near Tuggerah Railway Station would become the start of a mystery that still haunts her family more than a decade later. Leisl was reported missing days after she vanished, and the investigation that followed would stretch across ten years, uncovering disturbing inconsistencies and ultimately leading police to charge the man they believed responsible. With the verdict sealed by law and Leisl still missing, Sandi has been left navigating a grief without resolution. Yet her determination to speak, to push for change and to bring Leisl home has never wavered. Because Leisl matters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 8, 202659 min

S3 Ep 4Anna Matters ... 914 days missing - Part 2

****Content Warning:This episode contains discussion of human remains being discovered. Listener discretion is advised. When Anna Jenkins vanished in Penang in December 2017, her family believed authorities would act swiftly. They were wrong. In Part Two of this gripping conversation, Greg Jenkins takes us deeper into the relentless three-year search that followed his mother’s final phone call. From covering more than 120,000 kilometres across Malaysia to conducting thousands of interviews himself, Greg refused to accept silence as an answer. But what he eventually uncovered would raise even more disturbing questions. After an anonymous message led him to a construction site, Greg made a discovery that should have changed everything. Instead, he found himself battling roadblocks, denials and a system he believes prioritised power and profit over truth. Nearly 3,000 days on, Greg is still fighting. Because Anna matters...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 1, 202645 min

S3 Ep 3Anna Matters ... 914 days missing -Part 1

****Content Warning:This episode contains discussion of human remains being discovered. Listener discretion is advised. Anna Jenkins went to the dentist in Penang on December 13, 2017. Hours later, she called her husband in panic, saying someone was trying to kidnap her. Then the line went dead. Police dismissed it. Suggested she’d wandered off. Ignored key CCTV. Refused to investigate properly. While authorities looked the other way, Anna’s son Greg flew to Malaysia and began doing their job for them. For 914 days, Anna was missing. Over nearly three years, Greg travelled more than 120,000 kilometres across Malaysia, put up thousands of posters, interviewed anyone who would talk — and uncovered leads police never followed. Then an anonymous message arrived. In Part 1 of this powerful two-part series, Greg reveals the moment he realised the system had failed his mum — and the discovery that would change everything. Because Anna matters...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 22, 202650 min

S3 Ep 2Mindy: The Super Sleuth Linked to Dear Rachelle

In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with Mindy a relentless behind-the-scenes super sleuth who played a key role in supporting the Dear Rachelle journey. Mindy shares what it’s really like helping families through missing and unsolved cases and how quickly a disappearance can spiral when authorities can’t keep pace. From media pressure to urgent real-time searching, this is a powerful conversation about determination, frustration, and the fight to bring people home.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 15, 202658 min

S3 Ep 1Sandrine Matters...4,946 days missing

Welcome back to Season 3 of The Missing Matter. On Friday, July 13, 2012, 37-year-old mother of three Sandrine Jourdan vanished from a property in Caboolture, north of Brisbane. Fourteen years later, she has never been seen or heard from again. In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally is joined by Sandrine’s youngest daughter, Nikita, who shares what she remembers, the unanswered questions, and why her family refuses to accept the official narrative. Links to Sandrine pages  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 8, 20261h 26m

Season 3 returns - Monday Feb 9

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The Missing Matter is back.This Monday, February 9, we return with an all-new season. This season, Sally once again steps into the missing space having gentle, respectful conversations with those closest to the stories, giving voice to families, friends, and the people still searching for answers. Across the season we’ll dig deeper into the cases left unresolved, speak with voices you haven’t heard before, and follow the threads others have let go cold. Season 3 of The Missing Matter — coming Monday, February 9.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 1, 20262 min

Bonus - Stephanie Tinsley - The Power of the Podcast

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Sally's journey into searching for her mum has travelled the globe, and now so has The Missing Matter. In this episode of The Missing Matter, we travel to Nashville, Tennessee, to speak with Stephanie Tinsley, host of the investigative podcast Everything They Missed. Stephanie shares how witnessing the Alex Murdaugh murder case up close drew her into the world of true crime and exposed serious flaws in the justice system. That path led her to the 2007 murder of Danny Harris and the wrongful conviction of Andrew Hayes, a man who has spent 18 years in prison for a crime he says he didn’t commit. We talk about the power of podcasting to uncover missed evidence, the vital work of the Tennessee Innocence Project, and the emotional toll of chasing truth in real time when justice, freedom, and hope are still on the line. Series 3 of The Missing Matter is back in early Feb. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 11, 202642 min

S2 Ep 19End of Year Wrap with Sally and Jay

In this final episode for 2025 Sally sits down with Jay to reflect on the year and announce what's happening with The Missing Matter in 2026. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 21, 202525 min

S2 Ep 18Scott Matters... 199 days missing

In this episode, Sally speaks with Janette Hayden, whose 46-year-old son Scott vanished on 29 May 2025 near Taree, NSW. Scott’s behaviour had been shifting in the weeks before he disappeared—talking about God, training hard, eating clean, and struggling with his mental health. His family did what families do: they worried, they watched, and when things escalated, they went to police. More than once. Days later, Scott’s bright gold car was found abandoned with his wallet, keys, shoes, food and belongings still inside — but no sign of Scott. It has now been more than 199 days. Janette bravely walks us through the timeline: the changes in Scott’s behaviour, the alarming events of that night, the unanswered questions, the footprints found, the community efforts, and a police response that left the family feeling dismissed at the most critical moment. This is the story of a much-loved son, brother and uncle — a man who matters deeply to everyone who knows him. If you have information that may help find Scott Hayden, please contact Crime Stoppers or reach out privately via the Facebook page Can You Help Find Scott Hayden?  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 14, 202548 min

S2 Ep 17Aaron Matters... 2093 days missing

In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with Aaron Clear’s sister, Cassandra, to uncover the story behind her brother’s disappearance. Aaron vanished in early 2020, leaving behind only fragments of a life and a family searching for answers. Cassandra shares who Aaron was beyond the missing person posters  his childhood, his struggles, his dreams, and the moments that now carry the most weight. Together, they step through the final known timeline, the reporting delays, and the unanswered questions that still haunt the family today.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 7, 20251h 3m

S2 Ep 16Search Dog Sydney - Chris D'Arcy

In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with her friend Chris D'Arcy, the lead behind Search Dog Sydney, the volunteer team called in when families have run out of options. Chris and his dogs work some of Australia’s most heartbreaking cases, from long-term missing searches to human remains detection, stepping in where systems have failed.  Together, Sally and Chris revisit their own searches, expose the gaps that leave families searching alone, and reveal how these extraordinary dogs find answers that others miss. A raw, powerful look into the people and dogs  fighting to bring the missing homeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 30, 202555 min

S2 Ep 15Andrew Matters... 14,565 days missing

In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally uncovers the quiet, haunting disappearance of 18-year-old Andrew Inglis, who vanished from a Yamba caravan park in 1985 without a trace. What began as a normal summer holiday ended in one of Australia’s most overlooked missing-person mysteries  no search, no inquest, no public appeal, and a family left in limbo for nearly forty years.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 23, 202556 min

S2 Ep 14The DNA Matchmaker for the Missing : Dr Jodie Ward

  In this powerful and deeply informative episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with forensic human identification specialist Dr. Jodie Ward, known by many as the matchmaker for the missing. Jodie led the AFP’s National DNA Program for Unidentified and Missing Persons, a groundbreaking initiative that uncovered answers for families left waiting for decades. Together, Sally and Jodie unpack the extraordinary science behind identification: the realities of DNA testing, how bone samples are analyzed, why mitochondrial and Y-chromosome DNA matter, and how new SNP technology is reshaping what’s possible. Jodie shares the behind-the-scenes story of how she fought for a national program, the international techniques she brought to Australia, and the 54 cases her team resolved, including long-term missing people who were never even reported missing. A powerful conversation between two women working tirelessly to bring answers, dignity, and identity back to those who’ve been lost. Check out Jodie's work here   https://forensichid.co/  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 16, 20251h 2m

S2 Ep 13Bronwyn Matters... 11,848 days missing

In this deeply personal episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with Kim Marshall to share the story of her sister, Bronwyn Winfield, who has been missing for more than 11,848 days. Bronwyn was reported missing by her estranged husband 11 days after she was last seen in May 1993. Together, Kim and Sally walk through Bronwyn’s final months her courage, her attempts to rebuild her life, the growing pressures she faced, and the heartbreaking gaps in the initial investigation. Kim shares intimate memories of the sister she knew: brave, hopeful, protective, and determined. She also speaks honestly about ambiguous loss, the decades-long fight for recognition, and the systems that failed her family.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 10, 20251h 4m

S2 Ep 12The Promise with Bryan Littlely

More than 50 years after Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon vanished from Adelaide Oval, journalist Bryan Littlely is still chasing their story not for headlines, but for a promise he made. After decades in newsrooms, Bryan left behind the daily grind to follow one of South Australia’s darkest mysteries. Now, with a small team of volunteers and the girls’ sister, Suzie Ratcliffe, he digs through red dust, old police files, and decades of silence in search of answers the system couldn’t or wouldn’t find. What began as an investigation has become something deeper: a personal mission to honor the missing, challenge authority, and give voice to those long ignored. This is a story about truth, trust, and the people who refuse to let hope fade.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 2, 202548 min

S2 Ep 11Katie Matters... 7227 days missing

In December 2005, 45-year-old Kathleen “Katie” O’Shea travelled from Melbourne to North Queensland to meet her first grandchild. She never arrived. Nearly twenty years later, Katie’s daughter Lily shares the story of her mother’s disappearance — a journey marked by unanswered questions, lost opportunities, and a family’s enduring hope for justice. This episode of The Missing Matter unpacks the investigation, the inquest, and the pain of living without answers in one of Australia’s most haunting missing person cases. If you know someone who is dealing with a missing person, and would like to share your story, contact Sally at [email protected] omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 26, 202547 min

S2 Ep 10Billy Matters... 14,721 days missing

  On June 17th, 1985, William “Billy” Steffen vanished from North Hobart, Tasmania, leaving behind two young children, a tent burned on the beach, and decades of unanswered questions. Forty years on, his daughter Susie shares her memories, grief, and determination to uncover what really happened to her dad. From lost police records to missed DNA matches, this episode exposes the deep cracks in Australia’s missing persons system and the enduring love of a family who refuse to forget. If you know someone who is dealing with a missing person, and would like to share your story, contact Sally at [email protected] omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 19, 202551 min

S2 Ep 9Lorrin Matters... 4625 days missing

Sally Leydon sits down with families still searching for their loved ones, stories that have faded from headlines but never from their hearts. In this episode, Sally speaks with Amelia Grozdanovski, whose mother, Lorrin Jane Whitehead vanished from Bannockburn, Victoria, in 2013. Together they revisit that day, the unanswered questions, and the emotional toll of living without answers. It’s a raw and compassionate look at Australia’s missing, the families who keep searching, and the fight to be heard.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 13, 202551 min

S2 Ep 8Ray & Jennie Matter... Jennie missing 3822 days

In March 2015, Ray and Jennie Kehlet vanished on a prospecting trip in remote WA. Days later, Ray’s body was found at the bottom of a mine shaft. Jennie has never been found. A coronial inquest ruled Ray was murdered, but no one has been charged. The only survivor has changed his story multiple times. This podcast unravels nine years of evidence, missed opportunities, and unanswered questions in the search for justice for Ray and Jennie. If you know someone who is dealing with a missing person, and would like to share your story, contact Sally at [email protected]  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 6, 202557 min

S2 Ep 7James Matters... 2020 days missing

# The Vanishing of James "Crackers" Hunter In the vast landscapes of rural New South Wales, a man known for his charismatic presence and unpredictable nature simply disappeared. James "Crackers" Hunter was last seen at a Dubbo pharmacy on February 28, 2020 - over 2,000 days ago. His blue Toyota Hilux was found abandoned on a rural property two years later, but James himself has vanished without a trace. For his former partner Marie Farrell, the years since have been consumed by an unrelenting search for answers. The podcast takes us deep into the complex reality of ambiguous loss - the torment of not knowing whether someone is alive or dead. Marie shares intimate details about James's transient lifestyle, his ability to connect with people from all walks of life, and the deep bond they maintained even after their relationship ended. As she navigates the frustrating landscape of police investigations, media misrepresentations, and personal grief, Marie reveals the devastating impact of living in limbo. ## Timestamps and Key Takeaways:- 05:30 - James's last known whereabouts and the timeline of his disappearance- 14:20 - The discovery of James's vehicle and questions surrounding its return to the property- 22:45 - Marie's organization of high-tech drone searches covering 1,700 hectares- 35:10 - The revelation that police considered the case a potential homicide by April 2022- 43:20 - James's intelligent, adaptable nature and his ability to connect with people across social boundaries- 51:30 - The impact of ambiguous loss on Marie's mental health and family relationships If you have any information about James Hunter's disappearance, please contact Crime Stoppers at 1800 333 000 or the Dubbo Police Station. Even the smallest detail could be the missing piece that brings closure to those who love him. As Marie reminds us, "He doesn't deserve to be an unknown person... he matters because he's important." If you know someone who is dealing with a missing person, and would like to share your story, contact Sally at [email protected]    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 28, 202558 min

Laura Richards - Marion Matters (Bonus)

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In this bonus episode of The Missing Matter, crime analyst Laura Richards joins Sally and Joni from Los Angeles to discuss the case of Sal’s mum, Marion, and their recent overseas trip.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 23, 202554 min

S2 Ep 6Patrick Matters... 500 days missing

Patrick Liedke was 39 when he vanished from Tweed Heads in April 2024 a gentle, artistic soul loved by his family, with paintings on hospital walls and a life shaped by neurodiversity and complex health needs. In the days after a hospital discharge, sightings placed him around Cobaki, Piggabeen and into Currumbin Valley. Then… nothing. This episode follows Patrick’s sister, Nicole, as she turns grief into an unrelenting search — combing ridgelines and creek beds with volunteers, dogs, thermal drones, even paragliders — while wrestling with the what-ifs: delays, borders, systems that didn’t move fast enough. The official multi-agency search stopped on May 1, 2024; Nicole never did.  If you live near Tweed Heads, Piggabeen or Currumbin Valley, please stay alert. Report any information to Tweed Heads Police or Crime Stoppers, and follow Find Patrick Liedke on Facebook for updates and ways to help. For Nicole, every share, every set of eyes on a track, is a step closer to home. If you know someone who is dealing with a missing person, and would like to share your story, contact Sally at [email protected]  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 21, 202549 min

S2 Ep 5Dr. Sarah Wayland – Voices for the Missing

Dr. Sarah Wayland is a social work professor and leading researcher who has spent decades working with families of missing people. From frontline support to shaping national conversations on ambiguous loss and trauma, she brings unique insight into what it means to live in the “missing” space and why these stories matter  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 14, 202553 min

S2 Ep 4Jesper Matters... 2977 Days Missing

On Sunday, 25th June 2017, Jorn Jesper Jensen, known to all as Jesper, vanished without a trace. A devoted father and grandfather, Jesper’s sudden disappearance shocked his family and community. In this episode, we go back to the day it happened, retracing Jesper’s last known movements, the first signs that something was wrong, and the search that began to find him. More than 2,900 days later, the questions remain: what happened to Jesper, and why has he never been found? In this episode Sally chats with Belle, one of his daughters, to ask why Jesper matters. If you want to listen to Belle's full podcast about her Dad's disappearance, search Dad's Gone on your favourite podcast app. You can sign the petition for justice for jesper here If you know someone who is dealing with a missing person, and would like to share your story, contact Sally at [email protected]  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 7, 202552 min

S2 Ep 3Warren Matters... 6,355 days missing

On Easter Sunday 2008, engineer and devoted dad Warren Meyer set out for a short, well-planned hike at Dom Dom Saddle. He never came home. In this episode, Warren’s wife Zee shares who he was, the day he vanished, and the search that followed. We examine early assumptions that shaped the investigation, the long path through the coroner’s process, and the quiet battles families face when someone goes missing.  If you have a story about ambiguous loss and would like to share your story with Sally Leydon please email here  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 31, 202558 min

S2 Ep 2Nicola Matters... Missing 6,112 days

In this new season Sally Leydon wants to help others who are dealing with ambiguous loss due to a missing loved one. In this episode Jason Sallese tells the story of hsi Dad Nicola who was last seen in November 2008. If you want to contact sally to have an episode feature your missing loved one, contact her here The Missing Matter If you want to listen to know more or help Jason you cna visit him at  Help Find Nicola Sallese Facebook pageSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 24, 20251h 3m

S2 Ep 1Des Matters... Missing 16,923 days

In this new season Sally Leydon wants to help others who are dealing with ambiguous loss due to a missing loved one. In this episode Jay Walkerden tells the story of his uncle Des Carr, who went missing in 1979 and has never been seen since.  If you want to contact sally to have an episode feature your missing loved one, contact her here The Missing Matter If you want to listen to the full podcast series on Des Carr's disappearance, search The Disappearance of Des in your preferred podcast app. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 17, 202552 min

Season 2 Trailer - A New Beginning

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For more than 25 years, Sally Leydon has been waiting for answers about her missing mum, Marion Barter. In Season 2, Sal steps beyond her own story to speak with other families enduring the same unthinkable reality—the ambiguous loss of a loved one who has vanished without explanation. These are raw, intimate conversations about hope that refuses to die, grief that never finds closure, and the strength it takes to live in the in-between.    Episode 1 for Season 2 is out Monday, August 18th.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 10, 20254 min

S1 Ep 11We're Not Finished Yet...

  Sally and Joni hit the road to northern New South Wales, knocking on doors, and coming face to face with people who just might hold missing pieces of the puzzle. Along the way, Sally unveils the next chapter for The Missing Matter — an ambitious new direction that will open up the podcast to other families of the missing, giving their stories a voice and their loved ones a platform.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 4, 202550 min

S1 Ep 10Passport for Sale?

In this final episode of this series, Sally and Joni follow a curious lead about a passport found in Tasmania that belonged to the former owner of a house Rick Blum lived in and they journey to Rye, Tonbridge Wells and Burwash  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 13, 20251h 4m

S1 Ep 9The Police Have All Gone Home? Lille

Sally and Joni arrive in Lille, France, hoping to uncover long-buried records. But instead of answers, they find closed police stations, sealed archives, and endless red tape. Could one small detail still hold the key?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 6, 202531 min

Question Time with Gary Jubelin

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In this bonus episode, Sally interviews Gary Jubelin, one of Australia's most respected detectives, about her mother's unsolved disappearance. They discuss the importance of connecting key people and events in her mother's final days. Sally also asks Gary for his take on the coroner's findings, tendencies in Rick Blum's behavior, and whether police should dig deeper into his past.  Don't miss out on these fascinating insights and advice from one of Australia's top detectives. Listen to the full episode now!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 1, 202533 min

S1 Ep 8The Mysterious Doorbell? Luxembourg

In Luxembourg, Sally and Joni set out to meet Monique Cornelius — a key witness in Marion Barter’s case — but instead stumble on a detail that stops them in their tracks:  As they trace old addresses, explore Luxembourg’s hidden banking secrets, and speak with locals in quiet villages, more strange coincidences emerge. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 29, 202541 min

S1 Ep 7The Coin Cabinet - Brussels

Sally and Joni head to Brussels on a mission to follow one of the strangest leads in the case: a mysterious coin cabinet inside Belgium’s Royal Library. As they dig through archives, flea markets, and fragile connections to Rick Blum’s past, they begin to uncover more about his aliases, his dealings, and possible links to stolen coins and foreign bank accounts. But a visit with one of his former victims — and a quiet moment of compassion — reminds them why they’re really here.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 22, 202548 min

S1 Ep 6Next Stop Amsterdam

In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally and Joni arrive in Amsterdam, following in Marion’s footsteps through rain-soaked streets, smoky hotel rooms, and winding tram rides. With one of them unexpectedly sidelined, the other takes on the city solo—navigating hidden corners, historic museums, and cryptic conversations in search of answers. What unfolds is a mix of emotion, determination, and discovery in a city that holds more than just memories.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 15, 202548 min

S1 Ep 5Cyberattack - London

After leaving Japan with even more questions, Sal and Joni land in London.Their first stop is the British Library, and then it's off to the Sphinx to try to place Marion—and possibly Rick Blum—in the same location back in 1997. To find out more about Sally's search for her mum and the high tea, please head to https://themissingmatter.com/  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 8, 202535 min

S1 Ep 4The Note Paper - Japan

One of the last notes Sally received from her mum was written on hotel notepaper from a room at the Hotel Nikko Narita in Japan. In this episode, Sally and Joni travel there to uncover answers: did her mum ever stay at this hotel? Did she get married here? And what immigration records might finally unlock the secret of Marion’s disappearance?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 1, 202537 min

S1 Ep 3Sniffing Out The Answers

In this episode, Sally and the team join Search Dogs Sydney at two different locations in New South Wales, following up on leads that have emerged over the past few years. You can help Search Dogs Sydney continue their incredible work for people like Sally—who are living with the pain of ambiguous loss—by visiting https://searchdogssydney.org/ and making a donation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 25, 202543 min

S1 Ep 2Rolling With The Punches

In this episode, Sal and Joni share the frustration of trying to move forward after the coronial verdict. For every step ahead, they’re pushed two steps back. Tune in to hear about the red tape, the blunders, the nightmares, the lack of empathy—and, finally, the breakthrough.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 18, 202552 min

The Story So Far...

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Before you listen to the first episode of The Missing Matter, hear how the story has unfolded. In this bonus episode you can catch up on the story of missing person Marion Barter and her daughter Sally's decades-long journey to find out what happened to her mum, who disappeared in 1997. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 11, 20251h 18m

S1 Ep 1So Close, Yet So Far

On 29 February 2024, the coroner delivered her findings into the disappearance of Marion Barter, Sally’s mum. After almost 27 years, Sally was left with more questions than answers—questions she was determined to resolve. In this episode, hear what unfolded in the aftermath of the inquest and discover what comes next.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 11, 202535 min

Introducing - The Missing Matter

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Just when you thought the story was over, the questions only deepen. Hosted by Sally Leydon - Marion’s daughter and the voice you know from The Lady Vanishes - The Missing Matter picks up the trail after the March 2024 coronial findings. With over 22 million downloads behind it, this fan-funded follow-up launches on its own new feed, ready to chart a fresh journey into the unknown. Join Sally and her investigative team as they: Revisit key locations from Australia to Europe, chasing every lead Deploy scent-tracking dogs in the hunt for Marion’s final resting place Travel worldwide—from Japan and London to Amsterdam, Brussels, Luxembourg and Lille Reflect on the coronial findings, the excitement of live events, and the planning stages of an epic research trip Subscribe now at Apple Podcast subscription for the show early and ad free from Monday May 12th.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 1, 20254 min