The Mismatch

Just after the Heat beat the Grizzlies in the nail-biting NBA summer league championship game (0:58), KOC and Verno convene to talk about the standout players from Vegas this summer (8:26). Then they talk about the rumors flying around that Russell Westbrook will sign with the Denver Nuggets (38:14), Team USA’s exhibition games (44:57), and the news that TNT will be submitting a matching offer to retain NBA rights (49:19). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producers: Sasha Ashall and Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are live from Las Vegas as they recap their Vegas trip before diving into the summer league action. They discuss Reed Sheppard’s impressive debut performance, debate if Tidjane Salaun will become the best French player from this draft class, get into what DaRon Holmes's unfortunate injury means for the Nuggets, and more. Also, they discuss Jalen Brunson’s extension and why he decided to take a lot less money to stay with the Knicks. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]!Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer:s Jessie Lopez and Isaiah Blakely Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC go through the most intriguing rookie debuts from over the weekend, starting with Jared McCain and Adem Bona with the 76ers (02:12). Next, they discuss Zach Edey’s impressive debut with the Grizzlies and why he’ll fit perfectly in Memphis alongside Ja Morant (14:40). Also, the guys discuss who they are most excited to watch at this year’s summer league in Las Vegas, why they like DeMar DeRozan signing with the Kings, and how the Spurs’ offseason has set them up for success now and into the future (25:00). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]!Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Now that the free agency period has started, Verno and KOC react to all the free agent signings, extensions, and more, starting with Jayson Tatum’s record-breaking contract extension with the Celtics, as well as Paul George’s impact with the Sixers and where the Clippers go from here (01:26). They then move on to discuss the contracts of Tyrese Maxey, Immanuel Quickley, and debate why the Nuggets wouldn’t match the contract that the Magic gave to Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (20:27). Next, they discuss Klay Thompson’s departure from the Warriors as he leaves to join the Mavs (38:56). Also, the impact that Chris Paul will make on Victor Wembanyama, Stephon Castle, and the rest of the young Spurs, as well as the latest rumors on Lauri Markkanen (46:47). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC recap the 2024 NBA draft, as they discuss picks they liked, picks they disliked, surprises, and more! They start off by discussing Zach Edey’s fit with the Grizzlies, the one big difference maker for Ron Holland’s development with the Pistons, and the importance of situation, fit, and opportunity for younger players entering the league (01:12). Next, they discuss why the Hornets taking Tidjane Salaun at no. 6 led to the Spurs trading away Rob Dillingham, Dalton Knecht’s surprising fall to the Lakers at no. 17, why Buck fans should be pissed, and the increasing value of international prospects (25:05). Also, which second-round picks have the best chance to succeed, as well as the best-case scenario for Bronny James, who was selected by the Lakers and is now teammates with his dad (50:30). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With the NBA draft this week, Verno and KOC dive into the latest draft news, including the uncertainty around the Hawks and the top overall pick and why people are suddenly high on prospect Zaccharie Risacher (01:48). As the conversation continues for who should be the top overall prospect, KOC shares which players he considers to be the safest prospects at the top of the draft, and Verno breaks down why Reed Sheppard would be a perfect fit with the Grizzlies and why the Rockets are big-name hunting (11:21). Next, they debate whether Ron Holland can be this draft’s GG Jackson and talk about the best shooting prospects in this class, Johnny Furphy’s ceiling, and Verno’s favorite college prospects (24:44). Then, KOC ranks his favorite prospect interviews (47:07). Also, what happens with Bronny James? The guys share what they thought about JJ Redick’s introductory press conference with the Lakers and the Cavs' hiring of Kenny Atkinson as their next head coach. Plus, what Scottie Barnes’s max extension means for the Raptors' future (56:19). You can read KOC’s article mentioned in this episode here, and you can find KOC’s Draft Guide here. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With the Finals now behind us, Verno and KOC dive fully into the offseason, starting off with the Lakers' hiring of JJ Redick as their next head coach (02:34) and the Pistons’ firing of Monty Williams (23:44). Next, the guys discuss the surprising trade between the Thunder and Bulls that sends Alex Caruso to OKC and Josh Giddey to Chicago (31:01). They also discuss the latest news around the league, including Pascal Siakam re-signing with the Pacers, Sixers free agent rumors, and more (41:17). With the draft next week, the guys discuss the latest with Bronny James and KOC’s latest mock draft (48:11). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC congratulate the Boston Celtics on winning the 2024 NBA Finals! They discuss their dominant playoff run as well as their dominant play all season long en route to an NBA record 18th NBA championship (01:22). Where does this Celtics team rank among the all-time great teams? The guys also applaud Brad Stevens for making the necessary moves to win it all, what lessons owners can take from this year's Finals, as well as the redemption arc for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. Next, KOC shares some undervalued players he believes teams should target going into free agency, and what Luka Doncic and the Mavs need to do to not only make it back to the Finals, but to win it all (42:35). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss their frustration with Luka Doncic, who fouled out in Game 3, and the ripple effect his fouling out caused (01:25). Would the Mavs have won if he didn’t foul out? Would a Mavs Game 3 win have completely flipped the series? They also discuss how Jaylen Brown’s impressive improvement should be a blueprint for Luka to get better, give credit to Brad Stevens for building out this type of roster, and share their hope for a Game 5 on Monday night. Next, Verno shares his experience working with Jerry West during his time with the Grizzlies and explains how his tortured Finals losses helped shape the NBA during successful runs in NBA front offices (49:48). Lastly, the guys debate whether JJ Redick will be the next Lakers head coach and get into some brief draft talk (59:14). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As the Finals shift to Dallas for Game 3, Verno and KOC discuss how the Celtics have been able to exploit the Mavericks' defensive weaknesses, as well as limit their offensive production en route to a 2-0 series lead (01:24). They also discuss the impact of Kristaps Porzingis, Kyrie Irving's struggles, Luka Doncic's need to produce some of his signature magic, as well as Jayson Tatum’s poor shooting but effective playmaking and defense. Next, the guys debate whether Dan Hurley just used the Lakers' offer as leverage and the undesirable position Hurley's rejection has put the Lakers in (44:26). The guys finish off the show by discussing the odd athletic measurables of the potential top pick, Zaccharie Risacher (57:26). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC react to the Celtics' Game 1 blowout victory, as they take a 1-0 series lead in the Finals (01:54). They discuss Kristaps Porzingis's dominant return, how the Celtics defense dramatically affected the Mavs offense, shot-quality numbers, expectations for how the Mavs can respond, and more takeaways from Game 1. Next, the guys dive into the latest rumors involving the Lakers' head coaching search that now includes UConn’s Dan Hurley (38:32). Can the Lakers offer Hurley enough to make the jump to the NBA? How would this affect LeBron James’s situation? And how would his potential jump affect the college basketball world? The NBA had their scouting combine in Italy, as they guys finish off the show debating whether international prospect Nikola Topic’s ACL injury will impact his draft stock, as well as some more draft talk (55:51). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ahead of the Finals, Verno and KOC have a rendition of everyone’s favorite game: That’s True, That Might Be True, That’s Ridiculous (01:09)! They discuss various topics regarding the Finals, including Kristaps Porzingis’s health issues, the Mavs' defensive strategies, Luka’s first Finals appearance, and Jayson Tatum. They also give their predictions for the series. The guys then dive into some draft talk and discuss the vast parity that is currently in the league, as this season will have the sixth consecutive different champion. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC congratulate the Dallas Mavericks as they beat the Timberwolves and advance to the Finals to face the Celtics (01:07). They discuss Luka Doncic’s brilliant Game 5 performance, and give credit to Mavs GM Nico Harrison for finally building the right roster around Luka. Next, they debate what the future holds for the Timberwolves, as they are nearing the second luxury tax apron and will face several restrictions when it comes to improving the team (18:08). Do they run it back? Or will they look to make a trade and retool for next season? Also, the guys answer what lessons can be learned from the impact that Dereck Lively II has made with the Mavs (43:47). Lastly, the guys talk about prospects who are going to return for another season in college, and how NIL has completely changed the game when it comes to prospects deciding to go pro (51:50). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Celtics' comeback win as they sweep the Pacers and move on to the NBA Finals (00:55). They dive into why the Celtics have been so successful with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, as well as what the sweep means from the Pacers' perspective. Next, they discuss the potential sweep in the West, as the Mavs look to finish the Timberwolves and advance to the Finals (25:27). The guys discuss the Mavs' terrific defense on Anthony Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns all series long, as well as Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving’s clutch minutes. Lastly, the guys share stories about Hall of Famer Bill Walton, who passed away on Monday (46:08). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the absolute stomping of the Pacers by the Celtics as Boston takes a 2-0 series lead (01:00). They debate whether the Pacers stand any chance of coming back without Tyrese Haliburton, who left Game 2 with an injury, and discuss Jaylen Brown’s performance after he was snubbed for an All-NBA team. Moving on, they discuss how the Mavs defense was able to restrain Anthony Edwards to take Game 1 (23:48). They discuss the Timberwolves’ defensive strategies and whether Chris Finch needs to make some adjustments, as well as Rudy Gobert’s overall impact. Also, the guys share their reaction to the All-NBA teams, J. B. Bickerstaff’s firing, and whether Trajan Langdon can bring some much-needed stability to the Pistons' front office (48:26). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The conference finals are finally here, as Verno and KOC break down how the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets in Denver to reach the Western Conference finals (01:23). Now that the Nuggets are eliminated, the guys go through what they should prioritize this offseason in order to remain competitive in the rapidly growing West. Next, the guys dive into the Thunder’s weakness in the middle that was exposed in their series against the Mavs, and debate whether Zach Edey can be the missing piece (25:20). Also, they preview what expects to be a competitive series between the Wolves and Mavs, debate whether the Pacers can make the Eastern Conference finals interesting against the Celtics, and applaud this year’s rookie class after the league announced its All-Rookie teams (41:18). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Game 6 blowout win from the Timberwolves, as they force a Game 7 on Sunday in Denver (01:18). They then move on to tonight’s Game 6 between the Knicks and Pacers before discussing the Cavs' future after they got eliminated by the Celtics (23:14). Also, the guys debate whether the Thunder can push for a Game 7 against the Mavs and KOC shares his experience watching Dead & Company at the Sphere (42:42). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Kevin immediately react to the Thunder’s comeback win against the Mavericks to tie the series at 2-2 (1:17). They discuss Luka Doncic’s current status, and who will win the series (5:24). Then, they discuss the Celtics' win over the Cavaliers to take a commanding 3-1 lead (22:52). Later, they compare the Knicks and Pacers’ benches and the difference it can make in their series (27:58). And then, they debate whether Anthony Edwards could have scored even more points to lift the Timberwolves over the Nuggets in Game 4 (41:06). Last, they close the show discussing the results of the NBA draft lottery (52:30). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ ChrisVernonShow and @ KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Brian H. Waters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss PJ Washington’s performance in the Mavs' Game 2 win over the Thunder to tie the series (01:13). They also discuss Kyrie Irving’s impact, the Mavs defense, as well as Josh Giddey becoming close to unplayable. They then move on to the Cavs, who tied their series with the Celtics after the getting the best version of Evan Mobley, and also discuss why the Jayson Tatum-Jaylen Brown era Celtics have been extremely inconsistent in the playoffs (20:34). Next, the guys discuss their excitement for the pair of Game 3s between Knicks-Pacers and Nuggets-Timberwolves (41:37). Can the Knicks continue to play at this fast pace? How will Nikola Jokic respond after winning his third MVP? Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC go through the Timberwolves blowing out the Nuggets to take a 2-0 series lead (01:03). They discuss the Wolves stingy defense on Jamal Murray, Chris Finch’s shortened bench, and debate whether the Nuggets stand any chance to come back. The Knicks were lucky to escape with a Game 1 victory against the Pacers, and the guys debate whether the remainder of the series will be just as competitive, and if Tom Thibodeau can sustain playing his starters extended minutes (31:34). Also, they discuss Donovan Mitchell’s importance to the Cavs as they move on to face the Celtics, as well as share their excitement for the Thunder-Mavs series (45:29). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC go through Thursday night’s set of elimination games, starting with the Knicks surviving the 76ers and advancing to the next round (01:07). They debate who’ll get the blame in Philadelphia (other than Tobais Harris), how Jalen Brunson remains vastly underrated despite putting up Steph Curry-like numbers, and why Tyrese Maxey’s emergence is enough to keep Joel Embiid around for at least one more season. They then move on to the Pacers eliminating the Bucks, preview Game 6 between the Mavs and Clippers, and their wish for a Game 7 in the Cavs-Magic series (27:54). They last share their excitement for the Nuggets-Timberwolves series to begin this weekend (50:03). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC recap Monday night's slate of playoff basketball, starting with another Jamal Murray game-winning shot for the Nuggets, who eliminate the Lakers (01:06). They discuss Murray’s rise as a playoff performer and debate what the future holds for the Lakers, as well as for LeBron James. While the Lakers avoided a sweep, the Suns weren’t so lucky, as the guys discuss Anthony Edwards’s rise to superstar status while determining what’s next for the Suns (15:50). Also, they discuss the Thunder's dominance over the Pelicans in their sweep, and the impact of possibly losing Kristaps Porzingis for the Celtics (27:16). The guys discuss how impressive Jalen Brunson was in the Knicks' Game 4 win over the Sixers, as well as Joel Embiid continuing his poor postseason play (44:05). Next, the guys debate the Bucks' future as they are in a 3-1 hole to the Pacers, and discuss how the Magic defense has completely blanked the Cavs (01:03:57). Lastly, they discuss the awesome Clippers-Mavs game from over the weekend, and preview Game 5 scheduled for Wednesday night (01:20:47). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC recap Thursday night’s slate of playoff basketball, starting with the Nuggets' 11th straight win over the Lakers (01:13). With the Lakers in an 0-3 hole again, the guys discuss what the future holds for LeBron James and the team. They next discuss how the Magic and 76ers were able to win their Game 3 matchups against the Cavs and Knicks (24:10). The guys move on to preview Friday’s night games, starting with Bucks-Pacers, before moving on to Mavs-Clippers (46:28). After going down 0-2, are the Suns just completely outmatched against the Timberwolves (01:12:09)? Also, did the Heat find the formula to beat the Celtics? Plus, why the Thunder are primed for a deep playoff run (01:28:17). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC go through all the playoff matchups from Monday night, starting off with Jamal Murray’s game-winning shot to put the Nuggets up 2-0 over the Lakers (01:26). Next, they discuss how the Knicks were able to grind out a victory over Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey, and the Sixers (14:06). Also, the guys discuss what makes the Cavs a little different this year, and debate how far the Timberwolves can go with this version of Anthony Edwards (30:06). They then discuss why Khris Middleton is pivotal for the Bucks' success, what the key difference is in the Mavs-Clippers series, and debate whether the Pelicans can truly challenge the Thunder (48:12). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC share what they enjoyed the most from KOC’s interview with Victor Wembanyama before turning their attention to the play-in games from earlier this week (01:29). They discuss their disappointment with Zion Williamson's injury and Brandon Ingram’s performance in the Pelicans' loss to the Lakers, as well as their surprise at the Kings easily defeating the Warriors (10:16). Do the Lakers stand any chance to upset the Nuggets? How far can the inexperienced Thunder go? The guys debate whether Joel Embiid can bounce back to his MVP form against the Knicks (38:48). Also, they discuss the hideous performance from the Hawks, Coby White’s huge game for the Bulls, the Heat’s chances without Jimmy Butler, and more (47:09). You can find KOC’s interview with Victor Wembanyama here. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC open the episode by briefly teasing KOC’s interview with Victor Wembanyama (01:52). They then turn their attention to the playoff matchups, as well as this week’s play-in tournament (13:20). Should the Lakers lose on purpose to avoid the Nuggets in the first round? Do the Timberwolves stand any chance against the Suns? They debate this and look at the other playoff series in the West. Also, while looking at the East, the guys discuss which teams are in the best positions to make a run (35:17). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC open up the episode by discussing Stephon Castle’s rise to no. 1 on KOC’s draft board (01:36). Next, they dive into everyone’s favorite segment: "That’s True, That Might Be True, That’s Ridiculous" (10:25). They discuss Jrue Holiday’s extension with the Celtics, debate whether this will be the last year we see Trae Young in a Hawks uniform, Luka Doncic’s MVP chances, how much pressure is on the Suns, and so much more. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please checkout rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss last night’s national championship game, which saw UConn continue its dominance against Purdue as it secured back-to-back titles (01:07). They share their thoughts on watching basketball games at football stadiums, KOC's updated draft stock for Donovan Clingan and Zach Edey, the most obvious team for Clingan, and Tristen Newton’s NBA potential. With the season nearing its end, the guys discuss which playoff matchups they want to see the most in both conferences (30:51). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the 76ers' impressive win over the Heat (01:30). How deep of a run can the Sixers make with the returns of Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxey? They then turn their attention to the Bucks and debate whether they can still make a Finals run despite their struggles (14:46). Also, the guys discuss how far the Knicks can go now that Julius Randle is confirmed out for the season (24:01). Next, they discuss the Warriors' huge win over the Rockets, as well as their excitement for this weekend’s Final Four (33:14). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC recap last night's slate of games, beginning with the Suns as Devin Booker goes off against the Pelicans (01:47). Luka Doncic has the Mavs riding high as the guys debate whether they are the scariest team headed into the playoffs (05:46). As the Celtics continue to dominate the regular season, the guys debate who is going to be the key bench player for their playoff success (15:40). Josh Hart doesn't sound too optimistic about the Knicks’ health issues (24:03). Also, how close is Joel Embiid to returning (35:23)? Last, the guys discuss which prospects’ draft stock rose and fell over this weekend’s Elite Eight games (42:34). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC go through last night’s slate of Sweet 16 games and discuss which players' draft stock rose (01:33). After the Pelicans beat the Bucks, the guys debate just how high their ceiling is with Zion playing at this level (14:00). Next, they discuss the Hawks' OT win over the Celtics and debate what is going to happen with Dejounte Murray and Trae Young, as well as Tom Haberstroh’s latest report suggesting that Jaylen Brown is a better clutch performer than Jayson Tatum (22:38). They also discuss the Lakers' five-game winning streak, Joel Embiid’s potential return, and the Timberwolves' ownership mess (35:31). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the NBA’s investigation into Jontay Porter after multiple instances of "betting irregularities" were discovered and debate the type of punishment the NBA should hand down (01:20). After this weekend’s March Madness games, they discuss the draft stock of Kentucky’s Reed Sheppard, UConn’s Donovan Clingan, Marquette’s Tyler Kolek, and more (19:32). While there are no franchise cornerstones in this draft class, the guys explain why the prospects in this class can still make a big impact (37:15). Next, they discuss Jalen Green’s performance during the Rockets' nine-game winning streak and Draymond Green’s huge defensive impact for the Warriors. Then, they debate whether the Clippers are frauds and whether Domantas Sabonis can continue this type of play into the playoffs (42:27). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss how the NCAA tournament can greatly impact the draft stocks for prospects and highlight a few of the prospects participating, including Purdue’s Zach Edey, Colorado’s Cody Williams, North Carolina’s Elliot Cadeau, and more (01:34). Next, the guys each select four players they are keeping a close eye on with just a few weeks left in the regular season (23:34). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss how the Thunder’s organic team chemistry has led to their success this year (03:04). The guys react to Kyrie Irving’s game-winner over the weekend before taking a hard look at the Suns after losing to the Giannis-less Bucks (19:59). Also, was Alperen Sengun holding back Jalen Green (33:56)? Finally, the guys discuss how important OG Anunoby is to the Knicks and share their excitement for the NCAA tournament to begin (45:06). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Al Horford and Jaylen Brown’s performance in last night’s Celtics win over the Suns (01:48). Is Brown quietly becoming the new leader in Boston? Next, the guys dive into Tom Haberstroh and Ethan Strauss’s recent reporting about how officiating has changed and the lack of fouls being called in games (23:05). The guys speculate about whether this is something Adam Silver has quietly done to improve the game for potential future broadcast partners and whether this could lead to more rule changes down the line. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With just over a month left in the regular season, Verno and KOC discuss their levels of belief in all of the potential playoff teams in each conference. They start off in the East (02:45) before turning their attention to the West (37:51). Also, with KOC’s NBA Draft Guide launching and the March Madness tournament starting up, the guys dive into some draft talk and discuss a few prospects they like (01:09:10). You can find KOC’s Draft Guide here. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC start with the highly anticipated matchup between the Nuggets and Celtics, which saw the Nuggets sweep the season series. They discussed what this matchup could look like in the Finals, how to guard Denver, and more. Then, they discuss some of the other close games from Thursday night, including Luka getting another 35-point triple-double (18:30), Anthony Edwards exploding for 44 points and a game-saving block (21:27), and the Bulls upsetting the Warriors (40:29). Then, they quickly check in on the top draft prospects and guys to watch with conference tournaments beginning and March Madness starting soon(45:20). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @‌ChrisVernonShow_ and @‌_KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Bucks’ impressive win over the Clippers, despite being without Giannis (01:42). Dame showed us he still has some of his Portland magic as the Clippers continue to slide. The Celtics are riding high after completely blowing out the Warriors over the weekend, extending their win streak to 11. The guys then preview the Celtics’ highly anticipated Thursday night matchup against the Nuggets (20:39). After losing to the Lakers, the guys debate whether the Thunder can match their size if the two meet in the playoffs again. Plus, there is discussion of who will win the Defensive Player of the Year award (32:05). The guys also get into how Gary Harris’s shooting is impacting the Magic, why you should still be wary about the Heat, and the Kings’ fourth-quarter meltdown against the Bulls (48:48). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC break down what could be the next great NBA rivalry between the Spurs and Thunder with Chet Holmgren and Victor Wembanyama (01:50). They dive into how special these rookies are and why the future's so bright for both. With Andrew Wiggins away from the Warriors, Moses Moody slides into the starting lineup—the guys explain why this move could be beneficial for the team down the stretch (14:28). With the no. 5 and no. 10 seeds separated by only 3.5 games in the West, the guys debate which teams have the best chance to secure the guaranteed playoff spot and avoid the play-in (28:38). Also, KOC explains what Doc Rivers has done to fix the Bucks defense and discusses Joel Embiid's plan to return to the Sixers this season (37:00). You can read KOC’s article about Doc and the Bucks here. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the wild ending to the Knicks-Pistons game, as well as the weird state of the Nets franchise (01:19). Trae Young had surgery and is expected to miss four weeks, and the guys explain why the Hawks could use this time to evaluate their future (12:36). Also, they discuss how well Jaime Jaquez Jr. has performed this season, KOC’s experience watching the UCLA-USC basketball game over the weekend, and the unparalleled success of Kentucky guards in the league (20:09). The guys examine Victor Wembanyama’s extraordinary rookie season and explain why he is already destined to become one of the all-time greats (46:45). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are back from the All-Star break and they each name the three teams they are most interested in as teams gear up for the playoff push (08:48). Is this the best Mavs team that Luka Doncic has had? Are the Warriors starting to figure things out? Is Russell Westbrook going to hold the Clippers back from winning it all? The guys discuss all this and more. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout http://theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Grizzlies' upset win over the Bucks as well as Klay Thompson’s hot performance after getting benched (00:24). Next, they have a leaguewide check-in entering the All-Star break, starting off with all the noise surrounding the Warriors after it was reported that they looked into LeBron James's availability (25:05). They debate whether Victor Wembanyama is a top-20 player (39:00), wonder how far the 76ers could fall in the standings (01:04:01), discuss what they are looking forward to in this weekend’s All-Star game festivities (01:11:20), and so much more. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC begin the show by talking about the games they attended last night, starting with the Timberwolves' victory over the Clippers. Then they discuss the Pelicans' win over the Grizzlies (12:31). Next they talk about what kind of statement the Bucks made with their win over the Nuggets (18:40). After that, they talk about a few other notable results and performances, specifically from a handful of rookies (39:16), before wrapping up by giving their reactions to the second MVP straw poll results (55:17). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss a mediocre NBA trade deadline that saw no real impactful moves made. They go through the winners of the deadline, including the Knicks and Mavericks, as well as their disappointment with the Lakers and Warriors for not making any moves (08:40). Next, they discuss what kind of impact Gordon Hayward will have with the Thunder, and debate whether Oklahoma City can make a Finals run (24:35). Also, they discuss what Royce O'Neale brings to the Suns, Xavier Tillman’s fit with Boston, and other smaller deadline deals (38:07). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC go through KOC’s recent article (found here) and discuss the 76ers' next move after Joel Embiid’s injury, whether the Hawks should consider trading Trae Young instead of Dejounte Murray, LeBron’s pressure on the Lakers, and so much more (02:02). With the trade deadline this week, the guys discuss some of the names that are rumored to be moving, including Grant Williams (44:08). Also, Verno discusses what he likes from prospect Matas Buzelis after watching him play in person, and KOC shares his experience testing out the new Apple Vision Pro headset (52:29). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the selection of the All-Star reserves, starting in the East with the Knicks’ Jalen Brunson, before moving on to discuss Joel Embiid’s injury and what it means for the 76ers (01:25). The guys discuss the snubs in the West and debate what changes can be made to accommodate the most worthy players (28:23). Also, the clock is ticking for LeBron James and the Lakers, and the guys debate what the right move is for both (39:26). Read KOC’s article about LeBron and the Lakers here. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet at @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Doc Rivers’s debut coaching the Bucks, explain why Paolo Banchero will eventually be a top-five player in the league, as well as the Timberwolves' impressive win over the Thunder (03:24). As the Heat losing streak hits seven, the guys debate whether another move is inevitable, and discuss what Julius Randle’s injury means for the Knicks (19:50). Also, are the Cavs really starting to turn the corner? After Luka Doncic scored 73 points over the weekend, the guys debate if the high scoring offenses from the modern NBA are good or bad for the future of the league (41:08). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the Heat’s recent skid, losing five straight; OG Anunoby’s impact with the Knicks after blowing out the Nuggets; and the Pacers' impressive win over the 76ers despite not having Tyrese Haliburton (03:25). Next, everyone’s favorite game: That’s True, That Might Be True, or That’s Ridiculous (12:44)! They discuss LeBron’s 20 All-Star game appearances, Doc Rivers to the Bucks, this year's Olympic team, and, of course, Bill Belichick. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Joel Embiid’s dominant 70-point performance against the Spurs, and debate what the Sixers need to fully capitalize on Embiid’s monster season (01:05). Despite a 62-point effort from Karl-Anthony Towns, the Timberwolves lost to the Hornets as the guys explain why this loss highlights what Minnesota needs the most (19:25). Also, after winning eight straight, are the Cavs among the true contenders in the East (30:03)? If they continue to win without Evan Mobley or Darius Garland, would Cleveland entertain trade offers for either player? The guys then discuss the Bucks' interest in Dejounte Murray, the importance of the next two weeks of the season, and why you should be paying attention to the Knicks (38:27). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC react to Pascal Siakam finally being traded to the Pacers to team up with Tyrese Haliburton (03:15). They break down the trade from both sides, discuss Siakam’s fit with the Pacers, debate whether the Raptors will flip Bruce Brown, and so much more. Now that we’ve hit the midpoint of the season, the guys take a look at the overall standings, as well as the championship odds, to debate which teams have the best chances to reach the Finals (25:37). Next, they take a look at the awards odds and discuss which players are ranked properly and which are too low (40:40). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at [email protected]! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out http://theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices