The Mark Moss Show

When the dollar breaks. Assets you think are the safest don't protect you. They fail first. And that's not a theory. It's how every monetary system in history actually unravels. So I want to show you how people actually lose wealth in sovereign debt crisis, why so-called safe assets turn into traps, and why this time looks nothing like 2008.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

While the whole world is watching Iran right now. Something happened this week that most people completely missed. Trump publicly went to war with the banks. And I don't mean metaphorically. I mean he called them out by name. And the reason why this matters to you is simple. The outcome of this fight will determine which side of the biggest wealth transfer of our lifetime you end up on.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Scott Melker, trader, analyst, and host of The Wolf of All Streets, joins Mark Moss to break down why Bitcoin’s recent drawdown doesn’t mean the 4-year cycle is dead — it means investors are using the wrong model. With years of market experience across traditional finance and crypto, Scott brings a grounded perspective on volatility, liquidity, and structural shifts in the market. In this conversation, we unpack why narratives follow price, how leverage and options markets reshape volatility, whether Wall Street is suppressing Bitcoin, and why retail never truly showed up this cycle. Scott explains why he’s buying aggressively into fear and what investors consistently misunderstand about cycle tops and bottoms.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Most people look at Bitcoin and ask a very simple question like does it win or does it fail? Which sounds logical, but that's not how serious investors think, because markets don't operate in a yes or no. They operate in probabilities. And when outcomes are uncertain, when the stakes are high and the information is incomplete, the smartest decision makers in the world don't think in binaries either.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Eric Weiss, veteran crypto investor and co-founder of Blockchain Investment Group, joins Mark Moss to explain why this market cycle feels different and what has actually changed beneath the surface. Drawing on experience across multiple Bitcoin and macro cycles, Eric breaks down how incentives, leverage, and institutional structure now shape outcomes more than narratives. In this conversation, we unpack how new layers of regulation and leverage alter risk, why traditional cycle thinking keeps failing, and what investors consistently miss when they say “this time is different.” This discussion will help you understand how to navigate markets as the rules quietly shift. Get setup with Unchained at https://www.unchained.com/markmoss and use code MOSS10 to get 10% off. If you’re ready to build your Bitcoin position with confidence, go to https://www.river.com/markmoss to sign up and get up to $100 in free Bitcoin. Use my code: MARKMOSS at https://2026.b.tc to get 10% off of your Bitcoin Vegas tickets and join me for an exclusive after party.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is the biggest financial mistake homeowners make, and most people lock it in for decades without ever questioning it. Now, paying off your home feels like the responsible move. It feels like security. But what if that feeling is costing you far more than you realize when you pay off your house? What exactly are you winning?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Marty Bent, longtime Bitcoin commentator and host of TFTC, joins Mark Moss to explain why prices are no longer set by markets — but by policy. From energy and housing to Bitcoin and stablecoins, Marty breaks down how regulation, political incentives, and centralized control are distorting prices, locking in inflation, and making “cheap again” a fantasy. This conversation connects the dots between policy, price signals, and why Bitcoin continues to matter in a world where markets are being replaced.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Larry Lepard, veteran investor, author of The Big Print, and leading voice on sound money, joins Mark Moss to explain why the Federal Reserve is trapped. With debt surging and political pressure mounting, Larry breaks down why money printing isn’t a choice — it’s the only path left. In this conversation, we explore how the bond market truly dictates Fed policy, why high interest rates are unsustainable, and how fiat systems historically end. Larry explains where capital moves next and what this moment means for protecting wealth in a system with no clean exit.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Everyone has heard of MicroStrategy “buying Bitcoin,” but almost nobody understands the real cheat code—they didn’t just buy, they re-engineered their balance sheet. That’s the unlock: you can run your personal finances like a company treasury. This flips the script: instead of saving scraps and hoping your 401k grows, you design a capital stack like Saylor—equity, debt, and base-layer Bitcoin. Suddenly, you’re not just surviving inflation, you’re weaponizing it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Yaron Brook, Chairman of the Ayn Rand Institute and one of the most prominent defenders of free markets and rational capitalism, joins the show to break down a risk most investors aren’t even thinking about: large-scale irrationality. As a longtime thinker on economics, philosophy, and moral foundations of markets, Yaron explains why markets don’t fail because of math or data — they fail when societies abandon reason. In this conversation, we explore why markets struggle to price irrational behavior, how emotional politics and socialism distort incentives, and why regulation, not capitalism, is behind many of today’s economic breakdowns. Yaron explains how free markets actually correct irrationality over time, why capitalism is still the greatest poverty-destroying force in history, and what individuals can do to protect themselves, stay productive, and navigate an increasingly irrational system — and what it all means for freedom, prosperity, and the future of the financial system.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Time is running out. And I don't mean in some dramatic into the world way. I mean, structurally, we're headed into a reset window between now and 2030 that will permanently separate families who planned from families who didn't. The truth is that most people don't fail because they didn't work hard enough. They fail because they never built the right system.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Simon Dixon, CEO of BNK to the Future and one of the earliest investors and thinkers in Bitcoin, joins Mark Moss to unpack how power, money, and control really operate behind the scenes. With decades of experience in traditional banking, fintech, Bitcoin, and speaking at Bitcoin conferences as early as 2011 — Simon brings a rare insider’s perspective on how financial systems evolve, fail, and adapt when they’re threatened. In this conversation, Simon explains how Bitcoin disrupts the existing power structure, why volatility is often manufactured by leverage and institutional incentives, and how Wall Street’s relationship with Bitcoin quietly shifted from opposition to adoption. We explore the intersection of banking, geopolitics, debt, and digital assets, and why understanding these forces is critical for protecting wealth, sovereignty, and freedom as the financial system continues to transform.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

People say Bitcoin is too volatile — and looking at today’s price action, that sounds fair. Bitcoin’s down more than 30%, fear is everywhere, and calls for another crash are getting louder. But what if Bitcoin’s volatility isn’t the problem at all? What if misunderstanding that volatility is the real reason people keep losing money every cycle?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ben Perrin, founder of BTC Sessions and one of the most trusted voices in Bitcoin self-custody, joins Mark Moss to break down the biggest risk facing Bitcoin holders today and it has nothing to do with price, regulation, or market crashes. In this conversation, we unpack why ETFs and custodians miss the point of Bitcoin, how self-sovereignty actually works in practice, the real dangers of custody, coercion, and privacy leaks, and what it takes to protect your Bitcoin for generations. From inheritance planning and multisig to real-world threats and everyday best practices, this episode lays out what it truly means to own your money — and why that matters as the financial system continues to change.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mel Mattison, founder of Mott Capital Management and a veteran market strategist known for his deep focus on liquidity, positioning, and market structure, joins Mark Moss to challenge the most crowded narrative in finance today. While headlines scream crash and recession, Mel explains why markets often do the opposite of what everyone expects and how ignoring sentiment in favor of liquidity and balance sheets can reveal what’s really coming next. In this conversation, we break down why fear is already priced in, how liquidity quietly drives melt-ups, why positioning matters more than headlines, and how investors keep getting trapped by the same emotional cycles. Mel walks through what history teaches us about crowded trades, why crashes rarely happen when everyone is braced for them, and what this environment means for stocks, assets, and capital allocation. This is about understanding how markets actually move and what it means for protecting and growing wealth when consensus gets it wrong.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2026 is not just another year. It’s the beginning of what I believe will be the biggest wealth window of the next four years. Maybe the next decade. But here’s the truth — most people will miss it. Not because of timing… Not because of money… But because they don’t have the capacity or the systems to take advantage of the opportunity.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dhruv Bansal, co-founder of *Unchained Capital* and one of Bitcoin’s most original thinkers, joins Mark Moss to reveal how Bitcoin is evolving far beyond money. Known for his work on multisig, security, and Bitcoin’s deeper architecture, Dhruv explains how each layer of Bitcoin unlocks entirely new behaviors creating “beautiful surprises” that connect money, communication, time, and intelligence into a single operating system. In this conversation, the two break down how **a new digital ecosystem is forming from Bitcoin**, where markets build themselves through incentives, and where **AI agents, data, and human coordination all converge on Bitcoin’s trustless foundation**. Dhruv shows how Bitcoin is becoming the substrate for new networks, new incentives, new forms of digital life, and what this transformation means for freedom, innovation, and the future of the internet.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Most people think that Bitcoin is just having another huge drawdown or it's the start of the four year cycle drawdown. But the truth is it's way bigger. There's a hidden war that's begun between the old financial system and the new one. And the crazy part is that almost nobody sees what's really happening because the headlines, they're all screaming about price volatility.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Matt Prusak, Chief Commercial Officer at Hut 8 Mining, joins Mark Moss to explore how America’s next economic revolution is being built on the Bitcoin standard. From Trump-linked projects to the energy infrastructure boom sweeping across the U.S., this conversation reveals how Bitcoin mining is fusing finance, industry, and freedom. They unpack why capital is leaving real estate for Bitcoin, how energy independence and sound money are converging, and why the Bitcoin standard could rebuild American prosperity from the ground up. This is the blueprint for America’s new era of growth, power, and sovereignty.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chris Sullivan, hedge fund manager and co-founder of Hyperion Decimus, joins Mark Moss to expose how the modern financial system quietly stripped away real ownership—and why Bitcoin may be the only asset that gives it back. With decades of experience in traditional markets, Chris breaks down how “custody chains” and legal dematerialization turned investors into creditors, setting the stage for a system where we own nothing directly. In this episode, we uncover how tokenization, regulation, and institutional capture reinforce that illusion of ownership, why the debt-based system is reaching its breaking point, and how Bitcoin stands apart as a bearer asset that restores control, transparency, and sovereignty. Chris explains why he believes Bitcoin is “the embodiment of the Bill of Rights in technological form,” and what this shift means for wealth, freedom, and the future of money.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you've ever wondered why you're still not rich. Even though you work hard, you save money. You do everything you're told to do. This video will show you exactly why. And even better, it's going to show you how to fix this without having to work harder, without having to work longer. Because wealth doesn't just happen.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Natalie Brunell, Emmy Award–winning journalist and host of the “Coin Stories” podcast, joins to explore how Bitcoin is reviving the core values behind the American Dream. Born in communist Poland and raised in the U.S. by immigrant parents who lost everything during the 2008 financial crisis, Natalie’s journey from mainstream media to Bitcoin advocacy reveals a deeply personal quest for truth, freedom, and financial sovereignty. In this conversation, we unpack how the erosion of sound money has undermined upward mobility for millions of Americans, why hope and opportunity are fading under an inflationary system, and how Bitcoin offers a path back to integrity, meritocracy, and self-determination. Natalie shares how her family’s experience with economic collapse shaped her conviction that Bitcoin can restore trust in capitalism, empower individuals over institutions, and reignite the spirit of the American Dream for a new generation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

00:00 The Real Reason Bitcoin Is Falling 02:45 Liquidity Vanishes Across All Markets 06:55 The 10/10 Event Breaks Market Structure 11:40 A Forced Seller Dumps Every Morning 14:10 Fundamentals Hit All-Time Strength 16:40 When the Selling Ends and Liquidity Returns 18:10 What You Should Actually Do NowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Colonel Douglas Macgregor, retired U.S. Army Colonel, military strategist, and former Senior Advisor to the Secretary of Defense, joins Mark Moss to deliver a sobering assessment of America’s position in the world. With decades of experience inside the Pentagon and on the battlefield, Macgregor explains why endless wars, financial exhaustion, and strategic overreach have pushed the United States to a historic inflection point — one most policymakers still refuse to acknowledge. In this conversation, we break down the real state of the Ukraine war, why NATO and U.S. military readiness are far weaker than advertised, how debt and money printing quietly fund modern warfare, and why the global order is shifting away from American dominance. Macgregor lays out what this transition means for power, capital, and security — and why understanding these forces is critical for anyone trying to protect their wealth, freedom, and future in a rapidly changing world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

00:00 The Illusion of Record High Markets 03:10 The Dollar as a Broken Yardstick 06:55 Currency Collapses Leave Clues 09:38 How the Imperial Carry Trade Works 12:45 Measuring Markets in Gold and Bitcoin 16:50 The Global Unit of Account Is Fracturing 19:40 How to Position for the TransitionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Michael Saylor, founder and executive chairman of MicroStrategy, returns to explain how Bitcoin is transforming global capital markets and redefining the future of wealth creation. Drawing from his background in science and engineering, Saylor breaks down how Bitcoin’s architecture merges technology, economics, and mathematics to create the first truly engineered form of sound money — one that’s reshaping corporate finance, investment strategy, and even national policy. In this conversation, we explore why legacy finance is structurally unsustainable, how overcollateralized digital credit could replace sovereign debt, and why Bitcoin’s “refinery model” may ignite a new era of capital efficiency. Saylor details the evolution from digital gold to digital credit, how MicroStrategy’s innovations are setting the blueprint for Bitcoin-backed balance sheets, and why governments, banks, and investors will ultimately be forced to adopt Bitcoin as the foundation of a new global financial system.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2026 is not just another year. It’s the beginning of what I believe will be the biggest wealth window of the next four years. Maybe the next decade. But here’s the truth — most people will miss it. Not because of timing… Not because of money… But because they don’t have the capacity or the systems to take advantage of the opportunity.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Samson Mow, CEO of JAN3 and one of the leading voices driving nation-state Bitcoin adoption, joins to break down why the next phase of Bitcoin’s growth will be led not by individuals—but by governments. From El Salvador’s bold experiment to the quiet shift happening in central banks, Samson reveals how Bitcoin is evolving from a monetary revolution into the foundation for a new global financial order. In this conversation, we dive into why governments need to adopt Bitcoin to restore trust in money, how the geopolitical landscape is shifting as U.S. debt, inflation, and currency wars escalate, and why Bitcoin may soon become the standard of fiscal discipline. Samson also unpacks how the nation-state game theory is accelerating adoption, why resistance from legacy institutions is inevitable, and how Bitcoin can ultimately make governments more accountable—and citizens freer.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Pierre Rochard, VP of Research at Riot Platforms and longtime Bitcoin advocate, joins to explain why Bitcoin’s rise is transforming not only markets but the very foundation of the financial system. From the mechanics of speculative attacks to the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, Pierre reveals how Wall Street adoption, government policy, and sound money principles are colliding to reshape the global order. In this conversation, we explore why the classic 4-year Bitcoin cycle is breaking down, how financialization and leverage are changing the rules of the game, and why Bitcoin’s fundamentals still point to explosive upside. Pierre unpacks the growing role of ETFs, corporate treasuries, and multi-sig custody, while also warning of the political battles ahead—from potential 6102-style risks to the importance of lobbying for Bitcoin’s future. He also dives into how inheritance flows, mining economics, and U.S. fiscal policy will decide who thrives in the next era of Bitcoin adoption—and what it all means for the freedom to control your own money.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The crash everyone’s talking about right now will be worse than 2008… but not in the way almost everyone thinks it’s going to happen. See, the media is bracing you for another housing collapse or a stock market wipeout — but that’s not the real danger. This time, the bubble isn’t in real estate or banks… It’s in a completely different sector that no one is watching — and when it pops, the crash effects will be nothing like what most people are preparing for.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jamie Coutts, Chief Crypto Analyst at Real Vision, joins to break down why Bitcoin’s current bull market looks nothing like the cycles of the past — and what that means for investors navigating the storm ahead. From shifting liquidity regimes to the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, Jamie reveals how debt, deficits, and central bank policy are reshaping crypto’s place in the global financial system. In this conversation, we dig into why the classic 4-year cycle is breaking down, how fiscal dominance is rewriting the rules of markets, and why Bitcoin’s next explosive volatility may decide the winners and losers of the treasury “arms race.” Jamie also explains where Ethereum and other large-cap cryptos fit into this moment, and what the battle between Trump, Powell, and global liquidity means for the future of money.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tom Luongo, publisher of Gold, Goats ‘n Guns, joins to reveal why today’s global chaos isn’t random — it’s the deliberate strategy of elites fighting to preserve their power. From collapsing currencies to radicalization on the streets, Tom explains how history’s cycles of debt, war, and money printing are converging into an 80-year reckoning. In this conversation, we explore why “when money dies, radicalization rises,” how central banks weaponize disorder to maintain control, and why the dollar’s accelerating death spiral could reshape sovereignty worldwide. Tom also shares his outlook on Bitcoin’s role in the storm ahead, and the choices nations and individuals must make as the old financial order unravels.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brandon Quittem, author and longtime Bitcoiner, joins to unpack why Bitcoin isn’t just an asset but the foundation of a new financial system — and why treasury companies like MicroStrategy may be the most fascinating story in corporate finance in a generation. From Bitcoin’s correlation to global liquidity cycles to the rise of Bitcoin-powered securities, Brandon explains how capital trapped in legacy mandates is being unlocked and funneled into BTC. In this conversation, we dive into the difference between pure-play Bitcoin treasuries and operating companies, and how volatility itself becomes a feature, not a bug. Brandon also explores whether these new Bitcoin corporations can outperform BTC over the next five years, the risks of “Ponzi-adjacent” upstarts, and why the very metrics we use to evaluate companies are being rewritten in the Bitcoin era.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wealth isn't earned; it's engineered. Join me Jan 7-9 for 3 days where we'll be engineering your complete Wealth Operating System, live, with hands-on tools, custom worksheets, and real-time coaching from me and my team. I wish I would've gone to something like this earlier. Can't wait to see you there 👉 https://go.1markmoss.com/mmyt3 There's the Thanksgiving story, you know, and then there's a major part of the story that you don't. And now, for 28 years, on Thanksgiving Day, radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, he read part of this Thanksgiving story. It's been about four years since he's died. And I think it's time for me to bring it back, because most people have no idea how close the pilgrims came to failing. And the reason why is nothing like the version that you learned in school. And whether you live in America or you live in some other country. This story matters because every nation rises and collapses on the same principle that the pilgrims discovered out of sheer desperation. Now, what happened next didn't just save this starving settlement.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

"They literally CAN'T let a recession happen - and I'm about to show you the mathematical proof that changes everything you think you know about what's coming next. See, everyone's been waiting for the crash for two years now... defensively positioned, sitting in cash, missing out - but what if I told you the Fed is “TRAPPED” ... in a $35 trillion dollar corner where allowing a recession would collapse the entire system?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

CJ Konstantinos, founder of People’s Reserve, joins to explore why the U.S. dollar is trapped in a debt death spiral and why Bitcoin isn’t a competitor to the dollar but its necessary complement. From the dollar’s role as a medium of exchange to Bitcoin’s design as engineered money and absolute digital scarcity, CJ explains how pairing the two could extend the life of the dollar while creating a foundation for sound capital. Drawing from his own experience of buying a home with 100 bitcoin, he unpacks the painful lessons of opportunity cost and why holders need tools to unlock purchasing power without selling their BTC.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aleks Svetski, author of The Bushido of Bitcoin and entrepreneur behind new ventures like Atlantis, returns to explore why capital alone isn’t enough — and why character, virtue, and community must stand alongside money to build a meaningful future. From Bitcoin’s role as a foundation of sound capital to the need for beauty, excellence, and integrity, Aleks unpacks how civilization risks turning into a strip mall when we optimize only for profit. In this conversation, we dive into the balance of capital and character, the rise of borderless living, and the evolution from social networks into engagement farms. Aleks explains why algorithms and cheap capital erode society, and how projects like Atlantis aim to rebuild authentic community in the real world. We also discuss the future of decentralized identity with Noster, the bifurcation of society into creators and consumers, and why this era could mark the most transformative shift in human civilization in centuries.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when $9 trillion in boring 401k money gets permission to chase yield? Because that's about to happen. Trump signing the order. The game is about to change forever. I'm talking about trillions of dollars that have been stuck in losing or low yield in retirement accounts. Now being able to go buy bitcoin or private equity or real estate.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Parker Lewis, renowned Bitcoin thinker and author of the Gradually, Then Suddenly series, joins us to break down why the real economy is broken — and how Bitcoin offers the only viable escape from a system doomed by money printing and ever-growing debt. From the mechanics of volatility to the inevitability of credit collapse, Parker explains why Bitcoin’s fixed supply is the ultimate safeguard for purchasing power, and why most people misunderstand the problem it solves. In this episode, we dig into why money printing distorts price signals, destroys savings, and forces people into imperfect hedges. Parker outlines his three-part framework for understanding Bitcoin: recognizing the problem (monetary debasement), grasping the fundamentals (fixed supply and trustless enforcement), and dismantling common misconceptions (volatility, copyability, criminal use). We explore stablecoins, the “Genius Act,” regulatory capture, and why shifting deck chairs in the dollar system can’t fix the underlying math of debt vs. money supply.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dan Hillery, fund manager and Bitcoin strategist, joins us to break down the next evolution of Bitcoin capital markets: the rise of Bitcoin-native treasury companies engineered to unlock financial leverage with BTC as a base layer. This isn’t just another MicroStrategy clone — it’s a deeper, more sophisticated play. From unsecured convertible notes to preferred shares and fixed-income arbitrage, Dan explains how these companies are disrupting traditional capital formation using Bitcoin as collateral. In this episode, we explore why buying spot Bitcoin is just the beginning — and how the next generation of firms are building scalable, creditworthy businesses around Bitcoin yield, durable capital structures, and strategic issuance. We unpack the mechanics behind NAV premiums, debt leverage, risk profiles, and the shift from equity issuance to fixed-income instruments. Whether you’re a macro investor, a Bitcoiner seeking asymmetric upside, or a curious analyst trying to understand the future of Bitcoin in public markets, this episode maps the frontier of Bitcoin financialization.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Cory Klippsten, founder of Swan Bitcoin, and Ben Werkman, CIO of Swan, join us to break down the next evolution in Bitcoin investing: public companies engineered from the ground up to maximize Bitcoin exposure. This isn’t MicroStrategy 2.0—it’s something entirely new. From Swan’s vertically integrated model to the overlooked opportunities in private credit, Cory and Ben reveal how Bitcoin-native strategies are disrupting traditional finance from the inside out. In this episode, we explore why buying spot Bitcoin is just the beginning—and how Swan is building a full-stack financial institution with Bitcoin as its base layer. We unpack the hidden leverage behind Swan’s business model, the risks and rewards of taking the company public, and what it takes to navigate capital markets while staying true to Bitcoin values. Whether you’re a sovereign individual, fund manager, or curious builder, this episode unlocks the future of Bitcoin capital formation—and the asymmetric edge that Swan is betting everything on.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.