
The Long and The Short Of It
Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman
Show overview
The Long and The Short Of It has been publishing since 2018, and across the 8 years since has built a catalogue of 402 episodes, alongside 3 trailers or bonus episodes. That works out to roughly 130 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a weekly cadence.
Episodes typically run ten to twenty minutes — most land between 17 min and 20 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. It is catalogued as a EN-language Education show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 days ago, with 19 episodes already out so far this year. Published by Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman.
From the publisher
A weekly podcast for curious people ready to explore the art and science of being human from every possible angle: macro, micro, Australian, American, tall, short and everything in between.
Latest Episodes
View all 402 episodes398. The Eisenhower Conundrum
397. Thought Leadership
396. Spring Cleaning
395. Trojan Horsing
394. Sports Teams
393. BHAGs
Ep 392392. Breakfast
This week, Pete and Jen noodle on the importance of storytelling, starting with the story of what they each had for breakfast (or how they might approach a charcuterie board). Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: Why is storytelling within the workplace and as leaders so important? How might you prompt someone else to tell you a story, and how might that help you learn about them? How do heroes, highlights, and hardships show up in the stories we tell and the ways we behave? To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected]. Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 391391. Replaced by AI?
This week, Jen and Pete noodle on the ways that AI cannot replace humans...yet. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: What role do love and care play in the workplace? Why is having a coach important for skill development and growth? How might we incorporate AI into our work, without relying on it? To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected]. Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 390390. Normal
This week, Jen and Pete define (and redefine, and redefine, and redefine) the concept of what it means to be normal. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: What is the relationship between normal and average? When might it be a good thing to be normal? When might it be a good thing to not be normal? How might we push back against normalcy, where we want to be extraordinary? To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected]. Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 389389. Aspirational Prototyping
This week, Jen shares with Pete a new phrase she's coined, in order to turn dreams into aspirational prototypes. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: How might we move inch by inch towards our goal? In what ways might defining the perfect day or week or schedule or calendar be useful to us? What are some different ways to think about the relationships in our lives, our goals for the next ten years, and our overarching dreams of what our reality could be? To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected]. Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 388388. Zone 2
Inspired by another learning from his triathlon, Pete shares with Jen a training technique, and both of them noodle on what it might look like to work within Zone 2 (and not constantly overexerting in Zone 5). Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: What are the five zones of energy and effort? Why is it important to take periods of rest? How might a more continuous method of training be more efficient and impactful than a high intensity one? To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 387387. Revising Goals
This week, Jen and Pete noodle on a mental framework in which they revisit and recommit, or revise, or replace, or remove the goals they've set for themselves this year (which leaves them feeling re-invigorated, re-energized, and re-inspired). Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: How might we add and consider the context surrounding our goals? How might we reframe a pivot away from a certain goal as not a failure but a learning? What are some tactics to give ourselves more grace in the journey towards our goals? To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected]. Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 386386. Physio
This week, Pete shares with Jen some wisdom from his physio, and together, they noodle on how their leadership may be more simple, practical, and elegant.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:When might it be best to give direction versus ask a question?What are some practical ways to simplify the learnings we are trying to give to our clients or colleagues?In what ways can we practice being more efficient and elegant?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 385385. Fear Reminder
Throwing back to an idea from Episode One, Jen reminds Pete of the question: Is your fear keeping you safe, or is it keeping you stuck?Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might we notice and call out our own fears?Why might it be helpful to hear about other people's fears?What are some tactics we can use to confront and push through the fear that is keeping us stuck?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 384384. Writing
After listening to James Clear talk on the habit of writing, Pete talks with Jen about their writing practices, and how he might investigate new and old ways of writing and thinking.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might the act of writing help us change up our patterns of thinking?How might we give up the idea of having to be perfect on our first try?What is Pete's writing practice? And Jen's?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 383383. Reframing Tonsilitis
As Pete prepares to have his tonsils removed, he asks Jen for mental frameworks he can use during his two-week recovery.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might we use our internal google translator to switch negative language into positive action?How might we switch the words "have to" to "get to"?When life throws us a curveball, how might we embrace this unexpected path?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 382382. What To Do?
As Jen confronts an upcoming change, she asks Pete for advice and questions to help shift the framework of her status quo.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:What does success look like?How might we reframe a problem as the best possible thing that could happen?Where might we be able to challenge our own assumptions and rules?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 381381. Books
Looking at his reading list for the year ahead, Pete asks Jen about her processes for selecting and reading books.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How might we enable ourselves to quit reading a book that isn't exciting to us?Where might we look for the next book to read?How might we examine the list of books we've already read, and use that to guide the future of our reading selections?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 380380. 2026
This week, Jen and Pete go through their intentions, phrases, and things they are thinking about in preparing for the year ahead.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:How do Jen and Pete reflect on the past year, in order to look ahead?How is an unexpected unknown shaping Jen's year?What intention is Pete going to set for his upcoming year?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).
Ep 379379. Have a Goal
In the final days of 2025, Jen and Pete noodle on what should be the top priority to have prepared as we move in to 2026.Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:Why is it important to have an idea of what success looks like for you?What is an outcome goal? What is a process goal?How might we measure and take an audit of our existing assets?To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected] more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).