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TLP Interview with Helena De Groot, Audio Producer and Sound Artist

Ep 125TLP Interview with The Cheeky Scholar
Earlier this year, I had a really, really great conversation with Dr. Lara Ayad, host of the podcast The Cheeky Scholar - and I'm proud to share it today. We cast our net really wide, talking at first about the role of artists in society, my favorite museums, but then we got into it. We got into it. Because Lara and I are both, in the parlance of the moment, free speech bros. And if you’re going to be a good artist, or a good art critic, you can’t be afraid of censorship, and you sure as hell can’t practice it. Lara and I talk everything from Anselm Kiefer to Dr. Seuss, and what we came to realize is this: you have to open your mouth. You have to look at world with open eyes and an open mind. And nothing shuts all those things – mouth, eyes, and mind – more than fear. Fear of offending. Fear of saying the wrong thing even when you’re trying to say the right thing. Or fear that full-on disagreeing will put the whole of your values, your entire moral compass, in question. What will people think of me? Am I still allowed in the club? Am I still a good person? Full disclosure: it’s this fear, and these questions, that made me almost not share this conversation. But that’s nuts. And when you listen, you’ll hear why. Freedom of speech is one of the most foundational tenets we have in a liberal society – and this has always been the case, regardless of who had the cultural power to cancel whom.Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Bonus - Why Public Radio Matters: A Conversation Between Rumble Strip's Erica Heilman and Jay Allison
bonusIt's September, and time to get back to work. That means defending public radio against federal defunding, exploring its core values, and taking an honest look at how we got here. I'm proud to share this conversation between my Hub & Spoke colleague Erica Heilman, host of the exquisite and unflinching Rumble Strip, and her buddy Jay Allison, founder of Transom, producer of The Moth Radio Hour, and generally one of the most stalwart producers in the industry, about why public radio matters.Episode webpage.Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 124In Plain Sight - Ep. 3: "Go Deeper"
"You don't go look at a Rothko; you go inside a Rothko." - Claire, visitor, National Gallery of ArtModern art. Two little words that strike so much fear in the heart of the average museum goer. When you're used to straightforward, legible paintings and sculptures, Modernism can be pretty destabilizing. Pretty weird. Canvases are now spattered with paint, or lined with grids, or barely containing the shapes that seem to want to float away. A car tire is cut apart and reassembled. A giant mobile floats in the air, catching the breeze. And it's natural to ask, well, what does this mean? What is this piece about? How did I just go from Post-Impressionism to Fauvism to Cubism to Futurism, when the subject matter of these paintings all kind of look similarly shattered and rebuilt and hastily glued back together again? How could I ever understand the nuances of this stuff without a graduate degree? But I promise you, you can.Learn more.See the images.Music Used:The Blue Dot Session, “Tall Harvey,” “Highway 430,” “Ranch Hand,” “Cornicob,” “The Melt,” “A Common Pause,” “Within the Garden Walls,” “Basketliner” Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 123In Plain Sight - Ep. 2: "Listen Closer"
"Questions and the search for answers, and the appreciation of beauty, and then wanting to share it with other people, to go look at it closely together. Then you realize you've got something that can feed you for the rest of your life as a career." - Emily Pegues, curator, National Gallery of Art.Museum curators are an intimidating species. Those experts with their degrees. How could they possibly remember what it was like to walk into a museum for the first time and feel overwhelmed by the sheer volume of history on display? How could they imagine what it’s like to be a visitor who doesn’t care about a landscape with cows? After all, we’re not born knowing the stories these paintings tell, or how to seek them out.In the second episode in our series, we’re going to explore how a long look into an artwork can inadvertently engage another sense: hearing. Hearing the stories that a painting can tell. And the curators at the National Gallery are here to help. Help put us in the best possible position to receive these stories; help us listen to what these paintings are saying to us. And how to imagine these stories moving through the centuries, embracing us the way they once embraced them for the first time, and making them want to do what they do.Learn more.See the images.Music Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Gentle Son,” “Pinky,” “Origami Guitar,” “Arizona Moon,” “Tangeudo,” “The Melt,” “Lina My Queen,” “Brer Rhetta,” “Georgia Overdrive” Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 122In Plain Sight - Ep. 1: "Look Longer"
"There are different levels of looking. And it's exciting to bring people to the different levels." - Estelle Quain, docent, National Gallery of ArtHow do YOU feel when you walk into an art museum? Is it familiar? Intimidating? Do you have a guard trying to shush you, or an overly-enthusiastic friend trying to tell you what to like? Are you joyful? Are you sad? Are you… bored?You’re not alone. Whether it’s your first time in an art museum or your 10,000th, everyone’s going to respond differently. That’s why we made this podcast.In June of 2024, I was honored to be the Storyteller-in-Residence at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC. I spent a week in the museum talking to and recording as many people as I could: curators, museum staff, visitors. We talked about what brought them to the museum, and what keeps them there. We talked about what makes the museum experience transcendent, and, bluntly, what can get in the way of that - what stands in the way of connecting with an artwork, what makes them feel like they never learned the secret knock to access this world. After all, in order to make a space inviting, you have to understand why some people can feel left out.In this three-part series, a collaboration between the National Gallery of Art and The Lonely Palette, we’re going to explore the idea of what it means to open yourself up to an art museum, one artwork, or conversation, at a time. And how the tools to do this have been here for you all along, literally in plain sight, just waiting for you.Today, in the first episode of our series, I talked to various museum staff about preconceived notions of art that visitors bring with them to the museum. We discussed how their jobs are to meet visitors where they’re at, and to encourage them to go further. To look longer.Learn more.See the images.Music Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Brer Rhetta,” “Greylock,” “Alustrat,” Vela Vela,” “Caprese,” “Setting Pace,” “Our Fingers Cold” Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 121Ep. 70 - Norman Rockwell's "Freedom of Speech" (1943)
“I was showing the America I knew and observed to others who might not have noticed.” - Norman RockwellWhether arguing for soft versus hard taco shells or the Neo-Nazi right to march in Skokie, freedom of speech is a fundamental right we all enjoy as Americans. But it turns out that telling people that is pretty complicated, actually. Thank goodness we have Norman Rockwell, virtuosic photorealistic painter and America's crown prince of nostalgia, to help us understand our fundamental freedoms from the intimacy of the magazines fanned across the coffee tables inside our homes.See the images.Music used:The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “The Zeppelin,” “Lord Weasel,” “No Smoking,” “Transeless,” “Silver Lanyard,” “Ice Tumbler,” “Sino de Cobre,” “Georgia Overdrive,” “The Consulate”Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 120TLP Interview with Judith Wechsler, Art Historian and Filmmaker
"Walter, let's go for a walk." - Judith Wechsler, in the arcades of Paris.Professor Judith Wechsler is an art historian, filmmaker, writer, researcher, Francophile, and leading expert on Paul Cezanne and Honoré Daumier. She’s the daughter of a major religious philosopher. Her resume reads like a who’s who of 20th century art historians – Meyer Shapiro, Linda Nochlin, Leo Steinberg, Gershom Sholem. Her films tell the story of 20th century Europe, image by image.She was also my grad school advisor. And she’s now a dear friend. Hers is the voice that lingers in my head, reminding me to show my work. Her background in dance and filmmaking speak to someone who, like me, sees art and art history as something that can be understood not just academically, but creatively, and interpreted creatively. You just need to make sure there’s a net below that cliff to catch you.We all have a mentor, and Judith is mine. This conversation is deeply personal. It’s the story of a student, and her teacher, and the questions and answers that craft our journeys.Episode webpageMusic used:The Blue Dot Sessions, "A Little Powder," "Basketliner"Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 119Ep. 69 - Yee Sookyung's "Translated Vase" (2011)
“It is not about fixing or mending, but about celebrating the vulnerability of the object and ultimately myself.” - Yee SookyungShattered porcelain is impossible to repair. As impossible as fully, and accurately, reconstructing the past. But who needs that pressure? What if, instead of tossing those shards in the dustbin of history, we acknowledged that the thing will never be what it once was? Maybe then we appreciate the beauty, and the human resilience, of what new things it could be, in the now.See the images.Music used:Billy Joel, “You May Be Right”The Blue Dot Sessions, “Littl Jon,” “The Dustbin,” “BlueGarden,” “Nesting,” “A Rush of Clear Water,” “A Common Pause”Leonard Cohen, “Anthem”Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 118TLP Interview with Annea Lockwood, Artist and Composer
"It's the close focus that draws me into a sound. And then it sort of spreads out and spreads through my body. And I let that happen, and I'm listening in a different way." - Annea LockwoodThe artist and composer Annea Lockwood is not just any musician. She is an artist of sound. She is a composer of art. Her music is performance art, and her art is always, always audio-rich and musical. She sends her microphones into the elements – fire, here, and rivers, in a recent series called Sound Maps, where she captures, among other things, the tonality of the different depths of the water. She loves chanting, tones, drones. She loves what sound does to our body, how we respond to it, how we visualize it. How sound breathes. How we breathe differently around different sounds.And for me, as an art historian who fell in love with sound, I get it. I think I get it. And this is what today’s conversation is about. Annea joined me to talk about what it means to listen with your body, to experience the silence in all the noise, and the noise in the silence. We talk about the value of musical training versus musical instinct. We talk about how rivers sound different from one another (they really do!). And we explore what an artist from New Zealand who gained prominence in the 1960s burning pianos can teach us about the art of sound, and what she can learn from her 85-year-old self, today.Episode webpageMusic used:The Blue Dot Sessions, "Brer Rhetta," “A Common Pause,” "Tanguedo"Episode sponsors:Art of CrimeThe Seattle PrizeVisual Arts PassageSupport the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 117Ep. 68 - Felix Gonzalez-Torres' "Untitled (March 5th) #2" (1991)
"The only thing permanent is change." - Felix Gonzalez-TorresThere is no way around it. The work of Felix Gonzalez-Torres, a gay, Cuban-American artist who responded to - and died during - the AIDS crisis of the 1980s and 90s, is sad. His work is a memorial, both to a lost generation and to his own partner, Ross. Yet it is through these seemingly banal, industrial, or every day materials, and the powerful metaphor that they represent, that we can best get to the root of what loss can mean. And, maybe, healing as well.See the images.Music used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “A Little Powder,” “Lerennis,” “Taoudella,” “The Melt,” “Rafter”Open Book, “Second Chance”Episode sponsors:Art of CrimeThe Seattle PrizeVisual Arts PassageSmartist AppWith extra special thanks to Martin Young.Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 116TLP Interview with Sebastian Smee, Art Critic, The Washington Post
“In the end, what interests me is the way art connects with life. Because otherwise, I don’t quite understand what it’s for.” - Sebastian SmeeSebastian Smee has been the art critic for the Washington Post since 2018, but has written extensively about art for every publication you can think of, from here to his native Australia, and winning a Pulitzer prize for criticism along the way. Both his prose and his love of the work leaps off the page and into your lap, offering a guiding hand past the velvet rope, not just for his readers, but for himself: he’s a critic who is constantly looking inward, curious about his own responses to artworks, and what it can teach him about teaching us.Sebastian joined me to discuss his latest book, “Paris in Ruins: Love, War, and the Birth of Impressionism,” as well as writers on writing, becoming an expert about a movement on deadline, how looking back at the muddiness of a historical moment can help us understand the muddiness of ours, and what happens when art critics are themselves at a loss for the words to express why they just love this or that painting so darn much.See the images.Music used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Town Market,” “Night Light,” “Brass Buttons”Episode sponsor:The Art of Crime PodcastSupport the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 115Ep. 67 - Cy Twombly's "Second Voyage to Italy (Second Version), 1962"
"My line does not illustrate. It is the sensation of its own realization." - Cy TwomblyCritics have described the work of consummate scribbler Cy Twombly as at once "barely there" and overly academic, but what about us art civilians? What is it about these half-baked scraps, scratch, and scrawl that speaks to our own creative impulses, our own inner children dying to grab the crayon and crush the tip in an ecstatic series of fat, juicy loopdeloops?See the images.Music used:The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Inessential,” “Tiny Putty,” “A Burst of Light,” Palms Down,” “Parade Shoes,” “City Limits”Episode sponsor:The Art of Crime PodcastSupport the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Ep 114Official Trailer: The Lonely Palette's Upcoming Season
This season, we've got a stellar line-up: Cy Twombly, Lawren Harris, Käthe Kollwitz, and Felix Gonzalez-Torres, to name just a few. We've got interviews with the Washington Post's Sebastian Smee, the artist and composer Annea Lockwood, and more. We've got a whole National Gallery residency! So listen and subscribe, rate and review, and fire up your earbuds for another season of looking with your ears.If you support the work we do, consider becoming a patron, or simply leaving us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 113Bonus - Introducing "The Rabbis Go South"
Tamar is alive! The Lonely Palette is alive! But in the year since we last spoke, she's been elbow-deep in audio projects galore - good for the pocketbook, but bad for independent art history podcast productivity. But your patience will be rewarded! And in the meantime, a few announcements:- Join me and my fellow H&S colleagues at the PRX Podcast Garage in Allson, MA on Wednesday, November 6 for an evening of audio camaraderie. Register here.- Explore our Hub & Spoke Expo showcase, starting with the first episode of our very first exclusive Expo series, "The Rabbis Go South." (All episodes now available!)Imagine 16 American rabbis jailed for acting on their beliefs. The Rabbis Go South is a thrilling seven-part narrative podcast that uncovers a true story of Jewish-Black solidarity in St. Augustine, Florida during the Civil Rights Movement. An inspiring tale of hope for a divided world.The Rabbis Go South was created by documentary filmmakers Amy Geller and Gerald Peary. It’s a presentation of the Hub & Spoke Expo. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 112Ep. 66 - Bringing Monuments Home (from PRX's Monumental)
In this special episode of The Lonely Palette, I’m sharing the episode I made for the PRX limited-run podcast series "Monumental," which interrogates the state of monuments across the greater U.S. and what their future says about where we are now and where we’re going.This was the concluding episode, exploring how some monuments are larger than life, dwarfing us, making us feel small relative to the grandness of history. But what if a monument was human-scaled? What if it made us aware of our bodies in space? We don’t often think about the design choices that go into making a monument, but more and more, a new generation of artists and designers are reimagining what a monument can look and feel like, and the kinds of stories they can hold.This episode takes us to Montgomery, Alabama to the National Memorial for Peace and Justice, to Shreveport, Louisiana, to the South Side of Chicago, to Navajo Nation in Arizona. It explores how many American monuments to slavery took inspiration from Holocaust memorials in Germany. And it looks at decentralized memorials that are using technology to help bring monuments to the past into the future. Listen to the Monumental podcast series. See the images. Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 111Bonus - The Hub & Spoke Radio Hour
The Lonely Palette, as you've heard so often, is an enormously proud founding member of the Hub & Spoke Audio Collective, a group of fiercely independent, story-driven, mind-expanding podcasts. Since 2017, we've supported each other while forging our own paths, prioritizing craft and humane storytelling above all else.Now, if you haven't noticed, media in general, and podcasting in particular, is in a space some may generously call post-apocalyptic. But an incredible silver lining is that the industry is now recognizing how important independence is. We've been here all along, and with your support, we're not going anywhere.Please enjoy a bonus episode of the Hub & Spoke Radio Hour, a tasty sampler of a few of our shows in a dapper audio package. Today's theme is love. As the philosopher Haddaway once asked, what is love? It turns out, love can be anything that stirs the heart: passion, grief, affection, kin. The desire to consume; the poignancy of memory. Here at Hub & Spoke, we want to stretch our arms, and ears, around it all.This episode is hosted by Lori Mortimer and edited by Tamar Avishai. Production assistance from Nick Andersen. Music by Evalyn Parry, The Blue Dot Sessions, and a kiss of Dionne Warwick.Listen to the full episodes:- Rumble Strip, “Forrest Foster Lays Karen to Rest”- Mementos “Cherie’s Letters”- Ministry of Ideas, “Consumed”- The Lonely Palette, “Jean-Honoré Fragonard's The Desired Moment (c. 1770)”You can also share the love by supporting our Valentine’s Day fundraiser: www.hubspokeaudio.org/love Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 110TLP Interview with Lucy R. Lippard, Art Writer
Since her arrival on the art scene in the 1960s, legendary art writer Lucy Lippard’s work - searing, novelistic, crisp, and endlessly curious - as well as her insights, activism, entrenchment in the art world, and friendships have secured her role as one of the most important minds in art criticism of her generation.Now, at 86 years old, all of the stuff that she’s collected along the way – photographs, drawings, relationships, grandchildren – is the subject of her new memoir, or, actually, what she calls “Stuff (Instead of a Memoir).” She joined me to talk about the book, but also more than 60 years of writing about art in the way that centered life. After all, “art,” she often quotes, “is what makes life more interesting than art.” Art is the artists, the world they inhabit, their shared cultural references, their shared understanding of the art world and art history. Their human experiences rendered in paint. The stuff they leave behind. Music Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Lacquer Groove,” “Hardwood Lullaby” Episode Webpage Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 109TLP Interview with Prudence Peiffer, Author & Content Director, MoMA
In the 1950s and 60s, Coenties Slip—an obscure street on the lower tip of Manhattan overlooking the East River—was home to some of the most iconic artists in history, and who would define American Art during their time there: Robert Indiana, Ellsworth Kelly, Agnes Martin, James Rosenquist, Delphine Seyrig, Lenore Tawney, and Jack Youngerman. As friends and inspirations to one another, these artists created a unique community for unbridled creative expression and experimentation.Prudence Peiffer is the kind of art historian who understands the importance of context and place, and her book, “The Slip: The New York City Street that Changed American Art Forever” provides the kind of rich context and human detail that textbooks could only dream of. She joined me to discuss the history of these artists, why we have such a hard time seeing artists as people, the friction between accessible artists and their inaccessible art, why watching Robert Indiana eat a mushroom for 39 minutes is actually totally beautiful, and what it means to authentically nudge art history towards inclusion. See the images Music used:The Blue Dot Session, “Skyforager”Rufus Wainwright, “11:11” Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 108Bonus - The Lonely Palette Reads Tom Wolfe's The Painted Word
www.patreon.com/lonelypaletteMusic used:Glenn Miller, “Tuxedo Junction”The Blue Dot Sessions, "No Smoking," "Mercurial Vision"Our website:www.thelonelypalette.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 107Bonus - The Lonely Palette Reads Giorgio Vasari on Sandro Botticelli
This is a free edition of The Lonely Palette Reads, a perk that will be going out exclusively to Patreon patrons in the future. To become a patron, go to patreon.com/lonelypalette and sign up at any level of support. Thank you!Got suggestions for other intimidating-until-read-aloud-texts for future episodes of The Lonely Palette Reads? Email the show at [email protected] used:Glenn Miller, “Tuxedo Junction”The Blue Dot Sessions, “Belle Anette”Our website:www.thelonelypalette.comSupport the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 106Ep. 65 - Sandro Botticelli's "The Birth of Venus" (1485-86)
I can't help the way I'm feeling/Goddess of love, please take me to your leader/I can't help, I keep on dancing. - Lady GagaThe neoplatonic ideal of beauty, the girl on the half-shell, the naked chick riding a clam. Her tilted head and fluttery hair are recognized by everyone and their grandma, but no one - experts included - can explain just why in the heck this painting is so iconic. Shell we take on the challenge?See the images.Music used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”Joan Baez, “Diamonds and Rust”The Blue Dot Sessions, “TwoPound,” “Coulis Coulis,” “Delmendra,” “No Smoking,” “Belle Anette,” “Rue Severine,” “Ranch Hand,” “Pastel de Nata,” “Khfett”Lady Gaga, “Venus”Episode sponsor:The Art of Crime PodcastSupport the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 105Ep. 64 - Barbara Kruger's "Untitled (Your Body is a Battleground)" (1989)
See the images:bit.ly/45wNrSbMusic used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”The Blue Dot Sessions, “Thread Indigo,” “Monder,” “Tall Journey,” “Stephi,” “Morning Glare”Helen Reddy, “I Am Woman” (performed at the Mobilize for Women's Lives Rally in Washington in 1989)Support the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypaletteEpisode sponsors:Jay Handy Financial Services (for artists!)www.signalpointinvest.com/team/jay-handy/Altenewwww.altenew.comDiscount code: TAMAR10%OFF Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 104Ep. 63 - James Abbot McNeill Whistler's "Symphony in White No. 1: The White Girl" (1861-62)
See the Images:bit.ly/3PMpK3oMusic Used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Slate Tracker,” “Laser Focus,” “The Griffiths,” “Crumbtown,” “Discovery Harbor,” “Leave the TV On,” “Pickers,” “Caraval, “Lady Marie”Support Hub & Spoke's Independence Fundraiser:www.hubspokeaudio.org/july4 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 103Ep. 62 - Helen Frankenthaler's "Madame Butterfly" (2000)
See the images:bit.ly/3ChhuAE Music used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Bedroll,” “A Common Pause,” “Palms Down,” “Desmontes,” “Delamine,” “Greylock,” “Angel Tooth,” “Dear Myrtle”Joe Dassin, “Les Champs-Elysees" Episode sponsor:The Art of Colour: The History of Art in 39 Pigments: bit.ly/43Qp1SJ Support the show!www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Register for our Hub & Spoke live show in Woodstock, VT on June 15:normanwilliams.org/events/podcasts…istening-event/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 100Bonus - The Lonely Palette Live at On Air Fest (and an update!)
Happy 7th birthday, The Lonely Palette! We're ringing in our itch with an quick update on next season, which starts in June, and a recording of our live show at On Air Fest, which was held in Brooklyn this past February.Please enjoy this revamped and refreshed episode of Mary Kelly's "Post-Partum Document," smash that subscribe button, and we'll see you next month.See the episode images:bit.ly/411KA0FSupport the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 97TLP Interview with Avery Trufelman, Design & Fashion Podcaster
EEpisode webpage:bit.ly/3jtcOBlMusic used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Swapping Tubes”The Kinks, “Dedicated Follower of Fashion”Support our year-end fundraiser!bit.ly/3An5jSd Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 96Ep. 61 - Under the Midnight Sun
See the images:bit.ly/3FX0S3HMusic used:The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Lerennis,” “Lissa,” “Ice Tumbler,” “Mr. Graves,” “Throughput,” “A Rush of Clear Water,” “Pinky,” “The Green Room”Vivaldi, “Summer”Support our year-end fundraiser!bit.ly/3An5jSd Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 95Ep. 60 - Caravaggio's "The Crucifixion of St. Andrew" (1607)
See the images:bit.ly/3iNqpTYMusic used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"Charles Daab, “Irish and Scotch melodies (take 2)”The Blue Dot Sessions, “Highway 430,” “Angel Tooth,” “Di Breun,” “Rainy Day Drone,” “No Smoking,” “Cornicob,” “Tarte Tatin,” “Vernouillet,” “Thread of Clouds,” “Set the Tip Jar,” “Homin Brer”Joe Dassin, “Les Champs-Elysees"Support our year-end fundraiser!bit.ly/3An5jSdEpisode sponsor:www.visualartspassage.com/palette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 94TLP Interview with Dar Williams, Singer-Songwriter
Dar Williams has been described by The New Yorker as “one of America’s very best singer-songwriters,” but to thirteen-year-old Tamar she was, quite simply, a personal hero: a songwriter whose poetry, poignancy, and humor could capture at once the authentic voices of an inner child, a searching young adult, and a wizened sage. We met in person in 2013 at Dar’s songwriting retreat, and our friendship has been evolving ever since, exploring together the rigors of writing and storytelling through sound and song, and what it means to dip in and out of a creative space as a way of simply getting through the day.Dar has recently published a book about songwriting that is chock full of philosophical wisdom and applicable nuggets, many of which borne from a decade of retreats. We sat down together to talk about songwriting, art museums, the art of writing songs about art, and specifically her evocative, ambivalent "Mark Rothko Song," which tackles it all head-on.[2:05] Dar’s relationship with museums and creating a space for poetic thinking.[8:40] Specific museums, exhibitions, paintings that have inspired Dar’s songs: Dia, “Made in America,” the Fogg.[11:45] Writing Mark Rothko Song. Where did Dar go? Where did Dar really go?[14:45] The difficulties inherent in writing about art. What prompted the writing of this song? Dar’s first encounter with Rothko’s “Untitled (Blue Green)” and the first verse.[20:15] Diving into the prosody of the song, how the music and lyrics support the voice of the song: finger picking, major to minor, chord to chord, key to key, mood to mood.[27:41] Return to the lyrics and narrative. The way that Rothko encourages people to make subjective associations…but then comes the foil of the second verse, creating the contrast between subjective and objective.[33:52] The song’s dueling (or complementary?) aha moments in the bridge and final verse. People both love Rothko and struggle to connect to him. Following the narrator’s journey as she wrestles with seeing something versus knowing something.[45:47] Appreciating an honest song about art viewing that doesn’t flatten the characters. Reflecting on the elements of the song that hold up as Dar has gotten older.[51:19] The similarities between art museums and songwriting retreats: opening up, engaging poetic thinking.[55:28] Also the hazards of living in a space of poetic thinking, especially as a parent. The necessary objectivity of the caretaking space.[1:02:20] The “Five Things” Rule, and whether Mark Rothko might just be the exception that proves the rule. Tamar meets her Rothko and gives hope to kind pedestrians everywhere.[1:09:14] Mark Rothko Song in full.Music Used:Dar Williams, “When I Was A Boy”; “Mark Rothko Song” (live); “The Beauty Of The Rain”; “Mark Rothko Song” (album version)Episode Webpage:bit.ly/3RJm9AkSupport the Show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 93TLP Interview with Adam Gopnik, Critic, The New Yorker
Episode webpage:bit.ly/3COhnOpMusic used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Balti”Mandy Patinkin, “Finishing the Hat” from Sunday in the Park with GeorgeSupport the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 92TLP Interview with Dr. Charlotte Mullins, Art Critic & Broadcaster
Music used:The Blue Dot Sessions, "Spark"Rod Stewart, "Every Picture Tells A Story"Charlotte's book:amzn.to/3TksKDlEpisodes referenced:Anselm Kiefer: bit.ly/31gUSwWSarah Sze: bit.ly/3NRnGmrSupport the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 90Ep. 59 - Sarah Sze's "Fallen Sky" (2021)
What goes up into the sky must come down into the earth, and fortunately for us we’ve got Sarah Sze, mistress of materials, memory, and meaning, helming the journey.This episode was produced with support from Storm King Art Center.See the images:bit.ly/3NRnGmrMusic used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Plate Glass,” “Leatherbound,” “The Onyx,” “Silent Ocean,” “ZigZag Heart,” “Curious Case,” “On Top of It”Evan Blanch, “Where The Streets Have No Name (Instrumental)” (U2 cover)Episode sponsor:www.visualartspassage.comSupport the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 89Ep. 58 - Odili Donald Odita's "Cut" (2016)
Betcha never realized how deeply color colored your world - and the world - until you found yourself dancing down the diagonal of this showstopping print.This episode was produced in partnership with the Harvard Art Museums. The exhibition "Prints from the Brandywine Workshop and Archives: Creative Communities" is on view until July 31, 2022.Music used:The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Valley VX,” “Forgot His Jam,” “Dear Myrtle,” “Lakeside Path,” “Paramo Ocho,” “White Limit,” “Bivly”See the images:bit.ly/3MzWc47Support the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 88Ep. 57 - Juno, A Colossal Roman Statue (late 1st c. BCE)
This episode was produced in partnership with the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston.See the images:bit.ly/3tXx80oMusic used:The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Pigpaddle Creek,” “Temperance,” “Highway 94,” “Floating Whist,” “Danver County,” “Mr. Graves,” “Willow Belle”Joe Dassin, “Les Champs-Elysees"Support the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 84Ep. 56 - Memorials (Collaboration with Hi-Phi Nation)
Music Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Drone Pine,” “Taoudella,” “The Consulate,” “Our Fingers Cold,” “Slider”Silver Maple, “After the Rain”Megan Wofford, “Awake”Yi Nantiro, “Blue Lantern”Christian Nanzell, “Contraband”Gunnar Johnsen, “Documents 4”Fabien Tell, “Liaison”Arden Forest, “Monastral”Niclas Gustavsson, “My Kind of Illusion 1”Niclas Gustavsson, “Reflection 4”Episode webpage:bit.ly/3pkhoCISupport the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 83Ep. 55 - Harriet Powers' "Pictorial Quilt" (1895-98)
This episode was produced in partnership with the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston. The exhibition, “Fabric of a Nation: American Quilt Stories” is on view until January 17, 2022.See the images:bit.ly/3jNT4FZMusic used:The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"Blue Dot Sessions, “Moon Bicycle Theme,” “Stucco Blue,” “Coronea,” “Lumber Down,” “Velvet Ladder,” “Gale”Get tickets to the exhibition:bit.ly/3GAli0MSupport the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 82Ep. 54 - Grant Wood's "American Gothic" (1930)
See the images:bit.ly/2WuV2CQMusic used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Long and Low Cloud,” “Hakodate Line,” “Cornicob,” “Sylvestor,” “Di Breun,” “The Silver Hatch,” “Speaker Joy”Joe Dassin, “Les Champs-Elysees"Support the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 80TLP Interview with Dr. Rachel Saunders, Curator, Harvard Art Museums
See the images discussed:bit.ly/3kQbAiiMusic used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “One Little Triumph,” “Sage the Hunter”Tamar’s exhibition review in the New York Review of Books:bit.ly/36X64CgThe Lonely Palette episode on Painting Edo:bit.ly/3iEFl2QThe HAM page on Painting Edobit.ly/3zrYBY7Support the show!www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 79Bonus - Look With Your Ears No. 3: The Urban Sublime
Artists Explored:Winslow Homer, Edward Hopper, Robert Frank, Berenice Abbott, Charles Sheeler, Martin WongSee the Images:bit.ly/34AE9XwMusic Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “The Zeppelin,” “Towboat Theme,” “Cat’s Eye,” “PlainGrey,” “Dorica Theme,” “Tranceless”Further Listening:The Lonely Palette on Edward Hopper: bit.ly/3wyqg8YSupport the Show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 78Ep. 53 - Painting Edo, Post-Pandemic
See the images:www.thelonelypalette.com/episodes/202…ost-pandemicMusic used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Noe Noe,” “A Certain Lightness,” “Algea Trio,” “Kilkerrin,” “Gullwing Sailor,” “Two Dollar Token,” “Silent Flock”Billie Holiday, “Blue Moon”Support the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 77Bonus - Look With Your Ears No. 2: The Figure
Artists Explored:Lalla Essaydi, Laurie Simmons, Cindy Sherman, Lorna Simpson, Sally Mann, Dawoud BeySee the Images:addison.andover.edu/AboutUs/Pages/Podcast.aspxMusic Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “The Zeppelin,” “Dirty Wallpaper,” “Polycoat,” “Pastel de Nata,” “Turning to You,” “The Consulate”Further Listening:The Lonely Palette on Mary Cassatt: bit.ly/3uFM9BjSupport the Show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 76Bonus - Look With Your Ears No. 1: Abstraction
Artists Explored:Agnes Martin, Jackson Pollock, Mark Bradford, Jasper Johns, Donald JuddSee the Images:addison.andover.edu/AboutUs/Pages/Podcast.aspxMusic Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “The Zeppelin,” “Pinky,” “Flattered,” “A Little Powder,” “Arizona Moon,” “Daymaze,” “The Summit,”Jason Leonard, “Ritual Six”Further Listening:The Lonely Palette on Jackson Pollock: bit.ly/3eUQdsEThe Lonely Palette on Jasper Johns: bit.ly/3hDFq82Support the Show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 75Trailer - Look With Your Ears (in partnership with the Addison Gallery of American Art)
For more information on the exhibition, visit:addison.andover.edu/Exhibitions/90/…es/default.aspx.Music used:The Blue Dot Sessions, "Waterbourne" Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 73Ep. 52 - Ólafur Elíasson's "Untitled (Spiral)" (2017)
Music used:The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Daymaze,” “Plate Glass,” “Discovery Harbor,” “Wahre,” “Checkered Blue,” “Quarry Clouds,” “Enter the Room”See the images:bit.ly/3sJUXWuSupport the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 71Ep. 51 - Mary Kelly's "Post-Partum Document" (1973-79)
ESee the images:bit.ly/3uaWHtaMusic used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “La Inglesa,” “Eggs and Powder,” “Paper Feather,” “Arizona Moon,” ”Lowball,” “Palladian,” “Simple Vale”Support the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 69TLP Interview with Ralph Steadman, Artist & Illustrator
[2:18]: Love of Picasso and Duchamp.[3:11]: Where do you start with caricature, the body or the soul?[5:40]: Drawing with a pen – “no such thing as a mistake.”[7:09]: The difference between illustration and “fine art”.[9:55]: Use of the geometric in Steadman’s work, ink spatter, a conversation with the paper.[13:10]: Coming to the U.S. in 1970, David Hockney “Paranoids”.[14:30]: Use of photographs and text in drawing.[15:15]: I, Leonardo, the terror of the blank canvas, and “prorogation”.[17:53]: Style, “exposing depravity” and being purified by drawing it.[22:33]: Early career before collaborating with Hunter S. Thompson, alchemy, gonzo.[29:08]: Favorite faces to draw.[30:48]: 2020, the pandemic, and finding the birdsong in doom.Interview Webpage:bit.ly/38erSJXMusic Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, "Crumbtown"Support the Show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 68Ep. 50 - Carrie Mae Weems' "Not Manet's Type" (1997)
See the images:bit.ly/3omDroOMusic used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”The Blue Dot Sessions, “Jumbel,” “Turning to You,” “Pastel de Nata,” “Junca,” “Min,” “Basketliner”Support the show:www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 67TLP Interview with The Guerrilla Girls, Feminist Activists & Artists
[2:29]: Introductions.[3:41] Why choose these artists as your pseudonyms?[5:37]: The origin story of the Guerrilla Girls (and their font!).[8:17]: How has the group changed and evolved, both internally and in terms of its mission? Has progress been made?[15:49]: The joys and pitfalls of all-women shows. Is “woman artist” a problematic phrase?[23:18]: Is there something that innately connects women artists?[27:43]: Reflecting on our inflamed current moment, and whether things are indeed getting better.[34:33]: How do we get people excited about artists they’re not familiar with, and who fall outside the established canon?[38:16]: How to reach out to people who disagree with you.[42:47]: How the Guerrilla Girls changed the rules for artists who came after them.Follow the Guerrilla Girls:www.guerrillagirls.comInterview webpage:bit.ly/3lGETBiMusic used:The Blue Dot Sessions, "Pinky" Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ep 66Ep. 49 - Claes Oldenburg's "Giant Toothpaste Tube" (1964)
Somewhere between the life of the mind and the boots on the ground sits Pop artist Claes Oldenburg, who wants us to see not only that both of those worlds are one and the same, but that there's value, and even beauty, to our stuff, and that maybe we can finally let ourselves admit it.See the images:bit.ly/3hcHjVqMusic used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Cradle Rock,” “Sylvestor,” “A Little Powder,” “Our Only Lark,” “Town Market,” “Contrarian,” “The Rampart”Joe Dassin, “Les Champs-Elysees"Episode sponsor:sfosguide.com/Support the show!www.patreon.com/lonelypalette Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.